From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #453 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, December 7 2003 Volume 12 : Number 453 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: remember, kids, don't drink and post about Jim O'Rourke ["Jon Lewis" ] Re: Bad Timing [Eb ] Re: tonights show at Maxwells postponed ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: The Fall and Rise of RP ["cmb adams" ] Re: remember, kids, don't drink and post about Jim O'Rourke ["Natalie Jac] Re: remember, kids, don't drink and post about Jim O'Rourke ["Fortissimo"] films and apostrophes [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Share the music, share the love, share the bandwidth [Johnathan Vail ] The Fall and Rise of Reginal Perrin ["da9ve stovall" ] Re: Share the music, share the love, share the bandwidth [Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: remember, kids, don't drink and post about Jim O'Rourke > I found a used copy of the amusingly-titled "I'm Happy and I'm Singing and a > One-Two-Three-Four" and fortunately managed to listen to it in the store > before buying - it's Jim's "laptop" record, and I couldn't decide whether I > liked it or not, because electronic music is still out of my musical > orbit... I decided to think about it and come back later, by which time > someone had bought it already. Used O'Rourke records are very hard to come > by. (My copy of Bad Timing is used.) The one I really want to hear is the southern-rock boogie one. I think it was from last year? Damn his forgettable titles... was it Eureka? I remember a WIRE review making Allmann Bros. comparisons, and I was intrigued by that alchemy. > Yeah, actually I really like it - though oddly I like the instrumental songs > better than the ones with vocals. I listened to the first Gastr del Sol > record in the store (caveat emptor, again) and didn't like it much, but the > second one is supposed to be good. The first one meaning the one with the black & white cover? That one's not very good and not very representative. My faves are Upgrade & Afterlife (4th record) and especially especially the Mirror Repair EP (third record), which is just about a perfect little record. Crookt Crakt Or Fly (second record) is quite worthwhile too, more rockin' and Beefhearty. There's also the Harp Factory On Lake Street EP on Table of the ELements, which is a long, non-song, spacious and beautiful 20c Classical kind of piece. Upgrade & Afterlife might appeal most to the lover of Bad Timing, what with its closing 15 minute Fahey cover. (Also, I'll bet BT was named after that Roeg film. I seem to recall Nicholas Roeg is one of O'Rourke's pet obsessions.) Jon Lewis ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:24:23 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Bad Timing >>>Bad Timing: A Sensual Obsession? > >>That's the one *I* am talking about, anyway ... ;-) Do you know it? I've seen it twice...long ago, and somewhat more recently on IFC or the Sundance Channel. I don't remember it well enough to give detailed comments, but I recall thinking Garfunkel's vacant screen presence was a big problem for an otherwise interesting film. I saw "Birdman of Alcatraz" the other night...fine film. Right now, I'm about halfway through "One, Two, Three," which seems so hysterically funny that I can't believe I hadn't really heard of the film before. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 15:30:10 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: tonights show at Maxwells postponed >From: "Jon Lewis" >Subject: Re: tonights show at Maxwells postponed >Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:50:27 -0500 > > I just called Maxwells and got a recorded announcement that tonight's > > show has been rescheduled for Friday, January 9th. All tickets for > > tonight will be honored on that date, or you can get refunds, etc > > at point of purchase. > > Considering the blizzardness of the area today I was not looking > > forward to the travel to Hoboken. >I just heard the message myself. I'm a mixture of relieved at not having to >make the journey and disappointed at losing the opportunity to see what >might have turned out to be the most intimate Robyn show ever. Try driving from Philly(well on the Jesey side of the bridge) and getting to New Brunswick before we found out! It took us 2 hours alone to get there, it is usually like 45 or so. We just happened to call Maxwe'ss to check and sure enough. What a collosul waste of time. Max _________________________________________________________________ Shop online for kids toys by age group, price range, and toy category at MSN Shopping. No waiting for a clerk to help you! http://shopping.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 15:43:13 -0600 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: testy and content-free...sorry ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: crumple zones:: :: harmful or fatal if swallowed :: :: small-craft warning :: ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:03:47 -0700 From: "cmb adams" Subject: Re: The Fall and Rise of RP On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:08:04 -0500, Jon Lewis wrote > > My mind just did the same "ah! He's back!" as Reggie Perrin did at the > > reappearance of the hippo. > > Thank you for mentioning Reginald Perrin! I live in a world where no > one remembers that show. Whenever I get in a conversation that involves > reminiscing about favorite old "britcoms", I always mention it, no one's > ever heard of it, and I'm utterly unable to get across its greatness > by mere description. I loved that show. I hate to say it, but I think it had some sort of seminal influence on my attitudes toward work, life, success, money, etc. probably not as much as dr who, but close. put me down for the DVD collection too. butterflies, I could miss though. it always seemed like it should be really good, but it just never clicked for me. too soap opera-y, and the main character was just such a bozo. I always left it on for the theme song though. joni mitchell, wasn't it? and on a weird british actor side note, I was watching the Omen the other night and was delighted to discover that it not only featured an insane priest played by patrick troughton, but also a bad ass exorcist played by leo mckern! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 15:38:30 -0800 From: "Natalie Jacobs" Subject: Re: remember, kids, don't drink and post about Jim O'Rourke >The one I really want to hear is the southern-rock boogie one. I think it >was from last year? Damn his forgettable titles... was it Eureka? I >remember >a WIRE review making Allmann Bros. comparisons, and I was intrigued by that >alchemy. You're probably thinking of Insignificance (also named after a Roeg film, as is Eureka). The first track has a sort of "southern-rock boogie" quality, but the rest of it doesn't really, and I've read in interviews that Jim vehemently denies any intentional "southern-rock boogie-ness." It's a fucking fantastic album, though. (Note to Miles, etc. - Jeff Tweedy and Glenn Kotche play on assorted tracks.) Eureka - the one with the man masturbating with a toy bunny on the cover - is also good, and I've been obsessively listening to the Halfway to a Threeway EP lately. Both records also feature the prodigious drumming talents of the aforementioned Mr. Kotche. >Crookt Crakt Or Fly (second record) >is quite worthwhile too, more rockin' and Beefhearty. It was that one that I listened to and didn't like. Or rather, I was unsure of whether I liked it or not, and ended up not buying it, and someone else bought it (this keeps happening to me). There's also the Harp >Factory On Lake Street EP on Table of the ELements, which is a long, >non-song, spacious and beautiful 20c Classical kind of piece. That sounds good... I'll have to check that out. n. p.s. One reason I love the feglist is that no matter what new musical discovery that I make, there's always a feg who's also into it and knows more about it than I do. Y'all are a wonderfully eclectic lot. _________________________________________________________________ Winterize your home with tips from MSN House & Home. http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 18:12:08 -0600 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: remember, kids, don't drink and post about Jim O'Rourke On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 15:38:30 -0800, "Natalie Jacobs" said: > You're probably thinking of Insignificance (also named after a Roeg film, > as > is Eureka). The first track has a sort of "southern-rock boogie" > quality, > but the rest of it doesn't really, and I've read in interviews that Jim > vehemently denies any intentional "southern-rock boogie-ness." It's a > fucking fantastic album, though. (Note to Miles, etc. - Jeff Tweedy and > Glenn Kotche play on assorted tracks.) I just picked up _Insignificance_ recently - I like much of it quite a bit. I tend to like it when avanty folks decide they're going to play it (almost) straight: there's always a little bit of offness to make things interesting. I don't know this one that well yet, but the opening track (and good luck trying to read the titles) made a recent mix I put together. I didn't think of it as "southern-rock boogie" at all - but then, I'm not into SRB, so what do I know. "play that dead band's song again!" ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: "In two thousand years, they'll still be looking for Elvis - :: this is nothing new," said the priest. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 13:25:06 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: films and apostrophes >but we saw The Last Samurai, which was worth going to, even on opening day, >great movie, i really loved it. yet another movie made here in li'l ol' NZ. Our scenery is certainly getting around, what with LoTR, TLS and also "Sylvia", much of which was shot here in Dunedin. >> omitting that comma creates an unwarranted >> stronger connection or association between the final two items of the >> series than between any other two my thoughts exactly. If I saw, f'rinstace, an ad for a concert featuring "John Cale, Robyn Hitchcock, Nick Cave and Emmylou Harris", I'd start trying to imagine what Nick and Emmylou would sound like together (I'd also be buying tickets). >But one of the strong guidelines in display typography (and this would >probably apply to album titles) is that you omit discretionary >punctuation. I thought the main rule with display typography was to make sure any apostrophes are in the wrong places. (Same with album titles, too. My favourite REM album has an annoyingly absent apostrophe[1]) >("ANGRY HOUSING MEETING WEDNESDAY") you realise, of course, the mental images this conjures up. Vaguely Terry Gilliamesque, circa 1969. Oh, and nor does it explain the curious NA habit of avoiding the word "and" in year names. It's two thousand AND three, dammit! (It's also December the seventh, not December seven!) James PS - sorry for you folks who missed out due to the weather (and sorry for my flippant comments about the weather, too) - hope the shows are rescheduled sometime. [1] no, not Eponymou's - unless it's dedicated to Stavros Eponymou, AEK Athens' Goalkeeper 1907-1909. James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 23:14:53 -0500 From: Johnathan Vail Subject: Share the music, share the love, share the bandwidth I have created and seeded a pair of torrents for the recent Feg Tree: http://bt.etree.org/download.php/919/rhitchcock2003-10-31-a.torrent http://bt.etree.org/download.php/920/rhitchcock2003-10-31-b.torrent If you are new to bit torrents check out the info at bt.etree.org for FAQs and client and so on. jv ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:43:39 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Technical Question re: bit torrents "Stewart C. Russell" wrote: > Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > Namely, once you have is, how do you get it opened > > up so you can listen to it? > > Use shorten, or shnamp, or xmms-shn to play 'em, or > to convert them to WAV to make CDs: > > > Stewart thanks. ===== "Senator John McCain recently compared the situation in Iraq to the Vietnam era -- to which President Bush replied, 'What does Iraq have in common with drinking beer in Texas?'" -- Craig Kilborn "I don't think the Bush administration lied to us about Iraq. I think it's worse than that. I think they fooled themselves. I think they were conned by Ahmad Chalabi. I think they indulged in wishful thinking to a point of near criminality. I think they decided anyone who didn't agree with them was an enemy, anti-American, disloyal. In other words, I think they're criminally stupid." -- Molly Ivins __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 06:24:13 -0800 From: "da9ve stovall" Subject: The Fall and Rise of Reginal Perrin Defying statistics, two vastly different email lists just coughed up references to TFaRoRP within the last day or so. Loved that show. In case anyone here interested didn't know, the whole series has been released on DVD: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AQVMW/202-3536532-3548652 or http://tinyurl.com/y3tq For those in the US, if you don't have a multi-region DVD player, this might be a good time to get one. da9ve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 12:56:46 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Share the music, share the love, share the bandwidth On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Johnathan Vail wrote: > If you are new to bit torrents check out the info at bt.etree.org for > FAQs and client and so on. Enlighten me here... the FAQ says the speed at which you're allowed to download from other people depends on how fast you upload. But here I am, downloading at 5KBps and uploading at 55. I like you guys and totally don't mind you using my apartment's bandwidth -- that's how this works -- but clocking ten more hours until the end of disc 1 is pretty bleak. (I'm "connected to 5 peers" so even if I'm getting all my bandwidth down from one person and splitting the upload among four people, the people downloading from *me* get to take more of my bandwidth per person than I'm using for my own benefit...) So what's up? a ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 15:05:24 -0500 From: "Jon Lewis" Subject: Re: The Fall and Rise of Reginal Perrin > In case anyone here interested didn't know, the whole series > has been released on DVD: > > > For those in the US, if you don't have a multi-region DVD player, > this might be a good time to get one. Wow... so are those hard to find/expensive? Anybody have any makers/models/prices they can recite? Jon Lewis ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #453 ********************************