From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #375 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, October 11 2003 Volume 12 : Number 375 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: friday Spree ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: friday Spree [Ken Weingold ] Re: friday Spree ["Maximilian Lang" ] RE: friday Spree ["Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" ] How to be Hornby [Sweet & Tender Hooligan ] Re: Attention iPod People (Dark Side) [Tom Clark ] RE: friday Spree ["Iosso, Ken" ] Re: Attention iPod People (Dark Side) [Ken Weingold ] Re: Re: friday Spree ["Stewart C. Russell" ] RE: friday Spree ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: friday Spree [Ken Weingold ] RE: friday Spree [Eb ] Re: Attention iPod People (Dark Side) [Tom Clark ] and all the world is football shaped ["Jason R. Thornton" ] RE: Attention iPod People (Dark Side) ["Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\] Kill The Poor [crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com] Head Rush Limbaugh ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: Attention iPod People (Dark Side) [Steve Talkowski ] Re: Kill The Poor [steve ] RE: Kill The Poor [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: Attention iPod People (Dark Side) [Ken Weingold ] Re: Attention iPod People (Dark Side) [Ken Weingold ] Re: Attention iPod People (Dark Side) [Ken Weingold ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:07:11 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: friday Spree Ken Weingold wrote: > > Ack. Puke. Snort. Open your mind, man. Choral prog stoner rock is the future. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:08:32 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: friday Spree On Fri, Oct 10, 2003, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Ken Weingold wrote: > > > > Ack. Puke. Snort. > > Open your mind, man. Choral prog stoner rock is the future. Polyphonic Spree is the new Phish. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:35:13 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: friday Spree >From: Ken Weingold >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Re: friday Spree >Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:08:32 -0400 >On Fri, Oct 10, 2003, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > > Open your mind, man. Choral prog stoner rock is the future. > >Polyphonic Spree is the new Phish. Phish and Polyphonic Spree stink after three songs. Max _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with MSN Messenger 6.0 -- download now! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_general ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:41:33 -0700 From: "Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" Subject: RE: friday Spree > > > Ack. Puke. Snort. > > > > Open your mind, man. Choral prog stoner rock is the future. > > Polyphonic Spree is the new Phish. Oh come on that's way too harsh! I'm not a fan of Polyphonic Spree but they nowhere near approach the sheer suckitude of Phish! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:45:50 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: friday Spree On Fri, Oct 10, 2003, Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc) wrote: > > Polyphonic Spree is the new Phish. > > Oh come on that's way too harsh! I'm not a fan of Polyphonic Spree but > they nowhere near approach the sheer suckitude of Phish! Go to a Spree show and watch the audience. Same thing. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:47:00 -0700 From: Sweet & Tender Hooligan Subject: How to be Hornby Just wondering if anyone here has read Nick Hornby's "How To Be Good." I read "High Fidelity" and "About A Boy" a few years back and thought they were brilliant and delightful, respectively. Hornby is my favorite kind of writer, deceptively easy to read; clever, funny, insightful, and, suddenly, insidiously, downright moving. His books are such a breeze to get through, and I'm always disappointed when I crest that last hill and see the final pages in my eager fingers. Anyway, I hadn't got around to reading "How To Be Good" until now, and am thunderstruck. A book of such passion is a rare thing, and, particularly in this age of cynicism, it strikes me as a thing of glory. His trademark wit is at its peak, and I've laughed out loud several times, but here we find him more thoughtful than before, and the story is nothing less than a celebration of, well, goodness - not pious, snotty, holier-than-thou-ism, but the genuine struggle, sometimes hilarious, sometimes agonizing, to be decent in a world that usually doesn't seem worth the effort. I'm just luvstruck, I guess. The real reason I'm writing is because I seem to recall recalling that there were at least a couple o' European-type fegs on this list, and I'm curious how Hornby is perceived east of the pond. To a middle-American like m'self, he comes across as lovably British; that nutty, caricatured kind of British that one sees on sitcoms. I was talking to a colleague this morning who thought Hornby's work was "smarmy, self-glorifying, and appallingly literal," (yeah, the guy really talks like that) but I don't see it. Okay. That is all. = s&th hooligan@apostate.com www.jaquelinerose.com "When you're young, your potential is infinite. You might do anything, really. You might be great. You might be Einstein. You might be Goethe. Then you get to an age where what you might be gives way to what you have been. You weren't Einstein. You weren't anything. That's a bad moment." - Charlie Kaufman ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:30:26 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Attention iPod People (Dark Side) on 10/9/03 9:44 PM, steve at steveschiavo@mac.com wrote: > There is an "Apple Event" scheduled for next Thursday. The wording of > the invitation is leading to speculation that it has something to do > with iTunes for WinTel. That's more than two months before the end of > the year, so it's looking like no RDF will be required. > This is indeed true, as my sources informed me a few weeks ago. iTunes and Apple Music Store for Windows. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:38:25 -0500 From: "Iosso, Ken" Subject: RE: friday Spree Thanks, man. And I don't know about the whole black and white attitude on this list about bands. Either they totally rule or they totally suck it seems. Some bands have some cool songs and a cool schtick even if they're not great. That's ok with me and I'm glad they're around. Ken Iosso - -----Original Message----- From: Stewart C. Russell [mailto:scruss@sympatico.ca] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 7:00 AM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: friday Spree mostly for KenI, but I'm sure others would like it too: There's a BitTorrent of the Polyphonic Spree's recent Toronto show here: . It captures the feel of the show nicely. If anyone finds the 500+ MB SHN download daunting, I have MP3s. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 15:26:31 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Attention iPod People (Dark Side) On Fri, Oct 10, 2003, Tom Clark wrote: > on 10/9/03 9:44 PM, steve at steveschiavo@mac.com wrote: > > > There is an "Apple Event" scheduled for next Thursday. The wording of > > the invitation is leading to speculation that it has something to do > > with iTunes for WinTel. That's more than two months before the end of > > the year, so it's looking like no RDF will be required. > > > > This is indeed true, as my sources informed me a few weeks ago. iTunes and > Apple Music Store for Windows. I have to use Windows at work (until Zeta is released at least) and Media Player sucks. I hope iTunes for Windows works well. Historically, Apple software for Windows has sucked ass. But if it brings AAC to Windows, that will be a VERY good thing. I know Nero can do it, but it's not widespread enough. But I will be as far away from an Apple Store as possible on the day of its release. I'm sorry to sound rude about this, but the Mac geeks I see at Apple stores or MacWorld make me embarrased to use a Mac. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 15:27:27 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Re: friday Spree Maximilian Lang wrote: > > Phish and Polyphonic Spree stink after three > songs. Hey, at least that's 2.9 more than The Beatles, then ... Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 15:34:29 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: RE: friday Spree Jason Brown wrote: > > they nowhere near approach the sheer suckitude of > Phish! Maybe I'd like Phish, then. I mean, I really like The Music Tapes, and everyone else thinks they suck monkey bum. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 15:47:15 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: friday Spree On Fri, Oct 10, 2003, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Jason Brown wrote: > > > > they nowhere near approach the sheer suckitude of > > Phish! > > Maybe I'd like Phish, then. I mean, I really like The Music Tapes, and everyone else thinks they suck monkey bum. I am not into Phish, but I really like that song Fee. I think it is very well written. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:47:04 -0700 From: Eb Subject: RE: friday Spree >I mean, I really like The Music Tapes, and everyone else thinks they >suck monkey bum. Nah, we just think the Beatles are a leeeeeeettle bit better. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 14:12:35 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Attention iPod People (Dark Side) on 10/10/03 12:26 PM, Ken Weingold at bofh@unix.vi wrote: > But I will be as far away from an Apple Store as possible on the day > of its release. I'm sorry to sound rude about this, but the Mac geeks > I see at Apple stores or MacWorld make me embarrased to use a Mac. > Oh man, you're not kidding there! I staffed MacWorld a few times and it is utterly hilarious to talk to some of these people. I mean, 90% of MacWorld attendees are just regular folks, but the rest are a mixture that just baffles the mind. I remember staffing the USB area when iMac first came out. A kid comes up to me and says point blank "Do you really know anything about USB, or are you just some ignorant marketing person?" You know, like he was gonna blow me away with some esoteric technical question. I shot right back at him "Well, I wrote the low level software that controls all USB transactions - do I qualify?" He was totally gripping from then on: "Um, well, uh, I was wondering how fast, um, well..." - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:25:07 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: and all the world is football shaped This is just weird: http://edition.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/10/09/universe.soccer.ball.reut/index.html - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:30:38 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Attention iPod People (Dark Side) On Friday, October 10, 2003, at 02:26 PM, Ken Weingold wrote: > But I will be as far away from an Apple Store as possible on the day > of its release. I'm sorry to sound rude about this, but the Mac geeks > I see at Apple stores or MacWorld make me embarrased to use a Mac. The day to stay away is the 24th, when 10.3 is released. I went to the Apple Store in Plano for the G5 Stevecast. I got there 40 minutes early, which I thought was way too soon, but there were already 40 or so people in the store. I did manage to get a stool at the Genius Bar next to a guy that had driven 100 miles (it's Texas, after all). It was already Powerbook city, and one guy had his Newton out. There had to be 300+ packed into the back half of the store when the broadcast started. Mac geeks probably aren't any worse than PC geeks, just more brand specific. The rumor sites are also hinting at iPod related do-dads next week. Maybe Tom knows something? - - Steve __________ American non-Christians told pollsters that evangelical Christians are better than prostitutes but worse than lawyers or lesbians. - Harper's Magazine Weekly Review, December 17, 2002 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:38:54 -0700 From: "Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" Subject: RE: Attention iPod People (Dark Side) > Mac geeks probably aren't any worse than PC geeks, just more brand > specific. Linux geeks are almost as bad as Mac geeks but PC geeks have nowhere near the passion and scary zeal that Mac geeks have. And that includes people at Microsoft Corporate events. Jason, former Mac geek currently OS ambivalent ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 01:16:03 +0100 (BST) From: crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com Subject: Kill The Poor >Don't be an ass. Fiscal responsibility has to be considered. >>It's like housing. Times are good, you buy a nice house. You >lose your >job and scrape by on your savings until they run out. >What do you do? >Sell the house, and get a cheap apartment. When that fails you >either >move back in with the folks, go to a shelter, or jump off a >bridge. Hmmm..let the name-calling commence... This is wonderful. In Britain we have a shadow Tory Chancellor who recently said he'd rather 'beg than send his child to a state-funded school.' You either have no sense of self-awareness, or you don't understand the supreme irony in your talking about buying and selling houses in a discussion which pivots on the reality of prevalent poverty in our massively rich societies. There again, having read your skew-whiff, neo-con posts on matters political over the last few months/years what can I expect.. Listen to yourself - ' Fiscal responsibility has to be considered...'. Pah! Samuel Smiles would be proud. 'Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps you slacker under-class dweller....' You make me sick. Crowbar Joe cf Brenda's Iron Sledge ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:29:51 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Head Rush Limbaugh http://www.msnbc.com/news/978735.asp _________________________________________________________________ Instant message with integrated webcam using MSN Messenger 6.0. Try it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:32:25 -0400 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: Attention iPod People (Dark Side) On Friday, October 10, 2003, at 03:26 PM, Ken Weingold wrote: >> This is indeed true, as my sources informed me a few weeks ago. >> iTunes and >> Apple Music Store for Windows. Yup, should be interesting to see how the Dark Side reacts it. > Historically, Apple software for Windows has sucked ass. Surely, not Quicktime? > But if it brings AAC to Windows, that will be a VERY good thing. Apparently, there's already an AAC plug-in for WinAmp available (read this on an iTunes list a few weeks back.) > But I will be as far away from an Apple Store as possible on the day > of its release. I'm sorry to sound rude about this, but the Mac geeks > I see at Apple stores or MacWorld make me embarrased to use a Mac. True. I consider myself a MacAddict, but know how to conceal my fanaticism when in public. Ok, with the exception of carrying my new 20 iPod out where all can see it. ;) - -Steve p.s Ken, how was Yo La Tengo tonight? Wanted to go but still recovering from being under-the-weather all week. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 23:31:33 -0400 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: RE: Kill The Poor I *was* going to take this off-list, but frankly, I could care less who sees it. I, for one, was quite happy with Davis as the governor of California. Over the past several decades the left-wing Democrats have seized more and more power in that state and have been legislatively trying to build their Great Society. They've been spooling off more and more rope over the years. What's unfortunate is that now, just as they've got enough to hang themselves, they go and pull a recall election and get rid of the governor. The unfortunate thing is that now, with a filthy rich REPUBLICAN in office, they can blame the failings of their so-called Great Enlightened Society on him, rather than decades of ridiculous, unsustainable spending. > Listen to yourself - ' Fiscal responsibility has to be considered...'. > Pah! Samuel Smiles would be proud. 'Just pull yourself up by your > bootstraps you slacker under-class dweller....' > > You make me sick. Pardon the expression, but fuck, yeah, "pull yourself up." It's not about what the god-damned government can do for you, but what you can god-damned do for yourself. Take some responsibility for your (inclusive) lives and do something about it rather than waiting for someone else to. - -f. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 23:18:09 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Kill The Poor On Friday, October 10, 2003, at 10:31 PM, FS Thomas wrote: > I, for one, was quite happy with Davis as the governor of California. > Over the past several decades the left-wing Democrats have seized more > and more power in that state and have been legislatively trying to > build > their Great Society. They've been spooling off more and more rope over > the years. What's unfortunate is that now, just as they've got enough > to hang themselves, they go and pull a recall election and get rid of > the governor. Don't forget that the voters of California have, by referendum, both limited taxation *and* mandated spending. I saw somewhere that only 30 percent of the budget is discretionary. - - Steve __________ Even for those who accept the basic premise of a proactive Almighty Father, it's probably unsettling to think that W. is charging into battle with the blind confidence that God will *of course* help him emerge victorious-just like he helped Bush kick the hooch and become a better father. - Michelle Cottle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 23:27:02 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: RE: Kill The Poor Oh goody - knives out... Quoting FS Thomas : > I, for one, was quite happy with Davis as the governor of California. > Over the past several decades the left-wing Democrats have seized more > and more power in that state and have been legislatively trying to > build > their Great Society. They've been spooling off more and more rope over > the years. What's unfortunate is that now, just as they've got enough > to hang themselves, they go and pull a recall election and get rid of > the governor. You forgot the part about the Easter Bunny selling drugs made from unicorn horns. "Left-wing Democrats" in positions of power?!? What you smokin', man - and can I have some? And by all accounts, the recall was a conservative-engineered feat - Darrell Issa (sp?) was its motive force, and potential gubernatorial candidate, until Arnold threw his 3XL hat into the ring. > The unfortunate thing is that now, with a filthy rich REPUBLICAN in > office, they can blame the failings of their so-called Great > Enlightened > Society on him, rather than decades of ridiculous, unsustainable > spending. And then Santa Claus says to Elvis... Who's put this nation into a trade deficit that might be a serious danger if other nations call us on it? Who's run up the national debt to enormous levels? Who's lost more jobs than damned near any other President? But I'm sure that's only happened because of those insidious left-wingers in power everywhere. No wonder Rush Limbaugh had to take all those painkillers... > Pardon the expression, but fuck, yeah, "pull yourself up." I'm giggling now: you *do* know that the most wonderful thing about this expression, curiously beloved by right-wingers and others, is that *it's fucking physically impossible to pull yourself up by your own bootstraps*, no? It's not > about what the god-damned government can do for you, but what you can > god-damned do for yourself. Take some responsibility for your > (inclusive) lives and do something about it rather than waiting for > someone else to. That stick looks mighty uncomfortable - and how do you bend over? Anyway, if you're going to talk about government programs, how about all that free education, job training, etc., so long as you agree to learn to kill along the way - and be willing to die in a war on behalf of some fatuous lies, when the war was planned a decade before the events that supposedly justify it? Or I could talk about compassion, but I suspect there's little point. So let's talk about business: conventional free-market theory holds there's an ideal, minimum level of unemployment that, in a sense, oils economic mobility. (A more cynical version of the same is simply that bosses like to have the threat of unemployment to point in the direction of employees who don't toe the line.) What this means, though, is that the unemployed in fact play a key role in a well functioning economy. That is, they have a job, of sorts. And *that* being the case, they should be paid for it - i.e., welfare, unemployment compensation, etc. Okay, maybe you think that's farfetched; try this: Nothing is free. Let's say that people should "do for themselves" etc. etc. etc. That's probably true...but of course, never actually the case with everyone. So the choice isn't "people will always work hard, be true to their schools, and love their mothers" vs. their not doing so, it's what do we do when people do not work hard (even if they have very good reasons for doing so). We could just say, fuck 'em. Okay, now what happens? Do they just evaporate? No, they do not: they, like all the rest of us animals, prefer living to dying - - so they will find a means to live. That might be the black market economy of one sort or another or, if more desperation sinks in, direct acquisition of financial resources sans blessing of conventional financial instruments (i.e., robbery), accompanied or not by traditional mercies regarding the leaving alive of witnesses to said financial transaction. So, okay, we've got thieves and murderers, what else is new? Lock 'em up and throw away the keys, right? But first you've gotta catch 'em - more cops, more cops everywhere. Costs money, doesn't it...as do prisons, staff, facilities, etc. So far, btw, we're nowhere close to a society that respects any sort of law or morality (other than the brutal sort that says "put 'em in jail before they can rob or kill me") - so we're not taking account of legal systems, etc. But maybe all that's still too merciful, and fiscally irresponsible, for you. Okay, fine: anyone commits a crime, just shoot them on the streets. Have we solved the problem yet? Nope - someone's gotta clean up the bodies, bury them to prevent the spread of disease, etc. Oh - and doncha think, some of those folks might decide that, given the choice between starvation and being shot, they might just shoot someone else first & take their chances? Obviously, I exaggerate - but the point is, we cannot wish away socially dysfunctional behavior of any sort. It costs money no matter what policy we pursue. And even if you hold that no matter what the economic conditions, some people are just bad and will be criminals...well, yes - but surely you'd agree that *some* people are driven to crime by social circumstances, no? Saying (which is what most self-help conservatism and moralism amounts to) "be good, or else" does jack shit to actually solve those problems. What's the most viciously ironic of all of this is that a drug dealer, a pimp, a murderer on the street often have at least the partial justification of desperation to speak for them: what's George W. Bush's excuse? Or Kenny Boy Lay's? Or toxic waste companies that instruct their employees to surreptitiously dump waste in poor people's communities, because disposing of it properly cuts into their profit margins, and hence the CEO's yacht monies? Or George and Laura, in this excerpt from (of all places) _Ladies Home Journal_ of Oct. 2003: > And the agent comes running up > > and says, "We're under attack. We need you downstairs," and so there we > go. > > I'm in my running shorts and my T-shirt, and I'm barefooted. Got the > dog in > > one hand, Laura had a cat, I'm holding Laura -- > > > > Laura Bush: I don't have my contacts in , and I'm in my fuzzy house > > slippers -- > > > > George W. Bush: And this guy's out of breath, and we're heading straight > > down to the basement because there's an incoming unidentified airplane, > > which is coming toward the White House. Then the guy says it's a > friendly > > airplane. And we hustle all the way back up stairs and go to bed. > > > > Mrs. Bush: [LAUGHS] And we just lay there thinking about the way we must > > have looked. > > > > Peggy Noonan (interviewer): So the day starts in tragedy and ends in > Marx > > Brothers. > > > > George W. Bush: THAT'S RIGHT-- WE GOT A LAUGH OUT OF IT! This, of course, is the night of Sept. 11, 2001. Ha-fucking-ha. But then, W.'s always been a good-humored sort - he had a few giggles about some of the folks he executed back in Texas, too. You're concerned about the ethics and motivation of people who don't work hard for a living. Yeah, that's too bad...but it hardly stacks up against wrecking the entire economy, illegally invading another country, and being responsible for the deaths of thousands. But hey: at least W.'s penis was uninvolved. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: capitalism is the socialism of the rich :: ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 03:30:11 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Attention iPod People (Dark Side) On Fri, Oct 10, 2003, Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc) wrote: > > Mac geeks probably aren't any worse than PC geeks, just more brand > > specific. > > Linux geeks are almost as bad as Mac geeks but PC geeks have nowhere > near the passion and scary zeal that Mac geeks have. And that includes > people at Microsoft Corporate events. See that's the thing. I really hate when people refer to Windows as "PC". One is the new iPod ads. "For Mac or PC". Oh great, so you support Linux, BeOS, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, etc.? PC is hardware, with many OSs for it. But here's the thing. I don't know anyone who loved Windows. I don't know anyone who preaches about it. It's just a tool really. It works. It does what you need. But it's not anything like Mac OS or the Mac hardware to me. But here's one thing I was thinking about. I was in the Apple Store in SOHO one night after work to get my second wired iPod remote replace (the jack for the headphones keeps on going bad) and had to wait to long to get someone at the Genius Bar (a term my roommate takes offense to - I do too sometimes because I know more than they usually seem to) because of so many people there with their iBooks and PowerBooks needing help. One woman who was taking forever was sitting there with the guy telling him all the problems and getting really nasty about it when she obviously had no fucking clue what she was talking about. The support guy was being really patient explaining why it had nothing to do with what she said it did (and he was right and she was a moron), but she wouldn't have it. How can such a preachy and conceited bunch of people be so absolutely clueless at the same time? - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 03:37:40 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Attention iPod People (Dark Side) On Fri, Oct 10, 2003, Steve Talkowski wrote: > >Historically, Apple software for Windows has sucked ass. > > Surely, not Quicktime? Hell yeah, QuickTime. I'll show you screenshots of many versions of it in Win2k totally corrupting the GUI if you want. > >But if it brings AAC to Windows, that will be a VERY good thing. > > Apparently, there's already an AAC plug-in for WinAmp available (read > this on an iTunes list a few weeks back.) Well for anyone wanting to hear AAC files I have from the Mac, I tell them to install the very excellent VLC. I use to be a huge fan of WinAmp, but no so much anymore. > True. I consider myself a MacAddict, but know how to conceal my > fanaticism when in public. Ok, with the exception of carrying my new > 20 iPod out where all can see it. ;) Cute. I am so stealth about it that I found a great backpack that has a pouch inside with a headphone pass-through. Only way you know it's an iPod is that the contrasting white remote wire runs down the strap. Damn white wires. > p.s Ken, how was Yo La Tengo tonight? Wanted to go but still > recovering from being under-the-weather all week. They were awesome tonight. Played for at least two hours and were just great. Only problems were that I didn't like the crowd, but that may also have to do with the fact that I was feeling like crap. Been fighting some sort of stomach flu type thing. The first song of the encores, Ira pointed to someone near the front and said, "You, what do you want to hear?" I wish it were I so I could have asked for The Way Some People Die. Usually when people shout out songs during a show I wish they would shut the fuck up. The band has a set list (which Max always ends up with). If they want suggestions they will ask. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 03:47:44 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Attention iPod People (Dark Side) On Fri, Oct 10, 2003, steve wrote: > The day to stay away is the 24th, when 10.3 is released. Oh yeah. I will be ordering 10.3 with my nice Federal Employee discount and let it be delivered on the 24th right to my door. Of course I'll probably wait a few days to install it so I can hear all the horror stories. :) > I went to the > Apple Store in Plano for the G5 Stevecast. I got there 40 minutes > early, which I thought was way too soon, but there were already 40 or > so people in the store. I did manage to get a stool at the Genius Bar > next to a guy that had driven 100 miles (it's Texas, after all). It > was already Powerbook city, and one guy had his Newton out. There had > to be 300+ packed into the back half of the store when the broadcast > started. Hah, I want to that too in NY since it was during lunch. Some people were wearing their iPod earphones the whole time. iPods have become jewelry. > Mac geeks probably aren't any worse than PC geeks, just more brand > specific. They are. See my other post. But the thing about Linux geeks is that they generally have a clue, unlike the typical clueless yet pompous Mac geek. But Linux geeks don't often preach that others should use it, at least 10 years ago they didn't, because they didn't WANT anyone using it. They wanted it hard to use so it would stay esoteric. I think things have changed, though. > The rumor sites are also hinting at iPod related do-dads next week. > Maybe Tom knows something? I'd love to know. I've read the rumors, but the only thing I would kill for is a wireless (Bluetooth I guess) remote for it, so I can keep the iPod in a pocket or backpack and the remote wherever my hand is. No wires to deal with. Plus I love stealth. - -Ken ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #375 ********************************