From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #434 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, November 24 2003 Volume 12 : Number 434 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Yoshimi 5.1 [Tom Clark ] Tweedy, aliens, etc. ["Natalie Jacobs" ] reap [Eb ] the death of music [Jill Brand ] Re: the death of music [Carrie Galbraith ] Re: the death of music [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: the death of music [Jeff Dwarf ] REAP [Tom Clark ] Re: the death of music ["Glen Uber" ] Re: Any Survivor fans? [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Jean AARP & the Post Modern Maturity [Carrie Galbraith ] Flying Pyramids [steve ] Re: Flying Pyramids [Capuchin ] RE: Flying Pyramids ["Brian Huddell" ] Re: Jean AARP & the Post Modern Maturity [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Jean AARP & the Post Modern Maturity [Capuchin ] RE: Flying Pyramids ["Maximilian Lang" ] RE: Flying Pyramids ["Brian Huddell" ] Re: Jean AARP & the Post Modern Maturity [Jeff Dwarf ] Flying Buicks [steve ] Largo 11/22 ["marc.h@earthlink.net" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:26:52 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Yoshimi 5.1 The new issue of Sound & Vision has a full page article on the new DVD-Audio version of The Flaming Lips' "Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots". Each track is specially mixed to take full advantage of a 5.1 system, including "Do You Realize?", which rotates a full 360 degrees during the course of the song ("Don't listen to this while driving"). This one's on my xmas list. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:38:44 -0800 From: "Natalie Jacobs" Subject: Tweedy, aliens, etc. >Melissa offers that she thinks all of the current Wilco members are cute in >various ways, and that she'd never describe their appearance with the word >"wino," either as adjective or noun. Does her affection extend to Mike the Laptop Guy, too? Mike the Laptop Guy gets no love. I have to add to my previous comments that, despite his occasional resemblance to a South Carolina gas station attendant, I nevertheless regard Jeff Tweedy in the same way that Rex regards Lucinda Williams. >thought the rest of the cast, human or "alien," were usually very good at >what they did, but maybe that's just my Claudia Christian crush talking. She was good, but Andreas Katsulas and Peter Jurasik (sp?) were amazing - especially Katsulas, who managed to out-act almost everyone on the show with a massive amount of "alien" make-up plastered to his face. That's quite an achievement. (re. Stargate TV show) >OK, I know it was on the Sci-Fi channel and it starred McGyver, but I >really don't know much beyond that. Anyone got any thoughts on it? I watched it a few times and it was pretty entertaining. I like the plot set-up where the main characters have to visit a different universe (or whatever) in every episode. Nothing to write home about, but not too bad. n. _________________________________________________________________ Has one of the new viruses infected your computer? Find out with a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. Take the FreeScan now! http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:25:34 -0800 From: Eb Subject: reap http://www.treygunn.com/word/letter.html Trey Gunn's meal ticket. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:10:09 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: the death of music Jackson Browne helped music die for me while I was living in Colorado in the late 70s. The only thing you could get on the radio in Fort Collins was country music and Top 40 crap. Their idea of "alternative" music was Jackson Browne. And Dan Fogelberg, too ("Dan from Boulder," as he was known). The gag meter's needle often zinged to the right with each playing of one of JB's sanctimonious songs. The double whammy was that they couldn't get enough of Take It Easy, so I'd get to hear both his version and the Eagles. The stomach cramps are coming back..... Jill, who hopes Robyn never covers Running on Empty ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:33:59 +0100 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: the death of music I'm with you all the way on this one Jill! My pet name for Jackson Browne was "The Whiner." I could never figure out the attraction to Dan Fogelberg (the man and the music) either. - - c Domenica, 23 nov 2003, alle 14:10 Europe/Rome, Jill Brand ha scritto: > Jackson Browne helped music die for me while I was living in Colorado > in > the late 70s. The only thing you could get on the radio in Fort > Collins > was country music and Top 40 crap. Their idea of "alternative" music > was > Jackson Browne. And Dan Fogelberg, too ("Dan from Boulder," as he was > known). The gag meter's needle often zinged to the right with each > playing of one of JB's sanctimonious songs. The double whammy was that > they couldn't get enough of Take It Easy, so I'd get to hear both his > version and the Eagles. > > The stomach cramps are coming back..... > > Jill, who hopes Robyn never covers Running on Empty ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:02:43 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: the death of music Carrie Galbraith wrote: > I'm with you all the way on this one Jill! > My pet name for Jackson Browne was "The Whiner." And yet, he still wrote three songs off Nico's _Chelsea Girls._ Shame about what happened afterwards. ===== "Senator John McCain recently compared the situation in Iraq to the Vietnam era -- to which President Bush replied, 'What does Iraq have in common with drinking beer in Texas?'" -- Craig Kilborn "I don't think the Bush administration lied to us about Iraq. I think it's worse than that. I think they fooled themselves. I think they were conned by Ahmad Chalabi. I think they indulged in wishful thinking to a point of near criminality. I think they decided anyone who didn't agree with them was an enemy, anti-American, disloyal. In other words, I think they're criminally stupid." -- Molly Ivins __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:16:31 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: the death of music Carrie Galbraith wrote: > I'm with you all the way on this one Jill! > My pet name for Jackson Browne was "The Whiner." And yet, he still wrote three songs off Nico's _Chelsea Girls._ Shame about what happened afterwards. ===== "Senator John McCain recently compared the situation in Iraq to the Vietnam era -- to which President Bush replied, 'What does Iraq have in common with drinking beer in Texas?'" -- Craig Kilborn "I don't think the Bush administration lied to us about Iraq. I think it's worse than that. I think they fooled themselves. I think they were conned by Ahmad Chalabi. I think they indulged in wishful thinking to a point of near criminality. I think they decided anyone who didn't agree with them was an enemy, anti-American, disloyal. In other words, I think they're criminally stupid." -- Molly Ivins __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:34:55 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: REAP Kellie Waymire, 36 I didn't recognize the name either, until I saw her picture. She was on Six Feet Under as Brenda's prostitute friend, and apparently on Star Trek Enterprise too. http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/PersonDetail/personid-14554 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 09:57:19 -0800 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: Re: the death of music This one time at band camp, Jeff Dwarf wrote: >And yet, he still wrote three songs off Nico's >_Chelsea Girls._ Shame about what happened afterwards. I'll admit that his song, "These Days" (covered by almost everyone) is pretty damn good. He was also an early member of the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band and although he left the group prior to recording their first album, two of his better songs -- "Melissa" & "Holding" -- appear on that album. - -g- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:34:14 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Any Survivor fans? - -- Tom Clark is rumored to have mumbled on Donnerstag, 20. November 2003 18:26 Uhr -0800 regarding Re: Any Survivor fans?: > nd - Campari & Vodka, with a splash of Cointreau. This is gonna take some > getting used to. Try it with OJ. I think that combo is the best one if you're just setting up to acquire the taste ... - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:04:50 +0100 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: Jean AARP & the Post Modern Maturity Giovedl, 20 nov 2003, alle 19:22 Europe/Rome, ross taylor ha scritto: > Master & Commander & Big Boss Man -- > > Various things have kept me from seeing this yet, including the fact > that my wife is very > squeamish about movie gore (I think there will be some) but she put me > onto the books & it > seems right to see it w/ her. The reviews haven't been as positive as > I'd hoped (fyi I liked > Truman Show, but not as much as many others. IMO humor & fantasy > aren't Weir's strong > suits.) I kind of get the impression Weir is more of a hired gun here > than he was on other > pictures? Also I have enuf of a problem w/ authority that even when > Shakespeare talks about > How Authority Works (and he talks about it a lot & I love Shakespeare) > I back off some. I'm > sure I'll like the film. > OK, in my little back water we are just getting the Matrix sequel so there are no Masters and Commanders as yet. I am pretty oblivious to this film but I've been a Weir fan since the first time I viewed Picnic At Hanging Rock and The Last Wave. I liked The Truman Show even though I do not like some of the actors. I liked Dead Poets Society as well. You're spot on on your comment about Weir's weak points however. But my oblivion does make me ask the question about the books. We ARE talking the Hornblower series, right? I read those when I was a kid and loved 'em. All films released here are dubbed however so I tend to NOT go to the movies anymore, well, unless it's an Italian film of course. Speaking of Shakespeare, and since I can't talk about Robyn's shows, I just saw the Folgier > Theatre's production of "All's Well That Ends Well." They did a good > job, making it seem like a > dark comedy w/ out making it postmodern. Scratch off one more > Shakespeare play I'd never > seen performed. Now I really need to see a good "Love's Labours Lost" > to get the Branaughghghgh film out of my mind. > Lucky you! I did see a lovely Midsummer Nights dream this past July done by a Brit company - all guys. It was good. And I agree - Branagh really ruins Shakespeare doesn't he? And he shouts through all the films. Yuck. - - c ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:15:16 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Jean AARP & the Post Modern Maturity On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Carrie Galbraith wrote: > I am pretty oblivious to this film but I've been a Weir fan since the > first time I viewed Picnic At Hanging Rock and The Last Wave. I liked > The Truman Show even though I do not like some of the actors. I liked > Dead Poets Society as well. You're spot on on your comment about Weir's > weak points however. Wasn't he the fellow who made Fearless? That's a brilliant movie. I HATE Ed Harris and really think Jim Carrey only exist[s|ed] to have made The Cable Guy, but as sappy as it is, I really love that scene in The Truman Show when Truman hits the wall. I guess I just projected myself in right there and the kind of shock and frustration where your whole world is just broken down before your eyes... I could relate to that somehow. > But my oblivion does make me ask the question about the books. We ARE > talking the Hornblower series, right? I read those when I was a kid and > loved 'em. Gads, no. We're talking about Patrick O'Brian, undisputed king of historical nautical fiction that's been adapted to at least one film starring Russell Crowe. > Lucky you! I did see a lovely Midsummer Nights dream this past July done > by a Brit company - all guys. It was good. And I agree - Branagh really > ruins Shakespeare doesn't he? And he shouts through all the films. Yuck. Speaking of scenes I love, there's that great bit in Blackadder: Back And Forth where Blackadder punches Shakespeare ("for every schoolboy for the next four hundred years who has to read Romeo And Juliet") and then kicks him while he's down. "And THAT was for Ken Branagh's interminable four-hour Hamlet!" "Who's Ken Branagh?" "I'm going to tell him you said that... And I do believe he'll be quite hurt!" J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:29:09 -0600 From: steve Subject: Flying Pyramids OK, flying pyramids and Egyptian Gods from Enki Bilal - - - Steve __________ Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou - http://ykk.misago.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:02:56 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Flying Pyramids On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, steve wrote: > OK, flying pyramids and Egyptian Gods from Enki Bilal - > Oooh! Here's a link to something you'd really like, it's called "actual life experience"... Oh, wait, that's not on the web... or DVD. I'm going back out. By the way, your broke-ass link tries to come up with a stylesheet that doesn't exist. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:07:07 -0600 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: Flying Pyramids There's nothing wrong with the link. > > > > By the way, your broke-ass link tries to come up with a > stylesheet that > doesn't exist. > > J. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:08:51 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Jean AARP & the Post Modern Maturity - -- Carrie Galbraith is rumored to have mumbled on Sonntag, 23. November 2003 23:04 Uhr +0100 regarding Re: Jean AARP & the Post Modern Maturity: > And I agree - Branagh really ruins Shakespeare doesn't he? I disagree. I really, really like his Henry V (although I have to admit to not knowing the Olivier version) and I think that his Hamlet is also pretty good. OK, it's long, but making it shorter would diminish it. I'm also of the opinion that it's absolutely impossible to ruin Shakespeare ;-) - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:26:10 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: RE: Flying Pyramids On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Brian Huddell wrote: > There's nothing wrong with the link. > > > > > > By the way, your broke-ass link tries to come up with a > > stylesheet that doesn't exist. Yes, there is. It attempts to reference this: And that doesn't exist. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:27:23 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Jean AARP & the Post Modern Maturity On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > I'm also of the opinion that it's absolutely impossible to ruin Shakespeare > ;-) I had to walk out of a production of Richard III a couple of years ago that would challenge that opinion... or at least tax it considerably. Grr... work keeps me at the keyboard another hour. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:38:46 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: RE: Flying Pyramids >From: "Brian Huddell" >To: >Subject: RE: Flying Pyramids >Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:07:07 -0600 I got through without a problem as well. Max >There's nothing wrong with the link. > > > > > > > > By the way, your broke-ass link tries to come up with a > > stylesheet that > > doesn't exist. > > > > J. _________________________________________________________________ Set yourself up for fun at home! Get tips on home entertainment equipment, video game reviews, and more here. http://special.msn.com/home/homeent.armx ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:40:50 -0600 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: Flying Pyramids I guess what I should have said is that in the browsers I've opened it with, I see the thing Steve wanted me to see. > And that doesn't exist. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:45:01 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Jean AARP & the Post Modern Maturity Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > -- Carrie Galbraith wrote: > > And I agree - Branagh really ruins Shakespeare > > doesn't he? > > I disagree. I really, really like his Henry V > (although I have to admit to not knowing the Olivier > version) and I think that his Hamlet is also pretty > good. OK, it's long, but making it shorter would > diminish it. There are some serious problems with it -- mostly the myriad cameos in all the smaller parts which are more distracting than anything else -- but its length isn't one of them. > I'm also of the opinion that it's absolutely > impossible to ruin Shakespeare ;-) Obviously the words of someone who never saw Mel Gibson's Hamlet. The Ethan Hawke one was pretty good, if more interesting than accomplished when push comes to shove. Bill Murray did a good job as Polonius. ===== "Senator John McCain recently compared the situation in Iraq to the Vietnam era -- to which President Bush replied, 'What does Iraq have in common with drinking beer in Texas?'" -- Craig Kilborn "I don't think the Bush administration lied to us about Iraq. I think it's worse than that. I think they fooled themselves. I think they were conned by Ahmad Chalabi. I think they indulged in wishful thinking to a point of near criminality. I think they decided anyone who didn't agree with them was an enemy, anti-American, disloyal. In other words, I think they're criminally stupid." -- Molly Ivins __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:11:47 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: RE: Flying Pyramids On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Brian Huddell wrote: > I guess what I should have said is that in the browsers I've opened it with, > I see the thing Steve wanted me to see. Right. They're trying to do something weird with dynamic content based on browser and their script is broken; that is to say, it doesn't handle all cases gracefully. Websites don't need to be half as complex as they are. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:53:08 -0600 From: steve Subject: Flying Buicks It's Flash, so you'll have to get to the trailer yourself. - - Steve __________ For kids who are 20 years younger than me, Linux is a great way to cut your teeth. It's a cultural phenomenon and a business phenomenon. Mac OS X is a rock-solid system that's beautifully designed. I much prefer it to Linux. - Bill Joy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 06:31:08 -0500 From: "marc.h@earthlink.net" Subject: Largo 11/22 Hey there-- I'll keep this one relatively brief because I'm very tired from reading through my e-mail from the last two days. I didn't get this posted last night because my friend was having a computer problem when we got back to his place. Hitchcock at the Largo 11/22 (acoustic) I'm Only You I've Got the Hots For You Balloon Man So You Think You're in Love My Wife and My Dead Wife Sound of Sound Solpadeine One L Glass Hotel You Remind Me of You (Enter Grant Lee Phillips on bass and vocals, and Jon Brion on keyboards and vocals) Sleeping With Your Devil Mask Cynthia Mask Uncorrected Personality Traits (country style) Queen Elvis I Feel Beautiful (2nd set, same three plus Ethan Johns on drums)--started with the entire second side of Avalon by Roxy Music The Main Thing Take A Chance With Me Anything to Turn You On True To Life next they did several improvised sounding songs--I'll give approximate titles Degrees of Nice (very good) Everybody Knows (that W sucks, but Rumsfield is the anti-Christ) ? (very Dylan-ish, but aborted after one verse) We're Bad People, We're Just Freaks then they went on to some on-the-spot covers: Hey Bulldog--the Beatles You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)--the Beatles (excellent) How Do You Sleep?--John Lennon (stunning) The Ocean--the Velvet Underground (very loose, very great) David Garza joined them on keyboards and they closed the show with a medley: Sound & Vision--David Bowie Rock Me Baby--? When You're in Love With a Beautiful Woman--? All in all, it was another great Largo show. Robyn said that Tuesday's show would have no repeats from Saturday's. He seemed to be in a great mood and was extremely talkative. Robyn confirmed at one point that he was now married and is really excited about the prospect of spending more time in the US next year playing more shows and recording a new album. In addition to Greg, Julie, and Melanie at my table, Jason and Catherine & Michael made it to the show. Are you going to be there Tuesday Rex? That pretty much covers it for the moment, but there's more to come on 11/25. Stay tuned... Marc - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #434 ********************************