From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #12 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, January 14 2004 Volume 13 : Number 012 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Paging Hamish! Come in, Hamish! ["Rex.Broome" ] maybe karma is turning around in 2004 [Eb ] RE: maybe karma is turning around in 2004 ["Jason Brown \(Echo Services I] RE: maybe karma is turning around in 2004 ["Fortissimo" ] RE: maybe karma is turning around in 2004 [Capuchin ] Robyn's acoustic guitar [Ken Weingold ] RE: maybe karma is turning around in 2004 ["Fortissimo" ] GWB Bashing [Mike Swedene ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #11 [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Robyn in Nashville teaser [Miles Goosens ] Robyn in Nashville 1-13-04 [Miles Goosens ] Re: Bit Torrent: 1/9/04 Maxwells - Schoeps [Mike Swedene ] RE: Robyn's acoustic guitar ["Matt Sewell" ] Re: maybe karma is turning around in 2004 [Jeff Dwarf ] RE: maybe karma is turning around in 2004 [Jeff Dwarf ] re: New Snail now available... ["Marc Holden" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:40:17 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Paging Hamish! Come in, Hamish! Hamish, if you're still around... your contribution to the feg-originals comp has been irretrieveably lost. I'd love a replacement if you can muster one. It's the last missing piece before I start pressing these bad boys. Yes, it lives... - -Rex "better late than never until proven otherwise" Broome ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:09:11 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: RH in Nashville 2-nite I'd been meaning to thank Woj for the heads-up on the rescheduling of the Nashville gig. I was also fortunate to have an in-town friend e-mail me about the date/venue change (she's going with us tonight), so I had two two two chances to find out! Anyway, the Bluebird lets you reserve tables beginning a week in advance of the show, so I called last Tues. or Wed. to get a table. I'll try to keep a setlist tonight. I hereby promise not to complain about Robyn not playing here for a minimum of two (2) years from this date. But then the clock starts ticking again, buddy. Every show he's played here (May 1990, June 1992, January 1997) has been *packed,* so it's not lack of success keeping him away. Any chance that (former?) Feg Gary Parker is still on this list and going to be in attendance tonight? I met him at the '97 show, where, afterwards, we both walked outside with Robyn to Robyn's rental car to obtain cones. Strangely, Michael McCall, who's written about good music in this here town for years, said in his preview of the show for the SCENE that the Bluebird was an "unlikely" venue for Robyn. Given that Robyn's played solo at the Bluebird in three of his four Nashville appearances (including tonight), it seems like the Bluebird is the *most* likely Nashville venue for Robyn! McCall's preview (at until tomorrow afternoon, subsequently in the SCENE's archives): >Robyn Hitchcock >In his '80s heyday, Hitchcock wrote songs like a biology professor on acid--and he still does, only now he comes across like a clever, lovable uncle. Despite comparisons to Syd Barrett, Hitchcock's lyrical whimsy is a conscious decision, not an uncorrected personality trait. His ability to crisscross melodic rock, musical theater and old folk tunes makes him a peer of Paul McCartney and Ray Davies and a predecessor to modern-day explorers like the Flaming Lips' Wayne Coyne and the Elephant 6 collective. Hitchcock's recent album, Luxor, is a low-key, acoustic affair reminiscent of previous cult favorites like 1984's I Dream of Trains and 1990's Eye. That may explain why he picked such an unlikely destination for this rare solo performance. Or maybe the idea just fit his skewed sense of humor. For whatever reason, Hitchcock's appearance at such an intimate venue will make for a one-of-a-kind experience. He'll be joined by his friend and fellow Brit Tim Keegan, whom many Nashvillians will remember from his recent time here with the band Departure Lounge. Bluebird Cafe He's also the pick of the day in our daily rag, the TENNESSEAN, at on a probably more permanent basis than the SCENE preview. The TENNESSEAN's section editor chose the ungainly headline "Mish-Mash of Influences." Ugh. However, the full version of this preview is at the TENNESSEAN's free weekly entertainment spinoff, THE RAGE (terrible name, and it's the TENNESSEAN's somewhat lame attempt to compete with the SCEME) at . I'll pass on the full RAGE preview, which was edited down a little for the daily paper: >Robyn Hitchcock has been one of the most unique and prolific artists in any musical genre for more than 20 years now, but describing exactly what genre Hitchcock is working in is a daunting task. >From his days with art-punk originators the Soft Boys (of the oft-covered I Wanna Destroy You) to his '80s reign as college radio's weird-pop king with his band the Egyptians (remember the 120 Minutes hit Balloon Man?), to his most recent recordings, which mash all his influences into curveball melodies and his own concoction of alluring anti-folk, Hitchcock has made a life's work of giving us the unexpected. >But for all his mind-warp lyrics and willfully awkward arrangements, Hitchcock's music still consists of surefire songs, the kind that can translate into almost any genre and always work especially well with just a voice and an acoustic guitar. So while his return trip to the storied songwriting haven of the Bluebird Cafe may at first glance seem an odd pairing (most would assume he would play an underground rock club), it is, in essence, a perfect fit s an establishment that celebrates the power of song bringing in one of songwriting's most unique and sincerely talented voices, regardless of genre. >Hitchcock recently captured some of his fabled stripped-down performances on the new acoustic-only CD Luxor, which is only available through his Web site (www.robynhitchcock.com) and at his live shows (the Nashville show is the last one on the books for a while). Joining Hitchcock for this Bluebird show will be sometime Nashvillian Tim Keegan of the wonderful mellow un-pop trio Departure Lounge. Keegan will not only open the show but lend some guitar assistance to Hitchcock's set s he has worked with Hitchcock in the past and has maintained a creative relationship with him for years. Get there early, this one will be packed. >s Jason Wilkins So there ya go. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 15:26:52 -0800 From: Eb Subject: maybe karma is turning around in 2004 http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Entertainment/ap20040113_1579.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 15:36:05 -0800 From: "Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" Subject: RE: maybe karma is turning around in 2004 > http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Entertainment/ap20040113_1579.html Ha! The first Surviving Nugent was great television though. I had great fun at New Year's teasing a straight edge vegan friend about the fact that Nugent was the inspiration for the straight edge movement. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 17:48:06 -0600 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: RE: maybe karma is turning around in 2004 On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 15:36:05 -0800, "Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc)" said: > I had great fun at New Year's teasing a straight edge vegan friend about > the fact that Nugent was the inspiration for the straight edge movement. Gaa-wha-hueuh? As what - negative example? Or for those straight-edges who, in addition to avoiding drugs, alcohol, meat, and sex, also eschew sanity? 'Course, straight-edge is just puritanism with loud guitars, so... - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: "In two thousand years, they'll still be looking for Elvis - :: this is nothing new," said the priest. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:03:11 -0800 From: "Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" Subject: RE: maybe karma is turning around in 2004 > > I had great fun at New Year's teasing a straight edge vegan friend about > > the fact that Nugent was the inspiration for the straight edge movement. > > Gaa-wha-hueuh? > > As what - negative example? Or for those straight-edges who, in addition > to avoiding drugs, alcohol, meat, and sex, also eschew sanity? 'Course, > straight-edge is just puritanism with loud guitars, so... Mr. Straight Edge himself Ian MacKaye was a huge Nuge fan in the 70's. There is a great section in Michael Azerrad's "Our Band Could Be You Life" which recounts MacKaye and Henry Rollins seeing Nugent in concert and Nugent, a lifelong teetotaler, goes on a long rant about the ills of smoking, drugs, and alcohol. MacKaye and Rollins were inspired. You not get wasted and still rock. The straight edgers later added abstaining from sex and meat. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:15:43 -0800 (PST) From: bayard Subject: fegBands, speak out I am planning an update to the fegbands sub-site - so if you have a band - and you have a site - let me know... =b - -- "I regard Christianity as the most fatal and seductive lie that has ever yet existed - as the greatest and most impious lie ... I decline to enter into any compromise or false position in reference to it - I urge people to declare open war with it." - Friedrich Nietzsche ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 17:27:05 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: RE: maybe karma is turning around in 2004 On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc) wrote: > There is a great section in Michael Azerrad's "Our Band Could Be You > Life" which recounts MacKaye and Henry Rollins seeing Nugent in concert > and Nugent, a lifelong teetotaler, goes on a long rant about the ills of > smoking, drugs, and alcohol. MacKaye and Rollins were inspired. You > not get wasted and still rock. The straight edgers later added > abstaining from sex and meat. Uh, McKaye added the sex bit in his initial suggestion. The meat thing is way new. But in response to Jeffrey's comment, I'd note that, importantly, straight-edge, although perverted by those folks who would rather follow rules than think for themselves, is simply the promotion of a lifestyle where one eschews those things which they see as most distracting and damaging to the lives of others. It has nothing to do with telling others what is right or wrong and it doesn't explicitly exclude any behaviors in particular. While it might be hard to argue that a person can get a straight edge (that is to say, an advantage on life by keeping their priorities distinct and focussed) and still use drugs or drink alcohol, I think it's theoretically possible. I don't think it's possible to be sexually or romantically entangled and maintain the straight-edge, however. That shit is just too compelling. That is to say, you can't pursue it without it infecting the other aspects of your life. Never been straight-edge myself, but I can respect the attitude and think we all need it to some extent. I think it has not much to do with the actual things you do or don't do, but will-power and showing control and restraint in your life. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 21:02:52 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: maybe karma is turning around in 2004 On Jan 13, 2004, at 7:27 PM, Capuchin wrote: > But in response to Jeffrey's comment, I'd note that, importantly, > straight-edge, although perverted by those folks who would rather > follow > rules than think for themselves, is simply the promotion of a lifestyle > where one eschews those things which they see as most distracting and > damaging to the lives of others. This is the first time I've heard of strait-edge. My initial impression was that it was something like those Furries people, only different. What a sheltered life I lead! - - Steve __________ God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them. - George Bush, as related to Harretz by Mahmoud Abbas ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:05:54 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Robyn's acoustic guitar Anyone know what kind of acoustic guitar Robyn plays, at least recently? I find it interesting that it has the two dots on the fifth fret. I've never seen that before. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:18:12 -0600 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: RE: maybe karma is turning around in 2004 I assume throughout that Cap is describing what he understands straight-edge (SE) to be, not that he necessarily endorses what he describes. Anyway: On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 17:27:05 -0800 (PST), "Capuchin" said: > But in response to Jeffrey's comment, I'd note that, importantly, > straight-edge, although perverted by those folks who would rather follow > rules than think for themselves, Which is what typically happens, of course...(not just w/straight-edge) is simply the promotion of a lifestyle > where one eschews those things which they see as most distracting and > damaging to the lives of others. It has nothing to do with telling > others > what is right or wrong and it doesn't explicitly exclude any behaviors in > particular. Generalized to this point, how is this different from "thinking about things before you do them"? > While it might be hard to argue that a person can get a straight edge > (that is to say, an advantage on life by keeping their priorities > distinct > and focussed) and still use drugs or drink alcohol, I think it's > theoretically possible. > I don't think it's possible to be sexually or romantically entangled and > maintain the straight-edge, however. That shit is just too compelling. > That is to say, you can't pursue it without it infecting the other > aspects > of your life. See, this is why I called it "puritanism" above. Despite the disclaimers about what's distorted and being non-doctrinaire, an attitude like this (along with the very name) just screams "I am so afraid of being human, with all its fallibility, that I will deny any pleasures that prevent me from being in control 100% of the time." I wonder how cool SE would be (insofar as it is cool) if instead of Rollins and MacKaye being inspired by Ted Nugent, it'd been a bunch of Star Trek guys inspired by Mr. Spock. You will note, also, the rather obvious "I'm a hard guy" attitude covering up the quite apparent "I'm really a soft, scared little boy" as well. Funny how all the most-heard-from SE'ers are male (and in the case of Rollins, have really obvious problems dealing with women)... I'd say viewing sex and affection as "infecting" is pathological. > I think it has not much to do with the actual things you do or don't do, > but will-power and showing control and restraint in your life. Sure - but the violence inherent in the very words you used (power, control, restraint) shows how fearful some SE'ers are at the fact that life is uncontrol, and not all terrible for that fact. - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Solipsism is its own reward :: :: --Crow T. Robot ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:50:23 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Coachella Festival Set For May 1-2 http://www.pe.com/entertainment/stories/PE_Ent_buzz113.58339.html SUBSCRIPTION NEEDED http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=2066657 http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=musicNews&storyID=4114554 as per reuters: Although they are still a ways off from announcing the lineup, Billboard.com can reveal that Air, Prefuse 73, the Thrills and Electric Six are confirmed to play. Radiohead and a reunion of the Pixies are strongly rumored as headlining acts. Bring on the PIXIES!! mike __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:53:04 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Swedene Subject: GWB Bashing My friend who recently transplanted from the "miami of the north" Buffalo to a cheery dreary apartment complex in Seattle sent me this Bush bashing site: http://www.ericblumrich.com/idiot.html not recommended for dial up. mike __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 18:18:10 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V13 #11 >"He believes that God's word, the Bible, is the >foundation for all law." > >Then he's living in the wrong country. I wonder if he eats shellfish, rabbit, or pork (forbidden - Deuteronomy 14). Or whether he thinks that the US soldiers in Iraq should have their pick of any women captured (commanded - Deuteronomy 21). Or whether he wears cotton and woollen clothing together (forbidden - Deuteronomy 22). Or, if his brother died, I wonder whether he would marry the widow (commanded - Deuteronomy 25). And before you say it, the New Testament has an equal number of doozies. - --- >Britain's worst serial killer, it says here, but surely he was Britain's >*best* serial killer? He murdered over 200 people, far-and-away more >victims than any other serial killer... reported on NZ television as "Britain's biggest serial killer" (morons). I'm sure he wasn't over 5 foot 8. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:50:11 -0500 (EST) From: Miles Goosens Subject: Robyn in Nashville teaser OK, who here knew that Robyn had already been in town for a couple of days recording with Gillian Welch and David Rawlings? Not me, until tonight. I'm Googling some of the encores. Full report tomorrow. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 02:39:00 -0500 (EST) From: Miles Goosens Subject: Robyn in Nashville 1-13-04 OK, I got my Googling done (wanted to be sure on the Dylan stuff - sometimes those Basement Tapes things run together), and I'm still psyched, so here 'tis. clothing: B&W harlequin shirt, dark blue pants (but apparently not jeans) blinking: moderate with heavy interludes unibrow: not present Robyn acoustic 1) Mexican God 2) I Got the Hots 3) Balloon Man 4) You Remind Me of You 5) Solpedeine 6) One L Robyn & Tim, acoustic 7) Queen Elvis 8) Queen of Eyes 9) DeChirico Street 10) I Saw Nick Drake 11) Madonna of the Wasps 12) Jewels for Sophia *end regular set* *encore* Robyn acoustic, David Rawlings electric guitar, Gillian Welch electric bass 13) ?? Television Come Toward Me??? (new original? lots of lyrics about television - I think lower-case television, though maybe with Television-mania abounding, could be a tribute to Verlaine & co.) 14) Bang a Gong (Get It On) 15) If You Know Time 16) Odds and Ends 17) Please, Mrs. Henry 18) Look at Miss Ohio 19) Minstrel Boy 20) Well Well Well *finis* It was really really good, though I think Melissa (who's been even more out of sympathy with Robyn than me) would stop at "good." We went with a friend who had never seen Robyn before, and I know she was utterly thrilled when Gil and Dave joined Robyn for the encores, so that was a special treat for her, and for us, having brought her in the hopes that she'd enjoy it -- getting Gil and Dave cemented it as a great evening for her! The fact that the show opened with "Mexican God" and closing with "Well Well Well" did the same for me. :-) (Me, I've never cared much for Gillian Welch's records, but I love Gil and Dave in other formats -- either as the Esquires, which means Dave sings a slew of great rock covers, or as a backing band, like tonight or when they backed Ryan Adams a few years ago at "Kimfest," which was the only time I ever have been able to stomach that two-bit ripoff artiste. But I digress.) Anyway, Robyn actually looked healthier and fitter than I've ever seen him, and he was in excellent voice and good spirits. The between-songs banter was less surreal and less digressive than it used to be, but the stories and ideas therein were smart 'n' fun as always. Topics included tuning sounds that would drive rodents into ecstasy, and the convergence of mobile phones/portable music players/digital cameras. And with Tim and Gil'n'Dave, Robyn would refer to songs as initials when away from the mic, like "how about QOE next?" At one point Tim suggested "Guildford," but Robyn rejected it as too long, even though those of us close enough to hear Tim encouraged Robyn to play it. I was hoping it would turn up in the encores, but Tim never reached the stage again. Umm, what else? When I got up the nerve to meet Robyn after the '97 show, I felt like I went all fanboyish, and we had a missed communication about "St. Petersburg" (me meaning "song," Robyn hearing "large city on Florida's Gulf Coast") that somehow made the whole thing awkward. So even though he seemed cheery and signed stuff for whoever wanted stuff signed, I didn't chat him up. However, I did hear him say that he not only had been recording with Gil and Dave for a couple of days, but writing with them too. News, I'd think. I did introduce myself to Tim, who was sweet and personable, and we had a nice chat about our mutual Jazz Butcher fandom. His solo/acoustic opening set (Robyn introduced him as "Almost Nashville's Own Tim Keegan," which is a good enough Nashville reference that I should have been tipped off right then and there that Robyn had been in town for more than a couple of hours!) was pleasant, though I missed the Departure Lounge's melange of instruments, which IMO elevates Tim's stuff from "pleasant" to "memorable." Tim's apparently back here in his former home to put the finishing touches on a Tim Keegan solo album. Also gleaned: Robyn finally playing here again, and not in the midst of a big ol' tour, had to do with Tim (who as it turns out has been asking Robyn *for years* to play here again -- good man!) being back in town to work on his album, and it somehow evolved into a larger thing with Robyn doing some recording of his own -- and of course, this show. In the audience: well, Gil'n'Dave, but also former Superdrag/Who Hit John bassist Sam Powers, and the Last of the Full-Grown Men, Webb Wilder. More luminaries too, probably, but I didn't recognize 'em all. Bill Lloyd must have either slipped in and out without me seeing him or be on tour somewhere; I can't imagine that he'd miss this if he could help it. Last Robyn words from the stage: "See you in another seven years!" later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 23:47:02 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Re: Bit Torrent: 1/9/04 Maxwells - Schoeps I have mine still open. Only 2 leechers right now. I will keep it open through the rest of the week to aid others. mike - --- Jason Reiser wrote: > Robyn Hitchcock > January 9, 2004 - Early Show > Maxwell's > Hoboken, NJ > > Taper: Jason Reiser > > Source: Schoeps MK4 > Sonosax SX-M2/ls > Sony SBM-1 > > > Sony TCD-D8 > (mics spread ~ 17cm @ 90 degrees, 7 feet high just > forward of soundboard) > DAT > SHN: Tascam DA-30mkII > Zefiro ZA-2 > WinNT4 > PC > > CoolEdit 96 > CD Wave 1.9 > mkwACT 0.96f > > Format: SHN > Size: 576.42 MB > Tracker: http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=1692 > Torrent File: > http://bt.etree.org/download.php/1692/rhitchcock2004-01-09early-schoeps.shnf.torrent > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" > Sweepstakes > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:31:01 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: re: New Snail now available... > >Well worth getting... just ask Marc Holden! Go ahead, ask me. I'm considering getting an extra just in case something happens to the one I have. I love it. Thanks for asking, Marc To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And, at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between, plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing." This is truth, to me. Jack Handey ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:30:36 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: RE: Robyn's acoustic guitar I think he has more than one... I know one of the accoustics he uses is a Fylde - nice and veh expensive..! Personally, if I was going to replace my fabulous old Takamine, I'd want another 20+ year old one. For instance if I had 1200 quid I'd buy an old Martin before buying anything brand new... Cheers Matt >From: Ken Weingold >Reply-To: Ken Weingold >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Robyn's acoustic guitar >Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:05:54 -0500 > >Anyone know what kind of acoustic guitar Robyn plays, at least >recently? I find it interesting that it has the two dots on the fifth >fret. I've never seen that before. > > >-Ken - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get a free connection, half-price modem and one month FREE, when you sign up for BT Broadband today! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 05:40:14 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: maybe karma is turning around in 2004 steve wrote: > Capuchin wrote: > > But in response to Jeffrey's comment, I'd note > > that, importantly, straight-edge, although > > perverted by those folks who would rather > > follow rules than think for themselves, is simply > > the promotion of a lifestyle where one eschews > > those things which they see as most distracting > > and damaging to the lives of others. > > This is the first time I've heard of strait-edge. > My initial impression was that it was something like > those Furries people, only different. Furries are not quite as creepy as straight-edgers though. ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:20:34 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Robyn's acoustic guitar On Wed, Jan 14, 2004, Matt Sewell wrote: > I think he has more than one... I know one of the accoustics he uses is a > Fylde - nice and veh expensive..! Ah. Thanks, Matt. I found their site and indeed their guitars have two dots on 5 and three on 12. I never notices the three on 12. So how is their name pronounced? - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 06:23:39 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: RE: maybe karma is turning around in 2004 Fortissimo wrote: > I assume throughout that Cap is describing what he > understands straight-edge (SE) to be, not that he > necessarily endorses what he describes. Anyway: > > is simply the promotion of a lifestyle > > where one eschews those things which they see as > > most distracting and damaging to the lives of > > others. It has nothing to do with telling > > others what is right or wrong and it doesn't > > explicitly exclude any behaviors in particular. > > Generalized to this point, how is this different > from "thinking about things before you do them"? Is any ascetic or semi-ascetic lifestyle really about thinking though? Denial for the sake of denial doesn't reflect thinking about things so much as it reflects a need for extreme ritual as a substitute for genuine discipline. ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 14:54:39 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: Robyn's acoustic guitar As in mild or child, I understand... Cheers Matt >From: Ken Weingold >On Wed, Jan 14, 2004, Matt Sewell wrote: > > I think he has more than one... I know one of the accoustics he uses is a > > Fylde - nice and veh expensive..! > >Ah. Thanks, Matt. I found their site and indeed their guitars have >two dots on 5 and three on 12. I never notices the three on 12. > >So how is their name pronounced? > > >-Ken - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Reduce spam in your inbox with MSN 8's intelligent junk e-mail filters. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:00:43 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: re: New Snail now available... > > I'm considering getting an extra just in case something happens to the one I > > have. > > I love it. > > Which, the new or old one? I've never heard either, but liked the > samples I heard. last.dog.in.space. is the new one. 'Psychodelicate' (2001) was available when the Soft Boys toured last time. I like them both quite a bit. There is also an EP from 2002 called 'Heavy Petal'--I'm not sure where you can pick the EP up at this point. There is a bit of overlap between 'Heavy Petal' and last.dog., but both are worth getting (last.dog. is the better of the two). Later, Marc I don't pretend to have all the answers. I don't pretend to even know what the questions are. Hey, where am I? Jack Handey ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #12 *******************************