From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #392 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, October 24 2003 Volume 12 : Number 392 Today's Subjects: ----------------- zap! [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: a question about ols SanFran music [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dign] unexpected suck [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] RE: Stiff discipline after UK schoolboys' Viagra prank ["Glen Uber" ] More unissued ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: Since it's a lost cause to try not to be morbid... [grutness@surf4nix] And... ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: And... [Miles Goosens ] RE: Record Geek Eye for the Mainstream Rock Guy [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Still Walking On Sunshine [Mike Swedene ] Re: Still Walking On Sunshine [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Still Walking On Sunshine [Tom Clark ] God bless the ballgame [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Unissued wishlist [Ken Weingold ] Re: a question about ols SanFran music [Michael R Godwin ] Re: a question about ols SanFran music [Carrie Galbraith ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:40:29 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: zap! Is someone trying to tell them something? James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:51:25 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: a question about ols SanFran music knowing some of you are steeped in the lore of the Haight-Ashbury sound of the late 60s, I've a question. I've recently been listening to the "Uncut" magazine Byrds-influence CD of a couple of months back. There's a piece of aural ambrosia on there from a group I was previously unaware of called The Sons of Champlin. What stuff of theirs is available, and, if there's a bit of it, where is the best place to start? James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:59:34 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: unexpected suck >>Has anyone actually heard the Reedless, Yuleful VU album... did it ever >exist on CD? > > I have it but have only listened to it once or twice (over 10 years >ago). I just remember that I thought it sucked horribly. hm. this may start a new thread.... has anyone here ever been vaguely interested in a group and decided to investigate the first album by that artist they found - only to accidentally pick out one that was a festering heap of pig dung? I was put off the music of Country Joe & the Fish for a long time by borrowing a copy of Country Joe's solo "Rock & Roll Music from the Planet Earth", which doth suck mightily. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:03:38 -0700 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: RE: Stiff discipline after UK schoolboys' Viagra prank This one time at band camp, Brian Huddell wrote: >I think I'd rather hear a 90-minute guitar solo. > >+brian (mine glows in the dark) in New Orleans Your guitar glows in the dark? Cool! - -g- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:12:56 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: the Velvet Underground--Squeeze >>Has anyone actually heard the Reedless, Yuleful VU album... did it ever >exist on CD? > >I'd be really annoyed to >see it get re-issued when albums like "Live at the Portland Arms", "The Name >of This Band is Talking Heads", and the Slickee Boys "Cybernetic Dreams of >Pi" are all unlikely to get legitimately released on CD. For that matter, >I'd really like to see a CD copy of Sam Kinison's first album, "Louder Than >Hell" with his Charles Manson/Monkees rant on it. The first 2 Adrian Belew >albums (Lone Rhinoceros & Twang Bar King) finally got released on CD, but >only in Japan. What kind of stuff would wind up on your wish-lists? they did? Sigh. I'd love them (and TNOTBITH) on CD. Also on the list: Joe Jackson's soundtrack to "Mike's Murder", Shriekback's "Jam Science", Edgar Froese's "Ages", the original "Paul Simon Song Book" (recorded and issued between the first two S&G albums). Also - from NZ - the Toy Love album, and Fetus Productions' "Luminous Trails". I've also been hunting for years for the long out-of-print Pete Shelley solo albums, the two Summers and Fripp albums, and Blue Oyster Cult's "Mirrors" (actually, the last one may have been rereleased - I haven't checked in a while). >>okay, though. Dee Dee Ramone is a reminder that you're never too old to die >>from all the smack and speed that should have killed you ages ago, so... >>Uncle Lou? Stephen Stills? Topper Headon? > >I can't belieeeeve that Shane MacGowan is still walking around. I can't believe Joe Cocker's still here, either. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:34:50 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Unissued wishlist Marc Holden: >>The first 2 Adrian Belew albums (Lone Rhinoceros & Twang Bar King) finally >>got released on CD, but only in Japan. What kind of stuff would wind up on >>your wish-lists? Excellent question. I made my own CD's of the following, so that tells you something: - --Neil Young, Time Fades Away (Masterpiece! And no, not reissued yet) - --Neil Young, Journey Thru the Past (piece of shit, but the only one left after TFA) - --The Name of This Band is Talking Heads (with the definitive Love --> Building on Fire, the unreleased New Feeling, and unbelievable takes on Houses in Motion and Drugs) - --Pylon, Gyrate - --Pylon, Chomp (probable twofer with above) - --David Byrne, Knee Plays (silly but fun) - --Miracle Legion, The Backyard (shut up!) - --Miracle Legion, Surprise Surprise Surprise (seriously, shut up) - --Athens, GA Inside Out (soundtrack) - --Charles Brown Superstar, Days of Our Drive / Sweet Piece of Ass - --Robyn Hitchcock, Mossy Liquor I would certainly like to have: - --John Cale, Caribbean Sunset (That's just never-issued... out-of-print is too hard to suss out these days.) Eb: >>Richard Lloyd/Alchemy Available now at Collector's Choice! Hasn't aged well, though. Came out at the same time as the reissue of Verlaine's solo debut, thus getting to suffer by comparison once again. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:39:51 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: More unissued Michael B: >>Game Theory Lolita Nation Famously "issued but rare and costly"... unless you find one in the used bin at the Wherehouse (ducks to avoid hail of stones...) - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:31:56 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Since it's a lost cause to try not to be morbid... So amnny threads - so little time... five musicians that would affect me most to hear of popping their clogs? A tough one, and, as whoever started this said, depends on how and when they go. I think I was affected by ES despite not knowing his music well because of the manner of his death, and similarly, I didn't know Johnny Cash's music as well as I perhaps should have, but the status was the thing. With Warren Z, I've loved his music for years, so that was a tough one from that standpoint. I'm deliberately leaving people I know well personally (such as Martin Phillipps and David Kilgour) off the list. Other than those, I think of currently extant musicians: 1) Brian Eno 2) Robyn Hitchcock 3) Neil Finn 4) Chris Knox 5) Lou Reed of other famous people... hmmm... there are several sports people on the list, but that's becuase of the fact that they seem young, fit, unbreakable. I was actually thinking the other day who it was, out of famous people I've never met, whose death affected me the most. It would be a toss-up between John Lennon and Lillian Board. Board was a British athlete who died of cancer when I was about seven. I can still remember thinking when I heard about it "that's not right - dying's what old sick people do." One of those revelatory, mind-changing 'nature is a cruel mother' moments. Anyways, famous people other than sports and music people. Fromt he world of movies, I think it would really suck to hear of the death of Kevin Spacey, Alan Rickman, Samuel L Jackson, Ben Kingsley, or Nicole Kidman. From the world of politics the only name that stands out is David Lange. I could make a case for one or two world leaders not from the point of view of "they will be missed' but from the point of view of "uh-oh - all hell will break loose now" (Arafat is one of those, for instance). From other fields of fame, Ralph Hotere, Terry Pratchett, Stephen Hawking, and Edward Luci-Smith are among many names that spring to mind. James PS - on hearing of Bob Hope's death, Alice said "I didn't think that was possible - isn't there a law against him dying or something?" James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:36:36 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: And... ...was Portland Arms really never on CD? Not that I have a copy of it, but what I have a copy of looks like its original version might've been legit (on Midnight Records). Or is it just supposed to look that way? What's amazing is how much stuff like this *has* come out recently. The Neu! catalog, those four Neil records, a wealth of '80's Southern College rock (Let's Active/Guadalcanal Diary/Oh-OK)... and some nifty stuff in limited portions courtesy of Rhino Handjob. Umm... make that Rhino Hand*made*... I'm clearly getting my threads crossed here. On the other hand, did "Cut the Crap" even make the, er, cut the last time last time the Clash catalog got done over? Or has it joined VU/Squeeze, Bunnymen/Reverberation, that Doors record etc. in the "pretend that didn't happen" file? JeFFrey: >>>Talking Heads/The Name of This Band is Talking Heads >The classic example: very odd, since for a while there, the band was even >popular... I think several things happened here. A) The record didn't sell that well originally. B) The band put out another live record documenting the very next tour after the one on TNOTBITH disc two, and it sold way better at the time. C) Thanks to the movie and its reputation, plus its various reissues on VHS, DVD etc. "Stop Making Sense" is still well-remembered and thus by default became "the" live Talking Heads record, even eventually getting reissued in an expanded version. D) SMS has a live take of the band's biggest hit (Burning Down the House) and a version of Once in a Lifetime that became a hit on its own. Neither on is on Name. Damn shame, though. Great live record Also, excuse my ignorance, but what is "Rainy Day"? ___________ Eb: >>I can't belieeeeve that Shane MacGowan is still walking around. Keith Richards clause... some kind of deal-with-the-devil, Dorian Gray type deal? See also Mark E. Smith. >>Or how about the down-and-out Kirkwood brother? Inevitable but hard to predict when. See also Bob Stinson (again) or counterexample Topper Headon (again). JeFFrey: >>Now hear this, Robert Zimmerman... Possible Keef Klause Kase. The deal with the devil could've been done more recently in Bob's case, which would explain why suddenly he can make good records again. I think Keith signed his contract way back when Brian Jones kicked off. - -Rex np. if I had it with me would be some damn Yardbirds, the early stuff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:33:50 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: And... Rex: >JeFFrey: >>>>Talking Heads/The Name of This Band is Talking Heads >>The classic example: very odd, since for a while there, the band was even >>popular... > >I think several things happened here. > >A) The record didn't sell that well originally. >B) The band put out another live record documenting the very next tour after >the one on TNOTBITH disc two, and it sold way better at the time. >C) Thanks to the movie and its reputation, plus its various reissues on VHS, >DVD etc. "Stop Making Sense" is still well-remembered and thus by default >became "the" live Talking Heads record, even eventually getting reissued in >an expanded version. >D) SMS has a live take of the band's biggest hit (Burning Down the House) >and a version of Once in a Lifetime that became a hit on its own. Neither >on is on Name. E) TNOTBITH is a two-LP set that is longer than 80 minutes, i.e., the capacity of a normal CD. Warner Brothers says to the band "we'll lose money on a two-CD reissue; cut it down to one CD and we'll put it out." Band says "No way, we want the whole thing on CD or we won't do it at all." Warner Brothers doesn't do it all. It actually got a catalog number in '87, but Sire/WB was going to do the truncated single-disc version, which the band nixed. I think they did this little dance again a couple of times in the '90s, too. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 02:40:22 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: RE: Record Geek Eye for the Mainstream Rock Guy - -- "Jason R. Thornton" is rumored to have mumbled on Donnerstag, 23. Oktober 2003 13:24 Uhr -0700 regarding RE: Record Geek Eye for the Mainstream Rock Guy: > At 01:17 PM 10/23/2003 -0700, Capuchin wrote: > >> I mean, we're talking about a guy that made millions exploiting the >> death of his own son. > > Oh, man. You really are a fucking idiot. Why? AFAIK that's pretty much straight on and even seems to the the common assessment of what happened. I like "Layla" and other early Clapton, though. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:53:17 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Various uncredited blurbs >And I'm also pretty sure the Richard Lloyd, if not >reissued now, was available on Celluloid for a short while. I dunno about that. Celluloid had a couple of other Lloyd releases, but I don't know about Alchemy. >TwinTone never really recovered and I believe it's possible that >Ophelias album Eb mentioned was available at one point (yowza Eb, I haven't >heard that name in a very very long time). I'm pretty certain that it didn't come out. The next album The Big O did, though (and I have it). Damn, I wish I had seen that band play. One of the biggies which I missed. >Now there's another good label (Big Time) that >went down with much of their catalog still remaining unavailable. At least Neurotica finally got reissued. And outside of the Jazz Butcher, didn't most of the other worthwhile stuff come out too? (Usually on Beggars Banquet?) Too bad no one bothered to pick up those Dumptruck records, though. Whole lotta intriguing overlap in these CD wish lists...I've seen some items (Athens, GA - Inside & Out and Bloody Nonsense, for instance) which would have been on a slightly longer version of my own list. >But what Clapton was, and what Clapton is, is one of the more dramatic >declines in popular music (along with, off the top of my head, Jefferson >Airplane, Stevie Wonder, and maybe Rod Stewart. Oh - and Santana.) Good list, though I'm not sure Stevie Wonder's decline is *that* dramatic. The Pretenders and Prince? >Elliot Smith's death bothers me a whole lot less than Marvin Gaye's death >or John Lennon's. Both murders. Who knows how much more great music we >would have by both of them had their lives not been stolen. I wouldn't have been too optimistic about the future offerings of either of those dudes. I mean, did you really want to hear a polished version of "Forgive Me, My Little Flower Princess"? And I will never figure out why people think "Sexual Healing" is such a masterpiece. >I was really really really >depressed by Waylon Jennings' death, and it was made worse by the fact that, >in urban Los Angeles and among peole my age, I really couldn't find anyone > else who gave a shit. Jennings' son (Waylon Jr., aka "Shooter") actually lives in urban Los Angeles, so I imagine his circle gave a shit. Lawndart knows him well - -- I went to a party at his house once. > > I can't belieeeeve that Shane MacGowan is still walking around. Or >> how about the down-and-out Kirkwood brother? > >Now hear this, Robert Zimmerman... Dude! Don't even think it. I instantly think of Dylan, Tom Waits and Costello as far as musicians who shouldn't die, but I'd have to work to figure out a whole top 5. Beck, Andy Partridge, Rufus Wainwright, Thurston Moore? PJ Harvey? Bjork? Dunno. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:08:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Still Walking On Sunshine More money for Kimberly Rew!! They just played our favoritest song by him at the end of the second Inning of the world series game tonight while going off to commercial. (**thus bringing the queer eye & and sports threads together!!) Has anyone else noted the appearance of Paul Westerberg on SNL as a musician with the band recently?? Mike np -> nothing.... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 03:24:10 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Still Walking On Sunshine - -- Mike Swedene is rumored to have mumbled on Donnerstag, 23. Oktober 2003 18:08 Uhr -0700 regarding Still Walking On Sunshine: > More money for Kimberly Rew!! > They just played our favoritest song by him at the end > of the second Inning of the world series game tonight > while going off to commercial. (**thus bringing the > queer eye & and sports threads together!!) Yup, I noticed that as well ;-) I missed last night's game, because I was too tired, but tonight I'm pumped up: I just got back from a private R.E.M. show - first they perfomed "Bad Day" for TV Total, which is a very sucky Letterman rip-off. Michael Stipe though the host was "a very funny guy", but in fact he's a jerk who mostly makes jokes at the cost of other people, usually those who can't defend themselves ... I'd been invited to that show by R.E.M.'s office because I'm a fan club member - it's a bit embarrassing, what can I say. It's worth it ;-) After that it turned out that there was a private concert scheduled for later this evening. That one was hosted by a local radio station and I was *not* on the guest list. My stars stood right, I guess, because I managed to get into that show as well. We had to wait forever and it started shortly after midnight, but they played about 12 songs and they *rocked*! I haven't heard them this noisy in a long time. The last song was "Permanent Vacation", one of their earliest songs, unrecorded, which I only knew by name. After that Peter Buck motioned everyone to come on stage. I did go, but then I didn't know what to do. Michael Stipe had fled, Pete Buck seemed somewhat intoxicated, Mike Mills was happily signing autographs, but that kind of situation is not for me. R.E.M. are in many ways my ultimate favorite band. I've briefly talked to Pete Buck a couple of times when I was very young, I was introduced to Michael Stipe when I was on tour with the Feelies, but I *never* had a real conversation with any of them. Just saying "the show was great" wouldn't do anything for me and everything else would take a different situation - maybe it's better that way. I might be disappointed. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:14:22 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Wish List >> What kind of stuff would wind up on your wish-lists? On Thursday, October 23, 2003, at 03:27 PM, John Barrington Jones wrote: > Bill Nelson - Getting The Holy Ghost Across Along with the "Living For The Spangled Moment" EP which came out at the same time. Some US releases of the Man catalog would be nice. And Red Temple Spirits reissues. And the live Rock Love by The Steve Miller Band, although I've never picked up Number 5 on CD. A quick look at Amazon and Allmusic show that most all of the Sons Of Champlin stuff is in print. - - Steve - ---------- The Himalayan marmot is one of the highest living mammals in the world. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 19:21:01 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Still Walking On Sunshine on 10/23/03 6:08 PM, Mike Swedene at pulp_101@yahoo.com wrote: > Has anyone else noted the appearance of Paul > Westerberg on SNL as a musician with the band > recently?? Are you sure about that? I know the guitarist kinda looks like him, but I didn't think it actually was him. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:44:25 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: God bless the ballgame Doesn't it make you sick that "Take Me Out To The Ballgame" has been replaced by "God Bless America" for 7th inning stretch? I prefer it to the anthem lyric-wise, but it's still a disgusting display of utter self-absorption. Michael Stipe tonight: "Picture yourself living in the USA in 2003". Then they played "Exhuming McCarthy" ... - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 01:41:38 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Unissued wishlist Not sure if this is mentioned, but I wish Pink Floyd would release a soundtrack for The Wall already. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:20:08 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: a question about ols SanFran music On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, James Dignan wrote: > knowing some of you are steeped in the lore of the Haight-Ashbury sound of > the late 60s, I've a question. I've recently been listening to the "Uncut" > magazine Byrds-influence CD of a couple of months back. There's a piece of > aural ambrosia on there from a group I was previously unaware of called The > Sons of Champlin. What stuff of theirs is available, and, if there's a bit > of it, where is the best place to start? I ought to know, but I don't, apart from the fact that it's 'Champlain' with two a's. I associate them with the Charlatans and Clear Light, if that's any help. Glen? On the CJ Fish front, the first album stands out from everything else, and if you can get earlier stuff (demos etc) they are usually good too. The second album has the famed "Fixin' to die rag" on it, and as far as I'm aware 'Together' and later albums are greatly inferior. I do like Joe's "Paris Sessions", however. - - Mike Godwin PS re Ashton Gardner and Dyke: The only time I saw Tony Ashton was on the Family farewell tour. He's on their final album "It's only a movie", which I see is now available on CD with bonus live tracks: Check it out! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:24:04 +0100 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Confessions of a feg monkey... Words of wisdom, Brian... I don't mind Cappy slagging off long guitar solos as only for stoners - Christ, I expect it. But the vagaries of his sexual organs and how they work... *vomits* And I don't think that long guitar solos are for stoners only - Ash Ra Tempel's first album is basically 2 long guitar works and for appreciation of it, well, dope is optional! Cheers Matt, not necessarily beautiful... >From: "Brian Huddell" >Reply-To: "Brian Huddell" >To: >Subject: RE: Stiff discipline after UK schoolboys' Viagra prank >Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:22:52 -0500 > >Jeme: > > > And I don't know about you, but doing it myself is almost > > never going to make me actually lose an erection... and even more rarely > > only one orgasm regardless of stimulus. > >The key phrase here is "I don't know about you", which is exactly the way it >should be. > >I think I'd rather hear a 90-minute guitar solo. > >+brian (mine glows in the dark) in New Orleans - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Half price modem, FREE connection and one month FREE - click here to sign up to BT Broadband. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:05:52 +0200 (GMT+02:00) From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: a question about ols SanFran music On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, James Dignan wrote: There's a piece of > aural ambrosia on there from a group I was previously unaware of called The > Sons of Champlin. What stuff of theirs is available, and, if there's a bit > of it, where is the best place to start? While I'm not THAT old, I admit to having an older brother who drove the family VW bus up to SF on weekends to go to the Fillmore and at one point, around '67 or so, he told me that if I didn't listen to his music he'd not talk to me. (older brothers, sheesh - fortunately mine was stationed in the States by '70 so he never actualy saw Vietnam.) So I tuned in to KPPC and put a few pics of Jim Morrison and the Airplane up in my room and started reading his cast off magazines, one was titled Circus or maybe Cream? I don't remember. Hey, I was like 9, you know? This is the same brother that took me to my first concert in '68 - Donovan. But it was hanging out with the NoCal crowd in the mid-70s (they were older too) that turned me on to the Sons of Chaamplain and I still have a few of their records in storage somewhere. I have no idea if they were ever released on cd. I seem to recall they were a very local band, only my native NoCal/Deadhead friends seemed to be aware of them. Don't know if this helps but I do remember "digging" their sound... A presto, - - c ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:18:50 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: a question about ols SanFran music On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Carrie Galbraith wrote: > So I tuned in to KPPC and put a few pics of Jim Morrison and the > Airplane up in my room and started reading his cast off magazines, one > was titled Circus or maybe Cream? I don't remember. Hey, I was like 9, > you know? Probably both. I have a fine copy of Circus somewhere featuring the story "Rabies fear after Allan Lanier of Blue Oyster Cult is bitten by angry rabbit". - - MRG PS Found out last week that Cartagena in Spain was given its name becaus it was founded by the Carthaginians. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:39:16 +0100 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: Unissued wishlist Aah, you're bringing back such fond memories of TNOTBITH... can't believe this album's not on general release - it's (imho) one of the greatest ever live albums... Interesting you should mention The Miracle Legion - there are people round these parts who wet their pants at the very mention of the name - hence Mark whossisname from that band plays over here every now and again... The Unbelievable Truth (defunct Oxford band featuring Thom Yorke's bro Andy on vox) were huge fans... I never really "got" them, though... Apparently, Tim Buckley's Starsailor is ungetholdofable, too... what is the world coming to? Cheers Matt >From: "Rex.Broome" >Excellent question. I made my own CD's of the following, so that tells you >something: > >--Neil Young, Time Fades Away (Masterpiece! And no, not reissued yet) >--Neil Young, Journey Thru the Past (piece of shit, but the only one left >after TFA) >--The Name of This Band is Talking Heads (with the definitive Love --> >Building on Fire, the unreleased New Feeling, and unbelievable takes on >Houses in Motion and Drugs) >--Pylon, Gyrate >--Pylon, Chomp (probable twofer with above) >--David Byrne, Knee Plays (silly but fun) >--Miracle Legion, The Backyard (shut up!) >--Miracle Legion, Surprise Surprise Surprise (seriously, shut up) >--Athens, GA Inside Out (soundtrack) >--Charles Brown Superstar, Days of Our Drive / Sweet Piece of Ass >--Robyn Hitchcock, Mossy Liquor > >I would certainly like to have: >--John Cale, Caribbean Sunset > >(That's just never-issued... out-of-print is too hard to suss out these >days.) > >Eb: > >>Richard Lloyd/Alchemy > >Available now at Collector's Choice! Hasn't aged well, though. Came out at >the same time as the reissue of Verlaine's solo debut, thus getting to >suffer by comparison once again. > >-Rex - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keep in touch whilst on the go - get selected Hotmail sent to your mobile phone. Click here for details. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #392 ********************************