From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #384 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, October 18 2003 Volume 12 : Number 384 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: oh well... [Miles Goosens ] Re: oh well... [Eb ] RE: oh well... ["Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" ] Re: Fidrych, from our family to yours ["Jon Lewis" ] Re: Final Fidrych X-2 ["Glen Uber" ] RE: oh well... ["Maximilian Lang" ] DENMOTHER = THE "R" DEMON ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: It's Official... (no RH or Apple) [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: Faux Sports, Faux Fux ["Jonathan Fetter" ] Sleater-Kinney are not from Portland, they are from Olympia ["Natalie Jac] Re: Live Feglit [Johnathan Vail ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V12 #382 [Johnathan Vail ] Re: Sleater-Kinney are not from Portland, they are from Olympia [Eb ] RE: Books you read over and over [Capuchin ] Robyn in Tucson, Oct. 17th ["Marc Holden" ] RE: Robyn in Tucson, Oct. 17th ["FS Thomas" ] Brief Snail review ["Charlotte Tupman" ] Re: Brief Snail review [Steve Talkowski ] Re: Books you read over and over ["Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: oh well... At 01:50 PM 10/17/2003 -0700, Eb wrote: >>far too >>many close ups of players during the game rather than just >>laying back and letting us see the action > >OH yes. > >I've barely watched any of this year's baseball playoffs, but *last* >year, I watched more and grew really exasperated with the above. It >seemed like every time a pitch hit the catcher's mitt, they'd cut to >one manager's stonefaced reaction...cut to the other manager's >stonefaced reaction...random shot of some other player looking >bored...random shot of a fan in the crowd...etc...and none of them >were doing anything worth televising. Exhausting to watch. Even when it's handled more deftly, baseball just doesn't translate well to TV. TV fixates on batter-pitcher and creates the illusion that nothing's happening between pitches, when there's all kinds of stuff going on. It's best experienced in person, where you can see if the third baseman is cheating toward the hole on an inside fastball to a lefty. But the second-best way to experience it is via radio, where the best announcers give you a much more vivid picture of what's happening on the field than the honest-to-goodness picture on your TV set. Fox's baseball broadcasting sins are simply the most egregious of the lot. One I haven't seen mentioned yet is something I don't remember them doing as much before this year: showing full-speed replays that aren't distinguished as replays in any way (no slo-mo, no "REPLAY" or "Tuesday's Game" in the corner), so they give the disconcerting effect of *happening right now.* It can be disconcerting if you're paying rapt attention, and heaven help you if you look away for a second. >I went to "day" band camp at my high school for two summers in >preparation for the required fall halftime-show... That still counts as band "camp"? I always thought for something to be a "camp," it had to involve going away to a retreat/campground/etc. We had "Summer Band" in July and August for those wiling to put in the extra work. I wouldn't have thought of it as "camp," though. It got me out of the house, and I also got to see which thing the majorettes made fun of me listening to the year before had become a hit over the summer and was now embraced by these same majorettes. '83... Prince and Def Leppard. (In fact, all the girlies came to '83 Summer Band wearing those fringed, midriff-baring Def Leppard t-shirts, when just a few months before, they would have SHRIEKED in DISGUST at that HEAVY METAL NOISE!). '84... oh, Bruce, of course. >no sex, I'm afraid. Lots of Big Gulps, though. :-) And Super Mario Brothers at lunchtime. The freedom to go anywhere in town at lunch was quite nice. >I vaguely recall Mark Fidrych...I just looked up his stats on the >Web. Wow, talk about a flash in the pan. 19-9 in his rookie year, and >10-10 *total* in his remaining four seasons. Sad. Chronic arm woes did him in, though his low, low, low strikeout rate (even in his stellar 2.34 ERA rookie year, he only K'd 97 in 250.1 IP) didn't augur future success. Most of the great pitchers at least start out with a decent strikeout rate. Rob Neyer did a really good article on Fidrych's K rate vs. the post-WWII greats: I mean, maybe Fidrych would have been an exception, but as Rob points out, if you don't strike guys out, you have to do everything else just about perfectly. >I keep having dreams that my father is still walking around, doing >the same things he always did. And every time, I get temporarily >"fooled" into thinking "Well, he's dead...but he's still here anyway, >so hey, this isn't so bad." And then...poof, wakey wakey. I didn't exactly have dreams after my grandparents died, but for the first six months or so, I'd turn a corner and "see" them in their familiar places (they lived in the same house with me and my mom). My grandmother fixing a meal in the kitchen, my grandfather dozing on the davenport to the Six O'Clock News. Very painful to watch those images go "poof" right before your eyes. It did go away after a while. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 15:06:37 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: oh well... > >I went to "day" band camp at my high school for two summers in >>preparation for the required fall halftime-show... > >That still counts as band "camp"? I always thought for something to >be a "camp," it had to involve going away to a >retreat/campground/etc. It's all I can offer, sorry. I wish my clarinet was still usable. It isn't. Air leaks. The cost to replace the pads and things would be about the same as buying a whole new one, I suspect. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 15:19:00 -0700 From: "Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" Subject: RE: oh well... Miles: > Fox's baseball broadcasting sins are simply the most egregious of the lot. > One I haven't seen mentioned yet is something I don't remember them doing > as much before this year: showing full-speed replays that aren't > distinguished as replays in any way (no slo-mo, no "REPLAY" or "Tuesday's > Game" in the corner), so they give the disconcerting effect of *happening > right now.* It can be disconcerting if you're paying rapt attention, and > heaven help you if you look away for a second. Even worse is the "breaking highlights" from games that happened the day before. They did this during Game 5 of Cubs-Braves series by showing highlights from the previous day's Marlins-Giants game. I think they did it again in Game 5 of the A's Red Sox series. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:28:35 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Final Fidrych X-2 While Glen was certainly wrong about Fidrych being a Cub, it just occurred to me that he attempted an early-'80s comeback for the other "cursed" franchise, the Red Sox. However, "The Bird" stalled out in Pawtucket, never reaching Fenway Park in a Boston uniform. So maybe that's what Glen was thinking about. still remembering Joe Garagiola measuring Kurt Bevacqua's bubble, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:27:06 -0400 From: "Jon Lewis" Subject: Re: Fidrych, from our family to yours > ...and I misspelled Mark Fidrych's surname a couple of posts ago. You non-baseball fans may remember him as the curly-haired Tigers rookie (and I guess it speaks to the non-sports-fan nature of Loud-Fans that no one there has ever mentioned him as a potential Sc*tt M*ll*r double) who talked to the baseball, creating some Robyn-worthy moments of surreal baseball joy in that storied Bicentennial year. > For some reason, Fidrych's is the one single baseball card I've kept from my two or three years of youthful collecting. I guess I'm attached to the freakish players, 'cause I very much regret not keeping Dock Ellis as well. JPL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 15:32:23 -0700 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: Re: Final Fidrych X-2 This one time at band camp, Miles Goosens wrote: >While Glen was certainly wrong about Fidrych being a Cub, it just >occurred to me that he attempted an early-'80s comeback for the other >"cursed" franchise, the Red Sox. However, "The Bird" stalled out in >Pawtucket, never reaching Fenway Park in a Boston uniform. So maybe >that's what Glen was thinking about. No, I think I was thinking about Bill "The Spaceman" Lee. It's so hard to keep all these tripped-out pitchers straight, you know. Sixto Lezcano. Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time. - -g- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:36:49 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: RE: oh well... >From: "Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" >To: >Subject: RE: oh well... >Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 15:19:00 -0700 >Even worse is the "breaking highlights" from games that happened the day >before. They did this during Game 5 of Cubs-Braves series by showing >highlights from the previous day's Marlins-Giants game. I think they >did it again in Game 5 of the A's Red Sox series. I never listen to the TV broadcast teams on FOX. Being a Yankee fan(I know, I know)and close enough to get a prety good radio signal, I am lucky enbough to get the teams own broadcasts. Anyway, why is there a slight delay delay with Fox's signal. When I do the same TV/RADIO combo with ESPN it is right in sync. Do they delay because they have the bases mic'd and don't want to pick up any F bombs? Hey, thats something else I hate, those stupid wired bases. I also agree with the others who have pointed out that they don't get the drama of the game itself. I don't care about watching Don Zimmer sitting staring off into space the day after he trys to deck that punk. I mean, okay, once in a while but every time between pitches. I could go on and on. At least people are getting into the game a bit again. I am anxious to see how the ratings are, the projections prior to the deciding games had this as the least viewed of all the combos. Max _________________________________________________________________ Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your current Internet access and enjoy patented spam control and more. Get two months FREE! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:27:05 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: DENMOTHER = THE "R" DEMON Gene: >>Since we're on the subjects of books, which do you read repeatedly? Ah. Good one. I almost never read a book twice. There are simply too many other books I haven't read yet, but want to. I was just talking to my mom about this and she's the same way. My wife can read books over and over again, no problem, but she tends to like lighter lit than I do (not that there's anything wrong with that), and she'll read a whole series of books over again when there's a new one coming out (mysteries, Harry Potter, other fantasy/SF etc.) to refresh her memory. I read some lighter stuff too, but I'm even less likely to re-read books in those genres than the more literary stuff I favor. Sometimes I reread things because external circumstances have made them relevant again (i.e. they get adapted into films, or are heavily referenced in some other book I'm reading, or keep coming up in conversations, etc). But even then only if it's been quite a few years since my last read (as in, a decade or more). I highly doubt I've ever read a single novel all the way through three times. I have this theory that I'll just spend my life trying to get through my self-imposed reading list and then, in my dotage, take time revisiting and savoring my favorites. But certainly not before the whole dotage thing starts. >>"Hickory Wind" by Ben Fong-Torres I've read the lyrics to the Gram Parsons tune a few times, if that counts... The kids' books thing, I can't even go there. Too many too many times too recently. I like a lot of them but it's no longer about me... although I wouldn't read my kids a book I think is utterly worthless, that's for sure. ____ Eb: >>His first posts *period* seem totally fixated on the world of >>Freemasonry. Something which I understand absolutely *nothing* about. Ah. Other than the stuff in those Illuminati books, the main thing I remember about it is that my friend's mom was a big participant/denmother in Rainbow Girls, a girl-scout-like group which oddly both Mason-associated and yet for girls only. One night I was staying over at his house and we found some of his mom's Rainbow Girls paraphenalia and it had all these totally Satanic-looking Masonic symbols which we stayed up really late cross-referencing in dictionaries and encyclopedias until we were convinced that his mom worshipped the devil. We were probably twelve and didn't stay wigged out too long, but that may give us a clue as to when Kansan's development hit a brick wall. M'self, I think Sonic Youth was correct that Satan is boring, but I still find him more engaging to contemplate than your average supermodel... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:17:30 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: It's Official... (no RH or Apple) Quoting Jeff Dwarf : > And Gov. Bush in Florida offering Bartman "asylum" in > Florida is exhibit 3,985,897,896 that he is absolute dick, > the total equivolent of rubbing someone's face into a pile > of shit after he/she've tripped and landed in it. Just what > you'd expect out of a Bush. Apologies to anyone who has to actually live there, but...having to live in Florida is, I believe, one of the circles of Hell that Dante's editor thought was too terrifying to leave in the published version. A Bush runs Florida; a Bush ran Texas...figures two of the shittiest possible states had Bushes at their helm ;) Re the World Series: apocalypse narrowly averted - but I really kinda wanted to see a Cubs/Red Sox series, even if the world would have had to end shortly thereafter. Yankees/Marlins? Can't Selig call it a tie already so no one wins? ..Jeff, in Wisconsin where it's nearly winter already. J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: it's not your meat :: :: --Mr. Toad ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:42:03 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: baseball announcers I'm confused by all this talk of Joe Buck as baseball announcer: what, he pull a velveteen rabbit and transform from the guy in Midnight Cowboy to become a real boy baseball announcer? ..Jeff, trying to link the kids books and baseball threads J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: it's not your meat :: :: --Mr. Toad ps: Satoshi Kitamura - Sheep in Wolves' Clothing! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:44:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Re: Faux Sports, Faux Fux > > Dudes... if your top Fox complaints are limited to their > > *baseball* > > coverage, you're taking a far too narrow view of that > > news division. To > > your credit, I might add. FOX has news too? Man that must suck. ;-) Why is it that if you want to see big-breasted slattterns, you watch FOX, but if you want to see people complaining about how the media is causing a decline in America's moral fiber, you watch Fox Nooze? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:35:19 -0700 From: "Natalie Jacobs" Subject: Sleater-Kinney are not from Portland, they are from Olympia >4) The Strokes are apparently still big and "important". I find this hilarious. Although I thought Spin was championing the Strokes, while Rolling Stone was championing that other has-been of tomorrow, the White Stripes. >6) I have not stopped wanting to fuck Lucinda Williams, nor has Rolling >Stone's "Women Who Rock" Issue provided me with any new viable >alternatives. > >7) Corporate magazines still suck. 8. Corporate magazines are still putting out condescending, ghettoizing, ill-informed "Women Who Rock" issues (women can ROCK??? Why didn't anyone TELL me???) on a semi-regular basis... while the remainder of their issues are based on the more novel theme of "Women In Their Underwear." And every "Women Who Rock" issue will inevitably feature a slavering, ass-kissing article about Sleater-Kinney. In fact, I predict that when S-K break up, the golden era of "Women Who Rock" issues will come to an end. As for wanting to fuck Lucinda Williams, I'm glad that Kathleen Edwards has not led you astray from your single-minded desire. gnat "I don't care how good she is, Janet Weiss is a bitch" the gnatster _________________________________________________________________ Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your current Internet access and enjoy patented spam control and more. Get two months FREE! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 23:00:48 -0400 From: Johnathan Vail Subject: Re: Live Feglit From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." > From: Carrie Galbraith > > I can't see The Crying of Lot 49 as the book I would suggest first of > Pynchon. A good book to read while vacationing, and a far more > interesting and engaging read, is V, IMHO. It's a lark, a frolic, a > mystery, a hell of a good read. Which is exactly what I need for my trip. Thanks for the tip, I'll switch Lot 49 for V pronto. I stick with Lot 49 because it still sticks with me. V is less memorable than Vineland. Mason & Dixon is completely wonderful but it is cut from different cloth than other Pynchon books. Lot 49 is very short, easy read with lots of wacky ideas and leaves you spinning about what is really going in. A good warmup for the more technical and geeky and much more intense Gravity's Rainbow. jv <- who noticed the similarity of Roger Mexico's rocket hunt to the SCUD chasers in Israel if Gulf War I. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 23:07:17 -0400 From: Johnathan Vail Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V12 #382 Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1970 00:57:43 +0100 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: Live Feglit Sometime in the late 80s I co-hosted a Crying of Lot 49 walking tour of San Francisco. In the book, there is a night where Oedepa (sp?) wanders around SF and we recreated it as faithfully as possible. Began at 10pm . . . guests on the real tour. I've always wanted to do the V walking tour of New York. That sounds excellent. I wish I could join you. I have heard of an annual outdoor reading of Gravity's Rainbow at Cornell (Pynchon's alma mater). Too extreme for me but I like the idea of living in a world where this occurs. jv ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:32:20 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Sleater-Kinney are not from Portland, they are from Olympia >8. Corporate magazines are still putting out condescending, >ghettoizing, ill-informed "Women Who Rock" issues (women can ROCK??? >Why didn't anyone TELL me???) on a semi-regular basis... while the >remainder of their issues are based on the more novel theme of >"Women In Their Underwear." And every "Women Who Rock" issue will >inevitably feature a slavering, ass-kissing article about >Sleater-Kinney. In fact, I predict that when S-K break up, the >golden era of "Women Who Rock" issues will come to an end. Who are your own picks for the most important "Women Who Rock"? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:26:44 -0700 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: Star Spangled Banner As for books, I'm reading a great deal of rock commentary and biography lately. Lots of variation in the quality of this stuff. A brilliant book is "Crosstown Traffic: Jimi Hendrix and Post-War Pop" by Charles Shaar Murray. Here is a sample of what he said about that Woodstock performance. Whew! "But as the mood of the times darkened so did Hendrix's music; when he moved into his trick bag, it was increasingly to express that which simply could not be communicated in any other way. There is no precedent in rock and roll, soul music or the blues for what Hendrix did to his national anthem that muddy Monday morning after that last fling of the notion of a mass counter-culture. Defiant and courageous in its ambition, deadly serious in its intent and passionately inspired in its execution, the Woodstock performance of "The Star Spangled Banner" is Hendrix's key to the kingdom. ...he begins to play the tune - one which every American has heard several thousand times. Or rather he tries to play it but it gets ambushed along the way. That clear, pure tone - somewhere between a trumpet and a high peeling bell - is continually invaded by ghostly rogue overtones; the stately unreeling of the melody derailed by the sounds of riot and war, sirens and screams, chaos and alarm. ...Hendrix presented a compelling musical allegory of a nation bloodily tearing itself apart, in its own ghettos and campuses, and in a foreign land which had never done anything to harm its tormentors. Time and again, the rich clean statement of the melody would resurface, a proudly waving flag standing above the melee, and time and again, the tide of violence and horror would swell to engulf and drown it. Nation and melody alike were haunted and swamped, hopelessly fragmented and lost, uneasy dreamers drifting rudderless into nightmare. The feedback and distortion ate into the melody like acid, corroding everything it did not consume. Kurt Weill could have imagined it, Albert Ayler could have played it, but only Hendrix could have hefted the symbolic weight." Barbara Soutar Victoria, British Columbia ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 01:20:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: RE: Books you read over and over On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Sweet & Tender Hooligan wrote: > and, of course, the entire Ted Geisel oeuvre. Even "Inside the Jap Mind" and "The German Threat" or whatever those hideous things were called? Man, that guy can do no right by me after seeing his propaganda flicks. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 03:41:26 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Robyn in Tucson, Oct. 17th Just got back from seeing Robyn at Club Congress in Tucson, AZ. As usual, it was an immensely enjoyable evening. Robyn seemed to be enjoying himself despite more guitar problems than normal--his acoustic drifted out of tune frequently and he had borrowed an electric, so he didn't have his usual effects peddles on hand. He was in a story telling mood, and he wound up talking quite a bit. It sounds like he might be spending more time in this area, so I'm hoping for more evenings like this. Anyway, I'd better type up the set list and head off to work. Here goes: (acoustic) Mexican God I've Got the Hots (...best thing about you is your javelina...wait 'til you see the cactus in my bathroom.) Balloon Man Arms of Love I Don't Remember Guilford Glass Hotel My Wife and My Dead Wife Full Moon in My Soul The Yip Song You Remind Me of You (electric) I Often Dream of Trains Raymond Chandler Evening You & Oblivion I Feel Beautiful Airscape - ---------------------- break - ---------------------- (acoustic) The Devil's Coachman I Saw Nick Drake Keep Finding Me (electric) Listening to the Higsons I had a chance to talk with Robyn for a couple of minutes after the show, and he seemed more relaxed than I've seen him in a while. I can't wait to see him at the Largo in November. Got to run now, Marc If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is "God is crying." And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to tell him is "Probably because of something you did." Jack Handey ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 07:52:21 -0400 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: RE: Robyn in Tucson, Oct. 17th Marc Holden scribbled: > > It sounds like he might be spending more time in this > area, so I'm hoping for more evenings like this. When I saw him here in Atlanta he mentioned cacti and that he would be living in Arizona for a while. No idea why, though. - -ferris. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf > Of Marc Holden > Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 6:41 AM > To: fegmaniax; VegetableFriends@yahoogroups.com; > RobynHitchcockClub@yahoogroups.com; Greg Ranocchia > Subject: Robyn in Tucson, Oct. 17th > > Just got back from seeing Robyn at Club Congress in Tucson, AZ. As usual, > it > was an immensely enjoyable evening. Robyn seemed to be enjoying himself > despite more guitar problems than normal--his acoustic drifted out of tune > frequently and he had borrowed an electric, so he didn't have his usual > effects peddles on hand. He was in a story telling mood, and he wound up > talking quite a bit. It sounds like he might be spending more time in this > area, so I'm hoping for more evenings like this. > Anyway, I'd better type up the set list and head off to work. Here goes: > > (acoustic) > Mexican God > I've Got the Hots (...best thing about you is your javelina...wait 'til > you > see the cactus in my bathroom.) > Balloon Man > Arms of Love > I Don't Remember Guilford > Glass Hotel > My Wife and My Dead Wife > Full Moon in My Soul > The Yip Song > You Remind Me of You > (electric) > I Often Dream of Trains > Raymond Chandler Evening > You & Oblivion > I Feel Beautiful > Airscape > ---------------------- > break > ---------------------- > (acoustic) > The Devil's Coachman > I Saw Nick Drake > Keep Finding Me > (electric) > Listening to the Higsons > > I had a chance to talk with Robyn for a couple of minutes after the show, > and he seemed more relaxed than I've seen him in a while. I can't wait to > see him at the Largo in November. Got to run now, Marc > > If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is > "God is crying." And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to > tell him is "Probably because of something you did." Jack Handey ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 14:46:40 +0100 From: "Charlotte Tupman" Subject: Brief Snail review Sorry this review has been a few days in coming to you... Matthew Seligman's band, Snail, played the LSE on the 15th, supported by Twisted Charm and a band whose name I can't remember (although their bassist did have a great shirt!) The gig wasn't very well advertised - I didn't see any posters up around LSE that day - which meant that there was a fairly small audience, but it was well worth the fiver it cost to get in. The support acts were good: the first band played some fairly heavy indie-rock and Twisted Charm reminded the friend who accompanied me of early Jam, albeit with the addition of an androgynous saxophonist... So to Snail... the band sounded tight and well-rehearsed as they made their way through the set, and it was great to see Matthew singing some of the lead vocals. All three musicians seemed relaxed and happy to be there, and they played a new song, Breathe, for which Matthew provided a brief explanation beforehand. Snail's music is hard to categorise, as they bring together a real mixture of rock, psychedelia and dance, along with some Chinese influences ('Peng You'). That song was one of the highlights for me, along with 'Baby Bang Bang' and 'Sitting'. You can have a listen to these tracks and a few others at their website: http://www.snailmusic.fsnet.co.uk Perhaps most surprising was their encore of the Beastie Boys number 'Fight For Your Right To Party', which certainly got people dancing down at the front! The only thing that could have been better was the sound system, which had a tendency to drown out the vocals, but that was a venue problem rather than a band problem. Altogether the gig was really enjoyable, and I'll definitely be going along to their next one in December. Charlotte _________________________________________________________________ Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:18:43 -0400 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: Brief Snail review > Matthew Seligman's band, Snail What a coincidence. I just received an eMail from Matthew this morning with "SNAIL" as the subject header. Only, this use of the term was in apologizing for being late sending out a CD of music that he wanted me to hear for visualizing some animation to. And, to the disgruntled feg(s) who is(are) not especially enjoying this Fall's ad crop - keep yer eyes peeled for the new BMW spot I directed and animated on, debuting 11/3 with accompanying print and billboard support. You'll know what I'm talking about when you see four computer generated "guardian angel" cherubs flying along side each tire of a new X5. - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:21:56 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Books you read over and over Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > > Since we're on the subjects of books, which do you read repeatedly? coo, anything to end The Most Tedious Thread In The World, Being Baseball. Curiously, most of my favourite re-readers are quite short: The Reproductive System - John Sladek. Ueber-paranoid 60s world-taken-over-by-machines farce. If anyone ever makes a movie of this, and doesn't shoot it in impossibly gritty b&w, I will have to kill them (sorry, it's nothing personal. Same would have to go if they cast anyone other than Jack Nicholson as Jupiter Grawk, and/or Anthony Hopkins as Toto Smilax.). The Third Policeman - Flann O'Brien. Demented allegory of bicycles, atomic theory, and the stuff of life. At Swim-Two-Birds - Flann O'Brien. A student writer creates a semi-skilled author whose characters plot to kill him when he's asleep. Star Smashers of the Galaxy Rangers - Harry Harrison. Very dated pastiche of every space opera you've ever seen or read. Much funnier than it has any right to be. Poor Things - Alasdair Gray. More fun (and importantly, much shorter) than "Lanark", a Scottish feminist frankenstein mystery. Life in a Scotch Sitting Room, vol. 2 - Ivor Cutler. Mythologised tales of growing up in Glasgow. Mr Pye - Mervyn Peake. Gothic comedy of morals, and about 10% the size of the Gormenghast trilogy. What A Life! An Autobiography - Lucas & Morrow. Proto-dada graphical novella. So good, I put it here: The Lucia books - E F Benson. Mannered satires of 1920s-30s country society. Augustus Carp, Esq., By Himself - H H Bashford. Faux piety in Edwardian London: - - - - Curiously, I have a number of non-fiction books that revisit regularly: Last Chance To See - Douglas Adams & Mark Carwardine. Adams is funnier and less self-indulgent when he's in documentary mode. Fast Food Nation - Eric Schlosser. Just to keep me from temptation. The Penguin Book of the Bicycle - Watson & Gray. Produced in the early 70s by two Stirling-based poets and academics, it's more about the society around the bicycle than the machine itself. Page after Page - Tim Page. Gory but eloquent autobiog of the rermarkably-still-alive war photographer. The Geography of Nowhere - J H Kunstler. Depressing as hell, but well argued. Let's go bomb some Wal*Marts. Stewart ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #384 ********************************