From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #419 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, November 10 2003 Volume 12 : Number 419 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Degrees of separation [crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com] Re: Degrees of separation [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: rotating puppy sculpture [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Non-news story of the year...a must-read! [Eb ] New verbs we'd like to see: to "Gloster" ["The Mammal Brain" ] Re: rotating puppy sculpture ["Grunty" ] Re: Oh yeah, and the Matrix [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: This calls for a very clever mixture of psychology and extreme violence ["Jason R. Thornton" ] RE: New verbs we'd like to see: to "Gloster" [Jeff Dwarf ] Robyn Hitchcock's dramatic debut? ["Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: Degrees of separation Quoting crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com: > PS. Just got an album by NY avant-gardist Elliot Sharp. He calls himself E# > in the credits. Which means if he duplicated himself, he'd be enharmonic with me! ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb :: --Batman ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:58:57 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: rotating puppy sculpture I typoed: >Anyone who's ever arranged a video ebvening This is where everyone sits around ehhing movies. >if Saddam is acceptable, is Grunty? only if no-one informs the Pentagon. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:33:14 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Non-news story of the year...a must-read! Kim wild about Kylie The Eye 10nov03 IN the '80s, Kim Wilde recorded classic pop songs such as Kids in America and Cambodia, so she could give today's stars a lesson or two. Speaking to The Eye, Wilde says she is a little disappointed with today's crop of starlets, especially Britney Spears. "Britney I've always been very disappointed by," she said. "I mean, she has never really delivered. She seems to be an amazing performer, but it kind of stops there. "She's a long, long, long, long way from being anything like Madonna, which she cleary aspires to be." Wilde, however, does have good things to say about our Kylie Minogue, who started having hits in Britain when Wilde's career was already well established. "I've always been a big Kylie fan," she said. "I love all the stuff she did with Stock, Aitken and Waterman. "Then she started to look very sexy and, for the most part, she's been making really fab records consistently. She's a really lovely thing, isn't she?" Wilde is in Melbourne tonight at Rod Laver Arena for the Here and Now tour, along with Belinda Carlise, the Human League, 1927, Go West, Paul Young and Mondo Rock. When she is back in Britain, Wilde's passions are her two children and gardening. This year, she had a surprise smash-hit single in Europe with fellow '80s star Nena, of 99 Luftballons fame. The song was called Anyplace, Anywhere, Anytime, and went to No. 1 in Germany, Austria and Switzerland. Wilde said she might record new songs. "I don't know if there's something for me to go with as an artist; there might be," she said. "At the moment, my passions are directed at my children and my gardening." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 17:47:43 -0800 From: "The Mammal Brain" Subject: New verbs we'd like to see: to "Gloster" hopefully my New Pornographers gushing isn't getting out of hand, but, the official website's now online. . so, have screened 24 Hour Party People. could take it or leave it. but, at one point it was posited that no band can survive the death of its lead singer. the only counter-example i can think of is AC/DC. there must be at least a few others? i notice that the minus 5 are to serve as robyn's backing band for the upcoming show at the crocodile. anybody else thinking, "Viva Sea-Tac III"? KEN "What price damnation?" THE KENSTER ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 21:04:29 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: New verbs we'd like to see: to "Gloster" The Mammal Brain wrote: > > so, have screened 24 Hour Party People. could take it or leave it. Mind you, it was so thick with UK pop-culture references that much of it might've been lost on an international audience. Favourite bits: - -- "See, I was being postmodern. That won't be popular for years." - -- The "Robinson Ryder" scene, complete with the correct music. - -- God telling a stoned Tony that Mick Hucknall "is still a ginger tosser, and his music's rubbage.". Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:52:11 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: New verbs we'd like to see: to "Gloster" >so, have screened 24 Hour Party People. could take it or leave it. but, >at one point it was posited that no band can survive the death of its lead >singer. the only counter-example i can think of is AC/DC. there must be >at least a few others? http://www.cabcalloway.com Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 22:20:49 -0500 From: "Grunty" Subject: Re: rotating puppy sculpture hehehehe ya'll could always give me a new nickname.......... : D Grunty Da Warthawg gruntydawarthawg@verizon.net > I typoed: > > >Anyone who's ever arranged a video ebvening > > This is where everyone sits around ehhing movies. > > >if Saddam is acceptable, is Grunty? > > only if no-one informs the Pentagon. > > James ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:51:01 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Oh yeah, and the Matrix - --On Freitag, 7. November 2003 15:40 Uhr -0800 Capuchin wrote: > On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: >> -- Capuchin is rumored to have mumbled on Freitag, >> 7. November 2003 13:24 Uhr -0800 regarding Re: Oh yeah, and the Matrix: >> > I was appalled that such horrible human mutilation was played for >> > humor. >> >> Did you read my post? > > I did, but had a different opinion. I assume that's OK with you. Sure. I was merely asking because to me it seemed as if you hadn't. >> I felt that way about Pulp Fiction, but Kill Bill was fine, because it >> *obviously* isn't taking itself seriously. > > I don't get that, really. > > I understand that the violence in Reservoir Dogs was OK because it was > played as foul and painful and carried appropriate weight and meaning. Right, that's what I meant. > In Pulp Fiction, it was played as cool and ladled gratuitously and carried > no weight whatsoever. But here, it's played as funny and ladled even more > gratuitously, but the motivations for the violence were ugly and hateful, > so how do you get the humor? I don't know, I react differently to these things based on my mood on any given day. All I can say is that in PF the situations were grotesque, but still close enough to reality to bother me. KB is so unrealistic that it didn't and doesn't. >> You don't have to like it, but to say that everybody who doesn't mind >> that kind of violence is insensitive goes too far. > > I watched Dead Or Alive, that ultra-violent Korean/Japanese flick. The > humor there was clear because the violence was both gratuitous and largely > unmotivated, so it was absurd and funny. That's exactly how I felt about Kill Bill. > In Kill Bill, the motivations make the violence "understandable" (you know > WHY they do what they do and it's played as an appropriate response in > that world) and that removes the absurdity and makes it really sick. I see what you mean. For whatever reason, it didn't affect me that way. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn PGP key ID: 0x4D105B45 Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156 50823 Kvln http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:57:49 -0700 From: Sweet & Tender Hooligan Subject: RE: New verbs we'd like to see: to "Gloster" > so, have screened 24 Hour Party People. could take it or leave it. > but, at one point it was posited that no band can survive the death > of itslead singer. the only counter-example i can think of is AC/DC. > there must be at least a few others? I'm not all that familiar with the band, but didn't Lynrd Skynrd (or whatever) survive this particular problem? And what about Joy Division/New Order? Do they not count because of the name change? = s&th hooligan@apostate.com www.jaquelinerose.com "To me, fat guys are like the chirping canaries in the mine shaft of freedom." - Dennis Miller ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:23:11 -0600 From: "Iosso, Ken" Subject: RE: The Matrix Max Lang: Amidst all the "arrogance" and "bullying"...has anyone actually seen the new Matrix sequel? I loved the first Matrix, didn't like the second and hated the third. It didn't make any sense. It was silly and melodramatic. It was godawful. I'm sorry that Mystery Science Theatre 3000 isn't around to rip it to shreds for some of the worst b-movie dialogue you could imagine. This may not be the last matrix but it's MY last matrix. Ken Iosso - -----Original Message----- From: Maximilian Lang [mailto:maximlang@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 6:52 PM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: The Matrix Amidst all the "arrogance" and "bullying"...has anyone actually seen the new Matrix sequel? I hear it's pretty bad but if you like the series it's worth seeing. Obviously if you invested your time in the first two you kinda get stuck with it, unless you just stopped caring one way or the other. Max _________________________________________________________________ Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:58:24 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: This calls for a very clever mixture of psychology and extreme violence At 04:41 PM 11/7/2003 -0800, Natalie Jacobs wrote: >The other reason I don't want to see Kill Bill is that I always hear it >being described as an "homage" to this and that. Jesus Christ, does >Tarantino do *anything* other than "homage"? Jackie Brown. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:41:51 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Allowable Feg Names Jeff D: >>You are allowed to call yourself anything you want, >>except for Osama, Adolf, George, or Britney. And, of course, please don't call yourself Reg; it's not your name. Although it's closer to my name than anyone else's, as I work it out. >>Diagnosed on New Year's Eve, so >>they gave me an outpatient IV because they wanted to >>keep as many beds empty in case of drunk driving >>accidents, etc, that night. I was only waylaid about a >>month, thankfully, but still felt weak from it >>periodically until around late March or so. Yeah. The deal was that they wouldn't let me fly back to California for a month or so, and no work for a month thereafter. Around June I tested my recovery on a bigass altitude hike in Mineral King. Felt great, and when we got down from the mountain we found out my wife was pregnant, so I called that a recovery. >>It was the perfect close to a truly horrible period {too horrible to paste here} Dude. That. Sucks. It's true: 1996 bit the big one, and hard. Had a pretty good year in '97, though. Jill: >>I want to know more about Robyn filming something in Tucson. Me too. How we glossed over that in favor of, like, whatever we got pissed off about instead is beyond me. Surely someone knows something more about this... and he's recording there as well, right? - -Rex, not really a sweeping implement PS Thanks to Daryl for the recenct delivery... lost a lot of e-mail & addresses here last week, so I don't have your actual address, but it was much appreciated. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:46:22 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: RE: New verbs we'd like to see: to "Gloster" Sweet & Tender Hooligan wrote: > > so, have screened 24 Hour Party People. could > take it or leave it. > > but, at one point it was posited that no band can > survive the death > > of itslead singer. the only counter-example i can > think of is AC/DC. > > there must be at least a few others? > > I'm not all that familiar with the band, but didn't > Lynrd Skynrd (or whatever) survive this particular > problem? Little Feat. And the tradition of self-named big bands touring after their founder's death was noted by Eb. A fair number of 50-60's r&b vocal groups. > And what about Joy Division/New Order? Do > they not count because of the name change? A lot of people probably don't because of that, and the NO more "danceable", even though it was a (afaic) a pretty natural progression that probably would have happened even had Ian not killed himself at least to some extent. I would say they should count as having survived a singer death though. ===== "Senator John McCain recently compared the situation in Iraq to the Vietnam era -- to which President Bush replied, 'What does Iraq have in common with drinking beer in Texas?'" - -- Craig Kilborn __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:06:07 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Feggy Comp: Where It's At The submissions are in... it's now an issue of sequencing and mastering and whatnot. Great stuff from everybody... this should be a fun record with some guaranteed surprises. So like I said, I lost a lot of e-mail and addresses over the past week, although in terms of notes and bios and stuff I think I'd stashed it all in a safe place already. However... if Hamish, Luther, and Mike Godwin could contact me, I have a couple of things to work out with your tunes before we go to the "presses". Also, as an annoying side effect of the e-mail purge, I'll need to re-collect snail mail addy's from everyone who wants a copy. But we'll burn that bridge when we get to it. In any case, I still expect to be able to roll out the final product within a month. It's been a lot of fun putting it together and I'm eager for you all to hear the results. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:50:23 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Robyn Hitchcock's dramatic debut? >From: "Rex.Broome" >To: "'fegmaniax@smoe.org'" >Subject: Allowable Feg Names >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:41:51 -0800 >Jill: > >>I want to know more about Robyn filming something in Tucson. >Rex: >Me too. How we glossed over that in favor of, like, whatever we got pissed >off about instead is beyond me. Surely someone knows something more about >this... and he's recording there as well, right? I think Demme is filming a remake of The Manchurian Candidate, maybe it's this? I think I read it was something for Demme. Max _________________________________________________________________ MSN Shopping upgraded for the holidays! 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