From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #11 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, January 13 2004 Volume 13 : Number 011 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: OT: Cold Mountain (spoilers) [Marcy Tanter ] Re: OT: Cold Mountain (spoilers) ["Sumiko Keay" ] Re: Hey, should I vote for this guy? [Scott Hunter McCleary ] Re: Hey, should I vote for this guy? [Tom Clark ] Re: Hey, should I vote for this guy? ["Jonathan Fetter" ] OT: Cold Mountain (spoilers) [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] But when the day comes, forget contacts... glasses all the way ["Rex.Broo] Re: This is just plain creepy ["Jonathan Fetter" ] J. Demme's OTHER one-man-film subject in trouble? [Eb ] maxwell's early show on stg [fingerpuppets ] Mystery salmon ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] New Snail now available... ["Brian" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 09:55:30 -0600 From: Marcy Tanter Subject: Re: OT: Cold Mountain (spoilers) At 09:53 AM 1/12/2004 -0600, Sumiko Keay wrote: >The Odyssey? I thought of that but it seemed too obvious--I'm thinking of a film rather than a general plot structure. Maybe there's a WW2 film out there that I saw as a kid that's like this. Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:03:01 -0600 From: "Sumiko Keay" Subject: Re: OT: Cold Mountain (spoilers) Oh Brother Where Art Thou? >>> Marcy Tanter 01/12/04 09:55AM >>> At 09:53 AM 1/12/2004 -0600, Sumiko Keay wrote: >The Odyssey? I thought of that but it seemed too obvious--I'm thinking of a film rather than a general plot structure. Maybe there's a WW2 film out there that I saw as a kid that's like this. Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:32:13 -0500 From: Scott Hunter McCleary Subject: Re: Hey, should I vote for this guy? Jeme said: >Maybe you should track him down to have that discussion. And bring a Bible. Wait a couple years -- mark my words, that daughter's about a decade short of full-blown hottie. ;) One can only hope she follows the time-honored tradition of proving a monumental source of discomfort for her wound-up-just-a-couple-times-too-many Texas politician father. Hmm, seems to have gotten pics in front of all the relevant tourist spots except maybe the "Arbeit Macht Frei" gates. Sheesh. Scott np -- Live and Unbodiced/The Tudor Tarts - -- ========= When Air National Guard absentee George W. Bush dressed up in Cruise's "Top Gun" costume and used the USS Abraham Lincoln as a giant, nuclear-powered strap-on, that was as brazen an exhibition of cross-dressing as there's ever been. -- Mark Simpson SH McCleary Prodigal Dog Communications PO Box 6163 Arlington, VA 22206 shmac@prodigaldog.com www.prodigaldog.com www.1480kHz.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 12:13:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Danny Lieberman" Subject: Re: OT: Cold Mountain (spoilers) > The Odyssey? > Sumi Actually it sounds more like Preston Sturges' comedy THE MIRACLE OF MORGAN CREEK starring Betty Hutton, Eddie Bracken, and William Demarest. > >>> Marcy Tanter 01/11/04 07:05AM >>> > We saw this movie last night. Am I wrong or is this story very similar > to > something else? I haven't read the novel, so it's not that I'm > comparing it > to the book. It's this plot of man goes off, woman struggles at home, > man > struggles hard to get back to woman, they have sex, he dies the next > day, > she's pregnant after the one night (her first time of course) and her > life > goes on as a tribute to him, sort of. I thought it wasn't a bad movie > but > the plot just seems soooo familiar. > > Marcy > - -- Danny Lieberman dfl@panix.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 09:35:20 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Hey, should I vote for this guy? on 1/12/04 8:32 AM, Scott Hunter McCleary at shmac@ix.netcom.com wrote: > Jeme said: >> Maybe you should track him down to have that discussion. And bring a Bible. > > Wait a couple years -- mark my words, that daughter's about a decade > short of full-blown hottie. ;) One can only hope she follows the > time-honored tradition of proving a monumental source of discomfort > for her wound-up-just-a-couple-times-too-many Texas politician father. > > Hmm, seems to have gotten pics in front of all the relevant tourist > spots except maybe the "Arbeit Macht Frei" gates. Sheesh. The Statue of Liberty and Liberty Bell photos seem to have had chldren added via Photoshop. "Stop funding: Welfare, Food Stamps, Medicaid, Medicare, unemployment insurance, government schools, Social Security, HUD." Let's see how he feels about that when he's laid off and one of his kids gets a terminal illness. "He believes that God's word, the Bible, is the foundation for all law." Then he's living in the wrong country. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 13:37:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Re: Hey, should I vote for this guy? > "The most important decision in all my life occurred when I was five. > I asked Jesus to save me from hell. My family and Sunday school > teachers had told me the fate of those who reject Christ." > > That is f*cked up, man. Poor guy never had a chance. Maybe he asked Jesus to save him from his extreme fundamentalist parents and domineering Sunday School teacher, which seems like hell to me. Doesn't look like he got help. Jon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:37:00 -0800 From: Eb Subject: This is just plain creepy http://www.cnn.com/video/us/2002/02/25/ashcroft.sings.wbtv.med.html Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 11:44:23 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: OT: Cold Mountain (spoilers) >We saw this movie last night. Am I wrong or is this story very similar to >something else? I haven't read the novel, so it's not that I'm comparing it >to the book. It's this plot of man goes off, woman struggles at home, man >struggles hard to get back to woman, they have sex, he dies the next day, >she's pregnant after the one night (her first time of course) and her life >goes on as a tribute to him, sort of. I thought it wasn't a bad movie but >the plot just seems soooo familiar. at a reach, that could be a description of "Terminator"! James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:06:51 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: But when the day comes, forget contacts... glasses all the way Natalie (re: Car Wheels etc.): >>I guess I sounded too harsh on the album... It's very good, her voice >>is terrific, and I love the way the lyrics are so detailed (there's an image >>in the title track of the kid with tears and dirt on her face - great stuff), >>but it feels sort of broken-in already, like I've already heard it and loved >>it to death and I don't really need to listen to it anymore. Point taken. It seems that about 50% of the "new" records I fall in love with these days sort of match this description, except I do feel like listening to them over and over again... as much out of shock that someone made another one of "those" records without it being some derivitave lifeless thing without its own identity as for any other reason. One of the strongest such experiences I can recall in recent (and this gives you some idea what "recent" indicates to me) years was with Wilco's "Being There" when that first came out. Can't quite pin down what differentiates a classic-sounding record that sems also classic in itself like that one from, say, a really good-for-Supergrass Supergrass record, other than that the latter just feels less filling, as the beer ad goes. Mmmm. Beer. Umm, what? The other 50% are of course those "what the hell, this doesn't sound like anything I've ever heard before" records that still occasionally happen, although usually by accident. On "Confusion": >>You mean the "rocking" rep? I was expecting to be the record to be more >>straightforward rock in the same way that their late-80's/early 90's stuff >>is (Daydream Nation, etc.). I think they're defined mainly by that era in >>their career. Right. In that era they would often talk about how their early fans were disappointed that the new stuff "didn't sound like Confusion", and as someone who started with "Sister " and "DN" and kept reading that these were more "conventional" than their early records, I think I expected CIS to be more "punk rock" than those later ones, 'cuz that was (is?) usually the nature of those kinds of cries of "sellout". Mind you, it was really quite a compressed period of time between my buying DN and amassing pretty much the entire SY back catalog, way back in the day, but I still remember being surprised by the sound of Confusion. Miles: >>I wonder if someone did a homemade Let's Active mix for Beane, or if >>he's just thinking of the afoot/CYPRESS CD as a compilation. My guess: homemade comp, but a solicited one. Most people rarely register the band name when their friends out-of-the-blue give them a disc and say "I think you'd really like these guys". I stopped trying years ago, but I still often do this when people *ask* me to. Jon: >>I learned that given the chance to make requests, Robyn fans will >>largely stump for the RH Novelty Catalog. Spanner Ralph, Victorian >>>Squid, Ted Woody and Junior, etc. Those are the "other" fans, kind of. More on the TMBG/Dead Milkmen/Nu-Wave side of the spectrum than the typical Syd/Beefheart/Byrds dorks on this list. I kid, but I love. Max: >>Ira played drums on a very shabby Rock and Roll Toilet. Lord, couldn't someone find him a drum stool? Oh, wait... Matt: >>Fegs, we have an impostor! I bet he doesn't even wear glasses... Okay, am I gonna be the first one here to cop to damned near perfect vision? Damned shame... I look a little bit better with glasses than without. Offsets the eyebrows, you know... - -Rex, who had reading glasses for his Halloween costume as Mitch "Mitch & Mickey" Cohen but left them behind at the party, and later denied that they were his when asked because why would they be, only to realize later that they were, but by then my friend had started using them in her jewelry crafting, and thus is just happy they found a good home ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 20:33:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Re: This is just plain creepy He should do a duet with William Shatner. This ranks down there with his worst. "Let the eagle soar..." "I wrote 'Tek-war'..." On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:37:00 -0800, Eb wrote : > http://www.cnn.com/video/us/2002/02/25/ashcroft.sings.wbtv.med.htm l > > Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 02:10:43 -0800 From: Eb Subject: J. Demme's OTHER one-man-film subject in trouble? AP NEW YORK - Actor-writer Spalding Gray has been reported missing, police said. Police in New York City and in Southampton, N.Y., where the actor keeps his primary home, were searching for the actor. No further details were immediately available and the investigation was ongoing early Tuesday, said Sgt. Michael Wysokowski, an NYPD spokesman. Gray's disappearance was reported Sunday, according to a story in Tuesday editions of the New York Times. Gray, perhaps best known for writing and appearing in the autobiographical film "Swimming to Cambodia" (1987), had a history of depression and had tried to commit suicide in 2002, the Times reported. His brother, Rockwell Gray, a professor of English at Washington University in St. Louis, said he had last seen the actor around Christmas. "I wouldn't say he was in a happy state," Rockwell Gray told the newspaper. But "it wasn't unusual. He's been in a fairly depressed condition for some time." Gray's wife, Kathleen Russo, told the Times she had been waiting for information about him but would not discuss his disappearance. Gray co-founded the experimental Wooster Group theater in New York in 1977. He has appeared in such films as "Kate & Leopold" (2001), "The Paper" (1994) and "Beaches" (1988). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 06:43:14 -0600 (CST) From: tanter@tarleton.edu Subject: REAP? MSNBC reports that Spaulding Gray is missing. Missing??? Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:17:33 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Reap Harold Shipman, found hanging from his cell in Wakefield prison. Britain's worst serial killer, it says here, but surely he was Britain's *best* serial killer? He murdered over 200 people, far-and-away more victims than any other serial killer... Cheers Matt >From: tanter@tarleton.edu >Reply-To: tanter@tarleton.edu >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: REAP? >Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 06:43:14 -0600 (CST) > >MSNBC reports that Spaulding Gray is missing. Missing??? > >Marcy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Reduce spam in your inbox with MSN 8's intelligent junk e-mail filters. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:30:45 -0500 From: fingerpuppets Subject: maxwell's early show on stg http://www.sharingthegroove.org/msgboard/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33655 Robyn Hitchcock January 9, 2004 - Early Show Maxwell's Hoboken, NJ Taper: Jason Reiser Source: Schoeps MK4 > Sonosax SX-M2/ls > Sony SBM-1 > Sony TCD-D8 (mics spread ~ 17cm @ 90 degrees, 7 feet high just forward of soundboard) DAT > SHN: Tascam DA-30mkII > Zefiro ZA-2 > WinNT4 PC > CoolEdit 96 > CD Wave 1.9 > mkwACT 0.96f ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:03:45 -0600 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Mystery salmon This is a comic drawn by Graham Roumieu. It meets most or all of the Major Robyn Hitchcock Song Criteria: * death * fish * death by fish * gurgling behind a hedge * policemen (hell, they may be singing, for all we know) * bushes * one living thing passing through or becoming another living thing ("And the shapes between us turn into animals..." and "I'm into you so far I'm out the other side") * two people describing the same thing two different ways ("it's a sidelong glance in a full-on world" and "a cartoon man in the real world") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 08:33:25 -0800 From: "Brian" Subject: New Snail now available... Well worth getting... just ask Marc Holden! - -Nuppy - -- Brian nightshadecat@mailbolt.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #11 *******************************