From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #431 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, November 20 2003 Volume 12 : Number 431 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Show your Voyager pride ["Jason R. Thornton" ] re: neelixmaniax-digest V12 #429 [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: Show your Voyager pride [Miles Goosens ] Re: He's A Naked Rebel ["cmb adams" ] Re: He's A Naked Rebel ["cmb adams" ] RE: this year's Rock & Roll Hall of Fame inductees ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: this year's Rock & Roll Hall of Fame inductees [Miles Goosens ] Yikes! [Eb ] Re: He's A Rebel [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: just for Steve T..... [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] RE: He's A Rebel ["Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" ] RE: short and sweet ["FS Thomas" ] RE: short and sweet [Dolph Chaney ] Re: Yikes! [Capuchin ] RE: Yikes! ["FS Thomas" ] MJ ["Maximilian Lang" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:07:28 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Show your Voyager pride At 03:42 PM 11/20/2003 -0500, UglyNoraGrrl@aol.com wrote: >I couldn't agree more. I loved Barclay. He was my favorite character on >Next Generation after Picard. I was nice to see a normal dork on the >Enterprise. I was really excited when Barclay showed up in First >Contact. Plus he was played by the Murdock from the A-Team. Also I >believe a fellow feg has a Barclay action figure. Bubbles is my favorite Power Puff Girl, if anyone cares. - --Jason "Kirk was cool, but everyone else was an asshole" Thornton "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:18:06 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: re: neelixmaniax-digest V12 #429 On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Rex.Broome wrote: > The mention of Voyager almost caused a cross-list mention of the Upright > Citizen Brigade's Telethon to Save Little Donnie and His Enormous Penis. > Oh, look, now it has done so. See, 'cause Little Donnie was obsessed > with Tuvok for some reason. A few clarifying remarks re my ST:V experience: for whatever reason, a group of us got together every whatever-night-of-the-week-that-was to watch it and consume irresponsible foods and beverages. After a while it was more like a live episode of MST3K (except none of us were robots. As far as I know.). But we stopped watching the end of the season before Incongruously Sexy Borg Gal debuted, so anything after that - with the exception of the series finale, which for some reason caused our reconvening - is as obscure to me as the varied oeuvre of Jonathan Brandis. Anyway: Neelix - deeply, intensely annoying. Kes - pretty annoying, but cute. Janeway - Eh. Chakote - annoying, but in a very different way that's more tolerable. Paris - deeply annoying - although he was such a twit that it was almost fun. The only ST:V character mentioned in the ST-oriented toast I gave at a friend of mine's wedding a year back (he was among the regular watchers). Harry - kept getting kidnapped for the first two seasons, amusingly. The Doctor - rocked. Anyone else - has been utterly forgotten. (I actually have an audio file of that wedding toast, which compared the groom to any number of ST characters...) - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::No man is an island. ::But if you take a bunch of dead guys and tie 'em together, ::they make a pretty good raft. __Max Cannon__ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:21:44 -0800 From: Eb Subject: this year's Rock & Roll Hall of Fame inductees [quoted from press release] Jackson Browne -- For more than three decades, Jackson Browne has been one of rock's consummate singer-songwriters. Writing intricately crafted, deeply personal songs, he made his mark as a master chronicler of the affairs of the heart. The Dells -- The Dells began recording in 1953 and still perform today with virtually all original members. They have performed and charted in every decade since the Fifties, making them one of the most influential vocal groups of all time. George Harrison -- Post-Beatles, George Harrison's career spanned three decades during which he not only furthered his artistry as a musician, songwriter, and producer (of music and numerous films), but as a humanitarian on the world stage. Prince - Self-produced since his debut at age 20, Prince is one of the most unpredictable as well as one of the most magnificently charismatic figures in the entire pop landscape. His fusion of rock, funk, soul, metal and punk has defied all stereotypes. Bob Seger - Detroit's standard-bearer of rock and soul began his multi-platinum streak in 1975, followed by a decade of nearly 20 consecutive top 40 singles, all of which celebrated Bob Seger's allegiance to and love affair with the music that provided his escape from an impoverished childhood. Traffic -- Nurtured in the communal flush of the British Invasion, Traffic outgrew its psychedelic pop roots to become a true fusion group - melding a folk-inspired simplicity with bluesy jazz improv that was given plenty of space on its extended compositions. ZZ Top -- With the Texas soul, outlaw boogie, and souped-up hot rod funk served up by the durable power trio of Billy Gibbons, Dusty Hill and Frank Beard - ZZ Top - is literally the last word in rock. Three-plus decades on, these Funky Kings might just go on forever. - ------- Are the inductees already dipping in quality, as the number of candidates dwindles? Seger and ZZ Top are kinda second-rate acts, Harrison's solo career was really spotty and I don't know if Traffic is all that "important" (even though I'm personally a fan). (As I predicted, the Harrison blurb implies he received the honor as much for The Concert for Bangladesh as for his actual music.) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:23:46 EST From: HSatterfld@aol.com Subject: Re: Mood Swing (was wine flesh tuxedo etc.) Tom Clark said <> Yes, every band who ever had a hit song has a website and is dreaming of a comeback. Martika, for example, is recording a comeback album. Nevertheless, the first two Nails albums (and their "Hotel for Women" EP) are worth a listen if you like "88 Lines". Hollie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:25:31 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: notes to Eddie's notes (re. Croc show) On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Natalie Jacobs wrote: > Also - that's John Ramberg, not Wilco bassist John Stirratt. Jane would've > told me if John Stirratt had been there, as we are both rather fond of him. > (He's the one who said my tinfoil sculptures were "phenomenal" - what's not > to love?) He must officially be The Cute One in Wilco, right? Because, to judge from IATTBYH, everyone else looks like a wino rolled out of an alley dumpster. I thought it was intensely amusing to see the signing of the Nonesuch contract: I'm sure those folks are used to having their talent show up looking indistinguishable from the guy who offered to squeegee their car on the way to work, but it was still pretty damned funny. Coming, this Fall: a line of Jeff Tweedy-inspired high-couture parkas. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ::glibby glop gloopy nibby nobby noopy la la la la lo:: ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:30:51 -0600 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: neelixmaniax-digest V12 #429 > From: "Rex.Broome" > Subject: re: neelixmaniax-digest V12 #429 > > Oh, wait, that's the other "Star ****" franchise dead set on utter > unwatchability these days. OK, listen up and listen good, foo. Star Wars is just a movie. Star Trek is real. Get it? OK, good. And besides, Barclay could have kicked Aunt Beru's ass easily. ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:33:02 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: this year's Rock & Roll Hall of Fame inductees On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Eb wrote: > [quoted from press release] > > Jackson Browne -- For more than three decades, Jackson Browne has > been one of rock's consummate singer-songwriters. Writing > intricately crafted, deeply personal songs, he made his mark as a > master chronicler of the affairs of the heart. Just ask Darryl Hannah. > The Dells -- The Dells began recording in 1953 and still perform > today with virtually all original members. They have performed and > charted in every decade since the Fifties, making them one of the > most influential vocal groups of all time. Plus, they went on to form a dominant company in the computer industry. > George Harrison -- Post-Beatles, George Harrison's career spanned > three decades during which he not only furthered his artistry as a > musician, songwriter, and producer (of music and numerous films), but > as a humanitarian on the world stage. This year's Honorary Death nominee. > Prince - Self-produced since his debut at age 20, Prince is one of > the most unpredictable as well as one of the most magnificently > charismatic figures in the entire pop landscape. His fusion of rock, > funk, soul, metal and punk has defied all stereotypes. No snarky comment here - he actually deserves it. > Bob Seger - Detroit's standard-bearer of rock and soul began his > multi-platinum streak in 1975, followed by a decade of nearly 20 > consecutive top 40 singles, all of which celebrated Bob Seger's > allegiance to and love affair with the music that provided his escape > from an impoverished childhood. Ohforchrissakes. I've always said Bob Seger's entire career could disappear entirely, and the whole world, including its music, would be exactly the same - except Tom Cruise would have to slide around in his socks to someone else's lame-ass song. That "2+2" song is okay, though. > Traffic -- Nurtured in the communal flush of the British Invasion, > Traffic outgrew its > psychedelic pop roots to become a true fusion group - melding a > folk-inspired simplicity with bluesy jazz improv that was given > plenty of space on its extended compositions. That's kind of a left-field one...not sure if they deserve it, but I'll give it the nod for being relatively obscure (no one even thinks of Steve Winwood any more). > ZZ Top -- With the Texas soul, outlaw boogie, and souped-up hot rod > funk served up by the durable power trio of Billy Gibbons, Dusty Hill > and Frank Beard - ZZ Top - is literally the last word in rock. > Three-plus decades on, these Funky Kings might just go on forever. Eh. Deserves mention because the one guy wihtout the beard is *named* Beard, ha-ha-ha. Apparently their very earliest stuff is kinda interesting in a vaguely jazzy, blues-rock way. > ------- > Are the inductees already dipping in quality, as the number of > candidates dwindles? Haven't they been dipping for years? It seemed clear several years ago that nearly anyone who's had one or two major hits and is still played on oldies stations will be inducted. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::I'M ONLY AS LARGE AS AN ANT AND I'M HIDING INSIDE YOUR CAR:: __cryptic placemat phrase, Madison WI, 1986__ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:52:00 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: gonna sink you with my wine flesh tuxedo Michael Godwin: >>* I only know 'Painter Man' (which was a near-hit in the UK) and 'Makin' >>Time' (?). Is the rest any good? I always recommend The Sorrows to people >>who like The Creation. "How Does It Feel to Feel" is absolutely ace, better by a hair's breadth than either tune above. Jeff D: >>I just wish I had spelled "reap" backwards correctly. >>Instead, I was just mention the best flavor of >>Jellybelly. Hmm, is that Universal Feg Opinion? Because I certainly agree with it. Pear Jellybellys rool OK. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:46:00 -0800 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: He's A Rebel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:54:09 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Show your Voyager pride At 01:07 PM 11/20/2003 -0800, Jason R. Thornton wrote: >At 03:42 PM 11/20/2003 -0500, UglyNoraGrrl@aol.com wrote: > >>I couldn't agree more. I loved Barclay. He was my favorite character on >>Next Generation after Picard. I was nice to see a normal dork on the >>Enterprise. I was really excited when Barclay showed up in First >>Contact. Plus he was played by the Murdock from the A-Team. Also I >>believe a fellow feg has a Barclay action figure. > >Bubbles is my favorite Power Puff Girl, if anyone cares. Voiced by the gorgeous Tara Strong (nee Chernoff), who really ought to be in front of a camera more often. Incidentally, she's also the voice of Rikku in FINAL FANTASY X and the just-released FINAL FANTASY X-2, among many, many other voice work credits. later, Miles p.s.: latter-day STAR TREK takes... DS9: still my favorite cast, and it took a few smart cues from BABYLON 5, going about as dark and conflicted as Gene Rodenberry's limitations on the ST franchise would allow. However, Avery Brooks was the Worst. Captain. Ever. "I am in a SCIENCE FICTION story and must SAY EVERYTHING with ENORMOUS EMOTIONLESS GRAVITAS." But everyone else made up for it. Plus Evil Kira was totally yummy (see also "Dark Willow"). VOYAGER: Gave up on it about the same time as Jeff, though I might have stuck with it if I'd had a group to MST3K it with. I never could judge the acting very well because the scripts were so atrocious. My friend in Vandy's NROTC unit, the Lieutenant who was the 4th Class (i.e., freshman) Advisor, discussed it every week -- we agreed about the writing, and he had serious problems with its depiction of command and management strategies, which allowed us a more robust critique. ENTERPRISE: Gave up on it after three episodes -- it made VOYAGER seem like MACBETH by comparison. Plus it had the Worst. Theme. Song. Ever. I mean, after I heard that Dianne Warren turd, the formerly incredibly annoying theme to THE KING OF QUEENS sounded like a breath of fresh air. Surprisingly, the only acting being done in this cast was being done by Jolene Blalock, whom I'd grievously underestimated as That Year's Jeri Ryan. In fact, the only conceivably interesting plot would have been for Blalock's T'Pol to kill all those stupid-ass "lovably impetuous" human beings on the ship. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:58:01 -0700 From: "cmb adams" Subject: Re: He's A Naked Rebel On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:46:00 -0800, Glen Uber wrote > when I saw the headling earlier about "phil spector to be tried to murder", my first thought was that it had something to do with the Long and Winding Road. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:58:09 -0700 From: "cmb adams" Subject: Re: He's A Naked Rebel On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:46:00 -0800, Glen Uber wrote > when I saw the headline earlier about "phil spector to be tried to murder", my first thought was that it had something to do with the Long and Winding Road. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:14:37 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: this year's Rock & Roll Hall of Fame inductees > Bob Seger - Detroit's standard-bearer of rock and soul began his > multi-platinum streak in 1975, followed by a decade of nearly 20 > consecutive top 40 singles, all of which celebrated Bob Seger's > allegiance to and love affair with the music that provided his escape > from an impoverished childhood. Spending most of my teenage years up in the Detroit 'burbs in the late 60's early 70's, Bob Seger (from Ann Arbor) was always considered a secondary rock act compared to the the other locals like the MC5, The Stooges, The Frost(Dick Wagner's band, he later played with Lou Reed and Alice Cooper), SRC (Detroit's version of Quicksilver Messenger Service) and even Grand Funk. It seemed like with demise of these bands by the mid 1970's, he was suddenly vaulted to the forefront locally and then went big nationwide in the late 70's. I always considered him meat and potatoes blue collar rock and roll. I guess we can expect Uriah Heep in the Hall of Fame any year now. Michael B. NP Jefferson Airplane After Bathing at Baxter's ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:15:52 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: wine flesh tuxedo etc. Eb wrote: > > > The Best of Creation (from hilariously bad to > rockin' to some real wit) > > > >* I only know 'Painter Man' (which was a near-hit > in the UK) and 'Makin' > >Time' (?). Is the rest any good? > > Well, "How Does It Feel to Feel?" was good enough to > get covered by the Godfathers and Ride.... And Teenage Fanclub covered "Try and Stop Me" (if it's on there). ===== "Senator John McCain recently compared the situation in Iraq to the Vietnam era -- to which President Bush replied, 'What does Iraq have in common with drinking beer in Texas?'" -- Craig Kilborn "I don't think the Bush administration lied to us about Iraq. I think it's worse than that. I think they fooled themselves. I think they were conned by Ahmad Chalabi. I think they indulged in wishful thinking to a point of near criminality. I think they decided anyone who didn't agree with them was an enemy, anti-American, disloyal. In other words, I think they're criminally stupid." -- Molly Ivins __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:24:47 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: this year's Rock & Roll Hall of Fame inductees At 03:33 PM 11/20/2003 -0600, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: >On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Eb wrote: > >> [quoted from press release] >> >> Jackson Browne -- For more than three decades, Jackson Browne has >> been one of rock's consummate singer-songwriters. Writing >> intricately crafted, deeply personal songs, he made his mark as a >> master chronicler of the affairs of the heart. > >Just ask Darryl Hannah. I'm wondering if there's something about Daryl Hannah that makes guys want to hit her? Not that it's ever been verified that anyone did, and not to say that it's justified in any way if it did happen, but it seems like all of her breakups come with rumors of guys socking her. Maybe she's got a gift for pushing the right buttons in the big breakup fight! Incidentally, I've always thought that she was a near-inept actress, but when we watched DANCING AT THE BLUE IGUANA on a Netflix rental a couple of months ago, she gave one of the most fully-inhabited film performances that I've ever seen anyone do. Really.* Can anyone name a Jackson Browne song after... oh, "Somebody's Baby," which itself really isn't worth remembering? Definitely second-tier, though I still think fondly of LATE FOR THE SKY and THE PRETENDER. >> Prince - Self-produced since his debut at age 20, Prince is one of >> the most unpredictable as well as one of the most magnificently >> charismatic figures in the entire pop landscape. His fusion of rock, >> funk, soul, metal and punk has defied all stereotypes. > >No snarky comment here - he actually deserves it. Yup. Lucky for him, he actually had hits and sold records, or he'd likely be on the outside too. >> Bob Seger - Detroit's standard-bearer of rock and soul began his >> multi-platinum streak in 1975, followed by a decade of nearly 20 >> consecutive top 40 singles, all of which celebrated Bob Seger's >> allegiance to and love affair with the music that provided his escape >> from an impoverished childhood. > >Ohforchrissakes. I've always said Bob Seger's entire career could >disappear entirely, and the whole world, including its music, would be >exactly the same - except Tom Cruise would have to slide around in his >socks to someone else's lame-ass song. That "2+2" song is okay, though. You're right about Seger not changing the course of music, but Seger was once upon a time a nice success story, the local Detroit good-guy rocker who'd persevered and made it big, and there's enough decent stuff in his catalog through STRANGER IN TOWN to make a pretty good "best of" collection. But boy, he's been a Willing Tool of the Devil since then, hasn't he? >> Traffic -- Nurtured in the communal flush of the British Invasion, >> Traffic outgrew its >> psychedelic pop roots to become a true fusion group - melding a >> folk-inspired simplicity with bluesy jazz improv that was given >> plenty of space on its extended compositions. > >That's kind of a left-field one...not sure if they deserve it, but I'll >give it the nod for being relatively obscure (no one even thinks of Steve >Winwood any more). Hey, we do, 'cos he lives here! Nashville is the Elephant's Graveyard of old rock 'n' rollers. >> ZZ Top -- With the Texas soul, outlaw boogie, and souped-up hot rod >> funk served up by the durable power trio of Billy Gibbons, Dusty Hill >> and Frank Beard - ZZ Top - is literally the last word in rock. >> Three-plus decades on, these Funky Kings might just go on forever. > >Eh. Deserves mention because the one guy wihtout the beard is *named* >Beard, ha-ha-ha. Apparently their very earliest stuff is kinda interesting >in a vaguely jazzy, blues-rock way. I've always liked them, though I don't recall "vaguely jazzy" ever applying, even before they discovered synths and videos and started having hit singles. I think they've always known just what they're about, which is big three-chord blues songs about getting laid. They've also been more funny and surreal than their hit singles would have led the casual listener to think. Again, I'm not saying they're the best band ever, or even the 200th best band ever, but they're still darn good at what they do, and I like 'em. >> ------- >> Are the inductees already dipping in quality, as the number of >> candidates dwindles? > >Haven't they been dipping for years? It seemed clear several years ago >that nearly anyone who's had one or two major hits and is still played on >oldies stations will be inducted. So they're getting the Corey Hart plaque ready, then? later, Miles *DANCING AT THE BLUE IGUANA was totally improvised by its cast, and it's not exactly Cassavettes either, and Cassavettes could be tedious stuff too, so, um, you're warned. It also forces Sandra Oh into an "I Hate Your Sexy Job!" romance with a Sensitive Poetry Guy who has Joey Slotnick-pattern baldness. On the other hand, its female leads (Hannah, Oh, Jennifer Tilly, L.A. LAW's Sheila Kelly, and Charlotte Ayana) are, um, naked. A lot. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:47:30 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: tara, tah-rah I misremembered Tara Strong's maiden name -- "Charendoff," not "Chernoff." Steve Schiavo and others may also be interested to know that she did the baby's voice in the U.S. dub of SPIRITED AWAY, as well as a number of voices in the U.S. dub of PRINCESS MONONOKE. I also spied a Totoro on something I watched this week... possibly an UPRIGHT CITIZENS BRIGADE episode. Oh, and Barclay's just all right with me. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:20:54 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Yikes! Pardon if this information has already been posted via a weblink, but did folks know that Brandis *hung* himself? Grisly! :( Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:52:58 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: He's A Rebel Quoting Glen Uber : > What have the last two days taught us? That it's very unlikely that Phil Spector will be producing the next Michael Jackson album. Unless they do it in the big house - maybe get Jim Gordon on drums? (unless he's dead...) ..Jeff, realizing he's inadvertently started "Infamous Rock Felons" as a thread... J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: we make everything you need, and you need everything we make :: ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:56:46 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: just for Steve T..... Quoting Eb : > Our Lady Heidi Klum appeared on the Conan O'Brien show (NBC) last > night blah-blah-blah... What? Where are the bizarre, farfetched amateur numerology exercises? Where are the attempts to include his own family in the lives of the celebrity and in the divine workings of the universe? His meds must be working. A little better, anyway. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: we make everything you need, and you need everything we make :: ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:57:55 -0800 From: "Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" Subject: RE: He's A Rebel Jeffrey > Quoting Glen Uber : > > > http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/11/20/spector.charges/index.html > > What have the last two days taught us? > > That it's very unlikely that Phil Spector will be producing the next > Michael Jackson album. I think Kobe Bryant is feeling relieved. The celebrity trial frenzy will be spread around a bit more now. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:04:58 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: just for Steve T..... > > Our Lady Heidi Klum appeared on the Conan O'Brien show (NBC) last >> night blah-blah-blah... > >What? Where are the bizarre, farfetched amateur numerology >exercises? Where are >the attempts to include his own family in the lives of the celebrity >and in the >divine workings of the universe? > >His meds must be working. A little better, anyway. Actually, I've noticed the same thing: His recent posts haven't been quite so nutty. Beyond the gratuitous usage of "Angel Heidi," "Our Lady Heidi," etc., his posts haven't been particularly bizarre lately. Just "horny." Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:58:30 -0500 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: RE: short and sweet > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf > Of Jim Davies > > I am always amazed at how little Americans drink. I'm amazed at how much *more* I do since moving to Atlanta. I would write it off to escapism, but it just seems the thing to do down here. - -ferris. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:04:48 -0600 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: RE: short and sweet At 06:58 PM 11/20/2003, FS Thomas wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On >Behalf > > Of Jim Davies > > > > I am always amazed at how little Americans drink. > >I'm amazed at how much *more* I do since moving to Atlanta. I would >write it off to escapism, but it just seems the thing to do down here. Ferris, I think it's more like Atlanta's a town of alcohol extremes. If you're not a yuppie fundamentalist teetotaler, you're somehow compelled to make up the balance. I think you've picked the correct end of the pendulum. :) - -- dolph ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:19:32 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Yikes! On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Eb wrote: > Pardon if this information has already been posted via a weblink, but > did folks know that Brandis *hung* himself? > > Grisly! :( Can that possibly be right? I recall early reports saying that it was suspected suicide and there was no obvious sign of trauma on the body... the first thing I read suspected inhalants that might be used for "pleasurable" asphyxiation. Was that misread? Or does the press release merely skew the truth? ...trying to find that notice... J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:21:39 -0500 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: RE: Yikes! > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf > Of Capuchin > > Can that possibly be right? I recall early reports saying that it was > suspected suicide and there was no obvious sign of trauma on the body... > the first thing I read suspected inhalants that might be used for > "pleasurable" asphyxiation. Well, you know Michael Hutchins' death was a "pleasurable" asphyxiation... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:29:03 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: MJ http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/mjmug1.html Did anyone see the Jackson mug shot? 5'11" and 120 lbs! For fuck sake, now we know the guy has more than one serious problem. Max _________________________________________________________________ Set yourself up for fun at home! Get tips on home entertainment equipment, video game reviews, and more here. http://special.msn.com/home/homeent.armx ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #431 ********************************