From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #383 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, October 17 2003 Volume 12 : Number 383 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: It's Official... (no RH or Apple) [Miles Goosens ] Re: It's Official... (no RH) ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Books you read over and over ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: Baseballprimer.com-anix (wuz Re: It's Official... (no RH)) [Miles Goo] Fidrych, from our family to yours [Miles Goosens ] RE: Fidrych, from our family to yours ["Iosso, Ken" ] Re: Faux Sports, Faux Fux [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: oh well... [Eb ] RE: Books you read over and over [Sweet & Tender Hooligan ] Re: How would Kansan explain this? (100% Heidi Klum content) [Eb Subject: RE: It's Official... (no RH or Apple) At 11:57 AM 10/17/2003 -0700, Glen Uber wrote: >And didn't Mark Fyddich (sp?) pitch for the Cubs? Fydrich, and no, his entire MLB career (such as it was after his freaky 1976 rookie season) was with the Detroit Tigers. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:08:46 -0700 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: RE: It's Official... (no RH or Apple) Iosso, Ken wrote: >And I never went to band camp. Wasn't that where kids used to first have >sex? I don't know what band camp you went to, but I certainly didn't have anything even resembling sex at band camp. Not even with myself. Apologies to woj for pilfering his attribution line. - -g- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:10:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Baseballprimer.com-anix (wuz Re: It's Official... (no RH)) Miles Goosens wrote: > No, the blame starts with Dusty Baker thinking he can > leave Prior and Wood in the game for 120+ pitches for > start after start yet not incur any ill effects, Dusty's > preference for hack-tastic out machines over patient > young hitters, and Dusty not having anyone ready to go in > for Prior when he finally lost it. I love Prior, Wood, > and Zambrano, and normally I would have been for the > Cubs, but rooting for Dusty Baker is like rooting for > torn labrums and first-pitch grounders to short. Prior and Zambrano haven't been anywhere near enough credit for their role in improving the Cubs this year. Of course, they aren't certified as "genius" like Dusty, and "Prior-Zambranity" isn't as catchy as "Dustiny." > Of course, Dusty's example didn't stop Grady Little from > doing the same stupid "leave the starter in too long" > thing with a clearly spent Pedro during the 8th inning of > last night's game. Even if he hadn't watched Dusty do it, you'd think he might have noticed that Barry Zito losing it similarly in Game 5 against Oakland was the reason Boston won that series. Then again, maybe Grady wasn't paying attention then either. > Agreed that Fox's announcers are total freakin' idiots. > I mean, is there evidence that Joe Buck and Thom > Brennaman are actually their fathers' sons? Neither one > is a patch on his ol' man. McCarver and the execrable > Steve Lyons are even worse, of course. > > Jon 'n' Joe on the radio for the World Series is > preferable to Fox's TV crew, sure, but Joe Morgan's gone > from being the Best Baseball Color Guy Ever (if you > thought he was good when ESPN first got Major League > Baseball in 1990, you shoulda heard him when he did Reds > TV in '85 and '86 -- truly astounding insights explained > in crystal-clear language, like having a baseball clinic > every night) to Babbling Old Curmudgeon and Font of > Conventional Baseball Wisdom. Has anyone told Joe yet > that Billy Beane didn't write MONEYBALL? As Beane said somewhere a couple weeks back, sometimes Joe doesn't like to let the facts get in the way of his opinion. Morgan has truly become a ridiculous old crank. However, the fact that Miller seems to realize that and plays off it constantly makes it listenable, if for no other reason that you're waiting for how Miller is going to diplomatically tell Morgan what a fucking idiot he is this time around. Excerts of an "impression" of a Miller/Morgan exchange a friend of mine did (more of less) a while back (feel free to correct the science in your mind): Morgan: See, the reason the sky is so blue these days is because people are swearing a lot more. They are using "blue" language. All that blue language is coloring the color of the sky so it's becoming more blue. Miller: I don't know about that, Joe. It seems to me that a lot of people might say that the color of the sky has more to do with how light refracts through the various particles and pollutants in the atmosphere as it comes down to the Earth making you think the sky is blue. Further -- by the way, Eric Chavez hits that one out centerfield where it bounces over wall for an automatic double* here in the eighth inning driving in Ramon Hernandez and Erubiel Durazo giving the Athletics a 7-1 lead -- the sky really isn't bluer than it used to be; we just tend to forget how blue it used to be. Morgan: I just know that it's all the swearing, Jon. *everyone else insists on incorrectly referring to them "ground rule doubles," which drives me bonkers. He also always says Oakland Athletics instead of Oakland A's, which also endear him to me. === > Marlins in six, says this long-time fan of Trader Jack, > Derrek Lee, Josh Beckett, and Alex the Marlin. Plus John > Darnielle has to be breathing a sigh of relief after > Florida's Wrigley wins, since he doesn't have to love his > ex-girlfriend again. Beckett has really impressed me, and I'm very happy for McKeon. He has probably oddly benefitted from everyone concentrating their attention on Dontrelle Willis. It's always good to see a baseball lifer get rewarded for all his years of hard work, especially since it's fairly unexpected since he was hired mid-season. I thought the mascot was Billy the Marlin though. ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:11:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: RE: It's Official... (no RH or Apple) Glen Uber wrote: > This one time at band camp, Iosso, Ken wrote: > > >Ernie Banks, Ron Santo, and, of course - RYNE SANDBERG. > > How about Mark Grace? Grace got his when he was with the Diamondbacks a couple years ago. > And didn't Mark Fydrich pitch for the Cubs? Tigers. ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:19:12 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: It's Official... (no RH) > From: Steve Talkowski > > ...iTunes on Windows rocks! > > Works flawlessly and everyone is sharing music between Macs and PCs > here at the office. I'll second that. I've got a PC right next to my G4 here at work, so I can use iTunes for Windows to listen to music on coworker's G4s when I have to reboot my G4 to run AppleJack to try to correct the cross-indexed files that are making all of my applications stop running. I can't wait for my new hard drive and Panther. Man, that record from Explosions In The Sky, "Those Who Tell The Truth Shall Die, Those Who Tell The Truth Shall Live Forever" is awfully good, in a Bedhead, Codeine sorta way. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:25:52 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: Live Feglit > From: Carrie Galbraith > > I can't see The Crying of Lot 49 as the book I would suggest first of > Pynchon. A good book to read while vacationing, and a far more > interesting and engaging read, is V, IMHO. It's a lark, a frolic, a > mystery, a hell of a good read. Which is exactly what I need for my trip. Thanks for the tip, I'll switch Lot 49 for V pronto. > Anyone else appreciate Cormac McCarthy? Esp. The Crossing? A book so > sparse and eloquent that I wept through certain passages. The only book > of his I haven't read is the one they made the movie out of, All the > Pretty Horses. I read a bunch of his books in a sweaty fit one summer. I couldn't put them down. Outer Dark made me numb and tense, Child of God stunned me, and after Blood Meridian, I was exhausted. I'm actually kind of afraid to pick up that book again. obNew Orleans content: man, I could use a Lucky Dog, from the vendor who's next to the Jax Brewery right by the Moonwalk. Onions, raunchy mustard, salty meat-like hot dog, and stale bread. Oh yeah. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:28:44 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Books you read over and over Since we're on the subjects of books, which do you read repeatedly? I tend to stick to particular writers, and read their books over and over again. I read Harry Crews novels regularly, especially All We Need Of Hell. I've read Mark Richard's Fishboy a number of times (even gave a copy to that Robyn Hitchcock guy; I wonder if he read it), and Jim Dodge's Fup is a favorite tear-jerker of mine. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:34:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Books you read over and over On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > Since we're on the subjects of books, which do you read repeatedly? The only books I've ever read more than twice are Geek Love and To Kill A Mockingbird. They are equally brilliant, moving, and inspirational. I find new things to think about each time I open those books. J. (I've read lots of short stories many times apiece. Particularly Faulkner, Steinbeck and James Morrow.) - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:54:51 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Baseballprimer.com-anix (wuz Re: It's Official... (no RH)) At 12:10 PM 10/17/2003 -0700, Jeff Dwarf wrote: >Prior and Zambrano haven't been anywhere near enough credit >for their role in improving the Cubs this year. Of course, >they aren't certified as "genius" like Dusty, and >"Prior-Zambranity" isn't as catchy as "Dustiny." Heh. Until Dusty got the Cubs job, I hadn't realized how successful Giants GM Brian Sabean must have been at channelling Dusty's tendencies into indulging the occasional, mostly harmless Shawon Dunston fetish. Unfortunately for Cubs GM Jim Hendry, Dusty's got the whip hand in Chicago. By 2005, Dusty will remake the Cubbies into a juggernaut combining the offensive ineptitude of the 2002 Tigers with the shredded arms of the 1983 A's pitching staff. >Morgan has truly become a ridiculous old crank. However, >the fact that Miller seems to realize that and plays off it >constantly makes it listenable, if for no other reason that >you're waiting for how Miller is going to diplomatically >tell Morgan what a fucking idiot he is this time around. OK, I'll buy that. And I didn't mean to impugn Jon Miller in any way -- he's the gold standard of play-by-play guys. I guess it pains me more as a Reds fan and former Morgan advocate to hear Joe make a fool of himself on a daily basis, so I can't just get into enjoying the awfulness the way I can with Lyons or ESPN's latest gift to announcing, David Justice. >> Marlins in six, says this long-time fan of Trader Jack, >> Derrek Lee, Josh Beckett, and Alex the Marlin. Plus John >> Darnielle has to be breathing a sigh of relief after >> Florida's Wrigley wins, since he doesn't have to love his >> ex-girlfriend again. > >Beckett has really impressed me, Prior's the best young pitcher in the game and he's amazing to watch, but there's something almost clinical about his approach and demeanor. Beckett's mechanics aren't as clean, but he's got an even more happenin' heater than Prior, and he's just more fun to watch on the mound. Even in Beckett's worn-armed Game Seven stint, where his pitches were almost all in the 77-88 MPH range, it was electrifying when he reached back for three straight 95+ fastballs in his strikeout of Sammy Sosa. >and I'm very happy for >McKeon. Trader Jack should still be managing the Reds, and it's a black mark on Barry Larkin's otherwise stellar career that he and Junior conspired to oust McKeon. The recently-ended Bob Boone era was a predictable disaster. Mind you, I have little confidence that the Reds will do much better in their GM and managerial hires this off-season, but the only way they could do worse would be to hire Jeff Torborg, Ray Knight, Vern Rapp (is he still alive even?), or, God forbid, a reinstated St. Pete de la Turfway Park. >I thought the mascot was Billy the Marlin though. I was referring to Fish shortstop Alex Gonzalez, but expressed it "Alex the Marlin" to (1) play on "Billy the Marlin" and (2) distinguish him from the Cubs' Alex S. Gonzalez. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 15:07:31 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Fidrych, from our family to yours ...and I misspelled Mark Fidrych's surname a couple of posts ago. You non-baseball fans may remember him as the curly-haired Tigers rookie (and I guess it speaks to the non-sports-fan nature of Loud-Fans that no one there has ever mentioned him as a potential Sc*tt M*ll*r double) who talked to the baseball, creating some Robyn-worthy moments of surreal baseball joy in that storied Bicentennial year. stop me before I start telling Sixto Lezcano stories, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:18:00 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Faux Sports, Faux Fux Jon et. al.: >>Top FOX pet peeve: late inning close-ups of losing team fans who >>are sitting with their palms together as if (?) in prayer. Dudes... if your top Fox complaints are limited to their *baseball* coverage, you're taking a far too narrow view of that news division. To your credit, I might add. Ken: >>And I never went to band camp. Wasn't that where kids used to first >>have sex? Nope... it was where they went and would subsequently *claim* to have first had sex there because the chick it allegedly happened with was not present to deny it. See also "Niagara Falls", although I never understood why that was *the* standby lying-about-losing-your-virginity spot. Because it's supposedly romantic, or because Canada has looser laws about 12 year olds having sex with each other? I was never even cool enough to outright lie about this kind of stuff. I just talked about chicks I met over the summer and how I was still in touch with them (which I was) and hoped people would think that meant more than it did (so that if they ever came to visit me they wouldn't get pissed at me for sullying their reputations). Really wish it had been true about that French chick, though. Happy Birthday, Jeme. My mother-in-law is in town to celebrate her 70th. You're younger than her, right? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 15:17:51 -0500 From: "Iosso, Ken" Subject: RE: Fidrych, from our family to yours I trust all you baseball jangle pop fans appreciate the Mendoza Line. Ken Iosso - -----Original Message----- From: Miles Goosens [mailto:outdoorminer@mindspring.com] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:08 PM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Fidrych, from our family to yours ...and I misspelled Mark Fidrych's surname a couple of posts ago. You non-baseball fans may remember him as the curly-haired Tigers rookie (and I guess it speaks to the non-sports-fan nature of Loud-Fans that no one there has ever mentioned him as a potential Sc*tt M*ll*r double) who talked to the baseball, creating some Robyn-worthy moments of surreal baseball joy in that storied Bicentennial year. stop me before I start telling Sixto Lezcano stories, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:35:57 -0700 From: Sweet & Tender Hooligan Subject: RE: Books you read over and over > Since we're on the subjects of books, which do > you read repeatedly? - - "Lust for Life" by Irving Stone, seven or eight times. Whenever I feel uninspired. - - "Chronicles of Narnia" by C.S. Lewis, every year since I was 13. I have more editions of this collection than you would believe, and I just got a beautiful new edition for me bert-day. - - "The Air-Conditioned Nightmare" by Henry Miller, four times in a row. Just liked it, I guess. - - "On the Road" by Jack Kerouac, innumerable times. Whenever I stop drifting. - - "Song of Albion" trilogy by Stephen R. Lawhead, I usually find time to re-read this once every couple of years. That amounts to five or six times. - - "Being Dead" by Jim Crace, three times. Freaked me out, but in a good way. - - "Technopoly" by Neil Postman, three times. This should be required reading for high school students. There're loads more, I'm sure, but that's all that comes to mind at the moment. = s&th hooligan@apostate.com www.jaquelinerose.com "When you're young, your potential is infinite. You might do anything, really. You might be great. You might be Einstein. You might be Goethe. Then you get to an age where what you might be gives way to what you have been. You weren't Einstein. You weren't anything. That's a bad moment." - Charlie Kaufman ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:43:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Baseballprimer.com-anix (wuz Re: It's Official... (no RH)) Miles Goosens wrote: > I guess it pains me more as a Reds > fan and former Morgan advocate to hear Joe make a fool of > himself on a daily basis, so I can't just get into > enjoying the awfulness the way I can with Lyons or ESPN's > latest gift to announcing, David Justice. Justice is still better than either Rick Sutcliffe or Jeff Brantly though. I would say that baseball announcing the past 10 years or so has because worser and worse, but I suspect I'd be guilty of selective memory. I'm just lucky that the only truly awful guy working for either the A's or Giants is Joe Angel. > >Beckett has really impressed me, > > Prior's the best young pitcher in the game and he's > amazing to watch, but there's something almost clinical > about his approach and demeanor. Beckett's mechanics > aren't as clean, but he's got an even more happenin' > heater than Prior, and he's just more fun to watch on the > mound. Even in Beckett's worn-armed Game Seven stint, > where his pitches were almost all in the 77-88 MPH range, > it was electrifying when he reached back for three > straight 95+ fastballs in his strikeout of Sammy Sosa. Which is why, 25 years from now, I suspect we'll be talking about Beckett having the better career -- he has a few fewer skills but more drive. That and Prior's Dusty problem. > >and I'm very happy for McKeon. > > Trader Jack should still be managing the Reds, and it's a > black mark on Barry Larkin's otherwise stellar career > that he and Junior conspired to oust McKeon. The > recently-ended Bob Boone era was a predictable disaster. > Mind you, I have little confidence that the Reds will do > much better in their GM and managerial hires this > off-season, but the only way they could do worse would be > to hire Jeff Torborg, Ray Knight, Vern Rapp (is he still > alive even?), or, God forbid, a reinstated St. Pete de la > Turfway Park. See, after 1990, I can't feel bad for Reds gans. I'm sure you understand. I have recently forgiven Lou Pinella though and hope he does well in Tampa Bay, so there may be hope for my forgiving the fucking Reds en masse for 1990 some time soon. But the Dodgers for 1988, never. I'd still run Kirk fucking Gibson over. And over. And over. > >I thought the mascot was Billy the Marlin though. > > I was referring to Fish shortstop Alex Gonzalez, but > expressed it "Alex the Marlin" to (1) play on "Billy the > Marlin" and (2) distinguish him from the Cubs' Alex S. > Gonzalez. I figured that out right afterwards, but thanks. I've always had trouble keeping straight which Alex Gonzalez was the good one for some reason. Never had the problem with the dueling Jeff D'amicos or Bobby Joneses in the mid-80's, the Jeff Robinsons. That neither of the most recent Bobby Jones was really all that good helped. ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:46:12 -0700 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: RE: Books you read over and over This one time at band camp, Sweet & Tender Hooligan wrote: >- "On the Road" by Jack Kerouac, innumerable times. Whenever I stop drifting. I read this about once per year. Like S&TH, it's usually when I am feeling stagnant. Other books I've read more than once: "In Watermelon Sugar" by Richard Brautigan "The Giving Tree" by Shel Silverstein "Hickory Wind" by Ben Fong-Torres "The Real Frank Zappa Book" by FZ and Peter Occhiogrosso - -g- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:47:51 -0400 From: "Mike Hooker" Subject: baseball announcers Hi, its pretty universally known that mccarver and buck are asshole motormouths. i watch on tv and listen to the radio, not nearly as bad. a guy i do like is al leiter. ive learned more about pitching in the past two weeks than my previous 44 years. not bullshit " factoids", but the real meat and potatoes of it. ps- leaving pedro in was a joke, he was running out of gas in the 7th, forget the 8th. and speaking of al leiter, bobby v. did the same to him, leaving him out to dry after pitching a gem. i think it was the year they played the yanks, and the mets had the game in hand . take at look at my music trading list ( new URL) http://hometown.aol.com/mhooker216/myhomepage/index.html have fun, Mike Hooker ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:48:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Faux Sports, Faux Fux "Rex.Broome" wrote: > Jon et. al.: > >>Top FOX pet peeve: late inning close-ups of losing > team fans who > >>are sitting with their palms together as if (?) in > prayer. > > Dudes... if your top Fox complaints are limited to their > *baseball* > coverage, you're taking a far too narrow view of that > news division. To > your credit, I might add. Nah, we're just trying to keep this subject to less than one billion posts. Plus, it's much easier to avoid FauxNews; if you want to watch the World Series though, you're stuck with Buck and McCarver. Or the time gap between tv's visuals and radio's audio. ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:50:40 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: oh well... >far too >many close ups of players during the game rather than just >laying back and letting us see the action OH yes. I've barely watched any of this year's baseball playoffs, but *last* year, I watched more and grew really exasperated with the above. It seemed like every time a pitch hit the catcher's mitt, they'd cut to one manager's stonefaced reaction...cut to the other manager's stonefaced reaction...random shot of some other player looking bored...random shot of a fan in the crowd...etc...and none of them were doing anything worth televising. Exhausting to watch. I went to "day" band camp at my high school for two summers in preparation for the required fall halftime-show...no sex, I'm afraid. Though as it turned out, I wasted a lot of emotional energy chasing a fickle upperclasswoman in the drill team when I should have been chasing a willing freshman from the shields squad. I vaguely recall Mark Fidrych...I just looked up his stats on the Web. Wow, talk about a flash in the pan. 19-9 in his rookie year, and 10-10 *total* in his remaining four seasons. Sad. I glanced at the Red Sox newsgroup (alt.sports.baseball.bos-redsox) out of morbid curiosity, last night...a staggering volume of furor, demanding the Red Sox manager be fired for not pulling the pitcher when he should have. I keep having dreams that my father is still walking around, doing the same things he always did. And every time, I get temporarily "fooled" into thinking "Well, he's dead...but he's still here anyway, so hey, this isn't so bad." And then...poof, wakey wakey. I expected to like Summer Hymns...but I don't. Finally saw "Suspiria" last night. Slow in the middle, but the opening and ending were an amazing sensory overload. This post has no coherence, whatsoever. Eb, childhood sports-statistics devotee and now...not all that interested ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:53:41 -0700 From: Sweet & Tender Hooligan Subject: RE: Books you read over and over "Uber" Glen Uber wrote: > "The Giving Tree" by Shel Silverstein Aw, hell, do picture books count? Having a four-year old book-addict has catapulted me into the ranks of those who've read the following books several thousand times: The Giving Tree Where the Wild Things Are Outside Over There Curious George Courderoy Amelia Bedelia The Runaway Bunny and, of course, the entire Ted Geisel oeuvre. = s&th hooligan@apostate.com www.jaquelinerose.com "When you're young, your potential is infinite. You might do anything, really. You might be great. You might be Einstein. You might be Goethe. Then you get to an age where what you might be gives way to what you have been. You weren't Einstein. You weren't anything. That's a bad moment." - Charlie Kaufman ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:04:07 -0700 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: Children's books This one time at band camp, Sweet & Tender Hooligan wrote: >Aw, hell, do picture books count? Having a four-year old book-addict has >catapulted me into the ranks of those who've read the following books >several thousand times: I don't have kids, but I love children's books. I really love (and frequently read) Shel, Seuss and Dahl. I should have included "Where The Wild Things Are," "Charlie & the Chocolate Factory," "The Lorax," and "How The Grinch Stole Christmas" in my list of frequently-read titles. When I was a kid*, I really liked "The Mouse and the Motorcycle," "Tales of A Fourth Grade Nothing," the Encyclopedia Brown series and most everything by Richard Scarry. I outgrew most of those by the time I was a teen, though. They lack the charm and cleverness of some of the other titles I've listed. Speaking of children's books, are there any Happy Hockey Family fans on the list? - -g- * I drew blank mushrooms ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:49:48 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: How would Kansan explain this? (100% Heidi Klum content) > > >-g- Kansan did post about this, but his answer wasn't especially entertaining. Maybe you folks don't realize what a small percentage of his posts that I forward. ;) And I only get them from *one* newsgroup where I happened to be already subscribed, whereas he actually peppers quite a few different groups. Here's something fun...the very *first* Kansan post to mention Heidi Klum. http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=948030101%2420446%40black-helicopter.psychetect.com&output=gplain I guess the "Klum = CluM = clandestine Luciferian Masonic" was the germ of his whole obsession? Yeesh. His first posts *period* seem totally fixated on the world of Freemasonry. Something which I understand absolutely *nothing* about. Eb ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #383 ********************************