From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #399 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, October 27 2003 Volume 12 : Number 399 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Guilty! [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: [Ebmaniax] BBR [Ken Weingold ] Re: Tears (of Rage) in Heaven [Barbara Soutar ] more on earworms ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: more on earworms [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Baseball in Britain ["Jonathan Fetter" ] Re: Baseball in Britain ["Matt Sewell" ] Re: Baseball in Britain [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Painting OS X's teeth blue ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: Painting OS X's teeth blue [Ken Weingold ] Re: Painting OS X's teeth blue [Steve Talkowski ] Re: Baseball in Britain ["Jonathan Fetter" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V12 #398 [Johnathan Vail ] Re: Guilty! [Tom Clark ] Robyn Acts! ["Rex.Broome" ] RE: Baseball in Britain ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Guilty! [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Tears (of Rage) in Heaven [Jeff Dwarf ] Guilty! Guilty! Guilty! ["Rex.Broome" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 07:29:21 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Guilty! Quoting Eb : > Off and on recently, I've been amusing myself by compiling a list of > my all-time "guilty pleasures." > 9. Oliver/Good Morning Starshine (1969) Gaah! > 15. Jane Siberry/No Borders Here (1984) Not sure why this is "guilty"... > 16. Plasticland/Wonder Wonderful Wonderland (1985) This definitely shouldn't be guilty - great band! A couple other ones on there I like quite well - Tubular Bells, for example. But then, I'm old enough (42 in a month and a half) that that was part of my early teens... Interesting how what one is "supposed" to like changes. I'm unlikely to make a list, but one perennial contender for inclusion on mine would be Gary Numan... ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: we make everything you need, and you need everything we make :: ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:43:39 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: [Ebmaniax] BBR On Sun, Oct 26, 2003, Eb wrote: > I had given up on ever seeing the terminally studio-bound Black Box > Recorder, so I was excited to hear they were booked at the Knitting > Factory (one of only FOUR dates on their entire US tour...the other > three were across the country in New York and New Jersey). I felt the same way. I saw BBR at Maxwells on Thurs. night. I should mention that the biggest thing for me about BBR is Luke Haines. BBR is my least favorite of all his bands/projects. > That said, I was a little disappointed with the show. I enjoyed it a lot. But it simply may have been a better show than yours. Read on. > Black Box Recorder began playing around 10:20pm, and my pre-show > fears were instantly confirmed: *lots* of pre-programmed > accompaniment. This instantly drops a show down to a "B" grade for me. Well besides Luke's little keyboard thing that he used for the one song, the drummer had a laptop (Mac TiBook) for the samples and such, but I didn't find it to be overbearing. Songs like Child Psychology had the voice samples and such. > There were four people onstage: the group's central trio (guitarists > Luke Haines and John Moore, singer Sarah Nixey) plus a younger, > slacker-looking drummer who didn't visually fit with the other > players. Moore must have missed the wardrobe memo because he was > just wearing a tweedish jacket over any old shirt and pants, whereas > Haines and Nixey were costumed to match the new album's dapper > artwork. Haines wore an all-white suit with a hot pink shirt > underneath, whereas Nixey wore the same outfit seen in the photo > under the new album's CD tray. For those who haven't bought > Passionoia, this means she was also wearing a white suit, but hers > had loose elephant sleeves which were cut up to the elbow. Under the > one-buttoned jacket, she was only wearing a hot-pink bra. Chic. > Sexy. Yes, the jacket stayed on throughout the set. First, I thought the drummer fit in perfectly with the band. I didn't think he looked too far apart in age from the rest. But maybe he was dressed differently than your show, or maybe a different drummer, but that I doubt. Luke was wearing the off-white suit with a black shirt, and Sarah was wearing red leather pants with the tight "Life Is Unfair" t-shirt. Hot. But as you said, I didn't think she was all that hot up close. I was right in front, and Maxwells has a capacity of only about 200. > As for the others, Moore's most outstanding feature was his > bright-red guitar, which had a novel rectangular body. He rarely > caught my eye, but Haines had a bit more flair as a performer. He > mostly played electric guitar (the same guitar throughout, I > believe?), but also fumbled a tiny one-finger keyboard for one track. > All other keyboard parts were pre-programmed, as were even some > backing voices. The drums were heavily programmed too, and it often > seemed as if the onstage drummer was simply "decorating" the recorded > tracks rather than driving the beat himself. Note: Some terribly > foolish woman I know claims that I *look* like Luke Haines, but I'd > say he's more of a cross between actor Jeffrey Jones and a > bleached-blond Van Morrison. Tsk. Well Sarah was about as you described her, but I found myself watching Luke pretty much the whole time. This was the first time I ever got to see him live. I went to see The Auteurs in 1995, but as I was waiting for the show we found out that the entire tour had been canceled. So we got Rasputina in their place. But Luke had the acoustic plus two black Les Pauls, one with no pick guard and one with a white one. One of them he ended up not playing after the first song or so. I wonder if there was a problem with it. But I was wondering if they were even his Les Pauls. One of them had a huge white sticker on it that said "Black Box Recorder - Gibson Les Paul". I've never seen a band actually put something like that on a guitar. > I can't recite a setlist, and indeed, I haven't fully digested > Passionoia yet so I can't recognize most of the songs. The new album > has more of a disco flavor than the previous two, which I don't mind > so much, but I do mind that the lyrics are less resonant for me. > They're heavy on the sex-kitten whispering, and light on the past > bitchiness and social critiques. It's a softer, more romantic tone, > and not as distinctive. In any case, the night's older songs included > "England Made Me," "Straight Life" (I kept picturing Bryan Ferry > singing this), "The Facts of Life" (on record, just about the sexiest > song I've ever heard...onstage, not so much), "The English Motorway > System" and the semi-infamous "Child Psychology." The latter's > repeated refrain of "Life is unfair/Kill yourself or get over it" > didn't sit very well with me, during the week of Elliott Smith's > demise. Elliot Smith never once entered my mind during Child Psychology. I like the song a lot. Plus as you know it's from 1998 and probably a staple at their shows ever since. > One final demerit: The set was unusually short. Minus the one-song > encore ("Child Psychology," I think?), the main set's body was only > about 45 minutes. No time for any surprises or witty cover songs. I think our set was longer. As I said, this was the first time I ever got to see Luke live, though I've been a huge fan since the early to mid 90s. I expected him to be serious and dark. On the contrary, he smiled a lot and was quite talkative. The whole band seemed to have a really good time playing together overall. And they seemed to enjoy the show. I grabbed the setlist: . Only thing different was that they ended with Lord Lucan Is Missing since they said we were such a great audience. Luke called it their party song or something like that. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 06:06:46 -0800 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: Re: Tears (of Rage) in Heaven Last word on the topic for me: at least when Clapton hears that song on the radio or wherever, he can think: "Conor is not forgotten". Having a blank space where a loved one used to be is worse than having a song. And has anyone compared this song to Lennon's "Beautiful Boy"? People get all gooshy and seem to lose their cynical wit when they talk about their darling children. Barbara Soutar Victoria, BC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 9:28:50 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: more on earworms Some researcher claims that he coined the phrase in 2000, but I think we were usig it before then: Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 15:33:48 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: more on earworms - -- "Stewart C. Russell" is rumored to have mumbled on Montag, 27. Oktober 2003 9:28 Uhr -0500 regarding more on earworms: > Some researcher claims that he coined the phrase in 2000, but I think we > were usig it before then: You're right. The term "Ohrwurm" has been used in German forever, so he definitely did *not* "coin" it. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:03:27 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Baseball in Britain Finally saw "28 Days Later" and I wondered why one of the weapons being used was a baseball bat. Seems to me that that would be as likely as me using a cricket bat to fight the infected here in central Pennsylvania. A quick web search turned up links to several British baseball clubs. I had no idea. Whenever I've talked sports with a Brit, there was always the inevitable cultural exchange of baseball and cricket rules explanations. Jon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 15:11:08 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: Baseball in Britain It seems that baseball bats are used as the blunt instrument of choice over here, which I've always found rather strange as I've not seen baseball played here before (though no doubt there are baseball teams). I've seen rounders in the park, but a rounders bat is much smaller... it seems that baseball bats here are used more in beatings than in sport. Cheers Matt >From: "Jonathan Fetter" >Reply-To: "Jonathan Fetter" >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Baseball in Britain >Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:03:27 -0500 (EST) > >Finally saw "28 Days Later" and I wondered why one of the weapons >being used was a baseball bat. Seems to me that that would be as >likely as me using a cricket bat to fight the infected here in central >Pennsylvania. > >A quick web search turned up links to several British baseball clubs. I >had no idea. Whenever I've talked sports with a Brit, there was always >the inevitable cultural exchange of baseball and cricket rules >explanations. > >Jon - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your hands on designer bargains for less - click here. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:15:05 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Baseball in Britain - -- Jonathan Fetter is rumored to have mumbled on Montag, 27. Oktober 2003 10:03 Uhr -0500 regarding Baseball in Britain: > Finally saw "28 Days Later" and I wondered why one of the weapons > being used was a baseball bat. Seems to me that that would be as > likely as me using a cricket bat to fight the infected here in central > Pennsylvania. Baseball bats are somehow obligatory weapons for gangs, even though baseball itself isn't popular. > A quick web search turned up links to several British baseball clubs. I > had no idea. Whenever I've talked sports with a Brit, there was always > the inevitable cultural exchange of baseball and cricket rules > explanations. Finding a few baseball clubs doesn't mean anything. There are two here in Cologne (the Cologne Cardinals and the Cologne Dodgers) and I've been to several games, but nobody cares about it and the level of playing is abysmal. I can't really say, but I guess the players here couldn't even compete in A baseball in the US. Hmm, I just read that they got a new stadium - maybe I should give them another chance next season ... Cheers, Sebastian - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:19:45 -0500 From: "Dudich, Luther" Subject: Clapton???? IRRC, Clapton had another tune on his unplugged special (but not the album) called something like "the Circus left town", which was a bit darker take on his sons death. It was a much better song...so of course it didn't become a radio staple at all... To some extent, He can't be blamed for people embracing some pap pop song just because it has the word "Heaven" in the title --- Also see "Stairway to Heaven" (dismissed by Bob Plant as "some junk I wrote in 15 minutes while Jimmy Page and I were smoking hash at a English cottage"). Now, if only the public would have widely embraced Robyn's song about addiction "heaven" so widely.......:) - -lwwd ______________________________________________________________________ ________________________ On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Jason R. Thornton wrote: > How, really, is Clapton's behavior any different than Robyn Hitchcock > recording, releasing and performing "The Yip Song"? I don't recall The Yip Song having a video featuring clips from a Jennifer Jason Leigh movie, for one. Also, Robyn had an interesting take on a unique experience, whereas Clapton wrote some dumb crap about going to heaven and being sad. There was nothing personal about Clapton's song. It was engineered for universal appeal. > Neither artist can really control the amount of popularity they have, > or their sales. An "artist" (or musical performer, in this case) can control whether or not their work is pimped to every video and television market on Earth. > But each is in a situation where they're selling a product to the > general public, and that product is a song about the death of a loved > one. And Clapton made damned sure everyone KNEW that it was about his dead son. There was no attempt at all to let the song stand on its own as a creative work. The emotional ploy was central to the marketting of his product. It was implicit in the facile lyrics and then re-iterated in press release, talk show appearance, and promo single sleeve. J. - - -- The song, however, was dumb crap. But Clapton's failure to create great art in this case is not an indicator that he purposefully created crap just take advantage of the situation for nothing but personal monetary gain. >There >was nothing personal about Clapton's song. Bullshit. It was extremely personal, just not very well executed. >It was engineered for >universal appeal. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:26:00 -0600 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Painting OS X's teeth blue I'm about to acquire a Sony Ericsson T616, and I'd like to communicate with it via Bluetooth in OS X. Can someone recommend a good Bluetooth adapter (are they all USB, are do they do Firewire, too?). Also, general comments about the iSync/cellphone thing would be cool, too. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:32:47 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Painting OS X's teeth blue On Mon, Oct 27, 2003, Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > I'm about to acquire a Sony Ericsson T616, and I'd like to communicate with > it via Bluetooth in OS X. Can someone recommend a good Bluetooth adapter > (are they all USB, are do they do Firewire, too?). I don't have any Bluetooth devices (or even an adapter), but the D-Link USB one seems to be the one to use. I think that a FireWire Bluetooth adapter would be pointless. I don't think Bluetooth could even reach the speed potential of USB 1.1. It's a very slow protocol. > Also, general comments about the iSync/cellphone thing would be cool, too. Just play with it. It's really simple to set up. I did it with mt Motorola V60c and USB data cable. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:48:16 -0500 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: Painting OS X's teeth blue On Oct 27, 2003, at 10:26 AM, Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > I'm about to acquire a Sony Ericsson T616, and I'd like to communicate > with > it via Bluetooth in OS X. Can someone recommend a good Bluetooth > adapter > (are they all USB, are do they do Firewire, too?). Hey Gene, I purchased the D-Link DBT-120 USB Bluetooth adapter about 2 1/2 months ago to use with my then new Sony Ericsson P800 (the P900 was just announced last week and I REALLY want to trade up for it *sigh*): I no longer need it now that I've upgraded my Powerbook to one with built-in Bluetooth. I paid $50 for it - make me an offer and it's yours. > Also, general comments about the iSync/cellphone thing would be cool, > too. Apple just released iSync 1.3 which supports even more of the newer phones. I've been able to pair my device with the Powerbook and get my address book and calendar transferred. Btw, if you're thinking of upgrading to Panther be sure to back up. I foolishly rushed to do the upgrade when my discs arrived on Friday and the install froze numerous times. Spent the entire day Saturday trying to figure it out and was on the phone with Applecare for about an hour. Sunday morning I decided to try removing one of the 512K RAM DIMMS and *presto*, Panther installs. Apparently, OSX 10.3 is extremely picky with RAM. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:20:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Re: Baseball in Britain > Baseball bats are somehow obligatory weapons for gangs, even though > baseball itself isn't popular. I seem to remember baseball bats were used in "A Clockwork Orange." They certainly were used in the American film "The Warriors." So I guess gangs are smuggling baseball bats into the UK? Jon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:26:09 -0500 From: Johnathan Vail Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V12 #398 From: Dr John Halewood Subject: RE: carry on Eb (ElBroome@earthlink.net) scribbled: > Yup...a whole lot of crap. It seems to be a guaranteed phrase in any > formulaic top-40 ballad about getting over a breakup. Which is why I > developed my theory. The theory that I have and which is mine and > what it is, too. I'm suprised nobody's mentioned "Carry on my Wayward Son" by Kansas yet... That was my first favorite real song and I had to get the 8-track of that album. Yes, I am that old. jv <- so the Soft Boys hand a little to the left or right? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:06:02 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Guilty! on 10/27/03 12:19 AM, Eb at ElBroome@earthlink.net wrote: > 18. Brian Stevens/Prettier Than You (1996) No reason to feel guilty about that one. I'd say it's in my top 40 list of all time faves. But that's just me. A couple of guilty pleasures come to mind, but I'm having a hard time coming up with 40... - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:02:09 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Robyn Acts! >>The members of this cult [...] will hold up records such as Fegmania! (1985), >>Globe of Frogs (1988) and Queen Elvis (1989) as some of the best ever made >>by anyone. Hmmm... this cultist only rates one of those among the best ever made by *Robyn*. >>... Hitchcock said from a hotel near Tucson, Ariz., where hes recording >>and playing a small part in yet another Demme film, a remake of >>The Manchurian Candidate. So that's it. I think it's cool. He talked about ants again in the interview, so he seems to have fully moved from ocean- to land-dwelling arthropods, which fits in with the desert thing. Any word on the circumstances of the recording sessions, or is that no longer of interest here on claptonsuxmaniax? (I assume he's not actually recording in the hotel, as this indicates, but who knows these days.) ______ Also thought of a few more for the CD wishlist... two records I've never heard but found out a few years back and was intrigued. Anyone heard either of these? http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=CASS80308142014&sql=A7nz1z8oajy vn http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=CASS80308142014&sql=Akt0qoaeabi jd ____ Jason T: >>So, be advised that in the future when you mention that you are "going to >>see The Soft Boys," you are all from now on talking about viewing my nuts. >>Enjoy! Well, it's doubtful that we'll get to go see them again, but that doesn't take away from the usefulness of the phrase. To wit: "When I'm feeling down and out, nothing picks me up faster than spinning my Soft Boys". Plus, it vastly increases the number of people who can be said to have "played with the Soft Boys". Oh yeah... good stuff. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 14:07:34 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Baseball in Britain Sebastian wrote: >Finding a few baseball clubs doesn't mean anything. There are two here in >Cologne (the Cologne Cardinals and the Cologne Dodgers) and I've been to >several games, but nobody cares about it and the level of playing is >abysmal. I can't really say, but I guess the players here couldn't even >compete in A baseball in the US. Isn't ice hockey starting to be more popular in Germany? I have noticed more German hockey players getting drafted by the NHL in the last few years. Michael B. NP Tift Merritt Bramble Rose ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:23:18 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Guilty! So I sat in front of my CD collection, which is completely unsorted, and used this criteria: If I had this CD playing in my car with the windows down, and I stopped next to a car occupied by what appeared to be a fairly "cool" person (like Eb perhaps), would I turn it down or roll up the windows? I could only find 35 though. Mark Olsen & The Original Harmony Ridge Creek Dippers - My Own Jo Ellen Laibach - Let It Be The Doors - The Soft Parade Yes - Close To The Edge Steely Dan - Two Against Nature Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti Marshall Crenshaw - Marshall Crenshaw ELP - Brain Salad Surgery Esquivel - Cabaret Manana The Coolies - Doug The Flatlanders - More A Legend Than A Band The Simpsons - Songs In The Key Of Springfield Paul Weller - Stanley Road Gumball - Super Tasty Foo Fighters - Foo Fighters Dread Zeppelin - Un-Led-Ed Jeff Beck - Wired Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here Robert Earl Keen - No. 2 Live Dinner Donald Fagen - The Nightfly The Cult - Electric Roxy Music - Avalon MC 900FT Jesus - Welcome To My Dream The Beatles - Let It Be Robin Trower - BLT The Pursuit Of Happiness - Love Junk The Police - Outlandos D'Amour Vince Guaraldi - A Charlie Brown Christmas Joe Jackson - Night And Day Various Artists - If I Were A Carpenter (Carpenter's Tribute) Iris Dement - Infamous Angel Lyle Lovett - Pontiac Ute Lemper - Ute Lemper Sings Kurt Weill Paul Carrack - Suburban Voodoo The High Llamas - Cold And Bouncy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:37:27 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Guilty! Eb wrote: > 4. The Soup Dragons/This Is Our Art (1988) I have Lovegod and the one after it. Only out of the 10 for $15 bin. > 30. The Wonder Stuff/The Eight Legged Groove > Machine (1988) > 37. Blur/Leisure (1991) Neither is either bands best work, but I wouldn't call them guilt-worthy. "Give Give Give Me More More More" and "She's so High" are both great little pop tunes, and "There's no Other Way" and "A Wish Awy" (not to mention "Astley in the Noose"!) both pretty damn good too. I also have both Cause & Effect albums (also from the "please take this shit" bin) and greatest hits records from Duran Duran (the last one), Culture Club/Boy George (the one released to capitalize on "The Crying Game"), Tears for Fears, and Thompson Twins. Mostly presents. No Eric Clapton though. ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:42:05 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Tears (of Rage) in Heaven Barbara Soutar wrote: > And has anyone compared this song to Lennon's > "Beautiful Boy"? The vomitous glurge to good song ratio is probably highest in "songs about the kids." Lennon did get it right with "Good Night" though. But even Andy Partridge, after getting it right with "Garden of Earthly Delights" (probably the best rock song about being a parent) but then subjecting us to "Pink Thing" and "Holly Up on Poppy." > People get all gooshy and seem to > lose their cynical wit when they talk about their > darling children. I suspect parenthood has a similar effect in general though. I know people who are generally pretty skeptical and biting, but when it comes to their children, drop quickly towards sentimental and gooey (though thankfully they know it). Was even raised by one. ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:58:48 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Guilty! Guilty! Guilty! Guilty Eb: >>I really should "explain" each entry, but jeez...too much time required. :) But we might have to quiz you about some. This is gonna be tough for me since I delude myself into thinking I don't have much to be guilty about, but my "no sell-back" rule really results in some real corkers remaining in my collection. I just forget about 'em, which means I don't listen to them, therefore deriving no pleasure from them, guilty or otherwise. I'll look and see what I have. Meanwhile, per Eb's picks, which are veddy interesting (in a good way): >>3. Jesus Jones/Liquidizer (1989) We've talked about this one before. I loved it when it first came out and still kinda dig it. >>6. Eric Burdon & the Animals/The Greatest Hits of Eric Burdon & the Animals (1969) This is also kind of "Best of the Animals Vol II", right... with the black'n'blue cover with the long version of "Sky Pilot", "San Francisco Nights", that stuff? I can see the embarassment factor with the hippy dippiness, but I don't feel too guilty about having this one. >>7. Mono/Formica Blues (1997) This one's a snoozer, though. I cop to a taste for this kind of thing, but I got no personality out of these guys other than "Sneaker Pimps are too dark and Saint Etienne is too fun". The association kept me away from Violet Indiana, too. >>10. The Partridge Family/Greatest Hits (1989) This is in my collection but I bought it for my wife. >>11. The Beach Boys/The Beach Boys Love You (1977) No problem here! >>12. The Lemon Pipers/Green Tambourine (1967) >>13. The Cowsills/Captain Sad and His Ship of Fools (1968) I'd actually like to hear both of these. Yo, my brother-in-law has been jamming with Susie Cowsill in New Orleans. It always kinda trips him out when I've heard of some of the people he mentions (Continental Drifters, etc.). >>19. Emerson, Lake & Palmer/Tarkus (1971) Hee. Knew it was coming, but still... >>23. Ride/Tarantula (1996) God, I take no pleasure in that one at all. Have it, though. >>24. Chickasaw Mudd Puppies/8 Track Stomp (1991) Too obscure to be embarassing. I still like it. It's no worse than some of the similar acts of recent years who've been hyped to the gills for a similar roots/novelty combination. >>25. Mike Oldfield/Tubular Bells (1973) Wife has this on vinyl... came in handy for my Halloween compilations a few years back (about which more below). >>28. The Moog Cookbook/The Moog Cookbook (1996) Comes in handy when looking for a funny track when making mix discs for non-music -geeks. >>30. The Wonder Stuff/The Eight Legged Groove Machine (1988) Because it's less mature than the later stuff, or is the band itself a guilty pleasure? I don't feel too guilty about this one. >>33. Roger McGuinn/Back from Rio (1991) Yeah, I can see that. >>34. Donovan/Donovan's Greatest Hits (1969) cf. the Burdon record, I see the reason for guilt, but experience none myself. This very record is on my desk right now, but I also have the "Troubador" collection. >>35. Bis/The New Transistor Heroes (1997) Never figured out if I really like this or not. >>37. Blur/Leisure (1991) Guilty, yeah, but I feel better about seeing this on the shelf than I would if their last two albums were there. >>38. Alanis Morissette/Supposed Former Infatuation Junkie (1998) Can't beat that. Interestingly, I've just finished this year's "Halloween Party Disc" (Robyn's contribution to the 2003 edition being "The Face of Death") and it strikes me that quite a few of the questionable discs in my library were dollar-bin pickups for one tune I wanted on my Halloween comp for that year. Obviously I've been doing those compilations, and hosting those parties, for a looong time, since well before music-file-sharing technology caught up with me. Which stands to reason, since looking at my stack of Halloween discs I calculate that it amounts to about thirty-two hours of non-stop, non-repeating, Halloween/horror-themed music, movie sound-clips, spooky sound effects and whatever else I had lying around at the time. Track listings available upon request. - -Rex, guilt-list forthcoming ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #399 ********************************