From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #391 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, October 23 2003 Volume 12 : Number 391 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Stiff discipline after UK schoolboys' Viagra prank [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: the Velvet Underground--Squeeze ["Marc Holden" ] RE: Record Geek Eye for the Mainstream Rock Guy [Capuchin ] Re: Stiff discipline after UK schoolboys' Viagra prank [Capuchin ] RE: Record Geek Eye for the Mainstream Rock Guy [Eb ] RE: Stiff discipline after UK schoolboys' Viagra prank ["Brian Huddell" <] RE: Record Geek Eye for the Mainstream Rock Guy [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffre] Re: the Velvet Underground--Squeeze [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: the Velvet Underground--Squeeze ["Roberta Cowan" ] Re: Since it's a lost cause to try not to be morbid... [Capuchin Subject: Re: Stiff discipline after UK schoolboys' Viagra prank marcy wrote: > It was only a matter of time..... > ___________________________________________________ > > The following appeared on Boston.com: > Headline: Stiff discipline after UK schoolboys' Viagra > prank > Date: 10/23/2003 > > "Six British schoolboys were rushed to hospital after > taking the erection-enhancing drug Viagra at lunchtime > for a dare, the school said Thursday." What's really sad is that these kids were so dumb they needed to go to the hospital to "solve" the problem. Not that having six kids whacking it in the school restroom is a pleasant idea, but I doubt they'd be the first to pull their pud on campus. ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:38:49 -0700 From: Eb Subject: RE: Record Geek Eye for the Mainstream Rock Guy a They Might Be Giants devotee wrote: >Rex was writing about "serious" rock collections. I don't think Santana >or The Allman Brothers have any place there... unless it's a "seriously >stoners" record collection. I don't personally own any Santana or Allmans albums, but the above comment is bullshit. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:55:58 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: RE: Record Geek Eye for the Already Geeky Guy Ken: >>2A) AT LEAST 6 DYLAN ALBUMS I thought about it. Some people just won't do Dylan... too many preconceptions, usually inaccurate ones. But you're right, and I don't even think it would be too hard to dictate which six. >>6) Nuggets, in some form. Preferrably the first boxed set. >>FUNNY, NOVEL, BUT NOT ESSENTIAL Now, see here! Is too! >>HOLLY, ELVIS, CHUCK BERRY AND BO DIDDLEY ARE ESSENTIAL I'm at 75% here, having never been able to pin down a definitive Diddley compilation. Recommendations welcome! >>9) A "punk rock" record recorded before 1992, by someone other than the >>Clash or the Sex Pistols. >>BUZZCOCKS, WIRE, RICHARD HELL, RAMONES, ELVIS COSTELLO ARE >>ESSENTIAL Exactly what I was driving at... add Patti Smith, Television, thre Damned, etc. Plus I left the timeframe open enough to include both older stuff if you count it (Modern Lovers, NY Dolls, MC5 etc.) and 2nd generation semi-punk stuff (X, Mission of Burma, Husker Du, the recently discussed Dead Kennedys, etc... again if you count them, hence the quotes around "punk rock") >>9A) CULT INFLUENTIAL ARTISTS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANY OF >>THE ABOVE TO CREATING A TRUE GEEK: {snip} I run 100% on these bad boys. >>9B) SOUL >>SAM COOKE, ARETHA FRANKLIN, MARVIN GAYE, AL GREEN, JAMES >>BROWN, SLY AND THE >>FAMILY STONE, PRINCE IF YOU DON'T LOVE THEM YOU STILL BETTER >>KNOW THEM! And a sorry 50% on these. I'd say my lack of Prince records is maybe the third- or fourth-most-mentioned omission from my record collection (behind jazz, post-Barret Floyd, and name-that-grunge-superstar-band-who-I-hate-or-am-indifferent-to). - -Rex "albinos call me honky" Broome ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:01:08 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: RE: RErun REap >>Hey, hey, hey. Fred Berry, aka "Rerun" from "What's Happening". Age 52. Yikes. Last time I saw him was on Scrubs... on which John Ritter also guested. Watch out Brendan Fraser and Heather Locklear, I guess. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:04:00 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Re: the Velvet Underground--Squeeze >Has anyone actually heard the Reedless, Yuleful VU album... did it ever exist on CD? I have it but have only listened to it once or twice (over 10 years ago). I just remember that I thought it sucked horribly. I've never seen a CD copy of it, and I don't ever expect to find one. I'd be really annoyed to see it get re-issued when albums like "Live at the Portland Arms", "The Name of This Band is Talking Heads", and the Slickee Boys "Cybernetic Dreams of Pi" are all unlikely to get legitimately released on CD. For that matter, I'd really like to see a CD copy of Sam Kinison's first album, "Louder Than Hell" with his Charles Manson/Monkees rant on it. The first 2 Adrian Belew albums (Lone Rhinoceros & Twang Bar King) finally got released on CD, but only in Japan. What kind of stuff would wind up on your wish-lists? Later, Marc I wish everybody would have to have an electric thing implanted in our heads that gave us a shock whenever we did something to disobey the president. Then somehow I get myself elected president. Jack Handey ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:17:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: RE: Record Geek Eye for the Mainstream Rock Guy On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Bachman, Michael wrote: > Jeme wrote: > >Rex was writing about "serious" rock collections. I don't think Santana > >or The Allman Brothers have any place there... unless it's a "seriously > >stoners" record collection. > Duane Allman was just some stoner guitar player than? Yes. > I don't think so. Yeah? What about The Dead? Convincing people to pay to watch you dick around on guitar for 90 minutes doesn't make one an important musician. > The Brothers "Live at The Fillmore East" is one of the great live rock > albums of all time. Would it be to smug to simply type "*yawn*"? > Why don't you try trashing Layla for your next trick? Clapton is nothing but a coke-addled hack and if he'd been born black instead of white he'd be a second-rate blooz-rock also-ran. He's a soul-less marketeer who pimps out co-opted culture and calls it art. I mean, we're talking about a guy that made millions exploiting the death of his own son. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:24:44 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: RE: Record Geek Eye for the Mainstream Rock Guy At 01:17 PM 10/23/2003 -0700, Capuchin wrote: >I mean, we're talking about a guy that made millions exploiting the >death of his own son. Oh, man. You really are a fucking idiot. - --Jason ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:27:22 -0700 (PDT) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Re: the Velvet Underground--Squeeze On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Marc Holden wrote: > >Has anyone actually heard the Reedless, Yuleful VU album... did it ever > exist on CD? > What kind of stuff would wind up on your wish-lists? Later, Bill Nelson - Getting The Holy Ghost Across Thompson Twins - A Product Of, Set, and In the Name Of Love Yes, let the public mockings begin. =jbj= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:45:46 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Who's next? >>Nipple Alarm in Schloss Bellevue One more for the "sounds like a Fall song title" file. ___ JeFFrey: >>And I can't begin to imagine how much you'd have to hate yourself >>to kill yourself by *stabbing* - it's beyond my ability to >>understand. Yeah. That's hard to get your head around. It occurred to me last night that I was this close to attending what surely must've been one of Smith's last shows... a Kinks tribute with my neighbor's band on the bill. I keep meaning to see the band (although I hear their rehearsals almost daily) and I thought that would be a good bet, since even if the other bands on the bill sucked, they'd at least be playing Ray Davies tunes. And while I wasn't an Elliott Smith fan, I could see him as a good mid-period Davies interpreter. But something came up, as usual. I'm also kind of dreading all the work I'm sure I'll be doing finding, pulling and shipping Smith's master tapes for Dreamworks Records in the coming weeks... I feel kind of ghoulish being involved in that, but hey, gotta pay the bills. >>I think Death's just clearing the lists - any other musicians in >>poor health still around? Well, it hasn't been limited to musicians this year, but Luther Vandross is still a possibility, and like I said, Chan Marshall seems really fucked up in a Smith-like fashion. I'm personally worried on behalf of some of C&W's living legends, just because they're going fast... Willie & Haggard seem okay, though. Dee Dee Ramone is a reminder that you're never too old to die from all the smack and speed that should have killed you ages ago, so... Uncle Lou? Stephen Stills? Topper Headon? Seriously, that's been in the offing for years. _____ Jeme: >>Oh, see, I was referring to jazz having influence on DECENT or IMPORTANT >>rock music. Rex was writing about "serious" rock collections. Heh. But I'll give Michael props for choosing Coltrane, who *did* exert some positive influence... inspiring "Eight Miles High" is enough to make up for anything else. That said, it's precisely those guys who go on and on about Coltrane but have only three jazz albums-- and they are, like, "A Love Supreme", "Bitches Brew" and something by Brad Mehldau where he covers Radiohead songs-- that I never ever want to become. Not that I'd stab myself to prevent it, but, you know... that's lame. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:35:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Stiff discipline after UK schoolboys' Viagra prank On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > What's really sad is that these kids were so dumb they needed to go to > the hospital to "solve" the problem. Not that having six kids whacking > it in the school restroom is a pleasant idea, but I doubt they'd be the > first to pull their pud on campus. Um, dude? Viagra is not a sex-drive drug. It gives you an erection, period. It's not a desire that can be sated, but a physiological condition that endures for the time the drug has effect. And I don't know about you, but doing it myself is almost never going to make me actually lose an erection... and even more rarely only one orgasm regardless of stimulus. But that is almost GSS-like Too Much Information. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:39:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: RE: Record Geek Eye for the Mainstream Rock Guy On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Eb wrote: > I don't personally own any Santana or Allmans albums, but the above > comment is bullshit. Well, thank you for your well-considered and thoughtful input. It was definitely enough to change my mind. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:40:17 -0500 From: "Iosso, Ken" Subject: RE: Record Geek Eye for the Already Geeky Guy Honky Rex writes: "I'd say my lack of Prince records is maybe the third- or fourth-most-mentioned omission from my record collection" Well, dude, buy the Hits/B Sides now! So many tasty interesting joyful sexy tunes it could blow your mind and your wad: Erotic City, How Come U Don't Call me Anymore?, Kiss, When You were Mine, 7, If I was your girlfriend...oh so much music and so little time. Ken Iosso ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:42:16 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: the Velvet Underground--Squeeze > >>I think Death's just clearing the lists - any other musicians in >>>poor health still around? > >Well, it hasn't been limited to musicians this year, but Luther Vandross is >still a possibility, and like I said, Chan Marshall seems really fucked up >in a Smith-like fashion. I'm personally worried on behalf of some of C&W's >living legends, just because they're going fast... Willie & Haggard seem >okay, though. Dee Dee Ramone is a reminder that you're never too old to die >from all the smack and speed that should have killed you ages ago, so... >Uncle Lou? Stephen Stills? Topper Headon? I can't belieeeeve that Shane MacGowan is still walking around. Or how about the down-and-out Kirkwood brother? >What kind of stuff would wind up on your wish-lists? It used to be so easy to gripe about what wasn't available on CD, when CDs were a new, emerging medium. But now that they've been around for awhile, and so many labels and bands have come and gone, it's damn hard to know what is and isn't print anymore. For just one, I think it's sad that the major Olivia Tremor Control releases are already out of print, so relatively soon after their arrivals. I never found out what brought Flydaddy down.... Here are a few favorite albums which I think *never* came out on CD? I could be wrong. Brian Eno/Music for Films Volume 2 Charles Wuorinen/Time's Encomium Christmas/In Excelsior Dayglo Daniel Lentz/On the Leopard Altar David Byrne/Music for The Knee Plays Emitt Rhodes/The American Dream Jurgen Knieper/Music by Jurgen Knieper From "The American Friend," "The State of Things" and "River's Edge" National Lampoon/Radio Dinner Neil Young/Time Fades Away Richard Lloyd/Alchemy Talking Heads/The Name of This Band is Talking Heads The Merry-Go-Round/The Best of the Merry-Go-Round The Ophelias/Oriental Head Toy Love/Toy Love Various Artists/Rainy Day Wild Man Fischer/An Evening with Wild Man Fischer Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:44:04 -0700 From: Eb Subject: RE: Record Geek Eye for the Mainstream Rock Guy >On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Eb wrote: >> I don't personally own any Santana or Allmans albums, but the above >> comment is bullshit. > >Well, thank you for your well-considered and thoughtful input. It was >definitely enough to change my mind. I don't believe anyone really worries too much about changing your mind anymore. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:14:50 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: the Velvet Underground--Squeeze At 01:04 PM 10/23/2003 -0700, Marc Holden wrote: >Hell" with his Charles Manson/Monkees rant on it. The first 2 Adrian Belew >albums (Lone Rhinoceros & Twang Bar King) finally got released on CD, but >only in Japan. What kind of stuff would wind up on your wish-lists? T-Bone Burnett, TRAP DOOR EP and PROOF THROUGH THE NIGHT (could be put on one CD easily) From the obscurantist department: Simon F, GUN (preferably a GUN/GUN CONTROL combination gathering all the different takes, and if room, some of the 12" mixes) Joey Wilson, GOING UP later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:27:09 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Since it's a lost cause to try not to be morbid... Eb: >>Now, the Beatles comparison doesn't entirely hold up, because I >>know damn well that I'll be crestfallen when McCartney dies, even >>though his creative ships have 90% sailed. You are being kind... I'd say the guy's been negating his creative karma for years. I'll be sad to see him go, but I think Harrison's death affected me more than Mac's will. Since this year's momentum of mortality an morbidity seems unstoppable, here's something that's both death-oriented and FUN! Sort of. A friend of mine recently asked me-- this would've been right after Cash died, which he knew I was bummed about-- "Which five living musicians do you anticipate being most personally affected by their deaths?" Which on the surface is almost like, name your top five favorite musical artists, but it's a little more complex than that. There are major mitigating factors such as: 1) How /when they go. Dying young with potential changes things, and you can't predict these kind of things. Ultimately I like and value the music of, let's say, Willie Nelson more than the music of Jeff Tweedy, but Tweedy's death (if it happened now) would probably affect me more deeply. 2) Media coverage of the death. This could cut either way, really, when coupled with your level of identification with the artist. For example, take McCartney and Dylan. When either one goes, it'll be impossible to escape their music or endless remembrances and appreciations of them in the media for months. I'd guess that in McCartney's case, since he's done so much solo stuff I don't care about at all, the effect on me will be, wow, all these people like McCartney so much more than I do... whereas in Dylan's case, where many of his tunes have very personal meaning to me, the media blitz is almost guaranteed to sweep me along and make it hurt worse. 3) Level of fame. Often the death of an obscure artist that you love (and feel a sort of ownership of) can hit harder than that of better-known one you like equally (or even more). Dunno why... because it makes you feel more alone in your grief? I remember feeling really, really shitty for days when I found out that Bob Stinson had died. Way worse than when Kurt Cobain did. That just doesn't make sense, but there it is. 4) Just logistically... some of your favorite artists are bands, so, barring a Skynyrd-style blaze of glory, the band members probably won't perish together. So you'd have to choose a representative to mourn. Certainly Paul and Ringo could be two of your top five. Anyways, I gave it some (er, clearly too much) thought and came up with something lame like this: 1) Neil Young 2) Bob Dylan 3) Peter Buck 4) Tom Verlaine 5) "Weird Al" Yankovic Even harder... what five public figures (not limited to music) would hurt you the most to lose? (Maybe that covers too much ground and should be a Top 10 instead...) - -Rex "The Grim Reaper of Love" Broome ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:36:14 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: errata Me: >>1) Neil Young >>2) Bob Dylan >>3) Peter Buck >>4) Tom Verlaine >>5) "Weird Al" Yankovic Erm, obviously that last one should be "Robyn Hitchcock". Or "Kristin Hersh". I mean, "Roger McGuinn". Make that "Bob Mould". Or "Lucinda Williams"... or maybe "John Cale"? Shit. Oh yeah, and it should be noted that you can do that kind of "isolated mourning" thing even for really famous people if you don't happen to be around anyone else who cares about them. I was really really really depressed by Waylon Jennings' death, and it was made worse by the fact that, in urban Los Angeles and among peole my age, I really couldn't find anyone else who gave a shit. (Maybe if Waylon had hooked up with Rick Rubin and done some Marilyn Manson covers, he would've died cooler.) - -Rex "quite probably John Cale" Broome ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:22:52 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: Stiff discipline after UK schoolboys' Viagra prank Jeme: > And I don't know about you, but doing it myself is almost > never going to make me actually lose an erection... and even more rarely > only one orgasm regardless of stimulus. The key phrase here is "I don't know about you", which is exactly the way it should be. I think I'd rather hear a 90-minute guitar solo. +brian (mine glows in the dark) in New Orleans ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:19:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: RE: Record Geek Eye for the Mainstream Rock Guy On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Capuchin wrote: > > Why don't you try trashing Layla for your next trick? > > Clapton is nothing but a coke-addled hack and if he'd been born black > instead of white he'd be a second-rate blooz-rock also-ran. He's a > soul-less marketeer who pimps out co-opted culture and calls it art. > > I mean, we're talking about a guy that made millions exploiting the > death of his own son. Uh, did you miss your bus today? Painfully stub your toe in the shower? Knock a tooth out after tripping down a staircase? Anyway: most of the above comments are true in the present tense - esp. the one about his son (that song's being made a hit has always bothered me). But what Clapton was, and what Clapton is, is one of the more dramatic declines in popular music (along with, off the top of my head, Jefferson Airplane, Stevie Wonder, and maybe Rod Stewart. Oh - and Santana.) You're free to dislike the music, of course - but it sounds more like you're extending a personal dislike of Clapton's motives onto the music. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ::"Shut up, you truculent lout, and let the cute little pixie sing!":: np: some old thing by The Move ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:26:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: the Velvet Underground--Squeeze On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Eb wrote: > > >>I think Death's just clearing the lists - any other musicians in > >>>poor health still around? > I can't belieeeeve that Shane MacGowan is still walking around. Or > how about the down-and-out Kirkwood brother? Now hear this, Robert Zimmerman... > >What kind of stuff would wind up on your wish-lists? > Brian Eno/Music for Films Volume 2 Part of that box set, no? > Neil Young/Time Fades Away Wasn't this just reissued? > Richard Lloyd/Alchemy I think this one was... > Talking Heads/The Name of This Band is Talking Heads The classic example: very odd, since for a while there, the band was even popular... > Various Artists/Rainy Day Definitely released, on Rough Trade - I have it. - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::it's not your meat:: __Mr. Toad__ np: still that old Move CD - I think their last one, reissued a few years back deceptively titled. But what the hell was up with the funny voices and genre exercises? The other tracks are great, though... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:32:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: RE: Stiff discipline after UK schoolboys' Viagra prank On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Brian Huddell wrote: > Jeme: > > > And I don't know about you, but doing it myself is almost > > never going to make me actually lose an erection... and even more rarely > > only one orgasm regardless of stimulus. > > The key phrase here is "I don't know about you", which is exactly the way it > should be. The women on the list may regard this thread as payback for the "oppressive udders" thread - or rather, it can become that once they start participating and making some of us guys uneasy. - --Dr. Paul Stiffner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:45:38 -0800 From: "Brian" Subject: Re: Smith/Lennon/Gaye Eb wrote: For instance, the Beatles are my favorite band ever, but I feel a lot sadder about Smith's death than I felt about George Harrison's because, well, George played his hand long ago. I really don't even care whether I ever hear Brainwashed or not. But damn...there was a lot of good music left in ES. - -------------- Along that sort of thinking, at least Smith decided to take his own life. Completely true that had he decided to remain here, we'd have many more good tunes from him in the future. Elliot Smith's death bothers me a whole lot less than Marvin Gaye's death or John Lennon's. Both murders. Who knows how much more great music we would have by both of them had their lives not been stolen. At least Elliot made the (selfish) decision himself. - -- Brian nightshadecat@mailbolt.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:54:47 -0400 From: "Roberta Cowan" Subject: Re: the Velvet Underground--Squeeze First Eb, then Jeff: > > Various Artists/Rainy Day > > Definitely released, on Rough Trade - I have it. Yes, I have it also. And I'm also pretty sure the Richard Lloyd, if not reissued now, was available on Celluloid for a short while. I am still amazed at the havoc caused by the demise of Rough Trade more than a decade ago. TwinTone never really recovered and I believe it's possible that Ophelias album Eb mentioned was available at one point (yowza Eb, I haven't heard that name in a very very long time). I'm also pretty sure the Christmas album was also. Now there's another good label (Big Time) that went down with much of their catalog still remaining unavailable. Jazz Butcher Bloody Nonsense anyone? I know it was issued somewhere in the world very briefly. As was Marti Jones' Unsophisticated Time. I did have a dream once that I found Rain Parade's Crashing Dream on CD somewhere. Demolition just doesn't cut it I'm afraid. Cheers, Roberta ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:24:33 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: By the way... ... has anyfeg yet coined the term "Reap Year" in reference to 2003? Cuz seriously. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:11:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Since it's a lost cause to try not to be morbid... On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Rex.Broome wrote: > Even harder... what five public figures (not limited to music) would > hurt you the most to lose? (Maybe that covers too much ground and should > be a Top 10 instead...) By "public figures" do you just mean "famous people"? Sort of folks who would qualify for Stiffs.com or something? It's a really tough one. I'm usually quite surprised at who effects me and who doesn't. For example, I was really bummed to hear about Gregory Peck and even Buddy Ebsen, though I couldn't even begin to guess at that beforehand. Off-hand, I'd say I'll be pretty seriously dazed if, in the next couple years, we lose Chomsky, Biafra, Bill Murray, either John from They Might Be Giants, Richard Stallman, Ward Cunningham, Alan Cox, Brian Dewan, Bob Odenkirk, David Byrne, Al Franken... maybe Peter DiFazio... I wish I could pick a former or current world leader, but none really have my heart. I'm sure I'm forgetting someone absolutely vital, but this is off the top of my head. Maybe Ward Cunningham isn't exactly a "public figure"... J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:31:24 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: the Velvet Underground--Squeeze At 05:54 PM 10/23/2003 -0400, Roberta Cowan wrote: >Now there's another good label (Big Time) that >went down with much of their catalog still remaining unavailable. Jazz >Butcher Bloody Nonsense anyone? I know it was issued somewhere in the world >very briefly. There was a CD momentarily, I think during a blue moon for five minutes between 2:55 and 3:00 AM. I've never seen one. I keep hoping to win a CD copy of THE GIFT OF MUSIC next time I see one on eBay, since it's the only other place besides the even-rarer BLOODY NONSENSE CD that the original version of "Southern Mark Smith" is on CD. All the other comps and the album version on A SCANDAL IN BOHEMIA use the "Big Return" mix, which the band likes best. Incidentally, there's another JBC comp coming out soon, which I'm convinced will unbalance the current 1:1 ratio between "regular albums" and "compilations" in favor of the comps. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 18:25:12 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: the Velvet Underground--Squeeze At 01:04 PM 10/23/2003 -0700, Marc Holden wrote: >Hell" with his Charles Manson/Monkees rant on it. The first 2 Adrian Belew >albums (Lone Rhinoceros & Twang Bar King) finally got released on CD, but >only in Japan. What kind of stuff would wind up on your wish-lists? Game Theory Lolita Nation Talking Heads The Name Of The Band Is The Talking Heads Some jazz: Ornette Coleman Of Human Feelings June Christy June's Got Rhythm Michael B. NP The Byrds Turn! Turn! Turn! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:40:33 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: reap while we're on the subject of recent reaps, did anyone catch this one, or did it slip by in the ES aftermath? Jack Elam, 84 James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #391 ********************************