From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #420 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, November 11 2003 Volume 12 : Number 420 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Glostering Across the Flagstones ["Rex.Broome" ] Oh, and Pop Rocks [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Glosterisation [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Glosterisation [Eb ] Q's for RH ["The Mammal Brain" ] Re: Q's for RH ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: Feggy Comp: Where It's At ["Grunty" ] RE: Feggy Comp: Where It's At ["Brian Huddell" ] Re: Feggy Comp: Where It's At ["Grunty" ] How very...not-fascinating [Eb ] Post-vocalist rock [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Glosterisation ["Matt Sewell" ] Re: Glosterisation [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Glosterisation ["Matt Sewell" ] Re: Glosterisation [Michael R Godwin ] reap ["Stewart C. Russell" ] New Robyn bit torrent [fingerpuppets ] Phono strobe disk? Cartridge opinions? [rosso@videotron.ca] RE: Glostering Across the Flagstones [Sweet & Tender Hooligan ] Re: reap [Eb ] Re: reap ["Stewart C. Russell" ] REAP [Tom Clark ] Re: REAP ["Maximilian Lang" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:24:53 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Glostering Across the Flagstones The Mammal Brain wrote: > so, have screened 24 Hour Party People. could take it or leave it. > but, at one point it was posited that no band can survive the death > of itslead singer. the only counter-example i can think of is AC/DC. > there must be at least a few others? Er, Manic Street Preachers. Probably. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:12:10 -0800 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: Re: Glostering Across the Flagstones This one time at band camp, Rex.Broome wrote: >The Mammal Brain wrote: >> so, have screened 24 Hour Party People. could take it or leave it. >> but, at one point it was posited that no band can survive the death >> of itslead singer. the only counter-example i can think of is AC/DC. >> there must be at least a few others? > >Er, Manic Street Preachers. Probably. The Beatles. That Paul dude died in 1966, right? - -g- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:33:41 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: RE: Glostering Across the Flagstones Glen: >>The Beatles. That Paul dude died in 1966, right? Heh... my coworker recently was looking at some headlines that proclaimed "Paul McCartney a Dad Again", and he at first misread it as "Paul McCartney Dead Again", which is especially funny when you consider that Paul is one of the few people about whom that headline will one day be somewhat accurate. Must be some other people famously thought dead who weren't... can't think of any, though. - -Rex - -----Original Message----- From: Glen Uber [mailto:apostrophe@cruxofthebiscuit.com] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:12 PM To: Rex.Broome; Oppressive Udders Subject: Re: Glostering Across the Flagstones This one time at band camp, Rex.Broome wrote: >The Mammal Brain wrote: >> so, have screened 24 Hour Party People. could take it or leave it. >> but, at one point it was posited that no band can survive the death >> of itslead singer. the only counter-example i can think of is AC/DC. >> there must be at least a few others? > >Er, Manic Street Preachers. Probably. The Beatles. That Paul dude died in 1966, right? - -g- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:28:52 -0800 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: RE: Glostering Across the Flagstones This one time at band camp, Rex.Broome wrote: >Must be some other people famously thought dead who weren't... can't think >of any, though. Mark Twain. Remember the "Rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated" thing? - -g- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:52:44 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: RE: Glostering Across the Flagstones Glen: >>Mark Twain. Remember the "Rumors of my demise have been greatly >>exaggerated" thing? Oh yeah... and Mikey from the Life Cereal commercials. Yes, we are drifting from the musical realm, but at least Mikey's alleged death involved something called "pop rocks". - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:44:17 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: RE: Glostering Across the Flagstones "Rex.Broome" wrote: > Glen: > >>Mark Twain. Remember the "Rumors of my demise have > been greatly > >>exaggerated" thing? > > Oh yeah... and Mikey from the Life Cereal > commercials. Yes, we are drifting > from the musical realm, but at least Mikey's alleged > death involved > something called "pop rocks". Jerry Mathers, and a few other child stars from the '60s, were rumored to have died in Vietnam. Joe DiMaggio was announced as dead during a Dateline NBC that he himself was watching (it was during an interview with some comedian who, when asked about that later, said that his first reaction was that had to weird for Joe, and his second was "Joe was watching me?"). ===== "Senator John McCain recently compared the situation in Iraq to the Vietnam era -- to which President Bush replied, 'What does Iraq have in common with drinking beer in Texas?'" - -- Craig Kilborn __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:47:02 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Oh, and Pop Rocks "Rex.Broome" wrote: > Mikey's alleged death involved > something called "pop rocks". Pop rocks were these carbonated (I think) little globs of flavored sugar that, when you put them on your tongue, "popped" as you ate them. The rumor about Mikey's death was that he ate pop rocks while drinking a coke, causing his stomach to explode, presumably from all the carbonation. ===== "Senator John McCain recently compared the situation in Iraq to the Vietnam era -- to which President Bush replied, 'What does Iraq have in common with drinking beer in Texas?'" - -- Craig Kilborn __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:53:00 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Glosterisation >so, have screened 24 Hour Party People. could take it or leave it. but, >at one point it was posited that no band can survive the death of its lead >singer. the only counter-example i can think of is AC/DC. there must be >at least a few others? Several have stumbled on: The Doors, INXS, and The Crickets spring to mind. Special mention must go to Fairport Convention, who kept going after replacing their lead singer, who then died. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:57:04 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Glosterisation >Special mention must go to Fairport Convention, who kept going after >replacing their lead singer, who then died. Was SD still in the group when she died, though? Lon Chaney rocks, Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:37:43 -0800 From: "The Mammal Brain" Subject: Q's for RH robyn will be appearing on KEXP at 2:00 on friday. the dj just now solicited questions for him, so knock yourselves out: . here's what i've submitted: - --what is the status of the novel? why not release it via Editions PAF!? - --how about a deluxe Storefront Hitchcock DVD? hitchcock/demme commentary a must. also footage (or at least audio) of all four concerts, start-to-finish. - --when to open up the vaults and release some rarities? maureen and the meatpackers recordings, say. or the compleat live egyptians experience. - --request for saturday night: You've Got To Hide Your Love Away. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:17:17 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: Q's for RH >From: "The Mammal Brain" >Subject: Q's for RH >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:37:43 -0800 >robyn will be appearing on KEXP at 2:00 on friday. the dj just now >solicited questions for him, so knock yourselves out: . Mine: Does Robyn forsee himself recording and or touring with a band again? Max _________________________________________________________________ Compare high-speed Internet plans, starting at $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:48:05 -0500 From: "Grunty" Subject: Re: Feggy Comp: Where It's At this sounds very cool, since i'm new it's the first i've heard of it. but i'd love to have a copy if i am allowed, i mean, being new and causing so much trouble and all.............lol ; ) Grunty gruntydawarthawg@verizon.net > The submissions are in... it's now an issue of sequencing and mastering and > whatnot. Great stuff from everybody... this should be a fun record with > some guaranteed surprises. > > So like I said, I lost a lot of e-mail and addresses over the past week, > although in terms of notes and bios and stuff I think I'd stashed it all in > a safe place already. However... if Hamish, Luther, and Mike Godwin could > contact me, I have a couple of things to work out with your tunes before we > go to the "presses". > > Also, as an annoying side effect of the e-mail purge, I'll need to > re-collect snail mail addy's from everyone who wants a copy. But we'll burn > that bridge when we get to it. > > In any case, I still expect to be able to roll out the final product within > a month. It's been a lot of fun putting it together and I'm eager for you > all to hear the results. > > -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:08:54 -0600 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: Feggy Comp: Where It's At Grunty: > this sounds very cool, since i'm new it's the first i've heard of it. In addition to the soon-to-be-very-cool originals comp that Rex is putting together, you might also want to check out Bayard's already-very-cool Glass Flesh comps of RH covers: http://www.glasshotel.net/glassflesh/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:38:44 -0500 From: "Grunty" Subject: Re: Feggy Comp: Where It's At oh yes i have both of these! and yes they are very cool, can't wait to hear what Rex is putting together! : ) Grunty gruntydawarthawg@verizon.net > In addition to the soon-to-be-very-cool originals comp that Rex is putting > together, you might also want to check out Bayard's already-very-cool Glass > Flesh comps of RH covers: > > http://www.glasshotel.net/glassflesh/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:38:34 -0800 From: Eb Subject: How very...not-fascinating Possibly minus an overlooked EP track or two, every song title I own which contains "I Love You": The straight item: Beat Happening - "I Love You" Sarah McLachlan - "I Love You" Spacemen 3 - "I Love You" The Rutles - "I Love You" Lou Reed - "I Love You" [plus the same song as a VU demo] Van Morrison - "I Love You" [outtake, later retitled "The Smile You Smile"] With a slight twist: The Beatles - "P.S. I Love You" Blackgirls - "The I Love You Song" Epic Soundtracks - "Baby I Love You" The Doors - "Hello, I Love You" Mark Lanegan - "I Love You Little Girl" Todd Rundgren - "La La Means I Love You" [enclosed in a medley] Marc Ribot - "I'm Confessin' (That I Love You)" Tentative: The Partridge Family - "I Think I Love You" Buffalo Springfield - "Sit Down I Think I Love You" The Mojo Men - "Sit Down I Think I Love You" Mick Harvey - "I Love You...Nor Do I" Going specific: Butthole Surfers - "I Love You Peggy" Luna - "Tracy I Love You" Sinead O'Connor - "John I Love You" Sonic Youth & Cypress Hill - "I Love You Mary Jane" Going non-specific: Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young - "Everybody I Love You" Self-esteem issues: Ween - "Don't Laugh (I Love You)" Silly: Captain Beefheart - "I Love You, You Big Dummy" Magazine - "I Love You, You Big Dummy" The Dickies - "Eep Opp Ork Ah-Ah (Means I Love You)" Violent Femmes - "Eep Opp Ork Ah-Ah (Means I Love You)" Bobby Goldsboro - "Me Japanese Boy I Love You" A sour spin: Kate Bush - "Why Should I Love You?" Snakefinger - "I Love You Too Much to Respect You" Stevie Wonder - "I Love You Too Much" Robyn Hitchcock - "I Used to Say I Love You" There's just gotta be something resonant about this compendium, but damned if I can figure out what it is. Semi-wistfully, Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:45:25 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Post-vocalist rock > > so, have screened 24 Hour Party People. could take it or leave it. > > but, at one point it was posited that no band can survive the death > > of itslead singer. the only counter-example i can think of is AC/DC. > > there must be at least a few others? On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Sweet & Tender Hooligan wrote: > I'm not all that familiar with the band, but didn't Lynrd Skynrd (or > whatever) survive this particular problem? And what about Joy > Division/New Order? Do they not count because of the name change? Little Feat certainly got a new vocalist in, but I haven't bothered to listen to any of their post-Lowell George records. The Sweet are still in business: although Brian Connelly dropped dead. Funeral pictures at: IIRC, Andy "we just haven't got a CLUUUUE what to do!" Scott took over on lead vocals And then there are all those editions of the Temptations. Eddie Kendricks and David Ruffin are dead, but I dare say the Tempts are still on the road. - Mike Godwin PS I worked out the Mark Wahlburg route before finding someone had got there before me. Curses curses... n.p. Dantalian's Chariot "The madman running through the fields" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:51:04 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: Glosterisation Blimey, The Doors' post-Jim stuff is like a car crash: horrible, upsetting, stomach-churning but strangely transfixing... *shudder* Cheers Matt >From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) > >at one point it was posited that no band can survive the death of its lead > >singer. the only counter-example i can think of is AC/DC. there must be > >at least a few others? > >Several have stumbled on: The Doors, INXS, and The Crickets spring to mind. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keep in touch whilst on the go - get selected Hotmail sent to your mobile phone. Click here for details. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:02:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Glosterisation On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Matt Sewell wrote: > Blimey, The Doors' post-Jim stuff is like a car crash: horrible, > upsetting, stomach-churning but strangely transfixing... *shudder* I thought they got Jimbo in on posthumous verse-recitation. You don't mean they got Manzarek to sing? Guk. - - MRG PS to Eb: How could you? After many years of not trying, I had managed to forget "Me Japanese boy I love you" (if you try to forget, you remember...). Now here it is back in its entire glutinous pukeworthiness. Full unmissable lyric at: n.p. "I try but I can't buy your Veteran's Day Poppy" (there is a guy outside on the parade blowing 'The last post' as I write this). MRG, 11am, 11/11/03 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:14:34 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: Glosterisation 'Fraid so - though the singing pales into insignificance in comparison with the writing and the music - Tree Trunk a good example: thoroughly shite. Cheers Matt >From: Michael R Godwin > >On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Matt Sewell wrote: > > Blimey, The Doors' post-Jim stuff is like a car crash: horrible, > > upsetting, stomach-churning but strangely transfixing... *shudder* > >I thought they got Jimbo in on posthumous verse-recitation. You don't mean >they got Manzarek to sing? Guk. > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Stay connected whilst on the move. Now you can get Hotmail sent directly to your mobile phone. Click here for details. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:47:18 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Glosterisation On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Matt Sewell wrote: > 'Fraid so - though the singing pales into insignificance in comparison > with the writing and the music - Tree Trunk a good example: thoroughly > shite. My brain flickered into life for a brief moment just now. Didn't Jess Roden (of the excitingly named Jess Roden Band) sing with the remnants of the Doors for a while, under a different band name? And wasn't Kevin Coyne, of all unlikely people, offered the job as well? - - Mike Godwin PS I always thought that Jess Roden should change his name to Jess Rodent and form a band with Rat Scabies ... n.p. Blue Oyster Cult "Roadhouse Blues", with guest guitarist Robbie Kreiger. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:49:33 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: reap Canaan Banana, first president of Zimbabwe. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:06:37 -0500 From: fingerpuppets Subject: New Robyn bit torrent - ----- Forwarded message from Christopher Carville ----- Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:00:29 -0500 From: "Christopher Carville" Subject: New Robyn bit torrent Hi all - Here is the first of what I hope will be many offers of shows from Robyn's recent tour. I have put this up as a bit torrent at: http://www.sharingthegroove.org/msgboard/attachment.php?s=&postid=194198 Please share your shows! More to come from me soon I hope. If you have broadband or dsl etc...and don't know bit torrent, it's easy. ANd this is a great one to learn bt. C Robyn Hitchcock October 28, 2003 Fletcher's Baltimore MD source: schoeps mk4v > schoeps vms02ib > sony sbm1 (oade preamp mod) @ 48k > sony tcd-d8 audio transfer: Conner CTD8000R-S - dat2wav 1.2 - sf4.5 (fades, tracking, downsample) - shntool - shn2k Robyn Hitchcock Fletcher's Baltimore, MD 10/28/03 1. Applause 2. Fletcher's Introduction 3. I'm Only You 4. Robyn Speaks 5. I've Got The Hots For You (with some changed lyrics) 6. Robyn Introduces... 7. Balloon Man 8. Robyn Introduces... 9. The Ghost In You 10. Coffee Talk 11. When I Was Dead 12. Tuning Up 13. Robyn Speaks 14. 1974 15. Ronald Reagan Talk 16. You Remind Me Of You 17. Tuning Up 18. Dylan's Harp Holder Talk 19. No, I Don't Remember Guilford 20. Old Man Talk 21. Uncorrected Personality Traits 22. Robyn Introduces... 23. Keep Finding Me 24. Sleeping With Your Devil Mask 25. Full Moon In My Soul ENCORE (Electric) 26. Guitar Buzz Talk 27. Raymond Chandler Evening 28. Introduction To... 29. I Often Dream Of Trains 30. Tuning Up 31. Robyn Speaks 32. You And Oblivion - ----- End forwarded message ----- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:28:40 -0500 From: rosso@videotron.ca Subject: Phono strobe disk? Cartridge opinions? Anyfeg know where I can get an image of a phono strobe disk? I scored a turntable in a garage sale last weekend, and I'd like to tune it up. Also, does anybody have an opinion on the Grado gold cartridge/stylus? That price range is about what I can afford. My last cartridge was a V15 type III. (OK, actually a B&O thingy, but the B&O died and probably would cost too much to fix) Please write me offlist; I'm unsubbed! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:41:39 -0700 From: Sweet & Tender Hooligan Subject: RE: Glostering Across the Flagstones > Oh yeah... and Mikey from the Life Cereal commercials. > Yes, we are drifting from the musical realm, but at least > Mikey's alleged death involved something called "pop rocks". Josh Saviano, who played Paul Pfeiffer on "The Wonder Years," was rumored to have become Marilyn Manson, which would be a death of sorts. = s&th hooligan@apostate.com www.jaquelinerose.com "To me, fat guys are like the chirping canaries in the mine shaft of freedom." - Dennis Miller ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:37:54 -0500 From: rosso@videotron.ca Subject: Found the strobe; how about the cartridge? Belay that; I found an image of one online. That's what I had been trying to do for the last half hour or so. Here 'tis: http://www.extremephono.com/ftp/60Hz.PDF I'm still curious about alternatives to the Grado for about $150- 175US. Suggestions have to be cartridges I can actually find and buy in Canada or the US. The application is strictly hifi, not this DJ/scratch crap I'm seeing in the music shops lately. As before, please reply offline. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:59:16 -0800 From: "Brian" Subject: Re: How very...not-fascinating Not to mention the Dandy Warhols: "I Love You" allmusic.com lists 1014 songs that are named "I Love You." On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:38:34 -0800, "Eb" said: > Possibly minus an overlooked EP track or two, every song title I own > which contains "I Love You": > > The straight item: > Beat Happening - "I Love You" > Sarah McLachlan - "I Love You" > Spacemen 3 - "I Love You" > The Rutles - "I Love You" > Lou Reed - "I Love You" [plus the same song as a VU demo] > Van Morrison - "I Love You" [outtake, later retitled "The Smile You > Smile"] > > With a slight twist: > The Beatles - "P.S. I Love You" > Blackgirls - "The I Love You Song" > Epic Soundtracks - "Baby I Love You" > The Doors - "Hello, I Love You" > Mark Lanegan - "I Love You Little Girl" > Todd Rundgren - "La La Means I Love You" [enclosed in a medley] > Marc Ribot - "I'm Confessin' (That I Love You)" > > Tentative: > The Partridge Family - "I Think I Love You" > Buffalo Springfield - "Sit Down I Think I Love You" > The Mojo Men - "Sit Down I Think I Love You" > Mick Harvey - "I Love You...Nor Do I" > > Going specific: > Butthole Surfers - "I Love You Peggy" > Luna - "Tracy I Love You" > Sinead O'Connor - "John I Love You" > Sonic Youth & Cypress Hill - "I Love You Mary Jane" > > Going non-specific: > Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young - "Everybody I Love You" > > Self-esteem issues: > Ween - "Don't Laugh (I Love You)" > > Silly: > Captain Beefheart - "I Love You, You Big Dummy" > Magazine - "I Love You, You Big Dummy" > The Dickies - "Eep Opp Ork Ah-Ah (Means I Love You)" > Violent Femmes - "Eep Opp Ork Ah-Ah (Means I Love You)" > Bobby Goldsboro - "Me Japanese Boy I Love You" > > A sour spin: > Kate Bush - "Why Should I Love You?" > Snakefinger - "I Love You Too Much to Respect You" > Stevie Wonder - "I Love You Too Much" > Robyn Hitchcock - "I Used to Say I Love You" > > There's just gotta be something resonant about this compendium, but > damned if I can figure out what it is. > > Semi-wistfully, > Eb - -- Brian nightshadecat@mailbolt.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:02:25 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: reap >Canaan Banana, first president of Zimbabwe. ...which undoubtedly means that I'll receive two or three emails tomorrow from representatives of his estate who need to transfer a large sum of his money to an American bank account, and are willing to give me an impressive percentage of the funds in exchange for my help. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:02:40 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: reap Eb wrote: > > >Canaan Banana, first president of Zimbabwe. > > ...which undoubtedly means that I'll receive two > or three emails tomorrow from representatives > of his estate ... I think I already have. I'm just waiting to get mail from the supposed widow of Kenyan foreign minister Robert Ouko as a 419 scam. Catherine and Grace were roomies at university, and a more honest soul you could not hope to find. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:32:59 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: REAP Art Carney, 85 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:36:15 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: REAP >From: Tom Clark >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: REAP >Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:32:59 -0800 >Art Carney, 85 A week to the day of the Honeymooners DVD release, no? Max _________________________________________________________________ Crave some Miles Davis or Grateful Dead? Your old favorites are always playing on MSN Radio Plus. Trial month free! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #420 ********************************