From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #447 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, December 3 2003 Volume 12 : Number 447 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: puzzles and dawgs [Jeff Dwarf ] more dogs? [Tom Rodebaugh ] Vogonorator ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: puzzles and dawgs ["Jason R. Thornton" ] re: Let's hear... [Devin Lee Ens ] places named after numbers [Miles Goosens ] Re: puzzles and dawgs [Jeff Dwarf ] re: Let's hear... [Jeff Dwarf ] re: Let's hear... ["Jason R. Thornton" ] RE: Let's hear... ["Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" ] Re: dawgs ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: dawgs [Ken Weingold ] What about the entire Snoop Dogg oeuvre? ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: A Can Of Bees [Aaron Mandel ] re: grading [Eb ] do the dog ["ross taylor" ] re: grading ["Brian" ] re: grading [FSThomas ] RE: grading ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: doggone rugby [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: grading [Caroline Smith ] RE: grading ["FS Thomas" ] SBs mention in an old New Yorker (for Eddie) [bayard ] re: poll [Eb ] RE: more dawg songs ["da9ve stovall" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:52:56 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: puzzles and dawgs "Jason R. Thornton" wrote: > At 05:12 PM 12/3/2003 +0000, Michael R Godwin wrote: > > >"Bitch" by the Rolling Stones? > > Or "KKK Bitch" by Ice Cube? ERm, actually by the Ice-T (or rather, Body Count). ===== "Senator John McCain recently compared the situation in Iraq to the Vietnam era -- to which President Bush replied, 'What does Iraq have in common with drinking beer in Texas?'" -- Craig Kilborn "I don't think the Bush administration lied to us about Iraq. I think it's worse than that. I think they fooled themselves. I think they were conned by Ahmad Chalabi. I think they indulged in wishful thinking to a point of near criminality. I think they decided anyone who didn't agree with them was an enemy, anti-American, disloyal. In other words, I think they're criminally stupid." -- Molly Ivins __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:53:43 -0500 From: Tom Rodebaugh Subject: more dogs? didn't see these: i want a dog-- pet shop boys fall dog bombs the moon-- david bowie cheers, tom ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 12:58:12 -0600 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Vogonorator > From: "Jonathan Fetter" > >> ...and JfS is poetry, ... > > Vogon?;-) Absolutely! And you can create your own solo Robyn Hitchcock LP right here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/hitchhikers/vogonpoetry/lettergen.shtml ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 11:08:00 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: puzzles and dawgs At 10:52 AM 12/3/2003 -0800, Jeff Dwarf wrote: >"Jason R. Thornton" wrote: > > At 05:12 PM 12/3/2003 +0000, Michael R Godwin wrote: > > > > >"Bitch" by the Rolling Stones? > > > > Or "KKK Bitch" by Ice Cube? > >ERm, actually by the Ice-T (or rather, Body Count). Whoops. That's what I meant, of course. I do sometimes get my Ices confused. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:15:59 -0600 From: Devin Lee Ens Subject: re: Let's hear... Tom Clark wrote: Subject: Re: let's hear... >> p.p.s. If anyone could tell me what the heck "I Don't Remember Guilford" is >> about, or throw out a clue, I'd be grateful. I'm lost on that one. Lovely >> recording, tho. >It's obviously about masturbating while cross-dressed during an inner-city >terrorist bombing. I'm still waiting to hear why Dark Princess is *obviously* not about mastrubation. The one good point I heard is that this interpretation would be confused by the "you're further inside me" line, but I think that line is meant to be a surprise--the point where you are thrown into having to look at it another way (and there are two things which RH refers to as being inside, The Moon, in one song, which isn't literal, and woman). Anyway, it's a theory that came up over drinks a few days ago. But until I hear an actual refutation, I'll stick with it. When I write songs, I'm usually aware of every possible interpretation before I let anyone hear it. It doesn't take months, it takes one night of reading and playing the song over and over, changing the odd line. If I see a possible reading and I DON'T change it, then whatever meaning can be found, even if I did not plan it when I started (and I seldom have much of a plan), I consider to be in the song. I usually like at least three levels in something, one literal, usually about some sort of crush I have, one sexual, preferably kinky, and one political. (Example, girl I had a thing for but never got anywhere with left town suddenly and gave me all her stuff, so I started a line, "Karleen, you left a bag for me..." within three hours, I had a song about transvestitism (because I was listening to Moss Elixir twice a day) and communist revolution (because Karleen is fem for Karl, and the colour red came up somewhere along the way, so I went with it)). I see no reason why RH wouldn't work the same way. Now, it's no secret that RH writes mastrubatory songs. "Vibrating" for one, which has nothing coded about it. And the transgendered trend runs through all his stuff, especially the solo work. The only controversy to be had is whether or not Dark Princess is either or both of these types of song in addition to its first level as an ordinary submissive love song, and I still hear no more solid objection to this theory than, "That's just silly." I'm reminded of centuries of Shakespeare scholarship that dismissed huge chunks of his plays as extraneous because they just didn't get the subtexts. As soon as you look for a line of meaning beyond the most superficial, there is not a superfluous scene or comment in the lot. (Gee, why IS Antonio so sad? "I dunno, he just is...what, in love with Bassanio? Don't be silly! Men didn't date men in the renaissance!") I'm also reminded of scholars who wouldn't look too deeply into the sonnets because there was somthing about the bard writing love poetry to a boy that made them very uncomfortable. But since DP is going nowhere, let's bring up some others I'm unclear on. "Alright, Yeah": Nora story? Sounds like a woman leaving her family. Probably obvious enough. "I Am Not Me": every conjecture on this one is wild. Not sure where to start. My least favourite track on Jewels, "Sally Was A Legend", particualrly interesting is the line "I can point to Norway with my fist"--sounds specific, almost political... questo devo ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:39:21 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: places named after numbers At 04:01 PM 12/2/2003 -0800, Rex.Broome wrote: >compare even >that year of the X-Files with '70's shows allegedly set around DC (Wonder >Woman and I think those Bionic Persons shows). But that doesn't mean they >always succeed in making it look like what it's *supposed* to be. Hollywood outdoors shoots have come a long way from those "can't you even *try*?" days of the '70s to be sure. But you can still usually tell it's southern California, especially if you know the area in which the scenes are purportedly set. >>>I also thought the lighting, another long-time strength of THE X-FILES, went >>>all to hell when production moved to SoCal. I guess the key guys were local >>>to the Canadian film industry. > >I kinda hate to admit you're right, since I know people who worked on the >show down here (lighting and scenic folks), but I don't blame them. They >all said that the budget and egos were completely out of control at that >point and nobody knew what they were doing in the least. I'd say the >evidence is strong that they were right. Then next time I'll remember to blame Chris Carter et al rather than the tech folks -- which doesn't bug me at all, since I blame Chris Carter for most of what was wrong with the latter seasons anyway, not to mention his evisceration of MILLENNIUM (and, along with it, the dissolution of his relationship with D. Morgan, G. Morgan, and J. Wong, who were responsible for MILLENNIUM's knockout 2nd season and a lot of my favorite X-FILES episodes). Thanks for the inside scoop. >oddly it was called "Virginie >Occidentale", which I though had a nice classy ring to it. Cool! My mom in particular will love that. >Nearest point that >anyone's ever heard of: the aforementioned site of my birth, Cumberland, >MD I guess you know you're from the sticks when you have to answer "where are you from?" questions with "ever heard of Somewhat Larger Place X?" instead of where you're really from, then, if met with a negative response, move on to progressively larger places. If I'm talking to someone from WV, I'll usually start with "halfway between Bluefield and Welch," or, if they knew state high school sports, "I was in the last graduating class at Northfork High" (still not my actual hometown, but close enough). For most humans, the progression is Bluefield, WV -> Wytheville, VA (pronounced "with-ville" - at the junction of I-77 and I-81 so lots of people go through it) Blacksburg, VA (home of Virginia Tech) -> Roanoke, VA. If they don't recognize Roanoke, the next largest places are too far away to convey anything meaningful about where I'm from, so I just give up. WV fact that might find favor with Fegs: some places in southern WV are actually referred to as numbers, usually where the largest coal mining operations were. In those areas, each hollow housed the "number X" mine, so instead of saying "I live in Gary," its inhabitants would say things like "I live up #9." I always wondered if "Revolution #9" was particularly popular there... "I live in Gary" is not a transgendered reference, at least not in this context. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:43:20 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: puzzles and dawgs "Jason R. Thornton" wrote: > At 10:52 AM 12/3/2003 -0800, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > >"Jason R. Thornton" wrote: > > > Or "KKK Bitch" by Ice Cube? > > > >Erm, actually by Ice-T (or rather, Body Count). > > Whoops. That's what I meant, of course. I do > sometimes get my Ices confused. If you'd said Vanilla Ice, you'd be in trouble. I just hope that Ice Cube gets a role in whatever the fourth Law & Order series is (since Ice-T is a cop on the 2nd). His film career is probably going too well for him to do TV at this point. ===== "Senator John McCain recently compared the situation in Iraq to the Vietnam era -- to which President Bush replied, 'What does Iraq have in common with drinking beer in Texas?'" -- Craig Kilborn "I don't think the Bush administration lied to us about Iraq. I think it's worse than that. I think they fooled themselves. I think they were conned by Ahmad Chalabi. I think they indulged in wishful thinking to a point of near criminality. I think they decided anyone who didn't agree with them was an enemy, anti-American, disloyal. In other words, I think they're criminally stupid." -- Molly Ivins __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:46:52 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: re: Let's hear... Devin Lee Ens wrote: > I'm still waiting to hear why Dark Princess is > *obviously* not about masturbation. Because Robyn has frequently referred to his wife (have we confirmed they married?), Michele Noach, as being the Dark Princess. So, it would stand to reason that the song is about her and his feelings about her. ===== "Senator John McCain recently compared the situation in Iraq to the Vietnam era -- to which President Bush replied, 'What does Iraq have in common with drinking beer in Texas?'" -- Craig Kilborn "I don't think the Bush administration lied to us about Iraq. I think it's worse than that. I think they fooled themselves. I think they were conned by Ahmad Chalabi. I think they indulged in wishful thinking to a point of near criminality. I think they decided anyone who didn't agree with them was an enemy, anti-American, disloyal. In other words, I think they're criminally stupid." -- Molly Ivins __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 11:47:23 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: re: Let's hear... At 01:15 PM 12/3/2003 -0600, Devin Lee Ens wrote: >I'm still waiting to hear why Dark Princess is *obviously* not about >mastrubation. I just re-read the lyrics, and it's obviously, if anything, just a love song. In fact, I can't find a single thing about it that even remotely suggests a masturbatory subtext, especially when verses are looked at as a whole rather than lines taken out of context. The only thing that even comes close is the "hard to beat" bit, but of course, this is a fairly common phrase used quite often without referring to solo sex - and anyone who's done it will tell you "beating off" isn't really that hard at all. Saying that this line implies masturbation is a Mr. Fantastic level stretch, at best. The first verse seems to be somewhat sexual, however, but it's quite apparent it's about a male-female sexual relationship, not a solitary, self-pleasuring one. >The one good point I heard is that this interpretation would be >confused by the "you're further inside me" line, but I think that line is >meant >to be a surprise-- Well, if you really WANTED to defend the masturbation thesis, you could say that this line refers to the "female image" inside the speaker's mind about which the singer is fantasizing whilst peeling the prawn. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:52:28 -0800 From: "Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" Subject: RE: Let's hear... Devin wrote: > I'm still waiting to hear why Dark Princess is *obviously* not about > mastrubation. It is obviously not about masturbation because it obviously about a woman and the singer's relationship with and feelings for that woman. For starters the song's title welcomes a literal interpretation that the song is about a woman. The rest of the lyrics fall neatly in line with that and are a series of reminiscences and reflects on the woman. To say it is about masturbation is to impose a metaphor on the song. And while your argument for that is clever, there is nothing in the song that clearly is about masturbation just things that could be construed that way. Additionally, Robyn has said in interviews the song is about his wife Michele and has dedicated the song to her in concert. And that pretty much settles it for me. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:54:02 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: A Can Of Bees Jonathan Fetter wrote: > H would be for "helpless" I would think. Hopeless works better. > > I once came across an A-H scale. F was fail, G was > > bad fail, and H was > > "Don't even think about resitting this topic". ===== "Senator John McCain recently compared the situation in Iraq to the Vietnam era -- to which President Bush replied, 'What does Iraq have in common with drinking beer in Texas?'" -- Craig Kilborn "I don't think the Bush administration lied to us about Iraq. I think it's worse than that. I think they fooled themselves. I think they were conned by Ahmad Chalabi. I think they indulged in wishful thinking to a point of near criminality. I think they decided anyone who didn't agree with them was an enemy, anti-American, disloyal. In other words, I think they're criminally stupid." -- Molly Ivins __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:57:33 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: dawgs Ken I wrote: > > I'm intrigued by the Be Good Tanya's Dogsong 2. > Sounds like just the thing > though I can't track down the lyrics. The album [Chinatown] is relatively new, and the folkies who like 'em don't seem to be into transcribing lyrics. > And I've never heard of the Be Good > Tanyas. came out of the BC tree-planting camps, and are pretty much at the vanguard of the new folk movement. Recently toured with Erin McKeown (which would've been a fine show, but I missed it). Signed to Nettwerk, who seem to be closely allied to Bongobeat, who released Mr Rew's most recent work. Chinatown has been on repeat play for the last couple of months in our house. It's pretty good, even if they do massacre "Reuben's Train". Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:16:09 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: dawgs Sorry if this has been mentioned, but there's also Dog On Fire from Bob Mould, which is the Daily Show theme song. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:02:39 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: What about the entire Snoop Dogg oeuvre? Miles: >>But as I thought about it, I realized that there's little to no correlation between >>the album I first discovered and which one ended up being my favorite. Deja vu thread... I seem to remember this leading directly to me positing the "American Music Club Theorem" which maintains that one favors the first album purchased only when the artist in question is remarkably consistent in both quality and general sound. Otherwise all bets are off. - --- Hey, neat, a poll! I was the 32nd person to take it... wow, there are still 32 of us? - --- Hey, neat, Natalie bought two records I already have. The Scud Mountain Boys never really caught fire with me, though, so I'm still eyeing the Pernice Bros. skeptically. Time will tell. - --- Hey, JeFFrey: >I suspect that there are more dog songs than songs for any other >animal... I'm gonna guess "horse". Lots of old ballads about horses. In the same folk/cowboy/cornpone idioms as a lot of the dog songs, but horses seem to have the edge. Maybe because they do more exciting stuff or interact more directly with their human partners. Because truly, by the time you get to the fourth verse of your song about your dog, you're more or less honor bound to bring up questionable things he's eaten or licked. - --- James: >>Die like a dog - Curve There's a Fish Karma song with this title, too, as well as a song about being haunted by the ghost of a dog (which I think is just called "A Dream" or something). And I'm not proud of it but I happen to know Edie Brickell's album "Ghost of a Dog" does contain a title track. >>Dog whelk - Able Tasmans That's just odd. Where's the supernova? (nb. 2nd Douglas Adams reference today) Also I just recently heard some old music-hall style piece called "Mad Dogs and Englishmen" used to bookend some piece on NPR which must've had either to do with mad dogs or Englishmen. No idea who wrote or performed it. Oh, and let's give "Freeze" an honorable mention as a fegdog song. Dog dig a dog dig a dog dig a dog, - -Rex, quite sure that there must be at least a few songs about dogs who share his name ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:13:45 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: another dog "Dixie the Tiny Dog" by Peter Himmelman, though I think you'd have to find a recording of a radio appearance or live show to hear it. The dude's incredibly serious on every song on every one of his albums (at least all the ones I have), but live, he's a riot -- "Disgruntled Postal Worker" (from the first ONXRT disc) and "Dixie the Tiny Dog" just *kill.* later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:48:23 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: A Can Of Bees On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Maximilian Lang wrote: > I have yet to get around to my rating of Robyn related albums. I have > noticed people seem to look down on A Can Of Bees compared to other > Robyn material, am I the only one who rates this as their favorite disc > or just higher than UM? Was wondering that myself (so I guess neither of us is alone). I'm glad that Robyn made his career more from the style of Underwater Moonlight than A Can Of Bees, but as albums go I tend to prefer the more herky-jerky ones, like ACAB and Queen Elvis. a ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:56:05 -0800 From: Eb Subject: re: grading Grading the RH albums is a bit hackneyed, so why not just grade the other gradings instead? Michael Bachman: A- Underrates Respect and Globe of Frogs. Rex Broome: B+/A- Overrates the Mosses, Nextdoorland. Underrates Fegmania. Miles Goosens: B+ Underrates Can of Bees and the Invisibles. Overrates Gotta Let This Hen Out!, Groovy Decoy, Globe of Frogs, Perspex Island. Jeff Dwarf: B Unduly unkind to Globe of Frogs, Gotta Let This Hen Out!, Fegmania and You & Oblivion. Too kind to Moss Elixir. James Dignan: B Horribly underrates Can of Bees and the Invisibles. Likes Queen Elvis more than A Globe of Frogs. Has never bought a self-released Hitchcock disc. Brian : B Loads of overrating. Sebastian Hagedorn: B/B- Nukes Luxor and Groovy Decay, underrates Can of Bees and Invisible Hits (surprisingly common?) along with Element of Light, Respect and Fegmania. Devin Lee Ens: B- Hasn't bought Invisible Hits. Jumps between hyperboles, swooning for Jewels for Sophia and Moss Elixir and while slamming Groovy Decay, Globe of Frogs and Perspex Island as unworthy of even being released. Fegmania and Element of Light also get a raw deal. Rates the compilations, which is just a tad gauche. Tsk. Charlotte Tupman: B- If I was attacked for saying RH is a B+ artist, Charlotte *really* should be attacked, because she's rating him a solid B at best. ;) Underrates numerous albums, including Respect, Invisible Hits, Groovy Decay, Globe of Frogs, Jewels for Sophia and Perspex Island. Yet...mildly overenthused about the Soft Boys reunion, even to the point of switching her email address accordingly. Feglist: B, for still continuing to dodge in-depth discussions of Richard Harris' album catalog. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:20:04 -0500 From: "ross taylor" Subject: do the dog I seem to remember this from before, involving Zappa's "Stinkfoot" & "Wey Wey Up a Hole" I'll add: "How Much is That Doggie in the Window" -- Pattie Page "Police Dog Blues" -- Blind Blake "I Never Met a Dog That Took to Me" -- Crabby Appleton "Move It on Over" -- Hank Williams "Animal Language" -- Lou Reed "Dirty Love" -- Zappa/Mothers ("not a speck of cereal!") "Dogs" -- Who "Dogs Pt. 2" -- Who (real Moonie workout!) "If Dogs Run Free" -- anyone else think Dylan sometimes sounds like Bullwinkle Moose? and I used to love to play "Gimmie Back My Wig" by Houndog Taylor Ross Taylor now re-reading stories from _The Barking Man_ by Madison Smart Bell Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 14:30:34 -0800 From: "Brian" Subject: re: grading "Eb" said: > Grading the RH albums is a bit hackneyed, so why not just grade the > other gradings instead? Dude, you have *way* too much time on your hands! ;) Quite entertaining though... - -Nuppy - -- Brian nightshadecat@mailbolt.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:36:04 -0500 From: FSThomas Subject: re: grading True to form (and the discussions of late), the poll is showing Mr. Hitchcock to be a solid B+ student. http://www.ochremedia.com/Robyn_Poll - -ferris. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:39:20 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: grading Eb scribed: >Feglist: B, for still continuing to dodge in-depth discussions of >Richard Harris' album catalog. I still have my Tramp Shining LP in my collection. I believe I got it for my 16th birthday, 01-21-69. Lucinda Williams turned 16 five days after I did on 01-26-69. I used to listen to it a lot in my teens, but have yet to get it on CD. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:52:14 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: doggone rugby Ken sez: >Special thanks to James for his wonderful and nearly exhaustive list. Sorry >about NZ in the rugby world cup. My wife is from England so she was happy >with the eventual result. sigh again. Ah well, I was born in England, so it's not too bad as far as I'm concerned. And at least the Aussies didn't win. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:57:11 -0500 From: Caroline Smith Subject: Re: grading On Dec 3, 2003, at 5:36 PM, FSThomas wrote: > True to form (and the discussions of late), the poll is showing Mr. > Hitchcock to be a solid B+ student. > > http://www.ochremedia.com/Robyn_Poll > this is ridiculous. though it does make me wonder how mr. hitchcock fared as a student. anybody know? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:15:40 -0500 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: RE: grading > this is ridiculous. Ridiculous *and* purely gloriously un-scientific. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:29:35 -0800 (PST) From: bayard Subject: SBs mention in an old New Yorker (for Eddie) Found this in the October 28, 2002 issue of the New Yorker i was reading while waiting for one Chris G. to get his broken bones looked at. Mr H may be eccentric, but at least he's charmingly so! BOWERY BALLROOM 6 Delancey St. (533-2111)- Oct 25: Crazy, industrial-strength rockabilly with the Reverend Horton Heat. Oct 26-27: The Soft Boys date back to the cantankerous birth of British punk, but their charmingly eccentric front man, Robyn Hitchcock, was more likely to sing about Anglepoise lamps than about anarchy. The willfully unfashionable group - which filtered the psychedelic sensibilities of early Pink Floyd and the jangle of the Byrds through the manic energy of the times - was back on the road last year after a twenty-year hiatus to celebrate the rerelease of their seminal album "Underwater Moonlight." They return yet again with songs from their brand-new album, "Nextdoorland." hee hee - they way they tell it, they celebrated the release of Underwater Moonlight by breaking up for 20 years :) Speaking of old information stores, would anyone be interested in taking over the data entry for the database at www.jh3.com/robyn/base ? Assuming that's ok with JH3, of course... =b - -- "Not knowing anything doesn't mean one can't be in charge of something." - overheard at work ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:52:41 -0800 From: Eb Subject: re: poll I just glanced at the album poll on the Web (and tossed in my own ratings), and I must say that my opinions are very, very similar to the consensus. Everyone who ever attacked me for the "B+" comment needs to send me a gift basket. ;P Not counting Luxor/Robyn Sings (hey, throw those in the basket too...thanks), my own grades agreed with 13 out of 23 results. And the other 10 votes were all off by a half-grade: eight which I rated a half-grade lower than the consensus, two which I rated a half-grade higher. (And really, I easily could have gone B+ on Black Snake Diamond Role -- I would need to play the album again to have a firm opinion). Not quite sure I understand the grading system, though...92% is a B+? Tough curve! Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:27:43 -0800 From: "da9ve stovall" Subject: RE: more dawg songs >Etc. etc. etc. Mike Keneally has a number of songs about dogs, and is even, in his own words, working out his thematic fixation on dogs on his upcoming album entitled _Dog_. See www.keneally.com for info. Anyway, existing dog songs in the Keneally repertoire: Spearmint Pup Cardboard Dog TRANQUILLADO (his all-caps, not mine) Bober (actually, this'll be on the new album, but I've heard it live a few times already, frankly, one of my least favorite MK songs) What Happened to the Dogs (this one's a real shaggy-dog sci-fi adventure tale) ...and he's done Martha My Dear live The Rheostatics - Palomar Zappa - "Dog Breath, in the Year of the Plague," "Dog Breath Variations" Pere Ubu - All the Dogs Are Barking Butthole Surfers - Barking Dogs Steeleye Span - Dogs and Ferrets Jethro Tull - Dogs in the Midwinter Nikki Sudden - "Dog Latin" and "Dog Rose" Sid Vicious' cover of I Wanna Be Your Dog Carl Perkins - Bird Dog (and the obvious version of Hound Dog) Dr. John - How Come My Dog Don't Bark (When You Come Around) Little Feat - Day Time Dog Races Lightnin' Hopkins - Hear My Black Dog Bark Caravan - Dog, the Dog, He's at It Again Tom Paxton (performed) - My Dog's Bigger Than Your Dog Bob Marley: Maga Dog Skanky Dog Boney Dog (all one a compilation somewhere) da9ve ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #447 ********************************