From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #17 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, January 20 2004 Volume 13 : Number 017 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Crazy as Kansan? (if far less articulate) [Eb ] Re: getting laid off of donuts ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: ...and a bag of chips? [Eb ] Re: ...and a bag of chips? [Miles Goosens ] Re: ...and a bag of chips? ["Fortissimo" ] REAP ["FS Thomas" ] Fwd: Robyn in Feb magnet mag [fingerpuppets ] Re: ...and a bag of chips? ["Jonathan Fetter" ] Caucus [Eb ] Re: ...and a bag of chips? [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: ...and a bag of chips? [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: List is barely alive, so.... [Capuchin ] Re: ...and a bag of chips? ["Stewart C. Russell" ] RE: Caucus ["FS Thomas" ] Re: ...and a packet of crisps ["Matt Sewell" ] Re: ...and a packet of crisps ["Jonathan Fetter" ] Re: ...and a bag of chips? ["Jonathan Fetter" ] Re: Caucus [steve ] Re: Caucus [FSThomas ] Re: Caucus [steve ] Re: Caucus ["Matt Sewell" ] Re: Caucus ["Fortissimo" ] Fwd: Re: List is barely alive, so.... ["Fortissimo" ] medieval movies [Christopher Gross ] Re: ...and a bag of chips? [Christopher Gross ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:45:37 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Crazy as Kansan? (if far less articulate) http://mysite.freeserve.com/pms ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:46:24 -0600 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: getting laid off of donuts > From: Jill Brand > Subject: getting laid off > > BTW, is there anyone else on this list who just doesn't like donuts? Yep, me. I hate 'em. Disgusting, greasy, sugary, goopy things that they are. I'm not even a big fan of cakes, either (cake cakes, not cookie cakes, like some people say). However, my distaste for donuts probably has a lot to do with the fact that I worked in two donut shops for summer jobs in high school. Even passing near a donut shop and smelling the grease makes me nauseous. Now pie, that's another story. I will inhale, on sight, a cherry pie. But I don't think anything can beat a big old bowl of freshly cleaned peaches, strawberry, and mangoes, or a piping hot crhme brulee, either. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:58:43 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: ...and a bag of chips? Jill: >>BTW, is there anyone else on this list who just doesn't like donuts? >>Don't get me wrong; there's lots of junk food that I like and try not to >>eat (like Twinkies and Oreos). I'll eat 'em if provided, but never buy 'em for myself. But I am generally sort of sweettooth-impaired. The wife and I are both sort of non-dessert people-- we prefer more entree or sides, and usually work on that until we're full-- so that's a boon in our relationship. We're one of the most food-compatible couples I know. Gnat: >>Like donuts, potato chips don't travel well either, >>which is why there are so many local varieties. (Frito Lay has factories >>all over the country, which is why you can get them anywhere.) I'm >>especially fond of Tim's Cascade, from Washington state, and my dad >>(before he turned into a fanatical dieter) was a big supporter of an east >>coast brand, Wyse. Is that Wise, or is it just a similarly-named-probably-to-confuse-people gambit such as that which exists between Snyder's of Berlin and Snyder's of Hanover? Wise and Utz (good hard pretzels), those were our regional off-brands. I'll toss my hat into the ring with Snyder's of Berlin's Barbecue Potato Chips, before which all other barbecue chips tremble in the sad knowledge of their own mediocrity. When back in WV, I power through bag after bag, making certain to procure a giant bag for the 3-hour drive back to airport when I leave. Once and only once a small portion actually made it to my house in LA, and I found it somewhat bizarre to eat them here... like they didn't belong. Another oddity I once encountered, at a truck stop on the 5 between LA and SF, was an off-brand of chips called Tom's which are essentially near-exact replicas of Doritos. I had seen them before in standard issue Dorito flavors, but at this particular mart they had the Tom's analogue of the old "taco flavored" Doritos, years after the real deal was first perverted into "Taco Bell flavor" and then discontinued altogether. Not an exact match, but damned close, considering that the genuine article had gone extinct. A little piece of my childhood, returned to me... unfortunately, I've never seen them again. There's a website somewhere that'll ship boxes of these regional snacks to you... poke around and you'll find it. Never availed myself of it, but if it takes more than half a year to get back east again, I just might order me some of those SoB BBQ chips... - -Rex, really not much of a chips guy as an adult, but one regresses a bit when staying at ones childhood home or driving for 6 or 7 hours at a time... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:28:28 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: ...and a bag of chips? >Is that Wise, or is it just a >similarly-named-probably-to-confuse-people gambit such as that which >exists between Snyder's of Berlin and Snyder's of Hanover? I've always been bewildered by the Breyer's/Dreyer's overlap. Seems like somebody should have sued somebody. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 18:41:03 -0500 (EST) From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: ...and a bag of chips? Rex: >Is that Wise, or is it just a similarly-named-probably-to-confuse-people gambit such >as that which exists between Snyder's of Berlin and Snyder's of Hanover? Wise and >Utz (good hard pretzels), those were our regional off-brands. > >I'll toss my hat into the ring with Snyder's of Berlin's Barbecue Potato Chips, before >which all other barbecue chips tremble in the sad knowledge of their own mediocrity. >When back in WV, I power through bag after bag, Subregional note: Snyder's of any location is unknown to me, southern-part-of-the-state guy. On the other hand, Moore's and the aforementioned Wise are pervasive. I admit an inordinant fondness for certain Wise flavors, and this past Thanksgiving my low-salt-dieting mom introduced me to a low-salt version of Wise's regular-flavor potato chips that may have a more appealing flavor (to her and me, anyway) than the full-salt version. When I was a little kid, Wise also made this fabulous variant of chips that tasted like... well, if you can imagine how a potato *stick* differs in flavor from a potato *chip,* these had the flavor of the stick, but instead of having the stick's denseness and granularity, the stars had a light, fluffy texture. I think they stopped making it when I was four or five, about the same time that the Peach Pop Tart disappeared. Kellogg's has sometimes tried to revive the Peach Pop Tart, but I still haven't seen a relaunched Wise potato stars thingy (I truly forget what they were called). later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:20:38 -0600 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: ...and a bag of chips? On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:28:28 -0800, "Eb" said: > >Is that Wise, or is it just a > >similarly-named-probably-to-confuse-people gambit such as that which > >exists between Snyder's of Berlin and Snyder's of Hanover? > > I've always been bewildered by the Breyer's/Dreyer's overlap. Seems > like somebody should have sued somebody. Not chips - but it seems as good a time as any to bring up the bizarre fact that in parts of the country, Hostess Ding Dongs are known as "King Dons." There is, apparently, no truth to the rumor that a certain boxing impresario was involved here. "King Dons"?!? What the hell kind of name is that? Two very evil chips: Mr. G's (regional, I think), which are essentially solidified grease layered in salt (or the other way 'round); and the original Krunchers (before Borden bought 'em out), fried in truly E-Vil peanut oil for maximum crunch... - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: "In two thousand years, they'll still be looking for Elvis - :: this is nothing new," said the priest. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 21:57:09 -0500 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: REAP Gephardt's Presidential run. Iowa Democratic caucuses for President - -------------------------------------- 1645 of 1993 precincts - 83 percent - -------------------------------------- John Kerry Dem 1,134 - 38 percent John Edwards Dem 963 - 32 percent Howard Dean Dem 534 - 18 percent Dick Gephardt Dem 315 - 11 percent Dennis Kucinich Dem 36 - 1 percent Wesley Clark Dem 3 - 0 percent Uncommitted Dem 3 - 0 percent Joe Lieberman Dem 0 - 0 percent Carol Moseley Braun Dem 0 - 0 percent Al Sharpton Dem 0 - 0 percent - -ferris. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 22:22:14 -0500 From: fingerpuppets Subject: Fwd: Robyn in Feb magnet mag >To: RobynHitchcockClub@yahoogroups.com >From: "genebean68" >Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 00:57:08 -0000 > >The new magnet magazine has robyn on the cover and features him in a >showcase article- check it out !!!!!!!!!!!! www.magnetmagazine.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 22:43:05 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Re: ...and a bag of chips? The best and evillest chips I know--Zerbe's, fried in lard. http://www.rootsmarket.com/zerbes-chips-shop.asp From the PA Dutch, experts in heart-healthy food. Maybe the inventors of the potato chip? Since I want to live long enough to retire someday, I rarely partake in chips. Doughnuts and fasnachts too. Jon > Two very evil chips: Mr. G's (regional, I think), which are essentially > solidified grease layered in salt (or the other way 'round); and the > original Krunchers (before Borden bought 'em out), fried in truly E-Vil > peanut oil for maximum crunch... > ------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 23:07:33 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Caucus Is it just me, or did Dean sound like a complete *maniac* in that post-caucus speech? ;) Sheesh...tone it down a little, bub! Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:22:21 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: ...and a bag of chips? - --On Montag, 19. Januar 2004 18:41 Uhr -0500 Miles Goosens wrote: > Rex: >> Is that Wise, or is it just a similarly-named-probably-to-confuse-people >> gambit such as that which exists between Snyder's of Berlin and >> Snyder's of Hanover? Wise and Utz (good hard pretzels), those were our >> regional off-brands. >> >> I'll toss my hat into the ring with Snyder's of Berlin's Barbecue Potato >> Chips, before which all other barbecue chips tremble in the sad >> knowledge of their own mediocrity. When back in WV, I power through >> bag after bag, > > Subregional note: Snyder's of any location is unknown to me, > southern-part-of-the-state guy. That's funny. For reasons unbeknownst to me a local supermarket chain (Kaisers) is selling these: It's not a special, it's not outrageously priced, it looks just like every other snack they offer, only that it *isn't* like any other snack they offer. This is Europe! This is Germany! This is Cologne (not Hannover ...)! Anyway, I bought them out of curiosity and now I always bring a package to our Doppelkopf nights, where they are very popular. Ah, new thread: any card players on the list? What kinds of card games do you play? Cheers, Sebastian - -- Sebastian Hagedorn PGP key ID: 0x4D105B45 http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 01:28:08 -0800 From: Eb Subject: List is barely alive, so.... Recently, I noticed that the All Music Guide site lists Billboard rankings for all the albums/singles...a pretty neat reference source. I've been looking up some of my albums out of curiosity, and... ...here are some underdog albums which actually reached Billboard's Top 200, much to my surprise. See if you are amused/entertained/interested/boredsilly. Or find a surprising statistic of your own. Bob Mould/Bob Mould (#101) Bob Mould/The Last Dog and Pony Show (#164) Brian Eno/Here Come the Warm Jets (#151) Brian Eno/Before and After Science (#171) Butthole Surfers/Independent Worm Saloon (#154) Emitt Rhodes/Mirror (#182) Fetchin Bones/Monster (#175) Frank Zappa/Lumpy Gravy (#159) Frank Zappa/Waka/Jawaka (#152) Frank Zappa/Studio Tan (#147) Frank Zappa/Orchestral Favorites (#168) Frank Zappa/Sleep Dirt (#175) Gang of Four/Solid Gold (#190) Guadalcanal Diary/2 x 4 (#183) Guadalcanal Diary/Flip Flop (#132) House of Freaks/Tantilla (#154) Jane Siberry/The Speckless Sky (#149) Jean-Michel Jarre/Oxygene (#78) Jean-Michel Jarre/Equinoxe (#126) Jean-Michel Jarre/Magnetic Fields (#98) Jean-Michel Jarre/Rendez-Vous (#52...most surprising of all??) Le Mystere des Voix Bulgares/Le Mystere des Voix Bulgares (#185) Let's Active/Cypress (#153) Let's Active/Big Plans for Everybody (#111) Phil Manzanera/K-Scope (#176) Richard Harris/My Boy (#71) Richard Thompson/Hand of Kindness (#186) Robert Fripp/The League of Gentlemen (#90) Robert Johnson/The Complete Recordings (#80) Silver Apples/Silver Apples (#193) The Bears/Rise and Shine (#159) The Carl Stalling Project/Music from Warner Bros. Cartoons 1936 - 1958 (#188) The dB's/The Sound of Music (#171) The Electric Prunes/Mass in F Minor (#135) The Feelies/Only Life (#173) The Fugs/The Fugs (#95) The Fugs/First Album (#142) The Undertones/The Undertones (#154) The United States of America/The United States of America (#181) The Velvet Underground/The Velvet Underground & Nico (#171) The Velvet Underground/White Light/White Heat (#199) The Velvet Underground/The Velvet Underground (#197) Tom Verlaine/Dreamtime (#177) Wire/It's Beginning To and Back Again (#135) Soundtrack/One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (#158) Didn't you always have the impression that the Velvet Underground albums were complete bombs, at the time? And yet... Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:30:34 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: ...and a bag of chips? - --On Montag, 19. Januar 2004 22:43 Uhr -0500 Jonathan Fetter wrote: > Doughnuts and fasnachts > too. What are those? Fasnacht is the Alemannian(?) word for Karneval, so I suppose it could be something like our Berliner or Eierkrapfen, the latter being sold mostly between New Year and Karneval. Both are fried like doughnuts. Berliner are filled with jelly. Eierkrapfen contain lots of eggs and make you extremely sick if you have more than one of them ... trust me. Here's a picture of Berliner: Krapfen is a synonym for Berliner in some parts of Germany. Cheers, Sebastian - -- Sebastian Hagedorn PGP key ID: 0x4D105B45 http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:51:39 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: List is barely alive, so.... - --On Dienstag, 20. Januar 2004 1:28 Uhr -0800 Eb wrote: > Didn't you always have the impression that the Velvet Underground albums > were complete bombs, at the time? And yet... Hmm, maybe that's because albums didn't play a big role back then? As I understand it (I wasn't around at the time) most people only bought singles. So it might not have taken as much to get in the top 200 albums as it did later. Just a guess ... - -- Sebastian Hagedorn PGP key ID: 0x4D105B45 http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 02:45:57 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Caucus On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Eb wrote: > Is it just me, or did Dean sound like a complete *maniac* in that > post-caucus speech? ;) > Sheesh...tone it down a little, bub! I didn't see the speech, but it seems to me that if he toned it down anymore, he'd be Joe freakin' Lieberman. He's already a totally middle-of-the-road "liberal" and still being called radical by the press. It's freaky. I'm sad for Kucinich, but not at all surprised given the state of the so-called opposition party. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 02:49:43 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: List is barely alive, so.... On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Eb wrote: > ...here are some underdog albums which actually reached Billboard's > Top 200, much to my surprise. > > Robert Johnson/The Complete Recordings (#80) Why does that one surprise? Most of them are what I'd call sort of secondary pop acts. (They're all major label, right? At least in distribution?) I'm not exactly surprised by any of them, but this one least of all. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 06:46:06 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: ...and a bag of chips? Best in UK? Seabrook's, no doubt. Except for their Sweetcorn flavour, which tasted alarmingly like corn. Which no crisp should do. MMM ... salt and vinegar crisp sandwiches ... Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 07:01:51 -0500 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: RE: Caucus > I didn't see the speech, but it seems to me that if he toned > it down anymore, he'd be Joe freakin' Lieberman. Only a small snippit: http://drudgereport.com/dean.mp3 - -ferris. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:41:34 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: ...and a packet of crisps Agreed - seabrooks are fantastic. I prefer plain, but the cheese and onion is the best c&o flavouring I have ever tasted (not that it tastes a lot like real cheese and real onion). And what the hell is all this about a bag of chips? Over here a bag of chips is something you eat contemplatively on an esplanade, preferably in the rain... Cheers Matt >From: "Stewart C. Russell" >Best in UK? Seabrook's, no doubt. Except for their Sweetcorn >flavour, which tasted alarmingly like corn. Which no crisp should >do. > >MMM ... salt and vinegar crisp sandwiches ... > > Stewart - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Subscribe to MSN 8 today for a better internet experience and save over 25% on the usual price! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 08:51:16 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Re: ...and a packet of crisps Allright, in the past 12 months this list has discussed in depth beer, wine, and now junk food. What's next, cigarettes? BTW, Krispy Kreme=ashes and dust, IMO. Bleh. Jon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 09:02:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Re: ...and a bag of chips? > honeymustard.html> Found these in a supermarket in Taiwan, too. DOn't know why they chose to export only the honey mustard flavor to every angle of the world. Ah, new thread: any > card players on the list? What kinds of card games do you play? Used to play euchre (yooker?) with a bunch of friends in Taiwanese bars. Great game. Jon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 08:37:31 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: Caucus >> I didn't see the speech, but it seems to me that if he toned >> it down anymore, he'd be Joe freakin' Lieberman. On Jan 20, 2004, at 6:01 AM, FS Thomas wrote: > Only a small snippit: > > http://drudgereport.com/dean.mp3 > > -ferris. Can you be sure that Drudge hasn't edited this the way he did the Clark "testimony". - - Steve - ---------- This big deal about Bush landing on an aircraft carrier? Talk about a 6-year-old kid with a Tonka toy -- we got it here. - Neil Young ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 09:43:28 -0500 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: Caucus steve wrote: > Can you be sure that Drudge hasn't edited this the way he did the Clark > "testimony". While it could've been, it doesn't sound edited. I didn't watch that coverage, but the other outbursts I've heard have been on par. Granted, not with that insane shout at the end, but there's a first time for everything. - -f. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 08:44:04 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: Caucus On Jan 20, 2004, at 4:45 AM, Capuchin wrote: > I'm sad for Kucinich, but not at all surprised given the state of the > so-called opposition party. Still clueless after 3 years of Bush. - - Steve __________ aileen buddhist madeleine mugging boeotian agglutinate rattle admitted brucellosis white ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 15:20:26 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: Caucus Wha..? Do you mean that this Kucinich bloke is too Left-wing to beat George Bush? I guess then the best way to beat Bush would be to vote for someone who, though a different person and in a different party, wouldn't have political beliefs that diverge too far from the present incumbent? Play safe by voting in the most right-wing Democrat...? Well, I wouldn't recommend it - for instance Tony Blair was voted in because he wasn't all left-wing and unelectable like so many previous Labour leaders, and we got Margaret Thatcher II. Nothing has changed: the rich are getting richer, the poor poorer, we're right behind any illegal and ill-thought-out war that takes the US president's fancy, public services are being privatised out from under us at a rate of knots... I'm not saying Cappy or Steve are right or wrong necessarily, I'm just saying I'd be careful for whom you're voting, ye Americans...! CHeers Matt >From: steve >Reply-To: steve >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Caucus >Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 08:44:04 -0600 > >On Jan 20, 2004, at 4:45 AM, Capuchin wrote: > >>I'm sad for Kucinich, but not at all surprised given the state of >>the >>so-called opposition party. > > >Still clueless after 3 years of Bush. > > > >- Steve >__________ >aileen buddhist madeleine mugging boeotian agglutinate rattle >admitted brucellosis white - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Subscribe to MSN 8 today for a better internet experience and save over 25% on the usual price! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:18:18 -0600 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: Caucus On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 15:20:26 +0000, "Matt Sewell" said: > Wha..? > > Do you mean that this Kucinich bloke is too Left-wing to beat George > Bush? I guess then the best way to beat Bush would be to vote for someone > who, though a different person and in a different party, wouldn't have > political beliefs that diverge too far from the present incumbent? Play > safe by voting in the most right-wing Democrat...? > > I'm not saying Cappy or Steve are right or wrong necessarily, I'm just > saying I'd be careful for whom you're voting, ye Americans...! Problem is, we get very little choice, what with the winner-take-all two-party system in place. Because we don't have anything like instant runoff voting, any third-party votes need to be carefully strategized to take into account their actual effect (i.e., whom do they actually, effectively vote *against*?). Insert the entire post-2000 election Nader discussion here if you'd like (but not literally, please). The other issue, of course, is the absurdity by which the media decrees "leading" candidates: Kerry is now anointed such - even though the Iowa caucuses are ridiculously unrepresentative of the country as a whole, and even though large numbers of Iowa caucus winners have tanked unglamorously over the course of the election. However, I think if my alternatives were voting for Bush and sawing off my own arms by holding a butter knife in my teeth, I'd still not vote for Bush. - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: crumple zones:: :: harmful or fatal if swallowed :: :: small-craft warning :: ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:27:53 -0600 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Fwd: Re: List is barely alive, so.... Oops - meant this for everyone: On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:26:09 -0600, "Fortissimo" said: > > On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:51:39 +0100, "Sebastian Hagedorn" > said: > > --On Dienstag, 20. Januar 2004 1:28 Uhr -0800 Eb > > wrote: > > > > > Didn't you always have the impression that the Velvet Underground albums > > > were complete bombs, at the time? And yet... > > > > Hmm, maybe that's because albums didn't play a big role back then? As I > > understand it (I wasn't around at the time) most people only bought > > singles. So it might not have taken as much to get in the top 200 albums > > as > > it did later. Just a guess ... > > In terms of absolutely sales, this is correct. I don't know the exact > numbers...but here's an interesting article - > - which at > one point observes that by 1969, there'd been only twenty albums that > sold a million copies - whereas in 2003, there were almost fifty > million-sellers in that year alone. So if a VU album hit #199 in 1969, it > probably would be *way* further down the chart today. Or the reverse: an > album that reached the top ten in 1969 would be much lower-charting today > (at the same absolute sales level). How much lower is an interesting > question...does anyone here know? > --------------------------- > > J e f f r e y N o r m a n > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.blogspot.com - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Solipsism is its own reward :: :: --Crow T. Robot ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 09:06:05 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: ...and a packet of cigs At 08:51 AM 1/20/2004 -0500, Jonathan Fetter wrote: >What's next, cigarettes? I've been enjoying Camel Exotic Blends lately, but I've cut down my smoking considerably on my road to quitting completely. I celebrated the MLK holiday by attending my first NBA game (the suckass Clippers against the Sac Kings) with some buddies who were originally from the golden state's capitol, and by getting a little blitzed on Meridian Merlot and free unnamed shots invented on the spot by the bartender in a western themed bar on the Sunset Strip. I also rode a mechanical bull. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:28:20 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: medieval movies A friend of mine is taking a Medieval History class this semester, and asked me to recommend a few good movies set in the Middle Ages to help get her in the mood. I have some ideas of my own, but I'd like to hear what you folks would suggest. Requirements are: the movies must make some noticeable effort at historical accuracy (no _The Court Jester_), must be set in Western Europe (no _Andrei Rublev_), must be realistic rather than fantasy (no _Lord of the Rings_), and must not be _Braveheart_ (no _Braveheart_). The ideal candidate would also be readily available for rental in the US. Any suggestions? - --Chris ps: As always, apologies to those of you who get this more than once. pps: Of course, I'll also add _Monty Python and the Holy Grail_ to whatever realistic, historically-accurate films I come up with. How could I not? ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:44:34 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: ...and a bag of chips? On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > Anyway, I bought them out of curiosity and now I always bring a package to > our Doppelkopf nights, where they are very popular. Ah, new thread: any > card players on the list? What kinds of card games do you play? I'm not usually much for card games, but I recently started playing one called conkan (sp?). It might be of Arab origin; at any rate, I learned it from someone who learned it from Arab immigrants in the US, and apparently it's popular in coffee houses in Damascus. It's played with two decks and revolves around trying to get series of cards in the same suit, four cards with the same number, etc., to lay down, the winner being the first one with no cards left. It may well duplicate a common American card game that I never happened to learn. When I was about 12 or so I played a game called Bullshit. This involved dividing the whole deck up among 3+ players, who would then take turns laying down cards, face down, and announcing what they were: two aces, three 9s, etc. If someone thought you were lying (for example, because they had three aces and two 9s in their own hand), they would yell "Bullshit!" If the one who yelled bullshit was right, the one who lied had to take all the cards in the pile; if he (and we were all hes) was wrong, then *he* had to take the whole pile. The first one to get rid of his whole hand was winner. Occasionally one of us would claim to lay down five of a certain card, just to see if everyone was paying attention. - --Chris, who is so much of a Mac user he doesn't even know how to play Solitaire ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #17 *******************************