From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #388 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, October 22 2003 Volume 12 : Number 388 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Mark E? Sha-sha(tner) ["Matt Sewell" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V12 #387 [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: The typo of Arthur Lee [Michael R Godwin ] Re: books [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Live Feglit [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Elf Power cover Robyn [Johnathan Vail ] Re: Benn and books [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: The typo of Arthur Lee ["Maximilian Lang" ] so... [Jill Brand ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V12 #387 [Aaron Mandel ] Re: so... [Eric Loehr ] Believe in Luv ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: so... [Aaron Mandel ] Record Geek Eye for the Mainstream Rock Guy ["Rex.Broome" ] oh fuck! [carole reichstein ] Re: oh fuck! [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:30:50 +0100 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: Mark E? Sha-sha(tner) You've got me imagining Shatner doing Who Makes The Nazis with a full orchestra... "and the mad kid said, 'Gimme the lead! Gimme the lead!'" Matt >From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey > >Quoting "Rex.Broome" : > > > Captain Kirk's resumed recording career: "Shatner Sings the Mark > > E. Smith Songbook". > >I can actually hear this one... "I...took to >doing...some...HOVERING!" > >--Jeff > >J e f f r e y N o r m a n >The Architectural Dance Society >http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ >:: PLEASE! You are sending cheese information to me. >:: I don't want it. >:: I have no goats or cows or any other milk producing animal! >:: --"raus" > >np: Robert Wyatt _Shleep_ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Half price modem, FREE connection and one month FREE - click here to sign up to BT Broadband. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:51:14 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V12 #387 >For some reason, Fidrych's is the one single baseball card I've kept from my >two or three years of youthful collecting. I guess I'm attached to the >freakish players, 'cause I very much regret not keeping Dock Ellis as well. >JPL Ah... but did you ever get a Joe Schlabotnik card? >Elf Power cover "Listening to the Higsons" on the their new covers album >Nothing's Going to Happen. is the title track a Tall Dwarfs (Knox/Bathgate) cover, by any chance? James PS - Bruce - hope you don't mind, but I've forwarded that factlet about the "Needles in the camel's eye" cover to the Eno list... James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:55:06 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: The typo of Arthur Lee On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Maximilian Lang wrote: > Robyn gets a thank you in the liner of the new Forever Changes DVD. Problem > is it's spelled 'Robin'. I saw Love last night, what a great show but his > fans are a bunch of spazoids. Yes I am a fan, so I should talk, right? I saw the TV broadcast of their Glastonbury performance, which was very impressive. Unexpectedly, the best number was "Maybe the people could be the times (or Between Clark and Hilldale)" but "Your mind and we belong together" and "Seven and seven is" were great as well. Fabulous, paranoid songs, and A.L. was very together, not like when I saw him in the seventies. Interestingly, Lee credited the late great Bryan Maclean when they played 'Old Man', but not when they played 'Alone again or'. They were using a Swedish classical section to do the David Angel parts. Who were the orchestra when you saw them? - - Mike Godwin n.p. Love "Singing Cowboy" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:13:32 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: books - -- Carrie Galbraith is rumored to have mumbled on Donnerstag, 16. Oktober 2003 14:13 Uhr +0200 regarding Re: books: > But Pynchon! I've read Gravities Rainbow many times. A book I really love > is like an old friend I go back and visit on a regular basis. And all of > Pynchon's books are like that for me - a real pleasure to read. It's not as if I don't enjoy them, I just have a hard time finishing them. What I miss is the red thread that will lead me though the book. I know that's (part of) the point, but for me it makes it hard not to get sidetracked ... > I've never finished Moby Dick and couldn't get in to The Lord of the > Rings. That goes for pretty much any fantasy fiction actually. You're not comparing Moby Dick to LOTR, are you? I never finished Moby Dick, either, although I'd very much like to. I got the cheap Penguin Classics edition without commentary. I might do better with a commented edition. As for fantasy, I've got phases where I go through lots of fantasy and phases where I don't read any at all. I really enjoy George R. R. Martin's "A Song Of Ice and Fire" series and wait as restlessly as others for its continuation. Before staring that I'd never thought it possible for me to finish such long books. I guess it just depends on the type of book ... Right now I'm reading "Ripley's Game" by Patricia Highsmith. Years ago I've seen the Wim Wenders movie based on that book: "Der amerikanische Freund". Then I saw more recently both versions of "The Talented Mr. Ripley" (The one with Matt Damon and the one with Alain Delon - I liked both) and decided to read the books. What I really wanted to mention is something else: I know that Highsmith lived in Switzerland; I've actually been to her grave. Reading "Ripley's Game" from 1974 I get the impression that her English has been contaminated. Here's a sentence that took me by surprise: "Belle Ombre had two new dial telephones since about three months, and one no longer had to get a long-distance number through the operator." How do you feel about the first part? Is that English? To me it sounds like German ... - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:18:15 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Live Feglit - -- "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." is rumored to have mumbled on Donnerstag, 16. Oktober 2003 16:53 Uhr -0500 regarding Re: Live Feglit: >> From: "Matt Sewell" >> >> Gravity's Rainbow. You can work your way into Pynchon with >> _The_Crying_of_Lot_49_ first or just go for it. A complete >> classic for false start readings. I got into the first chapter >> and then started over again 3 months later to finish. > > I've read the first third of Gravity's Rainbow. Twice. Same here, although on the next attempts I just started where I'd left off. > I dream of having > two months on an island, just to read that friggin' book. For me that would only work if there was *nothing* else to distract me. > Aw, just skip that and read Flannery O'Connor. She's something. I never really know how to feel about her stuff, but it's definitely an experience ... Peter Buck mentioned her in an interview more than 15 years ago, that's how I got to know of her. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:39:38 -0400 From: Johnathan Vail Subject: Re: Elf Power cover Robyn From: Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc) Elf Power cover "Listening to the Higsons" on the their new covers album Nothing's Going to Happen. Pretty good cover but they don't really do anything new with the song. Maybe that's the point? This one is like, I don't know, the song that Robyn covers himself. Way back when at Hampton Beach Casino on the tour with Poi Dog Pondering this was one of the encores and was also the song where the Egyptians and Robyn swapped instruments. And more significant to me was on the Lips' MABD tour when he played it with Sebadoh. jv <- so, is Hitler a pitcher or a catcher? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:43:20 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Benn and books - -- crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com is rumored to have mumbled on Freitag, 17. Oktober 2003 10:25 Uhr +0100 regarding Benn and books: > Shame on you, Sebastian! Not finishing Magic Mountain... I know ... I liked the beginning (I started in Switzerland and had done a train ride similar to the one described), but got sidetracked. > Certainly in my > Top 10 ever; though some Mann is a little difficult I must admit. All I ever read was "Death in Venice" (except for a few short stories) and maybe I am (or at least was at the time) too young for that. > I never > finished Buddenbrooks. I'm told that's the one that's most easy to read. Cheers, Sebastian - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:01:07 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: The typo of Arthur Lee >From: Michael R Godwin >Subject: Re: The typo of Arthur Lee >Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:55:06 +0100 (BST) >They were using a Swedish classical section to do the David Angel parts. >Who were the orchestra when you saw them? Not sure, he didn't say. Max _________________________________________________________________ Never get a busy signal because you are always connected with high-speed Internet access. Click here to comparison-shop providers. https://broadband.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:48:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: so... Is anyone going to the Boston show? Jill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:03:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V12 #387 On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, James Dignan wrote: > >Elf Power cover "Listening to the Higsons" on the their new covers album > >Nothing's Going to Happen. > > is the title track a Tall Dwarfs (Knox/Bathgate) cover, by any chance? Yes, I think so. (Almost everything they cover is late 70s arty post-punk kind of stuff, if I remember correctly.) a ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:01:07 -0400 From: Eric Loehr Subject: Re: so... At 08:48 AM 10/21/2003 -0400, Jill Brand wrote: >Is anyone going to the Boston show? > >Jill > Hi Jill, My wife and I considering going (from Northampton); do you (or does anyone else) know anything about Johnny D's? Their web site says that they don't sell tickets in advance, but will guarantee a seat if you make dinner reservations. Has anyone been there? How big is it -- good views from everywhere? Do you have to get there early for dinner to get a decent seat? Anything else we should know? Eric ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 09:37:50 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Believe in Luv Max: >>Robyn gets a thank you in the liner of the new Forever Changes DVD. >>Problem is it's spelled 'Robin'. Didn't Arthur introduce Robyn as "Alfred Hitchcock" at a recent UK gig? Somebody here was there... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:37:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: so... On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Eric Loehr wrote: > Their web site says that they don't sell tickets in advance, but will > guarantee a seat if you make dinner reservations. Has anyone been there? > How big is it -- good views from everywhere? Do you have to get there > early for dinner to get a decent seat? Anything else we should know? He's playing Johnny D's? Huh. It's not huge -- maybe 60 or 75 seats at most; I don't know if they let more people in who just have to stand during the show. You can see from almost any table, though of course about half the chairs normally face away from the stage. (There may be a few booths in the corner from which you really can't see the stage, though.) The food's pretty good, but not such a draw that you have to worry about random diners crowding you out, I don't think. And they serve a great weekend brunch, though it's crowded. a ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:21:45 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Record Geek Eye for the Mainstream Rock Guy In the interest of a musical thread to take us non-baseball fegs through the World Series, I propose the following Stupid Game. I'm always seeing album reviews that include phrases like "no serious rock collection is complete without it", or "essential for any true music fan", etc. That's obviously summa that wacky Rock Orthodoxy that drives me so batty-- what's a serious collection, or a true fan?-- but I thought I'd take a shot at it and see if anyone else has any ideas as to How to Make a Rock Collection Serious. Let's say you're given temporary control, Trading Spaces-style and with a similarly modest budget, of your buddy Joe Average Rockfan's record collection. It is, say, a few hundred discs strong and reflects fairly decent taste in mainstream "rock" terms. What ten items do you tell him to add to make his Rock Collection more "Serious"? (An "item" might be one album or a group of them... please, no "record collection de-shitty-fying machines", etc.; and remember, you're not trying to make Joe share your exact tastes, but to simply make his collection more "respectable" and make him more conversant in the language of Orthodox Music Geekery.) My suggestions, pretty standard stuff: 1) The complete Beatles catalog (proper albums, compilations not acceptable substitutes.). Seriously, even if this isn't your bag, you'll need these for reference. 2) Representative records (best of's if you must) of at least two or three key sixties acts *besides* the Beatles and the Stones. I've met too many people who are deeply into Beatles minutiae but can't recognize the Kinks on the record I'm playing at the dinner party. The Beatles simply weren't *that* much better than their contemporaries and people should know that. 3) The four proper Velvet Underground albums. See conditions / rationale on (1). 4) At least one record where one of the names on the spine is "Brian Eno". Because everyone has something produced by him, and they should realize that his own records are usually better than the stuff with which he pays the bills. 5) A record or two by a female songwriter who trades on something other than looks or vocal prowess. A surprising amount of bush-league* music nerds, while abstractly accepting that "women can rock", don't count a single female among the rock geniuses about which they go all starry-eyed and spout endless trivia. Show me your collection and I'l find a chick who'll float your boat. Trust me. 6) Nuggets, in some form. Preferrably the first boxed set. 7) At least one record where the primary instrument is something other than an electric or acoustic guitar. Use this slot for your token electronic album, jazz record, koto recital, etc. 8) A rock and roll record recorded before 1962 (or single-artist compilation of material from a similar vintage). Hint: finding something called "The Sun Sessions" by anyone might help. 9) A "punk rock" record recorded before 1992, by someone other than the Clash or the Sex Pistols. 10) Make a list of your favorite albums. Already got one? Good. Now go down the track listings and find all the cover versions. Get the records on which the originals appear. If your idols liked those songs and artists enough to pay tribute to them, you owe it to obsession to figure out why. Other possibilties: - -take one (1) full-length Pixies album for each posthumous Nirvana release you own. - -take one (1) country record recorded before 1982 for each Eagles record. Two (2) for each copy of either "Eagles Greatest Hits". - -take one (1) independently released album, any flavor, for each album you own by an artist with the little "registered trademark" symbol next to their name (Boston, Billy Joel, etc.) - -take one (1) out-of-print record of *my* choice, and one (1) slap with a cold dead fish for each of the Top 20 Best Selling Albums of All Time in your collection. - -if the number of EP's/singles/bootlegs/duplicate imports you own by a given artist is greater than the number of albums they've ever released, find an artist of as different a genre, writing style, time period, gender identification etc. as you can find and take one (1) full-length album by them for each extraneous disc by the object of your obsession, you sad, slavish fanboy.** Then I guess the guy would have like a week to listen to it all and then be sent before a panel of Ultimate Music Dorks to see if he could past muster. Think you can build a better geek? - -Rex *baseball reference! I think... **I think this might saddle me with like 15 Streisand records where (Streisand = the opposite of Tom Verlaine, +/-), and a similar number of Jimmy Buffett albums as a penance for my Throwing Muses sins. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:45:22 -0400 From: UglyNoraGrrl@aol.com Subject: RE: Record Geek Eye for the Mainstream Rock Guy Rex put forth in his own special way: > 1) The complete Beatles catalog (proper albums, compilations not > acceptable substitutes.). Seriously, even if this isn't your bag, you'll > need these for reference. I'm a big Beatles fan but this seems a little extreme. Maybe 4 or 5 albums of your choice. Is Let It Be or Please Please Me really essential in anyway? > 3) The four proper Velvet Underground albums. See conditions / rationale > on (1). Again I think this is too extreme. Certainly the Velvet Underground and Nico is essential but the White Light White Heat? > 4) At least one record where one of the names on the spine is "Brian > Eno". I have to agree here but I would suggest only Eno solo count. Collaborations just donbt measure up. > -take one (1) independently released album, any flavor, for each album you > own by an artist with the little "registered trademark" symbol next to > their name (Boston, Billy Joel, etc.) What do you count as independent? Are Matador, Sub Pop, and Merge indies? What about Kill Rock Stars or Barsuk? Or are we talking "labels" like Editions PAF? > Think you can build a better geek? Yes, require at least three hip hop records. Later, Nora ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:28:28 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: RE: Record Geek Eye for the Mainstream Rock Guy Quoting UglyNoraGrrl@aol.com: > Rex put forth in his own special way: > > 1) The complete Beatles catalog (proper albums, compilations > not > > acceptable substitutes.). Seriously, even if this isn't your > bag, you'll > > need these for reference. > > I'm a big Beatles fan but this seems a little extreme. Maybe 4 > or 5 albums of your choice. Is Let It Be or Please Please Me > really essential in anyway? God yes! If only for historical reasons - and I'm not sure Rex meant this, but one of the things I glean from his list is that folks done gotta knows they history. True, PPM finds the Beatles' songwriting in an underdeveloped state (I've always thought "Love Me Do" is damned near a polka forchrissakes) but how can you argue with "I Saw Her Standing There" or the title track? And "There's a Place" is a favorite of mine, while "P.S. I Love You" and "Do You Wanna Know a Secret" show their nascent skill at the tenderness thing. Plus, "Boys" contains Ringo's best-ever vocal performance. As for Let it Be, the big McCartney numbers (the title track and "Long and Winding Road") are surely worth salvaging, although I'd prefer the soon-to-be-issued clothing-free version of the latter (same goes for "Across the Universe"), and I've always had a soft spot for "Two of Us." > > 3) The four proper Velvet Underground albums. See > conditions / rationale > > on (1). > > Again I think this is too extreme. Certainly the Velvet > Underground and Nico is essential but the White Light White > Heat? Now this is even harder to imagine: without WLWH, your proto-Geek wouldn't have exposure to the sheer noise freakout aspect of VU - hugely influential. (Okay, there's "European Song" to sorta cover that, but...the guitar solo in "I Heard Her Call My Name" - "and then my mind split open" - is essential all by itself. Plus..."Sister Ray" (imagine Viv Stanshall saying that...) > > -take one (1) independently released album, any flavor, for > each album you > > own by an artist with the little "registered trademark" > symbol next to > > their name (Boston, Billy Joel, etc.) > > What do you count as independent? Are Matador, Sub Pop, and > Merge indies? What about Kill Rock Stars or Barsuk? Or are we > talking "labels" like Editions PAF? Oh dearie me...The answer to your questions is "yes," because regardless of corporate distribution, they're still run by people who pay at least as much attention to music as they do to the bottom line. (And isn't Merge independent even in distrbution?) > > Think you can build a better geek? > > Yes, require at least three hip hop records. Agreed - I can't name them, except _It Takes a Nation of Millions..._ by Public Enemy. Aaron Mandel or someone can probably suggest the rest (or correct me). ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: we make everything you need, and you need everything we make :: ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:43:02 -0700 From: Eb Subject: RE: Record Geek Eye for the Mainstream Rock Guy >And "There's a >Place" is a favorite of mine Oof. Definitely one of my least-liked Beatles tunes. >"Boys" contains Ringo's best-ever vocal performance. As is this one. Eb, apparently not geeky enough for this thread ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 15:23:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: reap (mostly for the benefit of bay area-ites in exile) Former KTVU reporter/institution Faith Fancher, after a 6.5 year battle with breast cancer. ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:26:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: RE: Record Geek Eye for the Mainstream Rock Guy On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > > Yes, require at least three hip hop records. > > Agreed - I can't name them, except _It Takes a Nation of Millions..._ by > Public Enemy. Aaron Mandel or someone can probably suggest the rest (or > correct me). For me, hip-hop before 1992 or so is like rock before 1976 -- I largely don't go for it, despite the obvious roots later stuff has in some of it, and despite the universal acclaim that some of it gets. I think "three hip-hop records" is too loose a constraint; from Rex's description of the 'normal guy' I would imagine he already owns Paul's Boutique and probably two more from among Eminem, The Roots, Arrested Development, Public Enemy and Wu-Tang Clan. Or something like that. a ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:16:36 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: DVD query Because I have no experience using DVDs on computers, I'm clueless...so this may have a simple answer. Anyway: A friend of mine wants to assemble a DVD consisting of excerpts from various other commercial DVDs (specifically, Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Alias). Apparently, there's some sort of pesky DR dealy preventing her from readily doing this. She's using the compiled DVD in an academic presentation, and has received legal advice from a reliable source that such usage would fall under Fair Use guidelines. Except that actually making it may not. That, though, isn't my problem. Any hints on how to proceed? You can e-mail me privately if the rest of us aren't interested (and here's where I say the bit about duplicate posts to both lists). ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: sex, drugs, revolt, Eskimos, atheism ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:05:30 -0700 (PDT) From: carole reichstein Subject: oh fuck! My sister just called and told me that Elliott Smith committed suicide. There's something on www.sweetadeline.net. I don't know any details. What the fuck. Goddam it. FUCK fuck fuckity fuck. :( Carole __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:10:44 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: oh fuck! >My sister just called and told me that Elliott Smith >committed suicide. > >There's something on www.sweetadeline.net. I don't >know any details. What the fuck. 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