From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #448 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, December 4 2003 Volume 12 : Number 448 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: Dogmaniax! ["Shane Apple" ] Prawnsongs ["Rex.Broome" ] "I walked into the house of miraculous recovery..." ["Natalie Jacobs" ] RE: more dawg songs [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: "I walked into the house of miraculous recovery..." [Jeffrey with 2 F] Re: "I walked into the house of miraculous recovery..." [Miles Goosens ] re: grading [Eb ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V12 #447 [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: more songs about [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] weird spam [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: What about the entire Snoop Dogg oeuvre? [Michael R Godwin ] re: grading [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V12 #447 [Jeff Dwarf ] reap [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V12 #447 ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Most pertinent dog song of all [AidMerr@aol.com] Re: Most pertinent dog song of all [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Most pertinent dog song of all [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V12 #447 [Capuchin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 02:18:27 +0000 From: "Shane Apple" Subject: RE: Dogmaniax! "Heinrich" by The Tiger Lillies. Warning: This track from *Farmyard Filth* (an album almost entirely devoted to bestiality including songs about hamsters, a giraffe, sheep, and even flies) is about a guy singing the praises of lovin' his German Shepherd, Heinrich. "Hip hip hip hooray, my German Shepherd I did lay. Heinrich!" To make it more perverse, accordions are involved. I'm embarassed to be asking this...I've been on this list for a very long time (8 years, I think) and I'm preparing to switch email addresses because hotmail has become about as stupid as hotmail can possibly become. Can somebody send me the unsubscribing/resubscribing details? Thanks. - --Shane n.p. John Fahey _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:22:23 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Prawnsongs Miles: >>I guess you know you're from the sticks when you have to answer "where are >>you from?" questions with "ever heard of Somewhat Larger Place X?" instead >>of where you're really from, then, if met with a negative response, move on to ] >>progressively larger places. Yeah, this puts me in a world of hurt. If Cumberland doesn't work I have to usually move on to Hagerstown, MD, which is really only distinguished by being the nearest place to have a local TV station, and even that's close to two hours drive. Since we're done with the dogs, I did do the math and find out just where the prawns are: "Creamy Prawns", Ghetto Love Sugar (free jazz/fusion) "Prawns in th Game", Barron Knights (UK parody group) "Prawn Flavor", Gritona (probably some kind of semi-hardcore indie thing) "Prawn Watching", Michael Nyman (Greenaway film sountrack cut) "King Prawn", Plastic Junk ("dubby trip-hop") "Afternoon of a Prawn", Bob Florence & Limited Edition ("modern big band") "King Prawn Sniffer", Phlegm (avant-garde with a scatalogical bent) ...and of course the "Prawns" which are well-known to be down by the sea. So no, not the arthropod most celebred in song. Shrimp get far more play, as do crabs, whose most perplexing appearance must surely be in the song "Crab N*ggas" by the Texas All-Stars. Enter at your own risk. Something's odd, though, because the "crab" search on the AMG doesn't turn up "Return of the Sacred Crab". Or, now that I look, "Crabtown" by Throwing Muses or "Crabwalk" by American Music Club. All of which are listed elsewhere. So if some of our crab songs are missing, maybe there are still some errant prawns, too. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:14:50 -0800 From: "Natalie Jacobs" Subject: "I walked into the house of miraculous recovery..." >When I write songs, I'm usually aware of every possible interpretation >before I >let anyone hear it. You do, but does that mean everybody does? I suspect many artists just write down whatever pops into their heads and prefer to let other people sort out the meanings... f'rinstance, I doubt Bob Pollard could write 20 songs a day if he agonized over every nuance in his lyrics, which I don't think he does... to assume that every single level of meaning is intentional is giving too much credit to most artists. And I really, really, really hate to even mention this, but the proofreader in me is too strong - it's "masturbation," not "mastrubation." Thanks. >...and anyone >who's done it will tell you "beating off" isn't really that hard at >all. Is that term even used in England at all? >Hey, neat, Natalie bought two records I already have. The Scud Mountain >Boys never really caught fire with me, though, so I'm still eyeing the >Pernice Bros. skeptically. Time will tell. What's the other one you own? I'm betting it's Television. I realized I hadn't finished listening to the Scud Mountain Boys record when I wrote about it before... I finally came to the conclusion that the alt-country stuff is kind of by-the-numbers and the rest of it isn't nearly up to the level of the Pernice Bros. - I guess Joe hadn't really "found his voice" yet at that point. But it's OK, I only paid $5 for it because the booklet was water-damaged. Viva Amoeba! n. _________________________________________________________________ Shop online for kids toys by age group, price range, and toy category at MSN Shopping. No waiting for a clerk to help you! http://shopping.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:29:26 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: "I walked into the house of miraculous recovery..." >And I really, really, really hate to even mention this, but the >proofreader in me is too strong - it's "masturbation," not >"mastrubation." Thanks. I've resisted saying this myself, but considering it's one of the central motifs of his grand Robyn deconstruction, I'd say the correction is warranted. ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:57:11 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Hotmail sucks/was Dogmaniax! >From: "Shane Apple" >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: RE: Dogmaniax! >Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 02:18:27 +0000 >I'm embarassed to be asking this...I've been on this list for a very long >time (8 years, I think) and I'm preparing to switch email addresses because >hotmail has become about as stupid as hotmail can possibly become. Can >somebody send me the unsubscribing/resubscribing details? Thanks. It does suck, everytime they 'improve' it it gets more hideous than the previous setup. It lists the 'contacts' by name and not by email, so if you have multiple emails I can't tell which one I am sending to. It does not tell me how many emails I have, only how many from 'contacts', although that seems to vary from time to time. I can't blame you for leaving it. Max _________________________________________________________________ Wonder if the latest virus has gotten to your computer? Find out. Run the FREE McAfee online computer scan! http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 23:44:58 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: RE: more dawg songs Quoting da9ve stovall : > Zappa - "Dog Breath, in the Year of the Plague," "Dog Breath > Variations" And of course "Evelyn, a Modified Dog" ..Jeff, pondering the significance of short-person behavior in pedal-depressed, panchromatic resonance and other highly ambiant domains J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb :: --Batman ps: "Arf" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 00:03:41 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: "I walked into the house of miraculous recovery..." Quoting Natalie Jacobs : > And I really, really, really hate to even mention this, but the > proofreader > in me is too strong - it's "masturbation," not "mastrubation." Oh, *now* I see what all the controversy is about. According to the Really Really Unabridged Dictionary by Bob's Words 'R' Us and Bar & Grill LLC, "mastrubation" is defined as follows: "1. A simple, straightforward love song, often about a particular, identifiable person." So there you have it. Controversy resolved. Oh, and: Quoting Eb : > Grading the RH albums is a bit hackneyed, so why not just grade the > other gradings instead? I give Eb's grade-grading a B+. ..Jeff, wondering if the list will be besieged by google-search - -wielding fans of dogs and West Virginia... J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: it's not your meat :: :: --Mr. Toad nr: Colson Whitehead _John Henry Days_ - parts of which are set in...West Virginia! Whoo-hoo. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 00:14:02 -0600 (GMT-06:00) From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: "I walked into the house of miraculous recovery..." Jeffrey: >..Jeff, wondering if the list will be besieged by google-search >-wielding fans of dogs and West Virginia... Damn you, Norman, you've discovered our secret plot! Rex, fire up the jalopy -- we must take shelter in our secret base at Cucumber... later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:17:05 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: "I walked into the house of miraculous recovery..." > > Grading the RH albums is a bit hackneyed, so why not just grade the >> other gradings instead? > >I give Eb's grade-grading a B+. I give this grade-grading-grading a B. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 23:31:18 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: re: grading Eb said: >Charlotte Tupman: B- >If I was attacked for saying RH is a B+ artist, Charlotte *really* >should be attacked, because she's rating him a solid B at best. ;) ... I wouldn't bother commenting, except for the fact that Charlotte is one of the nicest people on the list, and she was clearly grading Robyn's albums in relationship to his own work rather than that of other people. Personally, I gave all the albums, including Robyn Sings, high A's; but I was grading them as compared to Russell Hitchcock's albums. ...and I think she owes me a beer 8^) Later, Marc If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is "God is crying." And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to tell him is "Probably because of something you did." Jack Handey n.p. and REALLY enjoying Snail--Last Dog in Space ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:48:28 -0800 From: Eb Subject: re: grading >Marc: >she was clearly grading Robyn's albums in >relationship to his own work rather than that of other people. I don't believe there should be any difference between the two approaches. This is the same kind of reasoning which makes some reviewer rate the White Stripes an "A+," and then hedge his bet with "Well, I'm not saying it's as good as Sgt. Pepper -- I'm just talking in terms of *2003*." If you make the choice to use a grading scale, then damn it, be consistent. I've been constructively-criticized numerous times that I'm too harsh with my own 20-point scale, but I'm not harsh...I'm *consistent*. ;) My least favorite Hitchcock album is Groovy Decay/Decoy/Leroy. I'd give it the same grade, regardless of whether Underwater Moonlight existed or not. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:00:42 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V12 #447 >James Dignan: B > >Horribly underrates Can of Bees and the Invisibles. Likes Queen Elvis >more than A Globe of Frogs. Has never bought a self-released >Hitchcock disc. I do not underrate the invisibles! Not as good as Love and Rockets, but pretty close, and good as graphic novels go. A little more seriously, as regards the self-released Robyn discs, I own no credit card, and he has never visited New Zealand. I'd love to own his self-released albums, but the opportunity does not exist. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:00:40 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: more songs about >Also I just recently heard some old music-hall style piece called "Mad >Dogs and Englishmen" used to bookend some piece on NPR which must've had >either to do with mad dogs or Englishmen. No idea who wrote or performed >it. Noel Coward - possibly his best known comic song. Various other "dog" songs which I overlooked in that list last time: Tracking the dog - Screaming Blue Messiahs Nasty dog - Sir Mix-a-Lot A dog named Snuggles - Jacknife Lee I take it you're not gonna count Simon and Garfunkel's "The Boxer" :) >>I suspect that there are more dog songs than songs for any other >>animal... > >I'm gonna guess "horse". Lots of old ballads about horses. In the same >folk/cowboy/cornpone idioms as a lot of the dog songs, but horses seem to >have the edge. maybe... but then again, the word dog is used far more idiomatically than the word horse. ah... what a GREAT distractor task from the work I'm supposed to be doing. These are just from the titles (I'm not mad enough to go through the lyrics) of about half the songs I have in my collection - a representative sample from some 1000 albums. Because it's an incomplete sample, it's bound to have some ommissions, but the results were still intriguing. Horse scored relatively low, but then again, I don't have many old C&W ballads in my collection, which would weaken their polling. A few notes: 1) I ignored "fish", "reptile", "bird", "dinosaur", and other grab-bag categories (though I allowed snake and lizard); 2) If I have a song twice, it appears twice; 3) I ignored mythical creatures, and non-zoological terms like "serpent" and "Taurus"; 4) I ignored obvious uses of words like "fly" and "swallow" as verbs. dog 24 (including 3 pups or puppies) cat 21 (including one kitten) monkey 15 horse 8 chicken 7 (including one chook) snake 7 (incl 2 rattlesnakes, 1 anaconda, 1 python, 1 sidewinder) 6 each: bear; crow; elephant; lark; tiger. 5 each: fox; frog; leopard; lion. 4 each: eagle; fly; pig; rhino(ceros); seal; sheep; sparrow; walrus; worm 3 each: hawk; lizard; mouse (one of which - "And the mouse police never sleeps" - is about a cat); octopus; rabbit (including one bunny); scorpion; shark; spider; swan; weasel. 2 each: albatross; bat; beetle; blue jay; buffalo; butterfly; camel; cockroach; crab; dolphin; duck; flea; goose; gull; moth; owl; prawn; rat; swallow; whale; whelk. 1 each: alligator; amoeba; angelfish; ape; badger; barnacle; bass; bee; blackbird; bluebird; bull; canary; caterpiller; coelacanth; condor; crane; donkey; dragonfly; eel; emu; ferret; gibbon; goat; goldfish; gorilla; hare; hedgehog; heron; hog; jaguar; ladybird; locust; mantis; oriole; panther; parrot; pelican; pigeon; pine marten; piranha; pony; rook; salamander; sandfly; sloth; snapper; squirrel; wasp; wolf. Honourable mention also to one "Neanderthal". James ("Salmon chanted evening... you may see a stranger...") James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 23:24:39 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: weird spam You've probably all noticed, in amongst the offers of 'enlargement products' andbusiness transactions with nephews of deposed Afican leaders, that spam is now coming from some marvellously unlikely names. I just got one today from the wondrously named Cotyledon C. Surf. Is this the next place to look for surrealism? James ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:06:06 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: What about the entire Snoop Dogg oeuvre? On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Rex.Broome wrote: > Also I just recently heard some old music-hall style piece called "Mad > Dogs and Englishmen" used to bookend some piece on NPR which must've had > either to do with mad dogs or Englishmen. No idea who wrote or > performed it. Noel Coward. - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:12:16 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: re: grading On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Eb wrote: > My least favorite Hitchcock album is Groovy Decay/Decoy/Leroy. I'd > give it the same grade, regardless of whether Underwater Moonlight > existed or not. I think most people are agreed about this, but it does include "52 Stations" which is first rate, and also "St Petersburg" (IIRC). Should an album be graded on its best songs, its worst songs, or the fact that it has lots of mediocre songs? (I'm talking MaxiMins and MiniMaxes here, I think). And my favourite, the "Element of Light" LP, only has _half_ the tracks that are on the CD. Listening to all those alternative versions could easily put people off. - - MRG n.p. The Carnaby, "Jump and Dance" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 03:58:27 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: re: grading Michael R Godwin wrote: > Should an album be graded on its best songs, its > worst songs, or the fact that it has lots of > mediocre songs? (I'm talking MaxiMins and MiniMaxes > here, I think). All of the above, really. > And my favourite, the "Element of Light" LP, only > has _half_ the tracks that are on the CD. Listening > to all those alternative versions could > easily put people off. Well, bonus tracks -- providede they are clearly identified as such -- should only really be counted to the extent they add anything, whether it's just a great overlooked song or something more archaeological in nature. Also, the CD era has made the odd bad song less intrusive than thy goode olde dayes of vinylle since, instead of picking up a styllus and trying to land in the groove between songs, you can just punch a button and skip the song in question. ===== "Senator John McCain recently compared the situation in Iraq to the Vietnam era -- to which President Bush replied, 'What does Iraq have in common with drinking beer in Texas?'" -- Craig Kilborn "I don't think the Bush administration lied to us about Iraq. I think it's worse than that. I think they fooled themselves. I think they were conned by Ahmad Chalabi. I think they indulged in wishful thinking to a point of near criminality. I think they decided anyone who didn't agree with them was an enemy, anti-American, disloyal. In other words, I think they're criminally stupid." -- Molly Ivins __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 04:21:31 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V12 #447 James Dignan wrote: > A little more seriously, as regards the > self-released Robyn discs, I own no > credit card, and he has never visited New Zealand. > I'd love to own his > self-released albums, but the opportunity does not > exist. Actually, the Museum doesn't take credit cards; you can pay with a money order though. If you contacted David Greenberger, you two could figure something out. His e-mail is duplanet@nycap.rr.com (assuming I transcribed that correctly; the link would have opened Outlook, which I will not do under any circumstances!!). The contact page is: http://www.robynhitchcock.com/office.htm ===== "Senator John McCain recently compared the situation in Iraq to the Vietnam era -- to which President Bush replied, 'What does Iraq have in common with drinking beer in Texas?'" -- Craig Kilborn "I don't think the Bush administration lied to us about Iraq. I think it's worse than that. I think they fooled themselves. I think they were conned by Ahmad Chalabi. I think they indulged in wishful thinking to a point of near criminality. I think they decided anyone who didn't agree with them was an enemy, anti-American, disloyal. In other words, I think they're criminally stupid." -- Molly Ivins __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 04:37:40 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: reap The driver's side rear tire on my car. But the roadside service on my insurance came through, and I was only stranded around 45 minutes, so that was good, even if it was 1:30 in the friggin' morning. ===== "Senator John McCain recently compared the situation in Iraq to the Vietnam era -- to which President Bush replied, 'What does Iraq have in common with drinking beer in Texas?'" -- Craig Kilborn "I don't think the Bush administration lied to us about Iraq. I think it's worse than that. I think they fooled themselves. I think they were conned by Ahmad Chalabi. I think they indulged in wishful thinking to a point of near criminality. I think they decided anyone who didn't agree with them was an enemy, anti-American, disloyal. In other words, I think they're criminally stupid." -- Molly Ivins __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 07:44:18 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V12 #447 Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > Actually, the Museum doesn't take credit cards David does, indirectly, take credit cards through PayPal. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 08:37:05 -0500 From: AidMerr@aol.com Subject: Most pertinent dog song of all is of course "Smack My Bitch Up" by the Prodigy. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to be that noone's actually mentioned Pink Floyd's "Dogs". (Or Pink Floyd's "Dogs of War", come to that.) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:58:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Most pertinent dog song of all On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 AidMerr@aol.com wrote: > is of course "Smack My Bitch Up" by the Prodigy. > Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to be that noone's actually > mentioned Pink Floyd's "Dogs". (Or Pink Floyd's "Dogs of War", come to > that.) I suggest all the songs which Tony de Meur and Bobby Valentino performed in the Fabulous Poodles. And what was that Neil Innes one which included the line "You bring your love to me like a poodle in a suitcase"? 'Mr Apollo' includes the line "wrestle poodles and win". Can we count "The Dog Breath Variations" as well as "Dog Breath"? - - MRG PS Robyn's pal John Hegley writes numerous _poems_ with dogs in. PPS Just googled "poodle in a suitcase" and all I got was a mention of it by that idiot Godwin on fegmaniax. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:11:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Most pertinent dog song of all On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Michael R Godwin wrote: > PPS Just googled "poodle in a suitcase" and all I got was a mention of it > by that idiot Godwin on fegmaniax. Found it! It's called 'Carry On Melissa' and it's a aprody of a Leonard Cohen song with thie same metre. 'Suzanne' possibly? http://neilinnes.org/C.htm#carryonmelissa and the precise verse is: "You struggle like a poodle Being stuffed into a suitcase But you never dress for dinner And you seldom dine alone I'm hungry for your goulash And I'm peckish for your pizza But you drift amongst the shadows Of your parking meter zone" There is also another verse which refers to "the poodle in the suitcase of your ever-troubled mind". Now, what does that lot symbolise, Levi-Strauss fans? - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:35:38 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Most pertinent dog song of all It's me again! And not just me, but also "Me and little Andy", arguably the greatest dog song of all: "That night as they slept the angels took them both to heaven" - wah! - - Mike (sob) Godwin PS Apols if someone got this one already. n.p. Love is like a butterfly... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:20:23 -0600 From: Devin Lee Ens Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V12 #447 Jeff Dwarf wrote: >> I'm still waiting to hear why Dark Princess is >> *obviously* not about masturbation. >Because Robyn has frequently referred to his wife >(have we confirmed they married?), Michele Noach, as >being the Dark Princess. So, it would stand to reason >that the song is about her and his feelings about her. Now that's the kind of relevant point I was waiting to hear. Not conclusive (my example "Karleen" really is about a girl named Karleen, but it also really is about communism, etc.), but strong. Thank you. Devin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:23:58 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Most pertinent dog song of all On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Michael R Godwin wrote: > On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 AidMerr@aol.com wrote: > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to be that noone's actually > > mentioned Pink Floyd's "Dogs". I mentioned that one... And on the way here, I heard Neil Young's "F&$*in' Up" (or whatever characters it uses) with these lines: Dogs that lick, and dogs that bite Hounds that howl all through the night Are we through yet? - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::"Shut up, you truculent lout, and let the cute little pixie sing!":: ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 08:35:13 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: "I walked into the house of miraculous recovery..." At 08:14 PM 12/3/2003 -0800, Natalie Jacobs wrote: >>...and anyone >>who's done it will tell you "beating off" isn't really that hard at >>all. > >Is that term even used in England at all? I don't know. I've never jacked off in England. Since Brit-slang is always so different than Americo-slang, I'm sure it means something like "taking your mother for a walk" or "smoking a cigarette" or something like that. On Dogs: "Dog End of a Day Gone By" by Love & Rockets. Did anyone mention that one? OK, next animal. How many songs about trilobites have there been? - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:44:13 -0600 From: "Iosso, Ken" Subject: dogs and grades First of all. I'm very satisfied with the dog suggestions (intrigued by the Pink Floyd/Jethro Tull propensities). As for the grades I don't think they mean Robyn is a "B+" artist since I think that giving an artist a grade based on an arithmetic mean for all their albums doesn't seem accurate. The only artists/bands who could get an A would be ones who produced very few very good albums (Big Star, Nick Drake, the Beatles, Television). It doesn't seem right to penalize people for producing a large body of work. I think instead that we count their best 3 or best 5 albums. That way we get rid of crappy artists (because they've never produced anything A level) but we can still include people like Neil Young, the Rolling Stones, David Bowie, Robyn Hitchcock who's average couldn't be above B+ and in some cases might even be C level. RH is about an A. Which is where I think he belongs. Ken Iosso - -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey [mailto:jenor@uwm.edu] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:24 AM To: Heidi Klum prescribes Nader for correct living! Subject: Re: Most pertinent dog song of all On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Michael R Godwin wrote: > On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 AidMerr@aol.com wrote: > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to be that noone's actually > > mentioned Pink Floyd's "Dogs". I mentioned that one... And on the way here, I heard Neil Young's "F&$*in' Up" (or whatever characters it uses) with these lines: Dogs that lick, and dogs that bite Hounds that howl all through the night Are we through yet? - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::"Shut up, you truculent lout, and let the cute little pixie sing!":: ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:46:26 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V12 #447 On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Devin Lee Ens wrote: > Jeff Dwarf wrote: > >> I'm still waiting to hear why Dark Princess is > >> *obviously* not about masturbation. > > >Because Robyn has frequently referred to his wife > >(have we confirmed they married?), Michele Noach, as > >being the Dark Princess. So, it would stand to reason > >that the song is about her and his feelings about her. > > Now that's the kind of relevant point I was waiting to hear. Right. And the fact that I mentioned this in my first response to you...? > Not conclusive (my example "Karleen" really is about a girl named > Karleen, but it also really is about communism, etc.), but strong. You're looking for a conclusive proof of a negative. Not going to happen. Can someone prove to me conclusively that Veins Of The Queen isn't REALLY about the black struggle in professional sports prior to Jackie Robinson? J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #448 ********************************