From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #439 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, November 28 2003 Volume 12 : Number 439 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Happy Thanksgiving from Kansan [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Happy Thanksgiving from Kansan ["Grunty" ] Re: Let's hear it for the artist [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Let's hear it for the artist [Eb ] Re: Let's hear it for the artist [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Let's hear it for the artist [Eb ] Re: Let's hear it for the artist [Jeff Dwarf ] Diagnosing the disease [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:50:12 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving from Kansan > Sister Iris (Irina), who represents my wife Dina, is played by the >actress Amy Madigan: > > maDIgAN I thought Sister Iris represented Kansan: Madigan = MAD AGAIN James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:34:45 -0500 From: "Grunty" Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving from Kansan very interesting...............well, i'm a Carnivale freak anyway, so i will be watching. Grunty gruntydawarthawg@verizon.net > [Boy, that "Madigan = Dina" claim is a ludicrous stretch, even by > *Kansan's* standards] > > HBO will repeat "Carnivale" episodes 9-11 tomorrow, Friday, November 28, > starting at 9 pm ET. This is in preparation for the first season's final > episode (No. 12), that will be presented this Sunday. > > "Carnivale" is a coded message about Our Lady Heidi Klum and me, Nick > Kaffes, and our friends and families. > > In the opening sequence of "Carnivale" a young girl is shown followed by > the face of an Archangel on a Tarot card. The girl and the Archangel have very > similar faces and both of them represent Victoria's Secret Archangel Heidi. > > My last name, Kaffes, means "coffee" in Greek and also "brown", the color > of coffee. The two main characters of "Carnivale" are Ben Hawkins, played by > NICK Stahl, and Brother Justin, played by Clancy BROWN, and both of them > represent me, Nick Kaffes, i.e., NICK BROWN, different aspects of my > personality. > > Brother Justin is named after St. Justin, whose feast day is June 1, > Victorious Heidi's birthday. > > In a famous dream sequence in episode No. 2 both Ben and Brother Justin > meet at a cafe, along with their predecessors, Scudder and the Russian soldier: > > CAFE: coffee shop. I.e., all these avatars are contained within me, > Nick Kaffes (Coffee). > > The waitress serves them coffee and says: > > "Every prophet in his house". I.e., all four avatars are contained > within me. > > Brother Justin's sister, Sister Iris, lives with him and represents my > wife Dina. > > The childhood names of Sister Iris and Brother Justin were Irina and > Alexi, a reference to our younger daughter Irenie Alexia. > > Our older daughter Caterina Cleopatra is represented by the new character > Catalina. "Caterina" and "Catalina" are versions of the same name, > "Catherine". St. Catherine was from Alexandria, Egypt, where Cleopatra had > reigned as the last Pharaoh. > > The conjoint twins of "Carnivale", Alexandria and Caladonia, refer to > Egypt and Celtic Scotland (Caledonia), respectively. This is to show that > "Carnivale" is based on the Egyptian-Greek magic of Alexandria and the Druid > magic of Celtic Caledonia. > > Sister Iris (Irina), who represents my wife Dina, is played by the > actress Amy Madigan: > > maDIgAN > > DINA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:12:54 -0600 From: Devin Lee Ens Subject: Let's hear it for the artist I went down to Seattle the other week for my first ever Robyn Hitchcock gig. It was also my second ever excursion into the States. I liked Seattle, similar to Vancouver, but with more people, more concrete, less reserve and less grass. Actually, trying to define the Canadian identity, I found myself feeling very British when surrounded by Americans. I felt I had far more in common with the man on stage than anyone around me. Anyway, the show was excellent, my only disappointment is that he played nothing from Moss Elixir or Jewels for Sophia, which I assert are his finest albums. ME was in the lead for a long time (challenged only by Eye, but Eye am not ME), but when I started picking apart the lyrics on Jewels, I realised that the album represents a new level of poetic achievement for the artist. Maybe it's just the novelty of hearing him get so political on the first four songs (while maintaining his integrety and weaving his metaphors--past attempts didn't work so well: "Ruling Class" is okay, but lightweight, and "Legalised Murder" may be the most godawful thing I've ever heard the man record). Then there's JforS itself which seems to be a song about Robyn's method of songwriting ("never make a bad one out of all the stuff I weave"--note "Jewels for Sophia" by a loose synonymity translates to "Pearls of Wisdom"). Anyways, while musing on how much I love RH, and trying to figure out how to get my Philosophy and English profs back in Saskatoon into him, I made a silly little list grading each of his albums. It is meant to be a guide to keep people from picking up, say, the A&M "Greatest Hits" album and dismissing RH as a novelty act. I share it here to be provocative, as I've noticed some people referring to Globe of Frogs as a classic and dimissing Luxor, and I'm just amazed... a question mark indicates I do not have the album, and cannot rate it as a whole. A Can of Bees B Underwater Moonlight A Invisible Hits ? Black Snake Diamond Role B Groovy Decay F I Often Dream of Trains A+ Fegmania! C Element of Light B Gotta Let This Hen Out! C You & Oblivion A Invisible Hitchcock B A Globe of Frogs D Queen Elvis ? (I'm wary of this one--I like Madonna of the Wasps, and Wax Doll is okay, but "One Long Pair of Eyes"--what was he thinking!?) Eye A+ Perspex Island F (boring, utterly boring--stupid executive decision of 1990-91: "Hey, let's try to make Robyn Hitchcock mainstream! Get on the horn to Michael Stipe...") Respect A Moss Elixir A+ Mossy Liquor ? Jewels for Sophia A+ A Star for Bram ? (I SO HAVE TO GET A COPY OF THIS!) Luxor B The Soft Boys 1976-1981 (Rykodisc) A Uncorrected Personality Traits (Rhino) C RH & The Egyptians Greatest Hits (A&M) F- (whoever got the idea to put "One Long Pair of Eyes" and "Legalised Murder" on a greatest hits album should be slapped silly with a salmon, as should whoever thought to promote a cult artist with a "Greatest Hits" package in the first place!) All for now, comment encouraged, devo provocitus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:41:37 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Let's hear it for the artist - -- Devin Lee Ens is rumored to have mumbled on Freitag, 28. November 2003 12:12 Uhr -0600 regarding Let's hear it for the artist: > A Can of Bees B C > Underwater Moonlight A A > Invisible Hits ? C > Black Snake Diamond Role B B > Groovy Decay F E (at least it has 52 Stations and St. Petersburg) > I Often Dream of Trains A+ A+ > Fegmania! C C > Element of Light B B > Gotta Let This Hen Out! C B (my first ever Robyn Hitchcock CD) > You & Oblivion A B > Invisible Hitchcock B B > A Globe of Frogs D B Chinese Bone is still one of my favorites - I'm a sucker for jangly guitars > Queen Elvis ? (I'm wary of this one--I like Madonna of the > Wasps, and Wax Doll is okay, but "One Long Pair of Eyes"--what was he > thinking!?) B As you can see, I like the A&M years! > Eye A+ A > Perspex Island F (boring, utterly boring--stupid executive > decision of 1990-91: "Hey, let's try to make Robyn Hitchcock mainstream! > Get on the horn to Michael Stipe...") B I used to *love* it, but it sounds dated now ... but what's wrong with a great pop album? > Respect A C > Moss Elixir A+ A > Mossy Liquor ? B, IIRC. Haven't listened to it in years ... > Jewels for Sophia A+ B > A Star for Bram ? (I SO HAVE TO GET A COPY OF THIS!) B > Luxor B F OK, I've listened to it only two or three times, but to me Luxor is utterly boring! What a disappointment ... Cheers, Sebastian - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:27:57 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Let's hear it for the artist A Can of Bees B- Underwater Moonlight A+ Invisible Hits A- Black Snake Diamond Role B+ Groovy Dec[a/o]y C- [songs B; production F] I Often Dream of Trains A+ Fegmania! B- Element of Light B+ Gotta Let This Hen Out! C+ Invisible Hitchcock B+ A Globe of Frogs C+ Queen Elvis B+ Eye A Perspex Island B- Respect B+ You & Oblivion D Moss Elixir A Mossy Liquor B Storefront Hitchcock B Jewels for Sophia B A Star for Bram C+ Nextdoorland B+ Side Three B Luxor B- ===== "Senator John McCain recently compared the situation in Iraq to the Vietnam era -- to which President Bush replied, 'What does Iraq have in common with drinking beer in Texas?'" -- Craig Kilborn "I don't think the Bush administration lied to us about Iraq. I think it's worse than that. I think they fooled themselves. I think they were conned by Ahmad Chalabi. I think they indulged in wishful thinking to a point of near criminality. I think they decided anyone who didn't agree with them was an enemy, anti-American, disloyal. In other words, I think they're criminally stupid." -- Molly Ivins __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:24:47 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Let's hear it for the artist DEVIN LEE ENS wrote: >Invisible Hits ? You *so* have to get a copy of this, before you *so* get a copy of A Star for Bram. >A Globe of Frogs D >Queen Elvis ? (I'm wary of this one--I like Madonna of the Wasps, >and Wax Doll is okay, but "One Long Pair of Eyes"--what was he thinking!?) Since you rate Globe a D, you have good reason to be wary of Queen Elvis. Something about the glorious phonetics of this new subscriber name...I see it and instantly want to make anagrams, or see how many words I can get out of the letters...must resist.... Eb now addicted to: http://download.com.com/3000-2292-10238418.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:15:57 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Let's hear it for the artist - -- Eb is rumored to have mumbled on Freitag, 28. November 2003 12:24 Uhr -0800 regarding Re: Let's hear it for the artist: > now addicted to: http://download.com.com/3000-2292-10238418.html Cool! I used to love Oxyd, the game it's based on. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:19:22 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Let's hear it for the artist I'd be curious to learn which was your first RH album. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:22:19 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Let's hear it for the artist >I'd be curious to learn which was your first RH album. A Tramp Shining. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 14:12:22 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Let's hear it for the artist Eb wrote: > >I'd be curious to learn which was your first RH > album. > > A Tramp Shining. Perspex Island. ===== "Senator John McCain recently compared the situation in Iraq to the Vietnam era -- to which President Bush replied, 'What does Iraq have in common with drinking beer in Texas?'" -- Craig Kilborn "I don't think the Bush administration lied to us about Iraq. I think it's worse than that. I think they fooled themselves. I think they were conned by Ahmad Chalabi. I think they indulged in wishful thinking to a point of near criminality. I think they decided anyone who didn't agree with them was an enemy, anti-American, disloyal. In other words, I think they're criminally stupid." -- Molly Ivins __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:31:53 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Diagnosing the disease Regarding the whole Avalon-derangement issue...I found the below quotes on the Web. Anyone have any more? [from a self-written Hitchcock "timeline," gauging his activities from year to year] 1982: Second solo album Groovy Decay. Do even less. Drink heavily and listen to Avalon by Roxy Music in the wet Sussex twilight. Write lyrics for Captain Sensible. - ----------- [Q&A extract] FE: You don't think there are any quintessential albums that have come out in the last ve years that you rave about in the same way as those String Band records, say? Robyn: Oh no. The last thing I really liked was Avalon by Roxy Music. I played that to death - it hasn't got the same kind of buzz that Blonde on Blonde or The 5000 Spirits or Safe as Milk had. But then, it's a different era and written by some thirty-eight year old, not some blossoming twenty-one year old. [Note: This is from the Fegmania.org site...Woj might wanna fix that typo about "the last ve years"] - ----------- [A different Q&A] You were talking earlier about your idea of recording an acoustic version of the Roxy Music album 'Avalon'. My obsession with Avalon, the last Roxy Music album, spurred my interest in production, but lately I've begun to wonder what the whole thing would sound like on an acoustic guitar with occasional piano in the background. A great song doesn't need dressing up. Well-produced records always get played in clothes shops; in fact I heard 'So You Think You're In Love' in just such surroundings when I was in the States. Bryan Ferry's stuff was simultaneously sophisticated and tacky. I've sung 'More Than This' for some time as an encore - I'd love to hear him do 'Madonna Of The Wasps'. At the same time I wouldn't criticise a record for being "radio friendly". That's the way songs get heard. - ----------- [Ditto] U: Do you have any favorite albums where you like the whole thing, cover artwork and all the songs without an exception... R: ...I think "Fegmania" is pretty good. U: From other bands. R: From other people, oh. Well, I don't know, I always thought "Highway 61" was good. "Avalon" by Roxy Music, I don't know, packaging, I mean packaging got more exciting, at one point the artwork got more exciting than the music. Generally, if I like an album, the artwork's good. I like most of the tracks on the first Belly album. Actually the artwork's OK, it's a very 4AD sort of stuff, very solarized. I don't know, really. (looking at the Knust's show listing for the next month or so) Wow, ex-Fischer-Z! Robyn Hitchcock. Oh, Bob Neuwirth. Victoria Williams! Barbara Manning. Wow, I met her. She's living in San Francisco. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #439 ********************************