From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #379 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, October 14 2003 Volume 12 : Number 379 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: The Observer's 100 greatest novels of all time [Michael R Godwin ] Letter from America/Top 100 novels [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: fegmaniax-digest V12 #378 [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] whee! [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Letter from America/Top 100 novels [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: Letters from Americans? [FSThomas ] Re: Two New Tracks ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: Hornby - Hitchcock - One degree of separation? [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Feglit Lives ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: Feglit Lives [Sebastian Hagedorn ] What time is love? [Jeff Dwarf ] Neither particularly alt- nor -western but inarguably country ["Rex.Broom] Re: Dead Kennedys [Capuchin ] Re: Neither particularly alt- nor -western but inarguably country [Tom Cl] Be advised [Eb ] Hat-Rock (tm) and cultural redneckism explained ["Glen Uber" Subject: Re: The Observer's 100 greatest novels of all time > . On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > Seems rather Brit-centric, though...not that I'm Mr. Worldly > Novel-Reader. I was just thinking the reverse! Where are P G Wodehouse, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle ("Hound of the Baskervilles" is twice as good as "Riddle of the Sands"), Mervyn Peake, C S Lewis ('Out of the silent planet'), Patrick O'Brian ('HMS Surprise'), Allan Massie ('Evening of the world'), Julian Rathbone ('The last English king')? Seriously, though, I think they should either confine themselves to books written in English, or make much more attempt to internationalise the list. Is it really conceivable that the Iberian peninsula has only ever produced one hot writer (who managed to crash in at number 1, like a literary 'Whiter Shade of Pale'), while the Brits and Americans have produced dozens? What about Pushkin and Turgenev? Why Karenina rather than War and Peace? - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:23:24 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: sloow day... On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, steve wrote: > Letter From America - that would be Aleister Cookie. Looks like he's > got very little time for bullshit in his later years. A couple of biographical paragraphs here: > Since it seems to be a slow news day on Fegmaniax!, I thought I'd add a >> link to some thoughts on Ahnold's election from an elder statesman of >> journalism: >> >> > >Who's the author? I don't see it anywhere on the page. Is it someone I >would have heard of? I should have realised that "Letter from America" might not mean anything on the left of the Atlantic. The writer is Alistair Cooke, BBC correspondent in the USA, and has been since the "Letters" began in about 1945. One of the last of the old school of journalists as opposed to reporters. And acknowledged throughout much of the western world as one of the best, too. >I'd agree with #1, and am most pleased that Lanark is placed. I tried to read that, but only got as far as chapter...erm... Hm. ead 14, seen the movie versions of 21 2/3. >And Moby Dick sucks. tut tut tut. You've got the words in the wrong order again. Swap the last two. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:17:15 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V12 #378 I have just heard the first album by The Phoenix Foundation (I think they're a New Zealand band, but I'm not 100% sure). It sounds like a cross between Luna and recent Flaming Lips. I think I am in love... James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:17:56 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: whee! I have just heard the first album by The Phoenix Foundation (I think they're a New Zealand band, but I'm not 100% sure). It sounds like a cross between Luna and recent Flaming Lips. I think I am in love... James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 07:41:24 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Letter from America/Top 100 novels Quoting James "The Real Jim Shady" Dignan : . >And Moby Dick sucks. . . tut tut tut. You've got the words in the wrong order again. Swap the . last two. One-liner of the year. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: it's not your meat :: :: --Mr. Toad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:53:31 +0100 (BST) From: crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com Subject: Hornby - Hitchcock - One degree of separation? >Nick Hornby made an immediate impact in the UK with his first >novel, >'Fever Pitch', about a fanatical Arsenal supporter. Have to pull you up on this one, Godders. 'Twas an autobiographical memoir about his football obsession and related emotional under-development, or vice versa; which was then made into an utterly dreadful film, with Colin Firth as the Hornby figure. Interestingly, Hornby was at Cambridge in the late '70s. What are the odds of him having seen the SBs? I'm OK with Hornby's fiction, (and used to shop at the store which provided the basis for Championship Vinyl in High Fidelity) but thought that 31 Songs was a bit of an inchoate rag-bag. Crowbar Joe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:47:14 +0100 From: Michael Godwin Subject: Re: Hornby - Hitchcock - One degree of separation? >> Nick Hornby made an immediate impact in the UK with his first >> novel, 'Fever Pitch', about a fanatical Arsenal supporter. - --On 14 October 2003 13:53 +0100 crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com wrote: > Have to pull you up on this one, Godders. 'Twas an > autobiographical memoir about his football obsession and related > emotional under-development, or vice versa; which was then made > into an utterly dreadful film, with Colin Firth as the Hornby > figure. It's a fair cop, guv - I haven't read it because I'm {gulp} not interested in football. > Interestingly, Hornby was at Cambridge in the late '70s. What are > the odds of him having seen the SBs? Pretty short I would think, what with him writing a book about a record collector. Maybe he was even at the great 'Portland Arms' shows? - - MRG Now e-mailing with this incomprehensible Mulberry system... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:51:23 -0500 From: steve Subject: Letters from Americans? > LEDYARD KING > GANNETT NEWS SERVICE > The Olympian Online > IRAQ: Latest developments > Your thoughts about war with Iraq. > > WASHINGTON -- Letters from hometown soldiers describing their > successes rebuilding Iraq have been appearing in newspapers across the > country as U.S. public opinion on the mission sours. > > And all the letters are the same. Not really much to say about this, I guess - http://tinyurl.com/qke2 - - Steve __________ George W.'s war on Iraq will be the reductio ad absurdum of America's long, slow abandonment of any pretense that the people have any say in the question of whether their government will send some of them far away to kill and die. - Michael Kinsley ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:08:54 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: Letters from Americans? I was wracking my head trying to remember where I had heard about this, when it came to me. I'm almost positive it was Ollie North on Hannity and Colmes last night. Colmes, I think it was, asked him point-blankly if they were ordered to write (or, more accurately, *sign*) the letters or not. North denied it, saying they were just given the option if they wanted to. Perhaps from the let's-all-be-equally-eloquent side of the argument it would be justifiable to use form letters, but en masse it's just smarmy. - -f. At 08:51 AM 10/14/2003 -0500, steve wrote: >>LEDYARD KING >>GANNETT NEWS SERVICE >>The Olympian Online >>IRAQ: Latest developments >>Your thoughts about war with Iraq. >> >>WASHINGTON -- Letters from hometown soldiers describing their successes >>rebuilding Iraq have been appearing in newspapers across the country as >>U.S. public opinion on the mission sours. >> >>And all the letters are the same. > > >Not really much to say about this, I guess - > > > > >http://tinyurl.com/qke2 > > > > >- Steve >__________ >George W.'s war on Iraq will be the reductio ad absurdum of America's >long, slow abandonment of any pretense that the people have any say in the >question of whether their government will send some of them far away to >kill and die. - Michael Kinsley ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:10:04 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: Two New Tracks > From: "FS Thomas" > > RH-031010-09.mp3 is (allegedly) "I've Got That Full Moon (In My Soul)" > and RH-031010-10.mp3 may very well be called "I Wish I Could Fly". Lovely, lovely songs. Thanks, Ferris. I believe we're hearing the gestation of a real nice new solo album from Robyn soon. Let's hope it's green with gold writing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:35:24 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Hornby - Hitchcock - One degree of separation? - --On Dienstag, 14. Oktober 2003 14:47 Uhr +0100 Michael Godwin wrote: > Now e-mailing with this incomprehensible Mulberry system... Congratulations! Seriously, the GUI is pretty ugly (but British! - check out the red letterbox in the Send button) and it's got a learning curve, but IMNSHO it's the best email client, bar none. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn PGP key ID: 0x4D105B45 Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156 50823 Kvln http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:57:27 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: eMusic... Ken Weingold wrote: > > I had 0k files with those names. Pathetic. Even illicitly decrypting the EMP file and using the usually bomb-proof wget URL downloader fails. The fact that emusic's Download Mangler doesn't even work on some Linux boxes is beyond their tech support. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:49:32 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Feglit Lives >> Slow Day List Shite: The Observer's 100 greatest novels of all time Veddy British... not in terms of the authors represented, necessarily, but more the rankings. A similar list compiled by Americans would include a few more Yanks, sure, but mostly a lot of stuff near the bottom of the list would be near the top, methinks. Doesn't Huck Finn typically top these lists? I've read, like, five of these over the last two years alone. And not all of them were published during that period. And apparently I've heard of way more of the Guardian's favorite books than their favorite musical artists. Am I still 32? That can't be right. >>This seems like a very Quail-drawing-out list - too bad he's gone for >>this one, at least. True. He would be thrilled at the inclusion of Tolkien, but pissed that there's no Pynchon. I'd agree with him on the latter point, too. On Moby Dick: has anyone ever (or ever spoken to anyone who) read the whole thing and still said that it sucks? It's always seemed to me that the nature of the perceived suck is such that one would come to the suck-conclusion long before the end of the book and stop reading and rent the Gregory Peck movie or something. This is why I've never started it... because once I start it I'm damned well finishing it no matter what. Not finishing a novel, even one I really dislike, is rarer for me than walking out of a movie, and I only ever do that on behalf of someone I came with who just can't take it any more. - -James R. Broome... says so right here on the sign which used to be my grandfather's but is now on my desk, and is very very cool, although his "R" stood for something else ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:43:54 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Feglit Lives - -- "Rex.Broome" is rumored to have mumbled on Dienstag, 14. Oktober 2003 10:49 Uhr -0700 regarding Feglit Lives: > because once I start it I'm damned well finishing it no matter what. Not > finishing a novel, even one I really dislike, is rarer for me than walking > out of a movie, and I only ever do that on behalf of someone I came with > who just can't take it any more. How strange! The latter is true for me as well, but I can't count the books I haven't finished ... I'd like to say that they equal those books in number that I *have* finished, but that would be hyperbole :-) OK, new thread: books you haven't finished. I'll start: Joyce, Ulysses Thomas Mann, Magic Mountain Pynchon, Gravity's Rainbow (four attempts so far) Goethe, Wilhelm Meister Wanderjahre (no, that's not the Wonder Years) There are more, but I gotta go. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 12:28:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: What time is love? ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:42:35 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Neither particularly alt- nor -western but inarguably country So at some point as you're driving from Pittsburgh into the less developed regions of West Virginia you can't get no NPR on the radio no more, so you default to what sounds natural as you're driving through the WalMart-dotted, autumn-colored mountains: commercial country radio. And there's a world of weird-ass stuff waiting there, especially if you're an over-caffeinated raw nerve who's been by himself for too many hours and is feeling maudlin as hell anyway. First of all, seems like the main thing male country singers are doing songs about now is not so much drinkin', lovin' and leavin' as... relating to their young daughters. Not just children, but specifically daughters; I heard at least three such tunes. These are godawful, mawkish songs, but me being headed to/from a family funeral and missing my own little girls at the same time, a few of these made me a little teary-eyed. I hate it when shitty art hits you where you live, man. And then, well, the common wisdom that I've heard over the past few years is that country radio never plays anything over ten years old, or anything by artists who aren't still cranking out hits. Not so. It's true that you won't hear anything that you'd think of as "classic" country, and little that you'd even think of as "good", but they do reach back at least into the early '80's, including some stuff I remember from my younger days... say, Ronnie Milsap through Randy Travis. Twice (once on my way in from PA and once on the way back) I heard Alabama's "Mountain Music", which I cranked up and turned into a rousing sing-along despite its basic awfulness-- this was one of the tunes my dad's band did in its waning days. Warning: contains lyrics "Play some back-home come-on music / That coommmmes from the heart." And I heard Alan Jackson (I think)'s pre-sensitive-guy-period (and hilariously bad) song "Indian Outlaw". Jeezopete. Funny thing is, it now goes like this: "Wellahmuh Indian outlaw/Half Cherokee and Choctaw/Mah baby she's a Chippewa/Uh sheeza wunnuvah kind" ...whereas the last time I heard it-- and I think this was on Letterman years ago-- I could swear it went "Mah baby's she's a hot squaw" (well, maybe not "hot" but some kind of squaw) which, dude, if they changed that line to make it more politically correct, seriously, can you say too little, too late? But I didn't hear too much obnoxious flag-wavery stuff, which was nice. The most redneck song I heard was a kind of enjoyable-the-first-time thing called "What Was I Thinkin'?", and that was more culturally than politically redneck (yessirree, her daddy's got a 12-gauge, as you might expect). Once even heard the DJ talking about the weekend box-office, and although it really shouldn't, especially, it seemed totally incongruous to hear some guy talking about Quentin Tarantino between, like, Wynonna and Patty Loveless songs. Nothing Natalie would've liked, though. Before I found the country station I had on some local public affairs show where the guy was, shall we say, underqualified as a broadcaster (he kept calling garbage "refuge" where the copy clearly must've read "refuse") and a big long part of the broadcast was the local crime report, including, like, who'd gotten DUI tickets (by name) and how person or persons unknown had damaged so-and-so's mailbox on State Street, followed by a brief list of local birthdays, half of which were preceded by "here's someone we *all* know". So there's some of the other kinds of things that you can listen to if you're in the right place at the right time. Beautiful weather. Beautiful trees. Most aspects of life revolve around sports, religion and beer, only one of which I'm really enthusiastic about and I can't even indulge in that one like I useta (hint: the one that by definition makes you fatter). Still, very nice people. Great local butcher's shop I'd never been to before. On my last day in town my dad MC'd the 150th Anniversary dinner for the Presbyterian Church. He also did a humorous look back at the church's history and it must be said that he killed, as usual. Saw the former Laura W. {last name withheld} at the viewing on Tuesday and she said whe was gonna call me up on Friday so we could get together with some other classmates for a beer down the Stray Cat on Friday, but I never heard back from her. Her mom told me about her insane schedule what with teaching and taking classes and the kids and her husband recovering from recent surgery and stuff, so I don't blame her at all, but I figured, hell, never made it out on a date when I lived here, why start now? Poor girl did seem awfully frazzled. Most of the other people I saw (lots, all very sweet) were contemporaries of my parents, not myself, although there are still many of my classmates in town. Some people thought I was my brother, which isn't surprising in the least... he wasn't able to make it back. Took really, really a lot of good-natured shit about the Ahnuld thing. Eventually developed my own preemptive jokes about California to avoid hearing everyone else's. At some point it occurred to me that for the past fourteen years I'd been doing precisely the same thing to Californians after telling them I'm from West Virginia. Fuck you very much indeed, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and perhaps more fundamentally Darryl Issa. Introduced my parents to the commentary feature on most of the DVD's they already had. Saw lots and lots of deer. There's a bear in the area now... didn't see it, but did see its shit, which was indeed in the woods, so that old story checks out. Bought a couple of disposible cameras and took pictures of the fall foliage 'cuz I may never get back there during this time of year again if my parents move. Weird. Between driving and flying and driving some more, I was up for about 21 hours straight heading back to LA, but I did make it home before the kids went to bed. Number two daughter can now take little steps if you hold her up by her arms. Cool. I know you guys could probably give a shit, but (A) that doesn't seem to be a concern when posting to the list in recent times, and (B) do you really wanna hear about funeral stuff, because if so I can always tell you about the strange, value-less objects I brought back from my grandmother's house while walking through it for the last time ever, just because I remember them from when I was this big. So how are you guys? - -Rex, glad to get some of that out anyway, delete as appropriate ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:30:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Dead Kennedys I just saw this email today. That's what I get for not keeping up with the fegses. On Sun, 12 Oct 2003, Ken Weingold wrote: > Since feg music taste seems to be all over the map, is anyone here into > the Dead Kennedys? Absofuckinglutely. > I'm learning the bass line of Too Drunk To Fuck for my band and need a > better copy of it than the 128 kbps MP3 I was given. Anyone have Give > Me Convenience Or Give Me Death on CD who can get me a high quality > (192) MP3 or AAC of it? I do and can. Do you still need or want it? > Also, though I can already tell that Klaus Fluoride is fucking good, Well, he's a dick now. > Lastly, anyone have any DK on video? Man, I wish. The live performance I've ever seen was in Urgh! A Music War. OBAF: Viv and I had dinner with Jello back in September of 2001. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:40:05 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Neither particularly alt- nor -western but inarguably country on 10/14/03 1:42 PM, Rex.Broome at Rex.Broome@preferredmedia.com wrote: > There's a bear in the area now... > didn't see it, but did see its shit, which was indeed in the woods, so that > old story checks out. Are you sure it wasn't the Pope's? Anyway, nice story. I always appreciate reading about listmember's personal sagas. Good to know you made it back in one piece. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:49:29 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Be advised Firstly, Kansas has announced that Our Lady Heidi Klum appears on Jay Leno tonight. I needn't tell you the startling implications of this date. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2564154070&category=1572 $35 for a ADVANCE?? Unbelievable!! Interesting that there's no Ebay clamor for the first album Silver. Is it so rare that no one even has it to sell, or is it just assessedf as vastly inferior? Good films I saw recently: "Far From Heaven" and "Mark of the Vampire." Just ok: "24 Hour Party People." More news: OSCAR-winning actor SIR BEN KINGSLEY has wed his long-term German girlfriend ALEXANDRA CHRISTMANN. The 59-year-old GANDHI star married the Berlin PR consultant and former model "some months ago", according to his agent, SALLY LONG-INNES. Kingsley has been married twice before, and has four children, two of which are older than their new 28-year-old stepmother. Kingsley and Christmann met at the EUROPEAN FILM AWARDS last January (02), and currently live on the SEXY BEAST star's estate, near Oxford, England. Can't this rascal stay out of the tabloids for even a DAY? What next? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:15:44 -0700 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: Hat-Rock (tm) and cultural redneckism explained When I was dead, Rex.Broome wrote: >First of all, seems like the main thing male country singers are doing songs >about now is not so much drinkin', lovin' and leavin' as... relating to >their young daughters. Not just children, but specifically daughters; I >heard at least three such tunes. These are godawful, mawkish songs, but me >being headed to/from a family funeral and missing my own little girls at the >same time, a few of these made me a little teary-eyed. I hate it when >shitty art hits you where you live, man. The best quote ever about modern country music: "Are you there God? It's me. Please please please please get rid of all of the awful acts that are calling themselves country. Please replace them with real country artists like Johnny Cash, and the Derailers, and Dale Watson, and Kelly Willis. Please make people understand that just because a guy wears a cowboy hat, has a southern accent and throws 3 bars of fiddle into a song, he is not necessarily a country artist. Dear God, please fill the country charts with songs about drinking and cheating, and shooting men in Reno just to watch them die, and get rid of all of the pussy wedding songs. Thank you God. Good night." >It's true that you >won't hear anything that you'd think of as "classic" country, and little >that you'd even think of as "good", but they do reach back at least into the >early '80's, including some stuff I remember from my younger days... say, >Ronnie Milsap through Randy Travis. I had Randy Travis' "1982" going 'round my brain the other day. Not as bad as some other earworms I've had, but I had a rough time with it for a couple hours. >Twice (once on my way in from PA and >once on the way back) I heard Alabama's "Mountain Music", which I cranked up >and turned into a rousing sing-along despite its basic awfulness-- this was >one of the tunes my dad's band did in its waning days. Warning: contains >lyrics "Play some back-home come-on music / That coommmmes from the heart." I've gone to Karaoke a few times recently and "Mountain Music" is one that I hear at least once each time I go. >And I heard Alan Jackson (I think)'s pre-sensitive-guy-period (and >hilariously bad) song "Indian Outlaw". Jeezopete. Funny thing is, it now >goes like this: That's not Alan Jackson. That's ol' Tim "Son-of-a-Tug" McGraw. He's the lucky bastard that gets to bang Faith Hill. >But I didn't hear too much obnoxious flag-wavery stuff, which was nice. The >most redneck song I heard was a kind of enjoyable-the-first-time thing >called "What Was I Thinkin'?", and that was more culturally than politically >redneck (yessirree, her daddy's got a 12-gauge, as you might expect). Don't know the name of the dude who sings that song, but I definitely enjoy the video. Specifically, I enjoy the chick in the video. Smoooookin'! >I know you guys could probably give a shit, but (A) that doesn't seem to be >a concern when posting to the list in recent times, and (B) do you really >wanna hear about funeral stuff, because if so I can always tell you about >the strange, value-less objects I brought back from my grandmother's house >while walking through it for the last time ever, just because I remember >them from when I was this big. I, for one, have a fascination with the valueless things that people acquire after a loved-one dies. I also have a perverse obsession with estate sales and have often thought of writing a song about an estate sale written from the point of view of the deceased who is a silent observer watching the "vultures" descend and "pick the carcass clean" so to speak. In closing, I'd like to apologize to the list for know far too much about country music artists and videos. Cheers! - -g- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:51:08 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: RE: Hat-Rock (tm) and cultural redneckism explained Glen: >>I also have a perverse obsession with >>estate sales and have often thought of writing a song about an >>estate sale written from the point of view of the deceased who is a >>silent observer watching the "vultures" descend and "pick the carcass >>clean" so to speak. Not quite the same thing, but there's a similar vibe to "Secondhand Furniture" by the Go-Betweens... it's on the original best-of that's out of print, but probably also a bonus track on one of them 2-disc reissues. A Peel Session, I think, never properly recorded studio-wise. Good tune. >>I've gone to Karaoke a few times recently and "Mountain Music" is one >>that I hear at least once each time I go. Weird. Wonder how that happened. Completely unrelated, I have a wedding to attend this weekend, and a vague, vague hope that for the first time in years at such a function I just might *not* hear fucking "Brick House". >>That's ol' Tim "Son-of-a-Tug" McGraw. He's the lucky bastard that gets >>to bang Faith Hill. Ooops. Same approximate vintage, though. >>I definitely enjoy the video. Specifically, I enjoy the chick in >>the video. Smoooookin'! >>In closing, I'd like to apologize to the list for know far too much >>about country music artists and videos. Hmmm... at this point you've almost got me regretting not knowing more about the latter! - -Rex ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #379 ********************************