From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #403 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, October 29 2003 Volume 12 : Number 403 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Well, they are elegant bachelors... [Eb ] Re: Well, they are elegant bachelors... ["Stewart C. Russell" ] SHINS ["Iosso, Ken" ] Random question [Eb ] RE: guilt [Sweet & Tender Hooligan ] 24 ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: 24 [Eb ] Why We Don't Live In Morgantownia ["Rex.Broome" ] Must be the smoke that's making me all cranky ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: Must be the smoke that's making me all cranky [Aaron Mandel ] Re: Must be the crank that's making me all smoky [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffr] Re: Must be the smoke that's making me all cranky [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeff] Re: Farewell Aldebaran [Michael R Godwin ] Sappy songs [Barbara Soutar ] Solar Flares to hit the EARTH! ["Brian" ] Fletcher's 10-28-03 ["Roberta Cowan" ] Re: Jenniphyr Juniper [Miles Goosens ] Re: Guilty! Guilty! Guilty! [Michael R Godwin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:28:22 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Well, they are elegant bachelors... >And let us know if we should be airlifting you out soon, OK? Do you >and Rex require separate helicopters? I'm still wondering about Jason Thornton. Haven't heard from him since, er, Friday? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:32:02 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Well, they are elegant bachelors... Rex wrote: > > Ah... Stewart beat me to it. But he didn't > mention all the Mikes that > appeared at the same time. Guess it shows what a sectarian society I grew up in. Let's just say that there was no-one called Mike at my school. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:59:00 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Wonky Numans >And is it just my twisted mind, or is the name "Willy Wonka" a bit of a dirty >joke? feh. Next you'll be telling me that the names in Star Wars are all dirty jokes. - --- >A friend of mine tells me recent Gary Numan is very good in a dark, almost >NIN sort of way. She's promised to play me some sometime soon. I look >forward to it. and ooo it is good. Seems that Reznor picked up a number of his ideas from Numan, who has been working in a dark electronic vein on and off for some time. GN's album "Pure" is a goody! Of course I'm saying this just as there is an anti-NIN pogrom on the list, but hey, my timing has always been impeccable ;) James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:42:25 -0500 From: Tom Rodebaugh Subject: guilt general response to the "guilt" thread. . . too lazy to actually make up a list, but i see a number of things on there that i just don't feel guilty about. . . like shakespeare's sister, for example--it's just so much fun! (the lyrics are crap in a lot of places, but oh well. . .) but then i'm guessing, based on various opinions expressed on feg, that many of you would be dying of shame to admit to owning, say, nearly everything by the pet shop boys, or oingo boingo, or howard jones . . . right? well, i guess i wouldn't buy a new howard jones album today, but i sure would buy a new pet shop boys (still around!) or oingo boingo (defunct, sadly) album . . . speaking up for the unhip among us, tom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:07:07 -0600 From: "Iosso, Ken" Subject: SHINS One thing I feel no guilt about (and I don't feel guilt about much) is loving the Shins. Their new album is kicking my ass all over town. I will be attending their show at First Ave in Mpls on November 14th if any feg-sorts are going. I'll buy you a beer with a copy of this email. Ken Iosso ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:11:11 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Random question Did the Buddha Records reissue label get retired again? Their once-quite-nice website seems to have totally vanished from the Web. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:44:30 -0700 From: Sweet & Tender Hooligan Subject: RE: guilt > well, i guess i wouldn't buy a new howard jones album today, but i sure > would buy a new pet shop boys (still around!) or oingo boingo (defunct, > > sadly) album . . . > > speaking up for the unhip among us, I'm right there with ya, man! Just bought PSB's "Release" a couple months back, and I'm still diggin' it daily. :^) = s&th hooligan@apostate.com www.jaquelinerose.com "When you're young, your potential is infinite. You might do anything, really. You might be great. You might be Einstein. You might be Goethe. Then you get to an age where what you might be gives way to what you have been. You weren't Einstein. You weren't anything. That's a bad moment." - Charlie Kaufman ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:43:11 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: 24 Need I mention that tonight is the season debut of 24? Max _________________________________________________________________ Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your current Internet access and enjoy patented spam control and more. Get two months FREE! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:47:06 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: 24 >Need I mention that tonight is the season debut of 24? No! I'm just hoping that it won't be pre-empted by fire coverage! At the moment, five of the main seven channels are nothing but fire stuff..... Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:05:37 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Why We Don't Live In Morgantownia Miles: >> I have no qualms about owning PRETTY HATE MACHINE, where Reznor >>comes up with some stick-to-the-cerebellum hooks and melodies to carry >>along his doomsaying ditties, and I dug it from its 1989 release (it became >>a bestseller... um, during the first Lollapalooza? '91, I think). See, I disliked it from the word "go". All facile doom and gloom, music to pretend you were going to slit your wrist by, Depeche Mode made ostensibly dangerous by the radical addition of a loud guitar (a first in rock music! Oh, wait...) and/or industrial made safe for mallrats. I found "Head Like a Hole" borderline hilarious in its badness and to this day I can't believe it became so popular. But it is true that they *did* get worse. And thanks for Marilyn Manson, Trent. Thanks whole bunches. >>I will also restate my NIN/Pearl Jam theorem: a lot of the ill will I see >>directed toward the original groups has been generated or at least greatly >>exacerbated by ear fatigue from the flood of inferior ripoffs of said groups Possibly, but I personally hated the first thing I ever heard be either group intensely. I've almost completely forgiven Pearl Jam, but please, God, let me never hear "Alive" again. >>I've been at Scott Miller-related gatherings where spontaneous discussion of >>the Mountain State never happened -- though Mauritania was of course a >>primary topic. And the reasons for why we don't live in either place are sort of similar... >>Rex, this Scott Miller is Nothing Like Ryan Adams, in case that's holding >>you back. Nah, he's on my list of artists-to-investigate. I'd like to be sure Eb really hates him first, though. >>And let us know if we should be airlifting you out soon, OK? Do you and >>Rex require separate helicopters? I'm mostly suffering from worse traffic and that ash-on-the-car thing Eb mentioned, although a hillside right across the valley from my house did go up in flames rather spectacularly this weekend-- prolly a mile a way but in full view of our front porch. There certainly is a general feeling that Hell Itself is opening up beneath the foundations of LA and slowly swallowing us whole, though. And all I can say is a big "thanks, assholes" to all the people who have praying for that to happen for years. My guess is that after the election, all those prayers finally reached critical mass and got the Big Guy's attention. Screw you... bring on the solar flare! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:24:49 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Fire fire fire fire, wastepaper-basket fire! On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Eb wrote: > 1,552 homes burned, at last count? That is stunning and sad, surely. I've always feared "house fire" more than almost any physically non-injurious calamity. But I'm trying to be less materialistic. It still gives me the jibblies, though. Let's just hope they use this opportunity to rebuild those neighborhoods with proper amenities like corner stores, above-shop housing and other mixed-use buildings, appropriate transit, and more density. ...or just take the insurance money and move someplace that's actually hospitable to human life. I mean, get some freakin' rainfall (let alone a sustainable supply of potable water). J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:38:00 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Fire fire fire fire, wastepaper-basket fire! >Jeme: > > 1,552 homes burned, at last count? > >That is stunning and sad, surely. Fine, so far.... >Let's just hope they use this opportunity to rebuild those neighborhoods >with proper amenities like corner stores, above-shop housing and other >mixed-use buildings, appropriate transit, and more density. > >...or just take the insurance money and move someplace that's actually >hospitable to human life. I mean, get some freakin' rainfall (let alone a >sustainable supply of potable water). ...but naturally warps into the usual lemme-tell-you-all-how-to-live preaching. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:46:50 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Fire fire fire fire, wastepaper-basket fire! On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Eb wrote: > Fine, so far.... ...if you say so. > ...but naturally warps into the usual lemme-tell-you-all-how-to-live > preaching. And naturally veers away from any sensible, intellectual subject so you can tell us all how to read and listen. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:49:15 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Fire fire fire fire, wastepaper-basket fire! > > ...but naturally warps into the usual lemme-tell-you-all-how-to-live >> preaching. > >And naturally veers away from any sensible, intellectual subject so you >can tell us all how to read and listen. I have a tendency to forget that you're the ordained voice of common sense on the list. Apologies. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:52:29 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Fire fire fire fire, wastepaper-basket fire! On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Eb wrote: > > > ...but naturally warps into the usual lemme-tell-you-all-how-to-live > >> preaching. > >And naturally veers away from any sensible, intellectual subject so you > >can tell us all how to read and listen. > > I have a tendency to forget that you're the ordained voice of common > sense on the list. Apologies. Thanks for proving my point. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:54:56 -0800 (PST) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Re: Fire fire fire fire, wastepaper-basket fire! On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Eb wrote: > > > ...but naturally warps into the usual lemme-tell-you-all-how-to-live > >> preaching. > > > >And naturally veers away from any sensible, intellectual subject so you > >can tell us all how to read and listen. Maybe you two could duke this out behind the scenes? This is the second "back-and-forth" in two weeks. If I want drama I can watch "Joe Millionaire". =jbj= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:00:09 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: 24 >From: Tom Clark >To: Maximilian Lang >Subject: Re: 24 >Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:53:36 -0800 >on 10/28/03 3:43 PM, Maximilian Lang at maximlang@hotmail.com wrote: > > Need I mention that tonight is the season debut of 24? >Roger that. Tonight is also the season finale of The Joe Schmo Show. >Laugh >out loud funny. Agreed, "FYI, I peed in the hottub last night" has to be the greatest line ever uttered on television. I will have the VCR going and will watch at 11 when it has completed. Max _________________________________________________________________ Want to check if your PC is virus-infected? Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:32:17 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Must be the smoke that's making me all cranky James: >>Whatever happened to David and david, BTW - David Baerwald put out >>at least one solo album, but other than that...? At least two. Baerwald was also, I think, one of the guys in what was supposed to be Tuesday Night Music Club or whatever before Sheryl Crow screwed those guys over and turned that into her solo album. JeFFrey: >>I think a possible difference might be that {NIN & Smashin' Punkinses} at >>least plausibly started off smallscale in the usual indie fashion, and their >>earlier releases are a little less...glurksome...than they later became. Whereas >>the Stone Pimple Toilets seemingly sprung full-brown from the asshead of >>Eddie Vedder, with pre-drilled holes for the then de rigeur needles... I'd partially agree, but it doesn't make much difference, if you think, as I do, that *none* of them are any great shakes as artists. If you're derivative of good art, you'll probably produce something which is, by definition, inferior to the original... but if you're derivative of something which sucks to begin with, while you certainly end up with more suck, I'm not sure you always end up with worse suck. STP were worse than Pearl Jam... but they were better than Alice in Chains, by my reckoning. It must be said, though, that "Stone Temple Pilots" must be the single worst band name to ever become a household word. >>"bands whose early work is great, but way >>less popular, and saying you like them risks guilt by association with >>their later, increasingly craptastic work," the sine qua non of which is, >>of course, Pink Floyd. You are, of course, preaching to the choir here, but interestingly saying that elsewhere would probably either confuse the hell out of people or make them say, "It's true, they went to hell when Waters quit!" Anyone ever get so disenchanted with a band's increasing suckitude that you eventually ditched even the early good ones for just this reason? (Liz Phair apparently wants me to do this at least as badly as she wants my H.W.C., but she gets neither.) I never sell records back, so I guess my closest parallel would be stuff I owned on cassette/vinyl and never upgraded to CD... the only things I can think of are the first two Sting solo albums. Somebody's gonna say REM, I just know it. Miles: >>I agree with most of this, with partial exceptions for E6 (mostly because of NMH), >>MagFields, the Beta Band, and electroclash. But most of it... yeah. That's the interesting bit, really. You are far more forgiving of that whole E6 thing that I am. E6 was really the defining factor of my fogeyhood. I just didn't see what was so great about a bunch of mostly-okay-but-not-earthshattering power pop bands that I had to follow all of them and buy, like, limited edition Canadian flexi-discs or split-artist singles on colored-wax Edison cylinders and talk about them as if they were the only modern music worth listening to, or be uncool. By the same token, the fact that I was able to write off being interested in those bands based more on their marketing than anything I'd heard of their music said more about me than them, and I recognized that. I'd say your ability to get past that represents some kind of post-fogey phase, or a refinement of the fogey-trope tha I have yet to achieve. >>I remember the first definition I heard of "emo" was "like hardcore, but about >>emotions." But when I actually *heard* "emo" bands, they didn't have the >>sped-up thrash attack or the unintelligible vocals that I associated with >>hardcore. So maybe my "hardcore" definition was off too! Doubt it. I read an article on emo in (I think) the LA Times which tried to ret-con Fugazi as the first emo band. Which I couldn't figger, since I had Fugazi records in high school, and back then they were called "straight-edge". More conventional wisdom has Sunny Day Real Estate as the first emo band, and they don't sound anything like Fugazi, so we're already in trouble. The few emo bands I've knowingly heard actually sound indistinguishable from commercial teeny bopper pop-punk like Blink 182, so that's yet a third sound altogether. And though I'ver never knowingly heard them, that hunky guy from Dashboard Confessional is always shown with an acoustic guitar and I think everyone derides that band as wispy and soft, so that'd be four. Plus I even saw the term applied to the sort-of-Sonic-Youthy-sounding And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead, although, as my friend Mike said of them, "They can't be emo... they don't suck!" Plus it's just a dickish genre name, because, what, most rock music is unconcerned with emotion? The blues are played by robots based on some kind of 12-bar algorithm, and country music is logically constructed by Vulcans or something? La la la, Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:15:32 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Fire fire fire fire, wastepaper-basket fire! > > I have a tendency to forget that you're the ordained voice of common >> sense on the list. Apologies. > >Thanks for proving my point. Riiiiight. Oh, and good luck with getting over the evil cancer of materialism such that, hopefully, one day you'll be able to casually shrug off the personal losses represented by 1500-1600 destroyed homes. I'll cross my fingers for you. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:08:12 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Jenniphyr Juniper JeFFrey: >>>> closed followed by The Jen[n]if[f]ers. >>BTW: when did half of them turn into either "Jen" or "Jenna"? When they realized there were three other Jennifers in their class, maybe? The guys on the KROQ morning show (I know, I know, but it's fairly entertaining and it's over to NPR at 10AM, believe me) have this thing that "any woman named Jennifer must be incredibly hot", which I can't figure out. It's such a common name that it seems like there are plenty of Jennifers with wildly varying degrees of attractiveness. Doesn't even sound like a stripper name to me. - -Rex "now, Taylor... that's a stripper name" Broome ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:22:30 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Must be the smoke that's making me all cranky On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Rex.Broome wrote: > Doubt it. I read an article on emo in (I think) the LA Times which > tried to ret-con Fugazi as the first emo band. Which I couldn't figger, > since I had Fugazi records in high school, and back then they were > called "straight-edge". More conventional wisdom has Sunny Day Real > Estate as the first emo band, and they don't sound anything like Fugazi, > so we're already in trouble. Okay. Imagine it's 1983, and for some reason the word "punk" has only just become well-known. What's "punk"? Talking Heads and Black Flag don't sound anything alike. And half those kids with black leather jackets just listen to The Cure! Are The Cure punk? And what does any of this music have to do with jailhouse sodomy? Shouldn't they have picked a better name? And how can the MC5 and the New York Dolls both be contenders for 'first punk band'? They don't sound alike either! a ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:48:23 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Swedene Subject: PAL to NTSC? My friend brought back the Clash's RUDE BOY from his extended stay in Europe. He saw region 0 and got all sorts of excited. I was wondering if there is a way to copy it on my MAC over to NTSC or something. thanks! mike __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 23:41:58 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Must be the crank that's making me all smoky Quoting "Rex.Broome" : > >>"bands whose early work is great, but way > >>less popular, and saying you like them risks guilt by association with > >>their later, increasingly craptastic work," the sine qua non of which is, > >>of course, Pink Floyd. > > You are, of course, preaching to the choir here, but interestingly saying > that elsewhere would probably either confuse the hell out of people or make > them say, "It's true, they went to hell when Waters quit!" By "increasingly" I actually meant to designate that the quality of the work didn't immediately turn to shit: the first few post-Barrett albums were quite good; they were tolerable from, uh, whatever thing it was came before Dark Side through The Wall; and as far as I can tell, a completely lost cause from then on. > >>I remember the first definition I heard of "emo" was "like hardcore, but > about > >>emotions." I have no idea really what "emo" is, and I have even less of an idea why *anyone* would want to use that word: it's stupid and ugly (and so's your mama). I think it just means "we're punks who've had our hearts broken who've learned to whine and play the occasional major-seventh chord." > Plus it's just a dickish genre name, because, what, most rock music is > unconcerned with emotion? The blues are played by robots based on some kind > of 12-bar algorithm, and country music is logically constructed by Vulcans > or something? You're thinking of "math-blues" and "Spockabilly." ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb :: --Batman ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 23:43:26 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Must be the smoke that's making me all cranky Quoting Aaron Mandel : > And what does any of this music have to do with jailhouse sodomy? "Number 37 said to Number 3 / You're the cutest jailbird I ever did see..." ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: we make everything you need, and you need everything we make :: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:28:16 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Farewell Aldebaran On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Rex.Broome wrote: > Also thought of a few more for the CD wishlist... two records I've never > heard but found out a few years back and was intrigued. Anyone heard either > of these? > > http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=CASS80308142014&sql=A7nz1z8oajy > vn Yes, I've got that one. I used to play it regularly. It's very much a DIY effort, all songs and I think all instruments played by Yester and Henske, done with limited late sixties home-recording technology. 'Snowblind' is the memorable track, and one of the others is distinctly weird ('St Nicholas Hall' possibly? Can't remember). They had a small but distinct cult following at one time. Don't know anything about their 'Rosebud' stuff, but there is a poster here: My guess is that people who liked 'Rainy Day' in the eighties might find that Henske and Yester have a similar vibe (though 'Rainy Day' is all covers, not originals). - - Mike Godwin PS I just found an old Mojo CD of 1965 tracks which includes a good one by the Carnabys. Anybody heard of them? Doesn't seem to be anything on Google. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 06:37:44 -0800 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: Sappy songs It just occurred to me why Tears in Heaven by Clapton and Beautiful Boy by Lennon are so sappy. They're written for the ears of their children. The songs are literally meant to be heard by 5-7 year old boys. Hard to believe in the case of Clapton, but I believe he was half-hoping that his son could SOMEHOW hear the song... just a thought. Barbara Soutar Victoria, B.C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:05:21 -0800 From: "Brian" Subject: Solar Flares to hit the EARTH! Repent now! We're all doomed. Eb and Cap hold hands and make up, it may be your last chance! I hope we get some luminous lights and all are safe. - -- Brian nightshadecat@mailbolt.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:55:19 -0500 From: "Roberta Cowan" Subject: Fletcher's 10-28-03 Hello-- Here is the set list from last night's show at Fletcher's in Baltimore: (acoustic guitar) I'm Only You I Got the Hots Balloon Man The Ghost In You When I Was Dead 1974 ("listening to a Zeppelin 8 track while driving on the beltway...") You Remind Me of You No, I Don't Remember Guildford Uncorrected Personality Traits Keep Finding Me Sleeping With Your Devil Mask Full Moon In My Soul (encores on the opening act's electric guitar which was humming pretty badly) Raymond Chandler Evening I Often Dream of Trains You and Oblivion A good, though short, set to a small crowd on a rainy Tuesday evening. He actually played less time than he was scheduled--the sound man's schedule read 10 - 11:30 and he started a bit past 10 and played until 11:20. Lots of crabcake comments and references to the southwest (something about "cactus to cactus communication" and he said he'd been attending "demon school" in Arizona). One song went out to Cynthia (who was there I think) and her family. Some pictures: Cheers, Roberta ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:36:08 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Jenniphyr Juniper At 06:08 PM 10/28/2003 -0800, Rex.Broome wrote: >The guys on the KROQ morning show (I know, I know, but it's fairly >entertaining and it's over to NPR at 10AM, believe me) have this thing that >"any woman named Jennifer must be incredibly hot", which I can't figure out. >It's such a common name that it seems like there are plenty of Jennifers >with wildly varying degrees of attractiveness. Exactly -- they're legion. Every Paula that I've ever met was smokin' hot, though. Heck, even Paula Prentiss (back on TV on a new sitcom this fall) looks well-preserved. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:48:32 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Guilty! Guilty! Guilty! On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Eb wrote: > > >>6. Eric Burdon & the Animals/The Greatest Hits of Eric Burdon & the > >Animals (1969) > 1. River Deep, Mountain High > 2. San Franciscan Nights > 3. Year of the Guru > 4. Anything > 5. Monterey > 6. White Houses > 7. Winds of Change > 8. To Love Somebody > 9. Sky Pilot Nice. A housemate of mine used to play that one all the time. No, it wasn't that one, I think it was actually called 'Winds of Change', but it certainly had 'Sky Pilot' on it. In the UK, this band were called 'Eric Burdon and the New Animals'. Willi Weider on guitar and fiddle IIRC, just before he joined Family. They never really made an impact in the UK because they spent most of their time in the States. As far as I remember, 'Good Times' and 'San Franciscan Nights' were their only UK hits (query: why isn't 'Good Times' on that 'Greatest Hits'?) The other songs I liked were "When I was young", which was a big US hit but made no impact in the UK; and "Monterey" ('The Grateful Dead blew everybody's minds, yeah'). The only time I saw them was 29th July 1967, Alexandra Palace at a sandalwood-scented all-nighter including the Crazy World of Arthur Brown, the Pink Floyd, Tomorrow, Julie Driscoll and Brian Auger, Blossom Toes etc. Burdon was pretty good, but Arthur Brown blew all the other acts off the stage. Date located at which links to a Steve Howe interview about Tomorrow: > I also have a best-of collection from the early days, but that is > *not* a guilty pleasure. Agreed. tc: > >Ute Lemper - Ute Lemper Sings Kurt Weill Really nothing wrong with that at all. Pure class. Show me the way to the next visky bar. - - Mike Godwin PS Reading through that Steve Howe interview, I realise that I ought to have seen EB&tNA again on that Olympia bill on 22 December: but the main thing I remember about that one was Hendrix. Traffic replaced the Who, the Soft Machine were great, Tomorrow played 'Strawberry Fields', and by all accounts Syd was out to lunch. I just about remember the Move and Graham Bond appearing, but I don't recall Burdon at all. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #403 ********************************