From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V13 #4 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, January 6 2004 Volume 13 : Number 004 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: TV fans... ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: Poor Brit ["Fortissimo" ] RE: TV fans... ["Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" ] RE: A Very Minor Christmas ["Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" ] question for the musical Fegs [Scott Hunter McCleary ] Re: question for the musical Fegs [Tom Clark ] re: tenor guitar ["Marc Holden" ] the Ray Davies news [Jill Brand ] reap [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: reap [Eb ] reap [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: reap [Tom Clark ] Re: reap [Eb ] Re: the Ray Davies news [Mike Swedene ] Re: arrested development [Tom Rodebaugh ] Re: question for the musical Fegs ["Matt Sewell" ] Re: reap ["Matt Sewell" ] Re: question for the musical Fegs [] Re: TV fans... ["Brian" ] littleneck guitar ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: littleneck guitar ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Every year I say I'm not gonna bother, and every year I cave... ["Rex.Bro] Re: Every year I say I'm not gonna bother, and every year I cave...Baby Blue? [Jeff Dwarf ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 18:09:58 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: RE: TV fans... >From: Eb >Subject: TV fans... >Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 15:04:28 -0800 >Does anyone have anything wonderful to say about the show "Arrested >Development"? I keep hearing buzz about it, but have yet to see an episode. I think it's just about the best thing on TV. Remember to always watch the scenes from next week, they are fake. Max _________________________________________________________________ Working moms: Find helpful tips here on managing kids, home, work  and yourself. http://special.msn.com/msnbc/workingmom.armx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 17:27:04 -0600 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: Poor Brit On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 11:35:11 -0800 (PST), "Mike Swedene" said: > I smell MONEY. > Where are the lawyers? It strikes me there is NO > PRE-NUP.... > > http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2004-01-04-britney_x.htm Gott *damn!* I swear, I was *in* Las Vegas this last weekend! Man, I missed it. - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Solipsism is its own reward :: :: --Crow T. Robot ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 15:26:48 -0800 From: "Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" Subject: RE: TV fans... Eb said: > Does anyone have anything wonderful to say about the show "Arrested > Development"? I keep hearing buzz about it, but have yet to see an > episode. I taped the "rerun marathon" which was on recently, but > somehow accidentally taped over it. Drat. I think it's pretty good but not great. The only really funny things are David Cross, Jeffery Tambor, the boys crush on his cousin. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 15:34:28 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: A Very Minor Christmas James: >>I kinda like the rare minor chord carols, like "God rest ye merry, >>gentlemen", which would sound good sung by RH. The only other >>minor-chord carol I can think of is "We three kings" Throw in "Carol of the Bells", "Patapan", "Lullay My Liking", "Bye Bye Thou Little Tiny Child"... hey, that's kind of a lot. And that weird Britten stuff, who knows what kind of key those are in. Eb: >>Are LA/OC subscribers aware of this new station "Indie 103.1"? It's >>like college radio gone commercial! Wow! I just heard about this (having been out of town)... really curious. I can't get it here at work... do they play anything current at all? Everything Eb and my buddy Michael have cited has been of a certain vintage (except Interpol, which might as well be). Ken: >>Here's the question: why were you in said redneck bar? Uhhhhhh... needed a drink at 2AM, and the only kind of bars available were the redneck kind? Wasn't there long. Call it cultural spelunking. Plus in WV we have grandparents to watch the kids at night. In LA not so much. - -Rex "she wasn't bad looking for a grandmother, either" Broome ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 16:00:59 -0800 From: "Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" Subject: RE: A Very Minor Christmas Eb: > >>Are LA/OC subscribers aware of this new station "Indie 103.1"? It's > >>like college radio gone commercial! Wow! > > I just heard about this (having been out of town)... really curious. I > can't get it here at work... do they play anything current at all? > Everything Eb and my buddy Michael have cited has been of a certain > vintage (except Interpol, which might as well be). This sounds like the new "alternative classics" format. In Seattle, both 96.5, which used to be an 80s oldies station, and 107.7, the venerable "alternative" station switched to this format over the holidays. The Stranger had an article on it last week: http://www.thestranger.com/2004-01-01/music.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 16:05:07 -0800 From: Eb Subject: RE: A Very Minor Christmas > > >>Are LA/OC subscribers aware of this new station "Indie 103.1"? It's >> >>like college radio gone commercial! Wow! >> >> I just heard about this (having been out of town)... really curious. >I >> can't get it here at work... do they play anything current at all? >> Everything Eb and my buddy Michael have cited has been of a certain >> vintage (except Interpol, which might as well be). > >This sounds like the new "alternative classics" format. In Seattle, >both 96.5, which used to be an 80s oldies station, and 107.7, the >venerable "alternative" station switched to this format over the >holidays. The Stranger had an article on it last week: >http://www.thestranger.com/2004-01-01/music.html Wow! They are playing Three O'Clock/"Cantaloupe Girlfriend" right now. That's pretty far down the obscurity chain. Regarding new music, I think I've heard the Strokes and Polyphonic Spree this afternoon...and there was some other stuff which I couldn't recognize. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 19:11:19 -0500 From: Scott Hunter McCleary Subject: question for the musical Fegs I'm about a week away from having a completed CD. Five years ago, I used mp3.com for distribution of my last disc and it worked pretty well. Since mp3.com may or may not be out of commission permanently (it's been absorbed and frankly I don't hold out much hope of it ever coming back), I'm wondering how other Fegs handle homemade CD distribution. I'm not ruling out doing a PayPal thing and doing the shipping and handling thing myself (I do have a couple kids I could put to work on fulfillment), and have been searching the past week through a lot of sites that do about what mp3.com did, but I wonder if I'm not missing something (or ignoring some otherwise painfully obvious method). I'm burning these myself -- at least at the outset - -- and I don't anticipate this thing going platinum or anything, but I would like to at least make back the $80 it's cost me so far. Thanks. Offlist me if you have to. If you're really bored, I have a few fairly hefty mp3s up at http://www.prodigaldog.com/mp3s.html Scott - -- ========= When Air National Guard absentee George W. Bush dressed up in Cruise's "Top Gun" costume and used the USS Abraham Lincoln as a giant, nuclear-powered strap-on, that was as brazen an exhibition of cross-dressing as there's ever been. -- Mark Simpson SH McCleary Prodigal Dog Communications PO Box 6163 Arlington, VA 22206 shmac@prodigaldog.com www.prodigaldog.com www.1480kHz.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 16:29:54 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: question for the musical Fegs On Mon, 5 Jan 2004, Scott Hunter McCleary wrote: > I'm about a week away from having a completed CD. Five years ago, I used > mp3.com for distribution of my last disc and it worked pretty well. > Since mp3.com may or may not be out of commission permanently (it's been > absorbed and frankly I don't hold out much hope of it ever coming back), > I'm wondering how other Fegs handle homemade CD distribution. I'm not > ruling out doing a PayPal thing and doing the shipping and handling > thing myself (I do have a couple kids I could put to work on > fulfillment), and have been searching the past week through a lot of > sites that do about what mp3.com did, but I wonder if I'm not missing > something (or ignoring some otherwise painfully obvious method). I'm > burning these myself -- at least at the outset -- and I don't anticipate > this thing going platinum or anything, but I would like to at least make > back the $80 it's cost me so far. Give away the disks to get people to come to your live shows. Make your money back by performing. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 17:20:17 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: question for the musical Fegs on 1/5/04 4:11 PM, Scott Hunter McCleary at shmac@ix.netcom.com wrote: > I'm about a week away from having a completed CD. Five years ago, I > used mp3.com for distribution of my last disc and it worked pretty > well. Since mp3.com may or may not be out of commission permanently > (it's been absorbed and frankly I don't hold out much hope of it ever > coming back), I'm wondering how other Fegs handle homemade CD > distribution. I'm not ruling out doing a PayPal thing and doing the > shipping and handling thing myself (I do have a couple kids I could > put to work on fulfillment), and have been searching the past week > through a lot of sites that do about what mp3.com did, but I wonder > if I'm not missing something (or ignoring some otherwise painfully > obvious method). I'm burning these myself -- at least at the outset > -- and I don't anticipate this thing going platinum or anything, but > I would like to at least make back the $80 it's cost me so far. > > Thanks. Offlist me if you have to. If you're really bored, I have a > few fairly hefty mp3s up at http://www.prodigaldog.com/mp3s.html > I haven't used them for cd's, but cafepress has an interesting looking service: http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/sell/cds.aspx - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 18:44:19 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: re: tenor guitar >>just looked it up. It's a tenor guitar Rex said: >Neko's is electric, right? Don't see that too often. She had an electric (a Gibson, Les Paul model no less) and an acoustic. btw--thanks to whoever mentioned the Golden Smog albums last digest. I picked up the 2 full length albums when they came out, but didn't listen to them much because I was buying a lot of CDs (too many) at the time. I'm still getting too many, but I've been making a point of listening to less familiar ones more frequently. I guess they'll hit the rotation again soon. Later, Marc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 20:47:12 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: the Ray Davies news I'm sure glad that I got a phone call from my friend Miriam telling me what had happened to Ray Davies before I read any of my e-mail because I might have had a stroke while reading if I hadn't known that he was going to be OK. What a great start to 2004. But really, what was he thinking? I mean, you let the assholes take the handbag; you don't go running after them. God save the Kinks and especially Ray Davies. Jill, who fell in love with RDD on December 5, 1970 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 18:26:39 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: reap Tug McGraw, former relief pitcher, father of hideous country singer Tim http://www.nbc10.com/news/2742861/detail.html ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 18:31:23 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: reap >Tug McGraw, former relief pitcher, father of hideous >country singer Tim > http://www.nbc10.com/news/2742861/detail.html And I heard that Larry Hagman is going down fast. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 18:35:45 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: reap Tug McGraw, former relief pitcher, father of hideous country singer Tim http://www.nbc10.com/news/2742861/detail.html ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 19:23:10 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: reap on 1/5/04 6:26 PM, Jeff Dwarf at munki1972@yahoo.com wrote: > Tug McGraw, former relief pitcher, father of hideous > country singer Tim > > http://www.nbc10.com/news/2742861/detail.html > Bummer. Growing up as a Mets fan, Tug was one of my heroes. And just for the record - whenever you see some sports fan holding up a sign that says "Ya Gotta Believe", remember that the phrase was orginated by Tug during the '73 pennant race. It's always a shame when a son outlives his father... - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 19:43:40 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: reap >It's always a shame when a son outlives his father... The other option ain't really a picnic, either. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 19:55:25 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Re: the Ray Davies news - --- Jill Brand wrote: > But really, what was he thinking? I mean, you let > the assholes take the > handbag; you don't go running after them. > > God save the Kinks and especially Ray Davies. Perhaps his album sales will sky rocket among the hip hop crowd... now that he has some street cred, look out 50 cent!!! mike __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 18:19:48 -0500 From: Tom Rodebaugh Subject: Re: arrested development Eb asked about arrested development: it is one of the few things i watch on television, and one of the few shows that makes me laugh consistently. for a half-hour sit-com, it is extremely inventive without (so far) being simply purposefully outrageous. i'm not sure this will hold, because it's just based on my wife and i, but i laugh at it the same way i laughed at the movie rushmore, and she doesn't laugh at it, just as she didn't laugh at rushmore. just some thoughts while waiting for a study patient to not call me back. . . cheers, tom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 11:03:52 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: question for the musical Fegs Hahahahahahahaha! Is this a possibility in the US? Certainly not here - I used the Two-step Cappy plan to make up the #100-odd spent on the recording, and so far (15 months later) I have managed to recoup, what, nearly #20? I'd prefer to give recordings away and make money performing, but then I love performing, but what about musicians and songwriters who don't? A good example would be Nick Drake, who recorded some of my personal fave albums of all time but who hated performing the point of being unable to do it - perhaps he should have funded his albums by working in a hat shop or haberdashery? ;0) Cheers Matt >From: Capuchin >Give away the disks to get people to come to your live shows. Make your >money back by performing. > >J. >-- >_______________________________________________ > >Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get a free connection, half-price modem and one month FREE, when you sign up for BT Broadband today! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 06:54:12 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: reap I'm surprised the UK fegs missed Peter Carter-Ruck, libel lawyer extraordinaire, known to Private Eye readers as "Peter Carter-Fuck". Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 12:29:26 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: reap And Bob Monkhouse carked it recently too... >From: "Stewart C. Russell" >Reply-To: "Stewart C. Russell" > >I'm surprised the UK fegs missed Peter Carter-Ruck, libel lawyer >extraordinaire, known to Private Eye readers as "Peter Carter-Fuck". > > Stewart - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Subscribe to MSN 8 today for a better internet experience and save over 25% on the usual price! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 10:46:31 -0500 From: Subject: Re: question for the musical Fegs [demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] This isn't an electronic method and I wouldn't recommend pushing MP3 discs in this method exclusively but one of the easiest methods is self peddling. There are lots of people on the street who will pay 8-10 bucks for a disc. Throw in even semi-interesting cover art and you will sell loads more. Around Dallas the local Hastings as well as Bill's Records and Tapes plus pretty much all the used CD shop's will gladly sell local music. I have made well over 2 grand in the last few years with very little effort. It's an easy way to get contacts and new friends of all flavors. On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 19:11 , Scott Hunter McCleary sent: >I'm about a week away from having a completed CD. Five years ago, I >used mp3.com for distribution of my last disc and it worked pretty >well. Since mp3.com may or may not be out of commission permanently >(it's been absorbed and frankly I don't hold out much hope of it ever >coming back), I'm wondering how other Fegs handle homemade CD >distribution. I'm not ruling out doing a PayPal thing and doing the >shipping and handling thing myself (I do have a couple kids I could >put to work on fulfillment), and have been searching the past week >through a lot of sites that do about what mp3.com did, but I wonder >if I'm not missing something (or ignoring some otherwise painfully >obvious method). I'm burning these myself -- at least at the outset >-- and I don't anticipate this thing going platinum or anything, but >I would like to at least make back the $80 it's cost me so far. > >Thanks. Offlist me if you have to. If you're really bored, I have a >few fairly hefty mp3s up at http://www.prodigaldog.com/mp3s.html > - ---- Msg sent via WebMail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 09:02:16 -0800 From: "Brian" Subject: Re: TV fans... I for 1 love the show. Interesting chain of events type show in a Royal Tennanbaumls (sp?) way. On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 15:04:28 -0800, "Eb" said: > Does anyone have anything wonderful to say about the show "Arrested > Development"? I keep hearing buzz about it, but have yet to see an > episode. I taped the "rerun marathon" which was on recently, but > somehow accidentally taped over it. Drat. > > Eb - -- Brian nightshadecat@mailbolt.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 10:06:26 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: littleneck guitar Marc: >>Rex said: >>>Neko's is electric, right? Don't see that too often. >>She had an electric (a Gibson, Les Paul model no less) and an acoustic. Whoa, weird! I just did a little looking around and couldn't find an example of the Les Paul Tenor, but I DID find a Tenor SG, with a Bigsby tremolo bar, no less... a very odd looking thing to see. If memory serves, Nat asked Neko about the tenor and she pretty much said she favored it because she has small hands and likes the fact that the neck's not as wide. I just mention this because it sounds sort of dirty. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 11:15:54 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: littleneck guitar At 10:06 AM 1/6/2004 -0800, Rex.Broome wrote: >Whoa, weird! I just did a little looking around and couldn't find an >example of the Les Paul Tenor, but I DID find a Tenor SG, with a Bigsby >tremolo bar, no less... a very odd looking thing to see. I don't remember ever seeing a tenor guitar in person, but they're tuned in 5ths like a mandolin, violin, the bass side of a Chapman Stick or Robert Fripp's guitar, which on a 4-string would give you about the same the range as a 5-string guitar tuned in 4ths (or mostly 4ths). - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 12:16:22 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Every year I say I'm not gonna bother, and every year I cave... Okay, finally had to knuckle down and do it... the Year-End list. Looks like it was a better year for music than I thought... look at all the great stuff that came out in 2003! 1) Television, Marquee Moon 2) Neil Young, On the Beach 3) The Clean, Anthology 4) Gene Clark, White Light 5) Let's Active, Big Plans for Everybody 6) Television, Adventure 7) Judee Sill, Judee Sill 8) Guadalcanal Diary, Walking in the Shadow of the Big Man / Jamboree 9) Judee Sill, Heart Food 10) Laika, Lost in Space 1993-2002 What's that you say? The list is supposed have records on it which were not only released in 2003, but also contain music not previously heard in past years? Well, shit. That's a whole different thing, huh? Well, if you insist. Only the very top entries below would really displace the lower entries on the list above, and hey, the #2 entry has a lot of previously issued stuff on it and #5 is a remake of an album that's older than most of the reissues cited above. And #9 has the same title as a record that came out in 1986, for what that's worth. 1) Lucinda Williams, World Without Tears 2) Wire, Send 3) Long Winters, When I Pretend to Fall 4) New Pornographers, Electric Version 5) Carla Bozulich, The Red Headed Stranger 6) Califone, Quicksand/Cradlesnakes 7) The Go-Betweens, Bright Yellow Bright Orange 8) Starlight Mints, Built on Squares 9) Throwing Muses, Throwing Muses 10) Robyn Hitchcock, Luxor It was a year of mehhh records from a lot of my reliable list-topping artists. I still have a list of about five more records to check out, mostly by new-to-me artists, and if even two of those catch fire with me, that will probably result in a modern first for me: Robyn and Kristin Hersh releases docked from the top ten. Weird. Neil Young is *already* off the list, although just barely-- I liked his record more than most folks, but it's just too problematic to fully reward with Top 10 placement. Somewhere in the same neighborhood are Stew, the Pernice Bros, and the Dead Guys Last Records Club (AKA CSZ, Cash Strummer & Zevon). Ross from a while back: >>if you keep the volume low, "Paris 1919" can pass for Xmas music ... Nope-- Halloween all the way, what with you being a ghost la la la la la la lala la and all that. But if you need some seasonal Cale, there's always "A Child's Christmas in Wales" (which, come to think of it, mentions Halloween as well). - -Rex, actually able to listen to stuff with the wife and kids still back east for another few days ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 12:55:58 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Every year I say I'm not gonna bother, and every year I cave...Baby Blue? "Rex.Broome" wrote: > Somewhere in the same neighborhood are > Stew, the Pernice Bros, and the Dead Guys Last > Records Club (AKA CSZ, Cash Strummer & Zevon). CSZ? And Cash's contribution to the DGLRC actually comes out later this year; American IV came out in 2002. Unless you meant June's. This has nothing to do with this any of this but to recall a distant thread of no interest to anyone other than Rex and I..... One of my presents this year was Chris Adams's Bunnymen "bio" _Turquoise Days_ and in it he quotes Will as saying that the Bunnymen version of "It's all Over Now, Baby Blue" was influenced most by The Chocolate Watchband's. Have no idea how much there's sounds like either Them's or The Byrds's though (the ones that I (them) and Rex (both) thought the Bunnymen version sounded like. Please pretend that all made sense. ===== "Life is just a series of dogs." -- George Carlin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 19:31:37 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Apple announcements Among SJ's MacWorld San Francisco announcements: New app "Garage Band" - a consumer 64 track recording studio. Part of the $49 iLife package, or free with any new Mac. Tiny 4GB "iPod mini" Oh, and the iTunes Music Store will now list the Billboard charts back to 1946, with purchase links to most of the tracks. Something that might appeal to this list. - -tc np: Tom Waits "Tom Traubert's Blues" ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V13 #4 ******************************