From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #418 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, November 9 2003 Volume 12 : Number 418 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Oh yeah, and the Matrix [Capuchin ] Re: Don't touch my schtick (was: Murdering William) [Eb ] Re: Yanni Rocks! Er, Roky Yawns! Ehhhhfeckit... [Capuchin ] Re: Yanni Rocks! Er, Roky Yawns! Ehhhhfeckit... [Capuchin ] Re: possible feg-like gig? ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Degrees of separation ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: possible feg-like gig? ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: Yanni Rocks! Er, Roky Yawns! Ehhhhfeckit... [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeff] Re: Degrees of separation [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: Degrees of separation ["Stewart C. Russell" ] re: Kill Bill ["Marc Holden" ] gnatmaniax: a feggy evening with the Decembrists ["Natalie Jacobs" ] Re: Yanni Rocks! Er, Roky Yawns! Ehhhhfeckit... ["Grunty" Subject: Re: Oh yeah, and the Matrix On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, steve wrote: > I guess you've never seen one of those samurai movies where one guy > kills hundreds. I have, but I don't remember them being played for laughs. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:28:39 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Don't touch my schtick (was: Murdering William) >Jeme: > > Russell Crowe (I don't think I'd like the guy, but he can act) > >What's he play well other than the tough, ignorant, violent asshole? > >He made A Beautiful Mind to change our minds about it, but I think it just >went to prove he shouldn't break out of his genre. Seems like a rabid government-is-eviller like you *couldn't* have missed The Insider...Crowe played even more against type in that one. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:30:57 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: possible feg-like gig? On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Okay then, Reese Witherspoon to Robyn in three steps. Reese was in Twilight with Gene Hackman, does that count? Otherwise, I'd say something like Reese Witherspoon was in Fear with Mark Wahlberg who made The Truth About Charlie which was directed by Jonathan Demme and featured Mr. Kennedy in the final scene. OK, I'm just pulling shit off the top of my head waiting for my socks to dry so I can go out again. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:33:18 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Yanni Rocks! Er, Roky Yawns! Ehhhhfeckit... On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Grunty wrote: > so let me get this straight, we aren't allowed to call ourselves animals > names on this list? Far as I can tell, you can do whatever you want. I think we'd just have an easier time with long conversations if you write them the other way 'round. > because my real name is Laura, but damn, i am so sick of it, can't i > call myself what the hell i want, what it is with this list? Sure, sure. But I don't think you'll convince anyone here to actually think of you as an animal. But lots of folks have funny animal names... there's lobsterman and Sydney of the Wasps and our former Quail and Even Eb. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:35:03 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Don't touch my schtick (was: Murdering William) On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Eb wrote: > Seems like a rabid government-is-eviller like you *couldn't* have missed > The Insider...Crowe played even more against type in that one. Right, but not WELL. He was a thug in a labcoat. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 03:07:29 -0500 From: "Grunty" Subject: Re: Yanni Rocks! Er, Roky Yawns! Ehhhhfeckit... well, kill me if you must but victhesquid is my yahoo name................lol i actually named a Sim Victoria N Squid (The Sims Online, Calvins Creek) but call me what you will, i will try to be good, if i can. : D Grunty Da Warthawg aka Laura gruntydawarthawg@verizon.net >Far as I can tell, you can do whatever you want. I think we'd just have > an easier time with long conversations if you write them the other way > 'round. > Sure, sure. But I don't think you'll convince anyone here to actually > think of you as an animal. > > But lots of folks have funny animal names... there's lobsterman and Sydney > of the Wasps and our former Quail and Even Eb. > > J. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 03:16:22 -0500 From: "Grunty" Subject: Re: Yanni Rocks! Er, Roky Yawns! Ehhhhfeckit... aha........i think i am just starting to get it............lol sorry i am slow, and yes, take that anyway you want to, i promise not to be offended. : D (you forgot Saddam.........) Grunty Da Warthawg gruntydawarthawg@verizon.net > You are allowed to call yourself anything you want, > except for Osama, Adolf, George, or Britney. > > We just get to make fun of you for it if we feel like > it. :) > > You get the same privilege, of course. > > > -- (not really a dwarf) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 03:19:33 -0500 From: "Grunty" Subject: Re: Yanni Rocks! Er, Roky Yawns! Ehhhhfeckit... uhhhhh..................never mind.................lol ; ) Grunty OR Laura gruntydawarthawg@verizon.net > I'm only responding because you quote my appreciation of Rex's wordplay > here, but WTF? Did someone really call you out for using an anthropomorphic > nym? That's just weird. You could ask the Great Quail but he's resting. > You might have better luck with Gnat. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:44:11 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: This calls for a very clever mixture of psychology and extreme violence >> > The kids have no appreciation for the art of the bon mot, these days. >> >>There you go with your smutty French talk again... > >It's just my inexplicable je ne se quois, or however you spell it. (I took >German in high school.) Is this the time to point out that bon mot backwards is Tom nob? I didn't think so James PS - good to see someone else remembers the Young Ones! PPS - 29-9! Great result. Into the semis... James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:44:28 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Don't touch my schtick (was: Murdering William) >It's probably more difficult to think of stars for whom this is not true. >Off the top of my head: > >Anthony Hopkins (he's got *2* schticks he does really well) >Russell Crowe (I don't think I'd like the guy, but he can act) >Billy Bob Thornton >Cate Blanchett > >Hrm. I know there must be a few more, but at the moment I'm having trouble >of thinking up their names. Anyone who's ever arranged a video ebvening with a double bill of "Sexy Beast" and "Gandhi" will add Ben Kingsley to that list! James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 11:01:05 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: REAP - -- Maximilian Lang is rumored to have mumbled on Freitag, 7. November 2003 23:25 Uhr -0500 regarding REAP: > The USA's olympic baseball team's berth is the Athens games. I am > shocked. Isn't it ridiculous to base these decisions on a single game? That's fine for other sports, but baseball? - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 04:09:46 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Yanni Rocks! Er, Roky Yawns! Ehhhhfeckit... On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Grunty wrote: > (you forgot Saddam.........) No, Saddam is perfectly acceptable. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 09:05:28 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: REAP >From: Sebastian Hagedorn >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Re: REAP >Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 11:01:05 +0100 >-- Maximilian Lang is rumored to have mumbled on >Freitag, 7. November 2003 23:25 Uhr -0500 regarding REAP: My name fits well next to a Freitag! >>The USA's olympic baseball team's berth is the Athens games. I am >>shocked. >Isn't it ridiculous to base these decisions on a single game? That's fine >for other sports, but baseball? Agreed, it is historically a game based on series. Max _________________________________________________________________ Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account is over limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 11:20:01 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: possible feg-like gig? Capuchin wrote: > > Otherwise, I'd say something like Reese Witherspoon was in Fear with Mark > Wahlberg who made The Truth About Charlie which was directed by Jonathan > Demme and featured Mr. Kennedy in the final scene. that's one way of doing it. Reese was in Legally Blonde 2 with Mary Lynn Rajskub who, according to UMDB, lives with JfS co-conspirator Jon Brion. LB2 was more amusing than I expected. And no, I wasn't on the W3 (Winnipeg Wheelchair Weed) at the time. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 11:24:54 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Degrees of separation >From: "Stewart C. Russell" >Subject: Re: possible feg-like gig? >Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 11:20:01 -0500 >Capuchin wrote: >>Otherwise, I'd say something like Reese Witherspoon was in Fear with Mark >>Wahlberg who made The Truth About Charlie which was directed by Jonathan >>Demme and featured Mr. Kennedy in the final scene. >that's one way of doing it. >Reese was in Legally Blonde 2 with Mary Lynn Rajskub who, according to >UMDB, lives with JfS co-conspirator Jon Brion. You do realize this Mary Lynn link places Robyn very close to 24. Max _________________________________________________________________ Crave some Miles Davis or Grateful Dead? Your old favorites are always playing on MSN Radio Plus. Trial month free! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 11:27:39 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: possible feg-like gig? >From: "Stewart C. Russell" >Subject: Re: possible feg-like gig? >Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 11:20:01 -0500 >Reese was in Legally Blonde 2 with Mary Lynn Rajskub who, according to >UMDB, lives with JfS co-conspirator Jon Brion. Nevermind that, Mary Lynn's band opened for The Soft Boys at Largo. Max _________________________________________________________________ Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account is over limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:37:11 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Yanni Rocks! Er, Roky Yawns! Ehhhhfeckit... Quoting Grunty : > so let me get this straight, we aren't allowed to call ourselves animals > names on this list? We've had several animals on this list. One regular poster confesses in his .sig that really he's a dog; we once had a quail, but he flew the coop; and there are others I'm sure. So long as they clean up their scat, animals are fine. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb :: --Batman ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:46:07 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Degrees of separation Quoting Maximilian Lang : > >Reese was in Legally Blonde 2 with Mary Lynn Rajskub who, according to > >UMDB, lives with JfS co-conspirator Jon Brion. > > You do realize this Mary Lynn link places Robyn very close to 24. _The Gilmore Girls_ is a good source for these music/movie-TV links, having featured as actors Carole King, Grant Lee Phillips, Sebastian Bach, and...dammit, there's at least one other major one, can't think of it... (The Bangles doesn't count: they only played on the show, rather than acted.) ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: sex, drugs, revolt, Eskimos, atheism ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 11:47:35 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Degrees of separation Maximilian Lang wrote: > > You do realize this Mary Lynn link places Robyn very close to 24. nope; never seen it. No TV. I'm told that KS grew up in Toronto, tho'. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:54:33 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: re: Kill Bill I'm hesitant to even post about this (I've started to post then deleted a few times over the last couple of weeks), but there is a distinct pattern going on here. Jeme makes a statement. Someone contradicts him. Jeme goes on to say that they must have misunderstood what he said. When they continue to say they don't have the same opinion, he states that the problem must be a short coming in their reading skills, or that perhaps the person is "...purposely misunderstanding...", etc. No, the problem is that they disagree with the thing(s) he was saying, or some aspect of his statement. They understood what he said the first time and do not agree with him. He doesn't need to re-explain or clarify what he said, he just needs to remember that he is stating opinions rather than facts. But please, the extended beating to death of every point of contention is getting old. If someone can't get their point across after a couple of attempts, let it be, okay? Is it really so important that everyone agrees with everything a person says? I respect the members of this group, as a whole, quite a bit; but I can't say I always agree with them. "...And that's OK", to borrow a phrase from Stuart Smalley. For example, one of my favorite Fegs (and I mean that sincerely, not in some favor-seeking manner because I want to hit him up for a drink next time our paths cross), Jim D. said: >I was rather impressed with Jeme's Tarantino heckle. I wasn't. I think people who talk during movies are obnoxious (unless it's the Rocky Horror Picture Show, and even then, some people don't know when to start/stop). I don't care how witty, important, thought provoking, insightful, humorous, or "helpful" the statement is, I'd prefer not to have a movie interrupted. If these people really have something so important to express, let them make their own movie, or at least save their comments for after the movie. But that's just my opinion ;^) Later, Marc btw--While I'm sitting here typing, I'm playing a Rykodisc sampler CD "Steal This Disc 2", and I hear Nils Lofgren singing "If I Say It, It's So". Wow, talk about synchronicity... "Shut up! Shut up, you American. You always talk, you Americans. You talk and you talk and say 'let me tell you something' and 'I just wanna say this'. Well, you're dead now, so shut up!"--Mr. Death (the Grim Reaper), Monty Python's Meaning of Life. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 13:52:52 -0800 From: "Natalie Jacobs" Subject: gnatmaniax: a feggy evening with the Decembrists Yes, Portland's own Decembrists returned to their native city last night, at Berbati's Pan. My opinion of this venue continues to spiral downward - I've complained about the noisy and rude audiences before, but also you have to wait in line at the bar to get water, which drives me crazy, and must drive the bartenders crazy too. Of course, once you get the water, you can refill it from the tap in the bathroom, but still... it's annoying. Never mind... Anyway, I saw a little of the first band, Reclinerland - they were OK, but I mistrust bands without guitarists that aren't Quasi. After their set I bought the Decembrists' first album from their singer, the charming and exceedingly hot feggy person Colin Meloy. I told him how much I enjoyed "Her Majesty." There was no tinfoil sculpture action because I'd already given him one at that instore last month. I spent the second band's set talking to our very own Michael Wolfe about diverse subjects. My friend Bengt from Ann Arbor turned up with another Ann Arborite in tow, and somehow the conversation turned to waxing pubic hair. I don't know how this happened. So the Decembrists took the stage, and I snagged a great spot right up at the front - there were a lot of people there but the crowd wasn't very dense. There was Colin, who had trouble with his 12-string and switched over to a pretty little Martin mahogony classical guitar for most of the set. There was a guy who played plucked and bowed upright bass and also electric bass, the possibly pseudonymic Chris Funk who played guitar and pedal steel, a girl who played accordian and vintage keyboards, and Rachel Blumberg, the saucy drummer. They got off to a slow start due to Colin's guitar troubles, but soon hit their stride with a mix of old and new and unreleased songs, plus a cover (I think by the Jam?). Their music is, as everyone says, reminiscent of Neutral Milk Hotel (and Robyn, of course) but has a dark, hypnotizing power which is entirely their own. I kept thinking through the whole show, "These guys are really something special, they're going to go far." At least, I hope so. For one song, Colin invited his uncle, feggy person Paul Montaigne, up on stage to play guitar with them, because it was Paul's birthday. It was cool. Another great moment was during "The Soldiering Life" when Rachel Blumberg raised her sticks above her head dramatically before she played, and the bassist lifted up his electric bass as if it was a gun. At another point, Colin flung Decembrists trucker hats into the crowd, shouting, "Trucker hats sell like shit on the road! Let this be a lesson to you all!" Alas, I didn't get one, but hats look dumb on me anyway. Colin came out for the encore to do a few songs by himself. The din from the audience nearly drowned him out. (I don't even want to go into another rant about people who pay $8 to talk during a show... you've heard it all before.) Jeme shouted out for "Flesh Cartoons" - Colin sang a couple of lines but admitted he didn't know the words. He played a song about "singing Sweet Clementine" and delicately worked in the melody for Elliott Smith's "Clementine" into the outro... I thought he was going to sing the whole song but he left it at that... a sweet and subtle tribute. He began to sing "I Was Meant for the Stage" and at the line, "I was meant to raise my hands with quiet all about me," he paused so that you could hear how incredibly noisy the audience was. During this song the other band members drifted back on stage to join him, and the song ended with an insane cacophany with Chris Funk playing his pedal steel with the neck of his guitar, the upright bassist down on the ground, Colin staggering around playing his guitar behind his head, and general chaos - I was actually worried they were going to break something. But nothing got broken, and that's how the show ended. Huzzah! n. _________________________________________________________________ Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 14:07:50 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: gnatmaniax: a feggy evening with the Decembrists >Another great moment was during "The Soldiering Life" when Rachel >Blumberg raised her sticks above her head dramatically before she >played Did you say "sticks" or "skirts"? Oh, OK...never mind. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:22:55 -0800 From: "Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" Subject: RE: gnatmaniax: a feggy evening with the Decembrists I caught their show the night before at the Crocodile in Seattle and I was really impressed with how good they were live. Easily one of the best shows that i've seen this year. I was worried that their sound wouldn't carry over well live but they blew me away. The whole band was immensely entertaining and Colin Meloy is special performer. They didn't do many of their most popppy tunes which it didnt matter. They covered Squeeze's "Up The Junction" and did two brand new songs that were great as well. There were luckily no noisy bastards talking during their set but that may have alot to do with the layout of the Croc and the fact that it was a Thursday night rather than a friday. But it was pretty packed and I was impressed at how many people were there and how many were really into them. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:51:53 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: so many interesting things Jeff, I have to agree that 1996 was the worst year. The worst. Thanks for the pneumonia concern. Curt seems to be responding to medication and only had a bit of fever today. He's going to be wiped out for a good month, I'm sure. We had a bonding experience over This is Spinal Tap today. Now he is a man. Keanu Reeves first caught my eye in Much Ado About Nothing. The movie is very uneven (I really think that we should just leave Shakespeare to the Brits - most Americans simply can't do it), but his performance was so stunningly awful that I could never see him in anything again without thinking of junior high school drama club. I want to know more about Robyn filming something in Tucson. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:19:26 -0500 From: "Grunty" Subject: Re: Yanni Rocks! Er, Roky Yawns! Ehhhhfeckit... oh ok..........lol ; ) if Saddam is acceptable, is Grunty? : D Grunty Da Warthawg gruntydawarthawg@verizon.net > On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Grunty wrote: > > (you forgot Saddam.........) > > No, Saddam is perfectly acceptable. > > J. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #418 ********************************