From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #438 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, November 27 2003 Volume 12 : Number 438 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Hitchcock, Largo 11/25 [Tom Clark ] snail ["Brian" ] Re: Hitchcock, Largo 11/25 [Capuchin ] RE: fegmaniax-digest V12 #437 ["Rex.Broome" ] RE: Stonecore [Eb ] the holly and the ivy [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Hitchcock, Largo 11/25 ["Maximilian Lang" ] Blonde on Blonde ["Matt Sewell" ] Re: the holly and the ivy ["Matt Sewell" ] Re: Blonde on Blonde [Carrie Galbraith ] More Snail gigs ["Charlotte Tupman" ] Happy Thanksgiving from Kansan [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:17:13 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Hitchcock, Largo 11/25 on 11/26/03 8:47 AM, Capuchin at capuchin@bitmine.net wrote: > OK, I should put aside the Tewsian hyperbole and just say that I think > he's really hilarious, but not as much in a "comedy God" kind of way like > one might think of an early Richard Pryor or something... No, Paul's more > like that friend of yours that's just really funny and weird and a bit > bitter and also, somehow, very sweet. You want him to come to your party, > not entertain. You know, that's exactly how I would describe you! Thompkins was also a regular on Bill Maher's HBO show for the first half of the season. Now I guess Bill doesn't have time for him anymore, nor the "performance" segment which included some great stuff like Bob Odenkirk's "God" routine and Jerry Minor's hilarious "Somebody's Fuckin' My Lady" song. I suppose Bill wants more of Bill. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:15:40 -0800 From: "Brian" Subject: snail New snail (Matthew Seligman's band) album is out for those of you who keep track of such things. I got it and I think it's the best of the 3. They do an excellent remake of "war" and the Beastie Boy's "fight for your right!" Lots of trippy production through out the disc and 4 videos for good measure. Oh, and you get to hear Matthew sing on a few tracks. http://www.snailmusic.fsnet.co.uk/ - -Nuppy - -- Brian nightshadecat@mailbolt.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:48:52 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Hitchcock, Largo 11/25 On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Tom Clark wrote: > You know, that's exactly how I would describe you! You're so sweet. I think I'm gonna cry in my turkey (which I'm eating alone tomorrow, by the way... shitty circumstances lead to shittier circumstances). > Thompkins was also a regular on Bill Maher's HBO show for the first half > of the season. Didn't know that... wish I'd seen it. > great stuff like Bob Odenkirk's "God" routine Oh, dear lord... is this Bob doing the book on tape recording for "God: My Life In The Fast Lane read by me, God" in the personae of Bob Evans? That is some of the funniest shit you ever did see. "All knowing? Yeah, but I'm no know-it-all. Have I done things I ain't so proud of? You know it. Is there anything of which you're particularly proud? Well sure, one thing: My son. Jesus, you're tops and you teach me new things every day." And the one that may very well be in Bob Evans' autobiography, "Was I right? Oh, man, I was worse than right... I was wrong." Yeah, reciting other people's comedy is no funnier on a mailing list than it is in person. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:59:55 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V12 #437 JeFFrey: >> Except for Blonde on Blonde, which for my money is about >>one-quarter filler, Hmmm, do you just really not like "Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands?" No, I see what you mean but that for me is one of those records where even the filler is where it should be... in other words, I don't think it would be improved by being leaner, like a normal record. Just me, though >>those are all indisputably great albums...but I can't say >>they're the ten best ever. Nah, pretty stodgy, it's true. But consensus gets rougher as the years become more recent. I think many such theoretical lists would include stuff like "Daydream Nation" and "Surfer Rosa", which would leave the majority of people wondering what happened to their Pink albums, or Rage Against the Machine. Eb already kinda said that, I see now... sorry. Damn. I was actually at home and asleep for the majority of that show last night. Ah, well. I suppose I am not experienced. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:06:48 -0800 From: Elizabeth Brion Subject: Re: Hitchcock, Largo 11/25 On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, at 08:47 AM, Capuchin wrote: > Oh, shit! Did you get to see Paul F. Tompkins? He's one of the > funniest > men alive! Golly, I love his stuff. He headlines at Largo once every month... well worth seeing if you ever have the chance. I'd agree that he's one of the funniest men alive; I have also elevated him to the position of Personal Guru since he inadvertently cured me of a recurring nightmare I'd been having for 20-odd years through the magic of stand-up. (Long story, and less interesting than its summary, as dream stories generally are.) > No, Paul's more > like that friend of yours that's just really funny and weird and a bit > bitter and also, somehow, very sweet. You want him to come to your > party, > not entertain. Full disclosure: He *is* that friend of mine. And a fine party guest as well; he RSVPs and is punctual and everything. I'm overcoming my general disinclination to pimp for people I know (oh, not that I've never done it, so stop right there with your Googling, but I've had to overcome said disinclination every damn time) because if you have any interest in, you know, laughing, you should check this guy out. He's also a mighty fine crooner. E ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:21:44 -0800 From: Eb Subject: RE: Stonecore >Nah, pretty stodgy, it's true. That Rolling Stone list may be stodgy, but I know this much: If Pitchfork did their "hip" version of a greatest-500 list, I would howl at it about five times more than the RS list. Gawd, can you imagine what a horror that list would be? The RS list includes about 200 albums which are "special" in some way to me, and that's not a bad tally at all. Speaking of indie ugliness.... KINDERCORE RECORDS FOUNDERS FILE SUIT AGAINST THE TELEGRAPH COMPANY, I.D.E.A. INC. Kindercore Records founders Daniel Geller and Ryan Lewis today filed a lawsuit against I.D.E.A. (International Development of Entertainment Alliances), also known as The Telegraph Company, Kindercore General Manager Jerod Gunsberg and I.D.E.A. CEO Stanley Hartman for breach of contract, slander, libel, and a host of other infractions. (Supreme County of The State of New York, County of New York Index No. 03603716) A strategic partnership formed in 2001 between the Kindercore label and Telegraph was intended to strengthen the label's administration and further the aesthetic and ideals that Geller and Lewis had established. The partnership quickly devolved over the 18 months that the relationship existed, culminating in the recent announcement that Kindercore was folding. Geller states, "We were as surprised as anyone on November 12th to learn that Kindercore would be closing. We were also surprised on November 14th to find out the label was not closed and would now be run by Stan Harman who had previously stated to us that he wanted nothing to do with the creative side of running a record label". In the beginning, Geller and Lewis expected that their partnership with Telegraph would allow them to continue guiding the artistic direction of Kindercore while also allowing more time for them to work on their own music. Geller and Lewis perform in bands on the Kindercore label - I Am The World Trade Center and The Agenda respectively. Lewis says, "We're artists at heart and have always been about the music. We saw this partnership as a chance to keep the label going in the same artistic direction that we had established and to also uphold our commitments to our artists." Instead, after the agreements were signed, Geller and Lewis began to see their roles at the label rapidly diminish, a situation that came to a head when Kindercore signed two bands that Geller and Lewis had passed on (in one case) and had never even heard (in the other). Compounding this lack of control over their own company, Geller and Lewis' own bands were then dropped from the label, a curious move considering that I Am The World Trade Center is the second biggest selling act on Kindercore. "Since being in bands on the roster was essentially the last real connection we had with the label we started, we had no other choice but to await further news on the future of Kindercore", Geller says. "At this point, we' re very concerned for the bands that are still associated with Kindercore." Lewis elaborates, stating that he and Geller are doing "everything we can to bring a quick resolution to this situation. Bringing this legal action was the last thing we wanted to do, but we felt it was the only thing we could do to help the friends and artists who had faith in us when we entered into this arrangement with Telegraph." Quinn Heraty, of the law firm Heraty Hall, is representing the plaintiffs. A legal fund has been established to help offset the costs associated with furthering this action. Please visit www.heratyhall.com/kindercore for more information on how to contribute. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:23:26 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: the holly and the ivy > the pagan thing you refer to is perhaps Samhain (pron. Sowen), which is > early Nov, Christianised as All Saints and All Souls day (my b'day, as > it goes).Next pagan festival, AFAIK, is the Winter Solstice, followed by > Yule... erm... the solstice IS Yule. Samhain, Yule, next would be Imbolc at the beginning of February. Oh, and "Christianised as All Saints.. etc", you can add that the end of the traditional Samhain festivities was the burning of an effigy on a bonfire about a week later (i.e., around November 5th). James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:09:43 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: Hitchcock, Largo 11/25 >From: Capuchin >Subject: Re: Hitchcock, Largo 11/25 >Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:47:24 -0800 (PST) >Oh, shit! Did you get to see Paul F. Tompkins? He's one of the funniest >men alive! Golly, I love his stuff. I agree with everything everyone here has said about him. I saw him open and then supply between song banter for Aimee Mann and Michael Penn. He spent most of his slot just talking about when he used to get piss drunk in Philly(where he is from...YOUGH PHILLY). I don't think the crowd liked his routine that much. He did a bit about electric cars and made a reference to Ed Begley Jr., it made me laugh riotously....I was in the front row and the only one laughing. He duly noted that "hey, someone knows about Ed Begely's electric car".....blush. He is also featured, in a bit part, on the Tenacious D DVD. Oh, Mr. show? Brilliant. Max _________________________________________________________________ online games and music with a high-speed Internet connection! Prices start at less than $1 a day average. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:28:13 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Blonde on Blonde I used to think BoB wasn't all it's cracked up to be, having heard it a few times a long time ago and having heard all the songs a lot over the years, but I listened to it all the way through the other week and it just blew me away. Just Like A Woman, though, I've never liked and I'm sure, never will... not even the bloke I saw a couple of years ago who rendered it as Just Like Paul Newman. Cheers Matt >From: "Rex.Broome" > >JeFFrey: > >> Except for Blonde on Blonde, which for my money is about > >>one-quarter filler, > >Hmmm, do you just really not like "Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands?" > >No, I see what you mean but that for me is one of those records where even the filler is where it should be... in other words, I don't think it would be improved by being leaner, like a normal record. Just me, though > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Protect your PC from e-mail viruses. Get MSN 8 today. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:33:36 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: the holly and the ivy Yes of course - I separated them because obv. the Soltice is on a different day to Christmas... bleddy confusing christian festivals... and yes, of course, I'd completely forgotten to remember remember the fifth of November... Imbolc as you so rightly point out, is the next one, and Chrissy's birthday to boot! Cheers Matt >From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) > > > the pagan thing you refer to is perhaps Samhain (pron. Sowen), which is > > early Nov, Christianised as All Saints and All Souls day (my b'day, as > > it goes).Next pagan festival, AFAIK, is the Winter Solstice, followed by > > Yule... > >erm... the solstice IS Yule. Samhain, Yule, next would be Imbolc at the >beginning of February. Oh, and "Christianised as All Saints.. etc", you can >add that the end of the traditional Samhain festivities was the burning of >an effigy on a bonfire about a week later (i.e., around November 5th). > >James > > James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand > -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- > =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. > -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- > .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Half price modem, FREE connection and one month FREE - click here to sign up to BT Broadband. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:31:04 +0100 (GMT+01:00) From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: Blonde on Blonde - -----Original Message----- From: Matt Sewell I used to think BoB wasn't all it's cracked up to be, having heard it a few times a long time ago and having heard all the songs a lot over the years, but I listened to it all the way through the other week and it just blew me away. Just Like A Woman, though, I've never liked and I'm sure, never will... not even the bloke I saw a couple of years ago who rendered it as Just Like Paul Newman. One of my favourite scenes in High Fidelity - where Jack Black is shocked that the guy doesn't own Blonde on Blonde, but tells him he won't tell anyone and hands him a used copy to buy. Lovely moment. - - c ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:38:21 +0000 From: "Charlotte Tupman" Subject: More Snail gigs Any UK fegs want to go and see Matthew Seligman's band Snail in London? They've got two dates coming up, both of which I'll be going to: Dec 15 @ the Bull & Gate, Kentish Town Jan 09 @ Metro, Oxford Street I can vouch for the fact that they're entertaining... Charlotte _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:24:34 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Happy Thanksgiving from Kansan [Boy, that "Madigan = Dina" claim is a ludicrous stretch, even by *Kansan's* standards] HBO will repeat "Carnivale" episodes 9-11 tomorrow, Friday, November 28, starting at 9 pm ET. This is in preparation for the first season's final episode (No. 12), that will be presented this Sunday. "Carnivale" is a coded message about Our Lady Heidi Klum and me, Nick Kaffes, and our friends and families. In the opening sequence of "Carnivale" a young girl is shown followed by the face of an Archangel on a Tarot card. The girl and the Archangel have very similar faces and both of them represent Victoria's Secret Archangel Heidi. My last name, Kaffes, means "coffee" in Greek and also "brown", the color of coffee. The two main characters of "Carnivale" are Ben Hawkins, played by NICK Stahl, and Brother Justin, played by Clancy BROWN, and both of them represent me, Nick Kaffes, i.e., NICK BROWN, different aspects of my personality. Brother Justin is named after St. Justin, whose feast day is June 1, Victorious Heidi's birthday. In a famous dream sequence in episode No. 2 both Ben and Brother Justin meet at a cafe, along with their predecessors, Scudder and the Russian soldier: CAFE: coffee shop. I.e., all these avatars are contained within me, Nick Kaffes (Coffee). The waitress serves them coffee and says: "Every prophet in his house". I.e., all four avatars are contained within me. Brother Justin's sister, Sister Iris, lives with him and represents my wife Dina. The childhood names of Sister Iris and Brother Justin were Irina and Alexi, a reference to our younger daughter Irenie Alexia. Our older daughter Caterina Cleopatra is represented by the new character Catalina. "Caterina" and "Catalina" are versions of the same name, "Catherine". St. Catherine was from Alexandria, Egypt, where Cleopatra had reigned as the last Pharaoh. The conjoint twins of "Carnivale", Alexandria and Caladonia, refer to Egypt and Celtic Scotland (Caledonia), respectively. This is to show that "Carnivale" is based on the Egyptian-Greek magic of Alexandria and the Druid magic of Celtic Caledonia. Sister Iris (Irina), who represents my wife Dina, is played by the actress Amy Madigan: maDIgAN DINA ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #438 ********************************