From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #397 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, October 25 2003 Volume 12 : Number 397 Today's Subjects: ----------------- BTW [Eb ] Re: BTW [Aaron Mandel ] PS [Eb ] Re: Tears (of Rage) in Heaven [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: whole lotta yip [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Tears (of Rage) in Heaven [Eb ] Re: Tears (of Rage) in Heaven [Eb ] Re: whole lotta yip [Capuchin ] Re: the Velvet Underground--Squeeze ["Stewart C. Russell" ] SIBL project (25%RH) & NYC show [mary ] Re: SIBL project (25%RH) & NYC show ["Maximilian Lang" ] reap [Jeff Dwarf ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:12:13 -0700 From: Eb Subject: BTW That longest-CD list was interesting, Ken.... Even though I don't keep explicit track of such things, I had a decent idea what my longest CDs were. And based on that list, I guess that I was right (yup, Foetus/Sink and Trout Mask Replica were the top-rankers from my collection). I wouldn't have recalled that Can/Unlimited Edition was in third place, though. Or that XTC/Rag & Bone Buffet came after that (not counting the Lenny Bruce album, which I have on a cassette). I didn't remember that "I'm Your Fan" was especially lengthy, either. It did have some apparent duplications, though. Like near the bottom, it listed both "Tribute Roky Erickson" and "Where the Pyramid..." with a two-second gap between them. And there was something similar with "The Sweet/Collection" and "The Sweet/The Sweet Collection" (with a three-second disparity). Two Layla's too, though I guess one was the version with bonus tracks. Anyway.... What is that 77-minute REM disc called "It's the End of the..."? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:23:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: BTW On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Eb wrote: > What is that 77-minute REM disc called "It's the End of the..."? I have a bootleg by that name (from back when Italy, rather than the Internet, provided such things) but it's only about 70 minutes long. Still, I would guess a lot of unauthorized R.E.M. discs had that title at one point... a ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:24:07 -0700 From: Eb Subject: PS http://www.urbanlegends.com/misc/cd/longest_cds.html I notice that the list is also posted at the above URL, so feel free to just bookmark this page and toss your text file, Ken. ;) Too bad that no one has updated this list -- it's almost 11 years old!? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:17:50 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Tears (of Rage) in Heaven Quoting "Rex.Broome" : > Well, we all agree that the song fuckin' sucks, right? Except for your distant cousin, I guess. As > such, and > considering that it's what, six years old, I really can't > believe we're > still talking about it. Twelve, apparently - according to a google search, which also yielded the following: In the public interest, here are the lyrics: - ---------------- Tears In Heaven by Eric Clapton and Will Jennings Would you know my name If I saw you in heaven? Would it be the same If I saw you in heaven? I must be strong And carry on, 'Cause I know I don't belong Here in heaven. Would you hold my hand If I saw you in heaven? Would you help me stand If I saw you in heaven? I'll find my way Through night and day, 'Cause I know I just can't stay Here in heaven. Time can bring you down, Time can bend your knees. Time can break your heart, Have you begging please, begging please. Beyond the door, There's peace I'm sure, And I know there'll be no more Tears in heaven. Would you know my name If I saw you in heaven? Would it be the same If I saw you in heaven? I must be strong And carry on, 'Cause I know I don't belong Here in heaven. - ----- BTW, you'll note that Clapton didn't write the lyrics: he had Will Jennings, hired gun, pen them for him. > > I also honestly don't think I know what any of the lyrics are > except the > first line of the first verse and the last line of the chorus. > If it's a > bland and lame as I assume it is, I dunno what ever made you > guys pay as > much attention to it as you did. I posted my one post about it after the first person mentioned it, because it's a thought I'd had about the song years ago. > And I'm nonplussed at why Clapton's being singled out > for this drubbing. Well, his name came up - and, in the words of Elvis Costello, "it just seems to be his turn." ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: we make everything you need, and you need everything we make :: ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:15:24 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: whole lotta yip >Ok, I don't post to the list very often at all, so I may have no right >whatsoever to say this, but that's never stopped me before, so... am I the >only person who at first found this debate interesting because both parties >are clearly intelligent and eloquent and have put much thought into the >opinions they're expressing, but who now, after a full day of incessant >back-and-forth bickering, is sick to death of it? possibly you are. I bet a lot more of us rolled our eyes when the subject first came up and then simply scrolled past the rest of it and waited for it to stop. James PS - more for the wishlist: Godley & Creme's "Ismism", "Freeze Frame", and "L"; Rain parade's "Crashing Dream" and "Beyond the Sunset"; Warren Zevon's "The Envoy"; The full albums of Robert Fripp's "God Save the King" and "League of Gentlemen"; "Urgh! A music war". James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:27:15 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Tears (of Rage) in Heaven >Tears In Heaven >by Eric Clapton and Will Jennings > >I must be strong >And carry on, >'Cause I know I don't belong >Here in heaven. Admittedly, I do have this weakly tested theory that, with the exception of the same-named CSNY song, pretty much every song which contains the lyric "carry on" is kinda lame. No? >Time can bring you down, >Time can bend your knees. >Time can break your heart, >Have you begging please, begging please. Hm, I can't remember the melody of the bridge. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:34:39 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Tears (of Rage) in Heaven >>Tears In Heaven >>by Eric Clapton and Will Jennings >> >>I must be strong >>And carry on, >>'Cause I know I don't belong >>Here in heaven. > >Admittedly, I do have this weakly tested theory that, with the >exception of the same-named CSNY song, pretty much every song which >contains the lyric "carry on" is kinda lame. No? Oops, the CSNY song and "Bohemian Rhapsody," I mean. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:45:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: whole lotta yip On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, James Dignan wrote: > "Urgh! A music war". Do I hear an "Amen"?!? Amen, brother. Every freakin' track. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 07:53:15 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: the Velvet Underground--Squeeze HSatterfld@aol.com wrote: > > www.efolkmusic.org Thanks for that, Hollie -- I've just noticed they have three Uncle Dave Macon releases that I don't have -- whee! Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 06:43:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Tears (of Rage Against the Machines of Loving Grace) in Heaven Jason Robert Thornton wrote: > Clapton never "used his dead son" to promote a film, but > a SONG ABOUT his dead son was used in another work of > art, a movie, which was also a commercial product. > That's an important distinction to make. For that matter, the song is _PART_ of a film score ("Rush") that was Clapton's first "major" project after his son died, so it's not like he just threw out there to be shoved onto whatever film was being squeezed onto whatever movie soundtrack that the people at Warner Bros were trying to flog that week. And because Conor Clapton's death was such public incident (even spectacle, sadly), it would have been utterly impossible for Eric Clapton to have released a song about his son without it receiving a tremendous amount of attention. ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:28:59 +0200 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Today's chuckle Sent from a friend: Take a close look at the pictures of the item listed. - - c ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:57:06 -0400 From: mary Subject: SIBL project (25%RH) & NYC show Found this link on memepool for the "Songs Inspired by Literature" project: http://www.siblproject.org/famous.html On the list that they have Iron Maiden leads with the most, followed by Neil Peart. Nothing surprising there - when I think of literature-related songs Iron Maiden is the first to pop into my mind. I had no Idea that Kate Bush's "Get Out of My House" took inspiration from "The Shining." So what songs are missing from the list? Any Robyn songs? "Raymond Chandler Evening" isn't about a book but perhaps it would count. Have we already discussed this topic before? Also, who's going to the NYC show on Halloween? I know LJ, Ken, Tim, Steve T., etc. will be there, anyone else? I can offer up overnight accommodations but there will be boxes everywhere - I'm changing residences on Sunday the 2nd. (Anyone that's around that day, feel free to help me move. Food and drink will be provided.) : ) s.Mary np - Radiohead "Kid A" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:08:59 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: SIBL project (25%RH) & NYC show >From: mary >Subject: SIBL project (25%RH) & NYC show >Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:57:06 -0400 >Also, who's going to the NYC show on Halloween? I know LJ, Ken, Tim, Steve >T., etc. will be there, anyone else? I will be there, I am staying at Tim's place. Max _________________________________________________________________ Send instant messages to anyone on your contact list with MSN Messenger 6.0. Try it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:33:34 -0700 From: Jason Robert Thornton Subject: Re: SIBL project (25%RH) & NYC show On Saturday, October 25, 2003, at 10:57 AM, mary wrote: > Found this link on memepool for the "Songs Inspired by Literature" > project: > > http://www.siblproject.org/famous.html "Mists of Avalon" was first published the same year "Avalon" came out, right - 1982? I hadn't heard that the song was based on that particular book, and kind of suspect they were just both influenced by the same source materials. Anyone know for sure? There were a couple of other songs on "Diamond Dogs," like "We Are The Dead" and "Big Brother" that were inspired by "1984" besides just "1984." And Bowie released a song titled "Seven Years in Tibet," before the film came out, based on the book. Sylvian penned a song "Of Laughter and Forgetting," drawing from the Milan Kundera novel. - --Jason ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:12:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: SIBL project (25%RH) & NYC show On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, mary wrote: > So what songs are missing from the list? Any Robyn songs? Of course, "My Wife And My Dead Wife" comes from _Blythe Spirit_. That's the only one that came to mind in the fifteen seconds I spent thinking about it. > Have we already discussed this topic before? Yes. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:27:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: reap Rosie Nix Adams, daughter of June Carter. As bad as this year has been death wise in general, it's been truly horrible for the Carter/Cash clan (especially if you include Howie Epstein dying late last year, since he was Carlene Carter's boyfriend at the time). ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #397 ********************************