From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #436 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, November 25 2003 Volume 12 : Number 436 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: reap [Miles Goosens ] Re: reap [John Barrington Jones ] My fave Shakespeare ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Two Baseball Reaps [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Rock Me Baby--? [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Rock Me Baby--? [Tom Clark ] Re: reap [Tom Clark ] alt-country/former alt-country "most fuckable" award goes to... ["Natalie] By the time he gets to Phoenix... ["Glen Uber" ] Roy Harper [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] The Robyn Hitchcock (& The Soft Boys) Ticket Stub Gallery ["Stewart C. Ru] Re: Roy Harper ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Roy Harper ["Matt Sewell" ] Re: The Robyn Hitchcock (& The Soft Boys) Ticket Stub Gallery [Carrie Gal] Re: The Robyn Hitchcock (& The Soft Boys) Ticket Stub Gallery [Sebastian ] various gnatmaniax [Miles Goosens ] FEG TREE - update [jill sunderlin ] Re: FEG TREE - update [fingerpuppets ] Hamlet/Survivor/Voyager Smackdown (not really) etc. ["ross taylor" ] listmaniax ["Jason R. Thornton" ] The Magic Garden [Ken Weingold ] And again, my brother-in-law does accupressure for her mom... ["Rex.Broom] The Squid and the Damage Done ["\"The Mammal Brain\"" ] Re: The Squid and the Damage Done ["Jason R. Thornton" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 16:52:11 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: reap At 05:28 PM 11/24/2003 -0500, Ken Weingold wrote: >On Mon, Nov 24, 2003, Eb wrote: >> Sam Goody/Musicland record stores. > >Good. Sam Goody has been a total rip-off since the '80s at least. On the other hand, their Media Play stores offer better prices than their Sam Goody/Musicland stores, plus they specialize in all the media that I consume in mass quantities (CDs, computer/video games, books, DVDs), and their Replay Rewards program has been a big winner with us. I support Nashville's only mom-'n'-pop rock record store (Grimey's) with a big share of my music dollars, but that store didn't exist until a few years ago, plus they're music-only, so Media Play is where I've been going for the things I can't find locally via the indie route. Anyone got a link yet? Newest thing I've been able to turn up has to do with Best Buy being hit on Friday with a lawsuit having to do with their prior ownership of the Musicland brands, and before that, a boatload of store closings over the last six months. If Media Play's going down too, I've got some Replay certificates to use up a little more quickly than I anticipated... later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:47:20 -0800 (PST) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Re: reap On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Eb wrote: > Sam Goody/Musicland record stores. Thank god! =jbj= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 16:56:59 -0600 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: My fave Shakespeare My favorite Shakespeare performance is the King Lear that Laurence Olivier did for the BBC in 1984. Perfect, perfect, perfect. John Hurt (as the Fool!), Diana Rigg, and many other fine performances. Amazon.com details here: http://tinyurl.com/we5p ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:34:05 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Two Baseball Reaps Warren Spahn http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/spahnwa01.shtml Bubba Hyde, ex-Negro League great http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1669637 ===== "Senator John McCain recently compared the situation in Iraq to the Vietnam era -- to which President Bush replied, 'What does Iraq have in common with drinking beer in Texas?'" -- Craig Kilborn "I don't think the Bush administration lied to us about Iraq. I think it's worse than that. I think they fooled themselves. I think they were conned by Ahmad Chalabi. I think they indulged in wishful thinking to a point of near criminality. I think they decided anyone who didn't agree with them was an enemy, anti-American, disloyal. In other words, I think they're criminally stupid." -- Molly Ivins __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 13:08:49 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Rock Me Baby--? >On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, marc.h@earthlink.net wrote: >> Rock Me Baby--? > >My guess is that this is 'Rock your baby' by George McCrae, which was a >big UK hit. Recorded in that Florida studio which used to put out stacks >of well-crafted pop-funk. What were they _called_? both Johnny Nash and David Cassidy had hits called "Rock me baby" in the early 70s. James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:36:15 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Rock Me Baby--? on 11/24/03 4:08 PM, James Dignan at grutness@surf4nix.com wrote: >> On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, marc.h@earthlink.net wrote: >>> Rock Me Baby--? >> >> My guess is that this is 'Rock your baby' by George McCrae, which was a >> big UK hit. Recorded in that Florida studio which used to put out stacks >> of well-crafted pop-funk. What were they _called_? > > both Johnny Nash and David Cassidy had hits called "Rock me baby" in the > early 70s. > It's the McCrae tune. That S&V medley is the same as the one he did with GLP on the Grant Lee Hitchcock tour, as captured on Elixers & Remedies. - -tc, who transferred E&R to DVD for anyone interested... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:38:56 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: reap on 11/24/03 2:28 PM, Ken Weingold at bofh@unix.vi wrote: > On Mon, Nov 24, 2003, Eb wrote: >> Sam Goody/Musicland record stores. > > Good. Sam Goody has been a total rip-off since the '80s at least. > Dude, they used to rock in the mid-70's when my friends and I would buy lp's at the Smith Haven Mall. We'd tape them and then take them back as "damaged" for full cash back. I've been a pirate for a looong time. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:56:15 -0800 From: "Natalie Jacobs" Subject: alt-country/former alt-country "most fuckable" award goes to... No, not Martin Phillipps... James busts a 40 of Steinlager (should such a thing exist): >The best news is how healthy and active he looks these days. Looks like all >remnants of the hepatitis he suffered have long gone, and that things are >moving in the right direction (finances notwithstanding) with the music. Huzzah!!! Thanks for the update! > >> I nevertheless regard Jeff Tweedy in the same way that Rex regards > >>Lucinda Williams. > >If you knew the specifics of my fantasies, you'd reconsider that statement. > Especially with regards to wardrobe. Also, he's not old enough to be >your dad, so that makes an unfotunate dent in the kink factor. But fair >enough. You two would make a cute couple. Aw, thanks. He is married, but adultery isn't much of in the way of kinkiness. Oh, and you don't know the specifics of my fantasies either, but yeah, I'd guess that the wardrobe factor is probably pretty different. :P I don't think I busted this particular 40 at the time, but I did receive a hug from Mr. Tweedy in return for the tinfoil sculpture I gave him, which is almost certainly (barring an incredibly improbable chain of events) the closest I will ever come to fulfilling said fantasies, alas. >But hey, she's been living in Hollywood for what, about eighteen months >now? So she's conveniently located to you, and since she burns through >bandmembers and boyfriends, it's probably just a matter of time before she >needs another L.A.-based tour guitarist... I thought she only dated bassists. n. now studying for: my 25-page intrapartum final exam... help me... _________________________________________________________________ Set yourself up for fun at home! Get tips on home entertainment equipment, video game reviews, and more here. http://special.msn.com/home/homeent.armx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:44:03 -0800 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: By the time he gets to Phoenix... This is fookin' bizarre. Dude is bringin' shame on the name! Cheers! - -g- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:59:22 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: By the time he gets to Phoenix... DUI and assault on a police officer - I didn't know Tanya Tucker was in law enforcement! - -tc on 11/24/03 10:44 PM, Glen Uber at apostrophe@cruxofthebiscuit.com wrote: > This is fookin' bizarre. Dude is bringin' shame on the name! > > > > Cheers! > -g- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:31:13 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Roy Harper A question which occurred to me while listening to the marvellous Roy Harper album "HQ (When an old cricketer leaves the crease)"... has Robyn ever performed any of roy's songs? I'd love to hear him sing "Forget me not". James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:26:32 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: The Robyn Hitchcock (& The Soft Boys) Ticket Stub Gallery Just to let you know that it's open for business again: Yes, it's still as sad as it always was. Until I fix the link at the bottom, please send submissions to me. Thanks to Bayard for keeping it going. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:56:18 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Roy Harper James Dignan wrote: > > I'd love to hear him sing "Forget me not". Or "Tom Tiddler's Ground". Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 13:44:11 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: Roy Harper Tom Tiddler's Ground? I do a mean version of that myself! Having checked the Asking Tree, there aren't any RH (er, that's Roy Harper) songs on there... strange that... of course, there's no need to point out that Roy's namechecked in Coming Through, is there? Cheers Matt >From: "Stewart C. Russell" > >James Dignan wrote: >> >>I'd love to hear him sing "Forget me not". > >Or "Tom Tiddler's Ground". > > Stewart - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Find the perfect gift for everyone on your list this Christmas at MSN Shopping. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:51:30 +0100 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: The Robyn Hitchcock (& The Soft Boys) Ticket Stub Gallery Awesome! Martedl, 25 nov 2003, alle 13:26 Europe/Rome, Stewart C. Russell ha scritto: > Just to let you know that it's open for business again: > > > > Yes, it's still as sad as it always was. Until I fix the link at the > bottom, please send submissions to me. > > Thanks to Bayard for keeping it going. > > Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:06:56 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: The Robyn Hitchcock (& The Soft Boys) Ticket Stub Gallery > Just to let you know that it's open for business again: > > A sad reminder that the last real tour of Germany was fucking 12 years ago! I saw him once after that for that interview plus show in Hamburg, but that was only one date. :-( - -- Sebastian Hagedorn PGP key ID: 0x4D105B45 Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156 50823 Kvln http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:52:55 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: various gnatmaniax At 05:38 PM 11/22/2003 -0800, Natalie Jacobs wrote: >>Melissa offers that she thinks all of the current Wilco members are cute in >>various ways, and that she'd never describe their appearance with the word >>"wino," either as adjective or noun. > >Does her affection extend to Mike the Laptop Guy, too? Mike the Laptop Guy >gets no love. I don't think she was counting him as an official member of Wilco. >>thought the rest of the cast, human or "alien," were usually very good at >>what they did, but maybe that's just my Claudia Christian crush talking. > >She was good, but Andreas Katsulas and Peter Jurasik (sp?) were amazing - >especially Katsulas, who managed to out-act almost everyone on the show with >a massive amount of "alien" make-up plastered to his face. That's quite an >achievement. What was it Michael Keaton said when he did his first BATMAN movie, about ... "You can't let the suit work you; you gotta work the suit." (Or something close to that.) Katsulas worked the suit. >(re. Stargate TV show) >>OK, I know it was on the Sci-Fi channel and it starred McGyver, but I >>really don't know much beyond that. Anyone got any thoughts on it? > >I watched it a few times and it was pretty entertaining. I like the plot >set-up where the main characters have to visit a different universe (or >whatever) in every episode. Nothing to write home about, but not too bad. Sounds like it's worth renting rather than buying. Thanks for the opinion! >>But hey, she's been living in Hollywood for what, about eighteen months >>now? So she's conveniently located to you, and since she burns through >>bandmembers and boyfriends, it's probably just a matter of time before she >>needs another L.A.-based tour guitarist... > >I thought she only dated bassists. Her main main squeeze in Music City was her bassist, true enuff. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:16:23 -0500 From: jill sunderlin Subject: FEG TREE - update Just to let you all know where the tree is at (more or less)... as of last night woj had the early show loaded to the server. He's still "tweaking" the late show last I heard. When both shows are up on the server I will send the ftp download info in stages to everyone who emailed me that they have broadband/and are SHN friendly (we don't want everyone trying to hit the server at once). I think it's going to work then, that if each of those people makes one copy and mails it to a leaf, we've got everyone covered. So -- no "middle" branches anymore with this tree set-up -- just one branch and a leaf or two per branch! So I'll send specifics out to everyone who's emailed me soon. And if you still want to get on the tree, either as branch or leaf, email me - -- I'm still putting the list of branches and leaves together. jill of the tree ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 13:28:13 -0500 From: fingerpuppets Subject: Re: FEG TREE - update one time at band camp, jill sunderlin (jill@lightfallsdesign.com) said: >Just to let you all know where the tree is at (more or less)... as of >last night woj had the early show loaded to the server. He's still >"tweaking" the late show last I heard. tweaking is complete. just need to cut up the wavs, compress to shn and upload to jill. probably all will be taken care of by tomorrow sometime (at which time, i will also start tackling the trades/b&ps for the bottom line shows as well). >I think it's going to work then, that if each of those people makes one >copy and mails it to a leaf, we've got everyone covered. So -- no >"middle" branches anymore with this tree set-up -- just one branch and >a leaf or two per branch! a tree appropriate for autumn and fall -- all twigs and no leaves! >So I'll send specifics out to everyone who's emailed me soon. And if >you still want to get on the tree, either as branch or leaf, email me >-- I'm still putting the list of branches and leaves together. quoted for the benefit of the fegmaniax-announce folks. woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:11:14 -0500 From: "ross taylor" Subject: Hamlet/Survivor/Voyager Smackdown (not really) etc. Glen Uber Alles-- >>The Dells-- >> >>Did "The Tighten Up" right? I liked Todd Rundgren's "The Loosen Up" >Heh. My sarcasm meter pegged slightly when I read this. "The Tighten Up" >was Archie Bell & The Drells. But you knew that, right? Actually I think I was confused. But I was being so silly & scattershot it probably doesn't. Really matter. - --- Eb/JB-- Isn't "Fountain of Sorrow" about Nico? But, GU, wasn't "These Days" by Townes Van Zandt? - --- JeFF-- >I'll start itemizing my snot if this keeps up. Crusty dragons, clear liquid, gummy green pellets.. . if Eskimos have all those words for snow, I should be able to think of more... - --- Shaksper-- I liked the Ethan Hawke Hamlet, w/ Sam Shepard as the dead King. I can't talk technically about the acting or filmaking but I felt a lot of important tensions were done well -- for instance Polonius. He's pompus, & a manipulative asshole to a dangerous degree, but IMO you need to feel something for him when he goes since that drives the whole situation w/ Ophelia & Laertes & our increasing uneasiness w/ the freaked out Prince. I've seen versions where he was just a buffoon, & the main life in the play was getting broad comedy out of him. One of my problems w/ that film was I felt some of the time there were problems w/ converting the poetry into decidedly modern, um, speech sounds? cadences? tones of voice? I think Murray may have had one or two of those "how can I be a late 20th cent. person and say this?" moments. But I thought it looked pretty good in corporate dress (& business casual). I did also like the Branaaoouugghh version for being complete -- how wordy it is is something important about the play. Hamlet has diarrhea of the brain & he's never seen anything he didn't want to make nine metaphores about, & some of that bleeds over into other characters (I'm one of those people who thinks Shakespeare kept adding to the play for much of his life). In some ways H reminds me of Robyn referring to himself as "a snail in fast forward." My take on "you can't ruin Shakespeare" is that even if there's tons wrong w/ the production, at least you end up talking about the play & the charactors & there's always something there. - --- Steve T. & the animation process-- Even *I* have come out of my shell & seen that commercial (someone called me into another room -- "Ross, you especially will like this" and I did). It's groovey. - --- Sometimes you have to bless rock n roll-- I was in a toney bookstore & they were playing Let It Be...Nookie over the sound system. The man in line in front of me was asking the clerk some involved question about a book, & when he paused Lennon sang "everybody had a wet dream." They both just froze for a few more seconds & then continued as if nothing had happened. - --- Wishing Americans a happy THanksgiving & Britons some pagan corn-god thing & wondering if New Zealand celebrates its settlement in any way. Ross Taylor Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 13:26:17 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Rex and Miles' Book Hour Hey, Rex, ever heard of Lee Maynard and his novel CRUM, about growing up in Crum, WV? I hadn't until yesterday, and still wouldn't have if I hadn't been working late, which caused me to drive home during NPR's Fresh Air rather than during All Things Considered: http://freshair.npr.org/day_fa.jhtml?display=day&todayDate=11/24/2003 http://www.as.wvu.edu/press/ibp_crum.html So obviously I haven't read the book yet, having discovered it just last evening 'n' all, but I'm interested. Two things bugged me about the interview -- Maynard is now officially the first genuine Appalachian person I've heard say "Appalachian" with a long "a" in the middle (ap-uh-lay-shun), but he also had a period in his life where he was desperate to shed his identity as a West Virginian, so he might have picked it up in those days. He also said "bloody" in its U.K. adjectival usage at least three times, which is something else I'm pretty sure he bloody well didn't pick up during his 1950s Mountain State childhood. But those are quibbles, and a lot of what he talked about rang true -- the love/hate relationship with the state, the people who can't imagine being anywhere else vs. the expatriates, and having an unseverable connection to that place. He also was dead on about how most of the "outside" writing about WV just doesn't get it. However, his Crum of the 1950s seems *way* more backward and brutal than my Powhatan childhood of the 1970s and early '80s. Plus his dad had a masters' degree *and* they lived just a few miles away from Huntington, so, um, dunno what was up with all that never going anywhere. Before I forget to mention it, I've also come to realize that my childhood lacked one of the quintessential Feg experiences: getting beaten up by jocks. Maybe it was a product of being from a smaller place, but the guys on the sports teams at my school (including our spectacularly successful basketball team, which still holds AFIK the U.S. record for consecutive h.s. state championships) were pretty much just like other kids. They were the same guys we'd known growing up together from elementary school on, and they didn't have their own geek-beating clique or anything. In fact, a lot of my best high school memories have to do with being around and working with the sports teams. So that probably has something to do with why I still find sports interesting -- I didn't have it beaten out of me as a kid! later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:01:33 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: listmaniax The Greatest 500 Albums of All Time, according to the wanks at Rolling Stone: http://www.rollingstone.com/features/coverstory/featuregen.asp?pid=2164 Here be the first 10: 1. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, The Beatles 2. Pet Sounds, The Beach Boys 3. Revolver, The Beatles 4. Highway 61 Revisited, Bob Dylan 5. Rubber Soul, The Beatles 6. What's Going On, Marvin Gaye 7. Exile on Main Street, The Rolling Stones 8. London Calling, The Clash 9. Blonde on Blonde, Bob Dylan 10. The Beatles ("The White Album"), The Beatles There's a good blurb in the magazine about the first time Shirley Manson heard the White Album. She was "getting finger-fucked by someone" at the time. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:09:20 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: The Magic Garden Does anyone by any chance of a recording of the theme songs from the drug-infested 70s TV show The Magic Garden? The one with Paula, Carol, Sherlock, and the Chuckle Patch. If not, anyone know where I could find it? Thanks. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:09:42 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: And again, my brother-in-law does accupressure for her mom... James: >>James (whose favourite filmed Shakespeare is the 1930s-styled McKellen >>version of Richard III) Ah yeah... love that one. That was back when I worked in film exhibition. We had a joke in the office that we would recommend it to people highly, even if they hadn't seen the first two films. Miles unloads on me: >>You actually watched DS9 just to see Avery "(Miles thinks he sucks, basically)" >>Brooks? That same stump that could outact Michael O'Hare and Bruce >>Boxleitner could smoke Avery Brooks too -- in fact, I'd take either of their >>B5 performances over Brooks' Sisko. Whoa! Now, we certainly didn't watch DS9 *just* because of Avery Brooks, but I never had any problem with him, at all. All I was saying was that DS9 Season 1 sucked pretty hard except for Brooks (and Colm Meaney, I guess), as we reckoned it, and B5 Season 1 was pretty damned great with the glaring exception of O'Hare. Whew. So how do you feel about Kate Mulgrew? Also, in the final analysis, Brooks, like his B5 counterparts, was actually given something to do. Which makes a difference not seen since in that particular franchise. >>this whole Lucinda thing is almost certainly best left as fantasy. That was the plan. The bulk of my attraction is based on her talent, which I think is worthy of worship, and her voice, which for reasons unknown literally arouses me. >>But hey, she's been living in Hollywood for what, about eighteen months now? Didn't know that, actually... >>and since she burns through bandmembers and boyfriends, it's probably just a >>matter of time before she needs another L.A.-based tour guitarist... Yikes. I do know the tunes. Perhaps I'm doomed. Well, as Neil might say, remember me to my love, I know I'll miss herrrrr... - -Rex "Drunken Angel" Broome ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:27:50 -0800 (PST) From: "\"The Mammal Brain\"" Subject: The Squid and the Damage Done . ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:05:19 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: RexTrek At 12:09 PM 11/25/2003 -0800, Rex.Broome wrote: >Miles unloads on me: I'm sorry that it came across that way -- it was more just sheer amazement that anyone would find Avery Brooks' performance to be a reason to tune in, and as it was phrased in your original message, it seemed like it was your *only* reason! It's not as though I'd condemn you and the missus to a lifetime of COACH reruns for it, even if it was true. :-) >>>You actually watched DS9 just to see Avery "(Miles thinks he sucks, >basically)" >>>Brooks? That same stump that could outact Michael O'Hare and Bruce >>>Boxleitner could smoke Avery Brooks too -- in fact, I'd take either of their >>>B5 performances over Brooks' Sisko. > >Whoa! Now, we certainly didn't watch DS9 *just* because of Avery Brooks, >but I never had any problem with him, at all. All I was saying was that DS9 >Season 1 sucked pretty hard except for Brooks (and Colm Meaney, I guess), as >we reckoned it, and B5 Season 1 was pretty damned great with the glaring >exception of O'Hare. I don't remember enough about individual seasons of DS9, but I'm pretty sure we liked the fist year a lot, since I don't recall either of us having reservations and we tuned in every week. Season 1 of B5, OTOH, seems pretty slow and not necessarily compelling, more like "promising." Of course, it *delivers* on those promises beyond any expectations, but it's real easy for me to imagine someone intrigued by our gushing praise of the show watching Season 1 and thinking "um, this seems OK 'n' all, but what the heck were those guys smoking?" We also weren't doing a side-by-side with B5 at the time. We didn't start watching B5 from the get-go, and a couple of cursory mid-season viewings were enough for us to realize that the only way to watch B5 would be from the start. So later, when TNT got the show (and bankrolled Season 5), we made it a point to watch from the beginning and got hooked, just as we expected would happen. Favorite B5 character: Zathrus. >So how do you feel about Kate Mulgrew? Based on the whole season-and-a-half or so of VOYAGER that I stomached, I thought Mrs. Colombo did just fine -- ersatz Katherine Hepburn seemed like an OK thing for Janeway to be. But the plots and the dialogue on that show, geezus... >Also, in the final analysis, Brooks, like his B5 counterparts, was actually >given something to do. Which makes a difference not seen since in that >particular franchise. True enuff. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 13:19:51 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: The Squid and the Damage Done At 12:27 PM 11/25/2003 -0800, \"The Mammal Brain\" wrote: >. Squid is probably the one food that's better after having been frozen rather than fresh. Freezing actually tenderizes the squid meat. I actually tried squid ink pasta for the first time a little over a week ago - delicious. Did I mention the pasta at Largo was pretty bland? - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:11:57 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: listmaniax >The Greatest 500 Albums of All Time, according to the wanks at Rolling Stone: > >http://www.rollingstone.com/features/coverstory/featuregen.asp?pid=2164 I hashed this out with a few friends via personal correspondence, but didn't post the subject to the Feglist because I figured I had exceeded my "High Fidelity" bandwidth. But...taking into account Rolling Stone's strong editorial slant, here are the albums from my collection which seemed most glaringly overlooked. The Beatles: Magical Mystery Tour (probably skipped due to the EP vs. LP issue) David Bowie: Heroes Elvis Costello: Get Happy!! Dylan: Live 1966, The Royal Albert Hall Concert Dylan: The Bootleg Series 1961-1991 (hrm...sometimes the list seems to discriminate against multi-disc sets, and sometimes it doesn't) Eno: Taking Tiger Mountain (though Green World and Warm Jets *did* make the list) King Crimson: In the Court of the Crimson King (prog clearly was shortchanged...no Yes, ELP, Rush or Genesis on the list either, though Aqualung and plenty of Pink Floyd made it) Led Zeppelin: Led Zeppelin III Roy Orbison: For the Lonely: A Roy Orbison Anthology, 1956-1965 (come on, gotta have some Roy!) R.E.M.: Out of Time (one of my own least favorite R.E.M. albums, but I'm trying to think "objectively" here) Roxy Music: debut Talking Heads: Speaking in Tongues Traffic: Traffic If you eliminated the annoyingly redundant entries from the list (compilations by Hank Williams, Simon & Garfunkel, the Byrds, Otis Redding and others which are doubled by additional items which overlap...Meet the Beatles, since With the Beatles is also included...two Robert Johnson entries instead of one...etc.), you could probably make room for the above 14 with no trouble at all. I owned just under half of the 500, for what it's worth. Several others have been on my shopping list for awhile, such as Sandinista, Tonight's the Night and, well, just about anything by Bob Marley. They're never gonna get me to buy any U2 or Michael Jackson, though. ;) Eb ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #436 ********************************