From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #408 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, November 1 2003 Volume 12 : Number 408 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Cannonball Rife Kangaroo Chipmunk [Jeff Dwarf ] RE: Power-Twee! [Eb ] RE: Power-Twee! [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Cannonball Rife Kangaroo Chipmunk [Miles Goosens ] RE: Power-Twee! [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: bottom line ["Jon Lewis" ] RE: Power-Twee! [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Subgenres not mentioned [Jeff Dwarf ] Gaybritshitcore! ["Rex.Broome" ] RE: Power-Twee! ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: Subgenres not mentioned [Tom Clark ] Re: Gaybritshitcore! [Capuchin ] Re: Gaybritshitcore! [Eb ] Re: Gaybritshitcore! ["Jason R. Thornton" ] RE: Gaybritshitcore! ["Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" ] RE: Gaybritshitcore! [Capuchin ] The latest from Rhino Handmade [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: bottom line gig [Steve Talkowski ] Re: The latest from Rhino Handmade [Miles Goosens ] Re: bottom line gig [John Barrington Jones ] Re: bottom line gig ["Jon Lewis" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:51:10 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Cannonball Rife Kangaroo Chipmunk Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > Your subject line reminds me - parse the following > sentence (and it is a sentence): > > Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo > Buffalo. Subject; verb; geographic adjective; object; fuzzy on the next three. I can barely figure out what that fucking sentence means though (that Bison in general are bewildering bison from an eastern New York city who are bewildering the eastern New York city in general overall, right?) > Ga-whuh-hupta-wha? I never heard "progressive rock" > used to describe anything but...well, progressive > rock (Yes, ELP, etc.). I heard it a few times, mostly from Sacramentans. ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 13:52:53 -0800 From: Eb Subject: RE: Power-Twee! > > What you called Brit-pop, I was more likely to hear called "synth-pop," >> "New Wave," "New Romantic" or "that gay British shit." > >I don't, however, remember hearing "gay" as a derogatory adjective until >the mid-nineties. Humor-impaired, as ever. > > Also, "college rock" definitely ruled the day over "alternative." I >> might have even heard "post-modern" more than "alternative," during the > > late '80s. > >And sometimes merely "modern rock" as in the Columbia House >category. Yeah, that too. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:01:08 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: RE: Power-Twee! Eb wrote: >>> What you called Brit-pop, I was more likely to >>> hear called "synth-pop," "New Wave," "New >>> Romantic" or "that gay British shit." > > > >I don't, however, remember hearing "gay" as a > derogatory adjective until > >the mid-nineties. > > Humor-impaired, as ever. Why does anyone even bother? Of course, if he didn't heard "gay" used derogatorily until the mid-90's, he must have been deaf until then fer Christ's sake. >>> Also, "college rock" definitely ruled the day >>> over "alternative." I might have even heard >>> "post-modern" more than "alternative," during the >>> late '80s. >> >> And sometimes merely "modern rock" as in the >> Columbia House category. In the late 80's, modern rock was probably the most dominant term that I heard, probably mostly because that was how Live 105 marketed themselves. So naturally, many of my friends and i had to call it something else. So what did we end up choosing? Alternative. Fuck.... ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:02:00 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Cannonball Rife Kangaroo Chipmunk At 01:51 PM 10/31/2003 -0800, Jeff Dwarf wrote: >> Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo >> Buffalo. >I can barely figure out what that fucking sentence >means though (that Bison in general are bewildering >bison from an eastern New York city who are >bewildering the eastern New York city in general >overall, right?) You mean "the other east" (as in "turn left... uh, no, your other left!"). :-) As for That Kind of Music We Knew and Usually Liked: Early to Mid-'80s: "Underground" (see the TROUSER PRESS PRESENTS BEST OF AMERICAN UNDERGROUND cassette for confirmation and examples) Mid-'80s to Late-'80s: "Indie" as far as store sections (presenting dilemmas on what to do with acts that signed to majors later), "Modern Rock" creeps in (MTV aiding this mebbe?), "College Rock" also applicable, some hang on to "Underground" though when Midnight Oil, R.E.M., the Church, etc., sell a few records its meaning is questioned... Late-'80s to Mid-'90s: "Alternative" kicks most of these other words to the curve -- ironically, just in time for Nirvana to take over the charts. Me personally? Nirvana is *definitely* more aligned with the Replacements/R.E.M./Sonic Youth part of the music world than their ostensible "grunge" counterparts, and I always think it's damned unfortunate and ironic that they'll forever be remembered as avatars of a style that, post-BLEACH, they didn't really fit into. Mid-'90s to Present: Apparently, it's all Emo. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:08:11 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Cannonball Rife Kangaroo Chipmunk Miles Goosens wrote: > At 01:51 PM 10/31/2003 -0800, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > >> Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo > >> Buffalo. > > >I can barely figure out what that fucking sentence > >means though (that Bison in general are bewildering > >bison from an eastern New York city who are > >bewildering the eastern New York city in general > >overall, right?) > > You mean "the other east" (as in "turn left... uh, > no, your other left!"). :-) Right. Fuck! I blame being forced to listen to Don & Mike. Or Yoko. It's just odd to think of Buffalo as being "west" out here. Or I was testing you. > As for That Kind of Music We Knew and Usually Liked: > > Early to Mid-'80s: "Underground" (see the TROUSER > PRESS PRESENTS BEST OF AMERICAN UNDERGROUND cassette > for confirmation and examples) > > Mid-'80s to Late-'80s: "Indie" as far as store > sections (presenting dilemmas on what to do with > acts that signed to majors later), "Modern Rock" > creeps in (MTV aiding this mebbe?), "College Rock" > also applicable, some hang on to "Underground" > though when Midnight Oil, R.E.M., the Church, etc., > sell a few records its meaning is questioned... > > Late-'80s to Mid-'90s: "Alternative" kicks most of > these other words to the curve -- ironically, just > in time for Nirvana to take over the charts. Me > personally? Nirvana is *definitely* more aligned > with the Replacements/R.E.M./Sonic Youth part of the > music world than their ostensible "grunge" > counterparts, and I always think it's damned > unfortunate and ironic that they'll forever be > remembered as avatars of a style that, post-BLEACH, > they didn't really fit into. > > Mid-'90s to Present: Apparently, it's all Emo. ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 11:14:55 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: RE: Power-Twee! >>Yup! >> >>-Rex, Shortest. Post. Ever. > >No. > > > >- --Jason ! James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:22:43 -0500 From: "Jon Lewis" Subject: Re: bottom line > hey y'all. i've been kinda not paying attention to any plans for this > evening's festivities at the bottom line. meredith (yes, allen, she > exists) and i are going to try to get there by 7 but we'll have to see > if traffic cooperates. i assume the usual suspects will be in attendance? > I'll be at the late set... a little white guy wearing a skyblue longsleeve with tomatoes all over it. Jon Lewis ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:28:10 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: RE: Power-Twee! James Dignan wrote: > >>Yup! > >> > >>-Rex, Shortest. Post. Ever. > > > >No. > > ! . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:33:19 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Subgenres not mentioned Eb wrote: > naively wondering why they don't try seeding the clouds just a guess, but if the first heavyish rains are before they can get some foiliage up there to set some sort of roots, it could lead to some serious landslides. plus it might not even help. ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:47:52 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Gaybritshitcore! >>..Jeff, trying to figure out the last Dreamworks artist he bought a CD >>by...Eels? That's certainly the last artist on the label whose album I acquired... but I got it as a freebie for doing their scutwork. You know, once upon a time we had A&M as a client... they had some okay artists... >>Ga-whuh-hupta-wha? I never heard "progressive rock" used to describe >>anything but...well, progressive rock (Yes, ELP, etc.). I'm not the only one who remembers it, though... a couple other fegs testified the last time this came up. Maybe prog-proper was less in the public mind at that time? >>ThurstonMooreWorshipperCore Moorecore, surely. ________ Eb: >>> Didn't hear "progressive" so much, myself. Well, I didn't say it was used a lot... but in retrospect it's bizarre that it was used at all, which is why I found it worth mentioning. To the extent that any of this is, I mean. ____ Jeme: >>I don't, however, remember hearing "gay" as a derogatory adjective >>until the mid-nineties. That's a joke, right? The '90's usage was actually mostly a parody of the '80's one, I thought, a kind of post-PC "can you believe we actually used to say that?" thing. The putdown "retarded" seemed to make a similar comeback a few years later. Not that I advocate either... that's just what I observed. I'm sure 7th graders were still using it quite earnestly. _____ James: >>which basically shows that, even after all the explanations, I still >>haven't really a clue what emo is... sigh. You are not alone, my friend. You know... I think we've all not learned something today. Happy Halloween to all in any case! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:06:08 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: RE: Power-Twee! At 02:28 PM 10/31/2003 -0800, Jeff Dwarf wrote: >. That reminds me, I was watching the news while up in LA a few days ago, and this reporter was talking about all the devastation the fire had caused while standing in front of a wall of flames. He then stopped mid-sentence and exclaimed "Oh, wow, a bluejay." Funniest thing I've ever seen on TV. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:45:50 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Subgenres not mentioned on 10/31/03 2:33 PM, Jeff Dwarf at munki1972@yahoo.com wrote: > Eb wrote: >> naively wondering why they don't try seeding the > clouds > > just a guess, but if the first heavyish rains are > before they can get some foiliage up there to set some > sort of roots, it could lead to some serious > landslides. plus it might not even help. I saw a headline in the paper a few weeks ago that said something about cloud seeding never being proven to work. Here's a link: http://tinyurl.com/t7c8 - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:03:57 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Gaybritshitcore! On Fri, 31 Oct 2003, Rex.Broome wrote: > Jeme: > >>I don't, however, remember hearing "gay" as a derogatory adjective > >>until the mid-nineties. > > That's a joke, right? The '90's usage was actually mostly a parody of > the '80's one, I thought, a kind of post-PC "can you believe we actually > used to say that?" thing. Must be a regional thing (either the usage or the lack). I certainly never heard it until well after college. I was quite properly stunned when I first heard it and it really annoys me in common usage. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:08:07 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Gaybritshitcore! >I was quite properly stunned when I first heard it and it really annoys me >in common usage. Avoid "South Park" at all costs. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:16:13 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Gaybritshitcore! At 04:08 PM 10/31/2003 -0800, Eb wrote: >Avoid "South Park" at all costs. Dude. Only homo-mongoloids enjoy that show anyway. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:47:23 -0800 From: "Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" Subject: RE: Gaybritshitcore! Jeme: > > >>I don't, however, remember hearing "gay" as a derogatory adjective > > >>until the mid-nineties. > > > > That's a joke, right? The '90's usage was actually mostly a parody of > > the '80's one, I thought, a kind of post-PC "can you believe we actually > > used to say that?" thing. > > Must be a regional thing (either the usage or the lack). I certainly > never heard it until well after college. > > I was quite properly stunned when I first heard it and it really annoys me > in common usage. Whoa! Where the heck did you grow up Jeme? A Hippie Commune? I grew up in Alaska and and various places around the puget sound and it wasn't till i went to college that people seemed to to try not to use it as a pejorative. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:39:13 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Cannonball Rife Kangaroo Chipmunk Quoting Jeff Dwarf : > Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > > Your subject line reminds me - parse the following > > sentence (and it is a sentence): > > > > Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo > > Buffalo. > > Subject; verb; geographic adjective; object; fuzzy on > the next three. > > I can barely figure out what that fucking sentence > means though (that Bison in general are bewildering > bison from an eastern New York city who are > bewildering the eastern New York city in general > overall, right?) Something like. Basically, "Buffalo buffalo" is a type of buffalo ("Bb"). Then: "Bb [that] Bb [bewilder] [themselves bewilder] [residents of the city of] Buffalo." Compare "Music Rex likes puzzles Eb." Yeah, putting the "that" in makes it a lot clearer - but technically, it's correct. Which only proves how little technical correctness means. I forget where I stole that one from - somewhere else, though. As for genre names: it was, in fact, at a Robyn Hitchcock concert way back in the eighties in Madison that I realized the correct name for all the different musics I like is, in fact, the same - at least, when it's viewed live - and that is "tall people's music." Not the performers (who are often short) but the rest of the audience, particularly the ones who stand in front of me, invariably. I'm not *that* short (5'9"), otherwise I'd understand this. - --Jeff, who's heard "gay" as a derogatory adjective at least since the late '70s...maybe a midwestern thing? ("Femme" is a noun variation: thus the band name "Violent Femmes") J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: PLEASE! You are sending cheese information to me. :: I don't want it. :: I have no goats or cows or any other milk producing animal! :: --"raus" lp: Thou _Put Us in Tune_ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 03:22:48 -0500 From: mike hooker Subject: bottom line gig hi, i just got back from the late show at the bottom line. VERY interesting show. he really reached back and did some oldies/rarely performed songs. also, a noticable lack of between song banter. he was a song machine tonite. the place was only maybe 2/3 full. i think sometimes he senses it might be an audience not real familiar with his usual type of show, and keeps the chat part to a minimum . maybe that was the case tonite. anyway, i rolled a real nice DAT of it. anyone wants to trade, let me know. i'd like to hear the early show, plus others from this go round. thanks have fun, Mike Hooker please see my music trading list at: http://hometown.aol.com/mhooker216/myhomepage/index.html being AOL, its doesnt always work. try later, or ask for a list ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 00:41:42 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: RE: Gaybritshitcore! On Fri, 31 Oct 2003, Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc) wrote: > Jeme: > > Must be a regional thing (either the usage or the lack). I certainly > > never heard it until well after college. > > > > I was quite properly stunned when I first heard it and it really annoys me > > in common usage. > > Whoa! Where the heck did you grow up Jeme? A Hippie Commune? I grew up > in Alaska and and various places around the puget sound and it wasn't > till i went to college that people seemed to to try not to use it as a > pejorative. I grew up in a small logging town outside Portland, Oregon. A perhaps relevant aside [forgive me if I've told this before]: I remember my senior year in high school, a new English teacher came to the school from Missouri and she wanted to bring some PC ideas... so she tried to host a classroom discussion about racial stereotypes. We couldn't come up with any. And so thought maybe we were being shy or just didn't understand how she was expressing herself. So she tried to get the ball rolling. "Say, how about this one, "Black people are lazy"?" People laughed. She thought she'd struck a chord. So she asked if we knew any others. Someone piped up, "I've never heard that before." None of us had. I can't really explain it, but we just didn't have that sort of thing. Sure, there were roving packs of jocks and hicks (and some overlap, sure... high school is a place where we pretend there is no union in the social Venn diagram) who picked on the weirdos and hippies and there were stoners out on the other side of the parking lot and so on... it was no loving commune. We just didn't get a whole lot of exposure to the wider world. I guess the town was so small that minorities HAD to be included because there weren't enough of them to stick to themselves. When there's only one black family in town, there MUST be interracial dating. When there's only one or two gay kids, you know them well enough to judge them on the whole person. I dunno. Weird. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 05:51:20 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: The latest from Rhino Handmade Since they've been mentioned a few times recently: Guadalcanal Diary - Walking In The Shadow Of The Big Man With roots in the Southern-gothic imagery of their Marietta, Georgia home, Guadalcanal Diary's jangly stew of garage rock, roots twang, and exotic rhythms encompassed global styles and expansive themes. This wasn't your parents' Southern rock. Longtime friends Murray Attaway and Jeff Walls had played in various groups when they dreamed up a new band to play oddball covers, Civil War ballads, and original songs. Enlisting John Poe on drums and Attaway's then-girlfriend Rhett Crowe on bass, Emergency Broadcast System made their live debut in late 1981. With a name change to Guadalcanal Diary, they became part of an emerging Atlanta-area new-music scene home to The B-52's, The Fans, The Swimming Pool Q's, and, later, R.E.M. After releasing their four-song Watusi Rodeo EP, Guadalcanal Diary signed with Danny Beard's seminal DB label. R.E.M. producer Don Dixon was hired for the record that would become Walking. Well received by critics and college radio upon its 1983 release, the album caught the ear of Elektra, who signed the band to a four-record contract (the re-release of Walking being the first of the four). This expanded and remastered Rhino Handmade release features Walking In The Shadow Of The Big Man in its entirety, plus the Watusi Rodeo EP and the previously unreleased "Just An Excuse." Walking In The Shadow Of The Big Man is available as an individually numbered limited edition of 2,500 copies. Get it at: http://www.rhinohandmade.com ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 09:47:45 -0500 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: bottom line gig On Nov 1, 2003, at 3:22 AM, mike hooker wrote: > hi, > i just got back from the late show at the bottom line. VERY > interesting > show. he really reached back and did some oldies/rarely performed > songs. Hey Mike, Set list please! The first show got the Beatles "She Said She Said"(!) and the Psych Furs "Ghost In You". And "Guildford" (love this song) and "Chinese Bones" (love this one too) and many others similar to the Boston show. > also, a noticable lack of between song banter. he was a song machine > tonite. That's because he was a banter machine during the first show! Seriously. His stream-of-obscure-consciousness was off the charts last night. Aside from whole stories about Dylan with gesticulating, polka-dot shirted and harmonica wielding trees, and the similarities between him and Frank Sinatra, Robyn recited two lengthy passages from Captain Beefheart's Trout Mask - i think that's what Robyn said it was, "essential listening". Or something to do with meat. I really don't know much about Beefheart but some preliminary online research reveals the obvious influence and kindred spiritedness. Great, another artist with a vast catalogue I'm now going to have to investigate. Anyone care to add to Robyn's essential listening? He also mentioned Condoleezza Rice about 10 times. > the place was only maybe 2/3 full. i think sometimes he senses it > might be > an audience not real familiar with his usual type of show, and keeps > the > chat part to a minimum . maybe that was the case tonite. He was merely all chattered out. ;) I had a splitting headache all day and really wanted to stay for the 2nd show but decided to enjoy the 1st as much as I can and then walk home amidst the Halloween revelers. I did see one Feg (Hi to Mary sitting right up against the stage). > anyway, i rolled a real nice DAT of it. anyone wants to trade, let > me > know. i'd like to hear the early show, plus others from this go round. Did you have a woman from Sirius Satellite Radio give a pre Robyn "Save The Bottom Line" intro? She informed the early show crowd that the concert was being recorded and will be broadcast in about a week. It's not free though - looks like a one month subscript will cost $12.95. I'd love to hear the second show if it's not broadcast. - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 09:54:20 -0600 (GMT-06:00) From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: The latest from Rhino Handmade Jeff Dwarf (well, actually Rhino Handmade) sez: >Well received by >critics and college radio upon its 1983 release, the >album caught the ear of Elektra, I asked this on Loud-Fans but no one has had the definitive answer yet, so... isn't 1983 the wrong date? I thought WALKING IN THE SHADOW OF THE BIG MAN came out on DB Records in '84, and was re-released by Elektra in '85. Anyone remember for sure? later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 10:56:12 -0500 From: "Jon Lewis" Subject: Re: bottom line gig > > hi, > > i just got back from the late show at the bottom line. VERY > > interesting > > show. he really reached back and did some oldies/rarely performed > > songs. > > Hey Mike, > > Set list please! I'll chime in, though I can't give it complete from memory... but there were a surprising two songs from Perspex: She Doesn't Exist at the piano, which was spine-chilling, and Ride as the show closer in a very spirited and moving version. Also 52 Stations, which I don't think I've ever heard him do live, was done stunningly. TWO Roxy covers (More Than This and Main Thing) along with New Age by the Velvets, and an Incredible String Band cover dedicated to David Bowie (not sure what song, though I have several of their records... included the line "Oh I can't touch the plow/because it's dyyyiiinnggg...") I like the way he's performing Goodnight I Say now. I've seen so many of these acoustic shows of his now, and I must say the intensity and conviction level of his performances last night was very, very high. His voice was unusually cutting and expressive and he really sold the shit out of some songs I didn't even think he was interested in anymore. However, The Sound Of Sound was a special high point, pointing up how the Luxor material is written especially to suit the interesting deep-yet-reedy timbre his voice has taken on in the last several years. In fact, that's what kinda makes Luxor a major keeper for me and a new kind of album in his catalogue. The sound world is just different. As he departed he said "I hope to see you in early December." Any mention along those lines in the early set? To hear this Sirius broadcast, do we not only have to pay a subscrip fee but also have some sort of special gear? Grrr, I'd sure like to hear that early set. Jon Lewis ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 08:07:24 -0800 (PST) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Re: bottom line gig Is there anywhere we can put the call out for Sirius users to tape this for us? There's got to be a Sirius fans bulletin board or a newsgroup or soemthing. It sounds like an amazing show, the kind you'd want in broadcast quality. On Sat, 1 Nov 2003, Jon Lewis wrote: > > > hi, ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 12:41:07 -0500 From: "Jon Lewis" Subject: Re: bottom line gig > Is there anywhere we can put the call out for Sirius users to tape this > for us? There's got to be a Sirius fans bulletin board or a newsgroup or > soemthing. > > It sounds like an amazing show, the kind you'd want in broadcast quality. > Yes, good grief! I'm bitterly regretting not going to both sets now... plus, the sound at the Bottom Line was really superb, esp. RH's voice... Jon Lewis ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #408 ********************************