From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #373 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, October 9 2003 Volume 12 : Number 373 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Californication [Eb ] look what i just noticed (1000% recall and response) ["Jason R. Thornton"] Re: Californication ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: look what i just noticed (1000% recall and response) [Eb ] Re: True Lies [Groove Puppy ] RE: Californication ["Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" ] Kill the poor [crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com] All Jeffs, all the time... (was RE: another unsuitable subject line not reflecting content) [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jef] Re: All Jeffs, a [Eb ] RE: All right... [Sweet & Tender Hooligan ] Re: All Jeffs, a [Jeff Dwarf ] RE: Kill the poor ["FS Thomas" ] RE: All right... [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: All Jeffs, calling Howard Phillips [steve ] RE: All right... [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] RE: All right... [Sweet & Tender Hooligan ] Re: look what i just noticed (1000% recall and response) [Jeffrey with 2 ] Re: Californication [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] OJ with vodka in the conservatory [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: All Jeffs, a [Michael R Godwin ] reap ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: reap [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: Californication (Questions) ["Jonathan Fetter" ] Re: reap [Ken Weingold ] Now Arnold Schwarzennegar called up my mum..... [John Barrington Jones Subject: Re: Californication > >My big question is: Who the heck is George Schwartzman, and what did >>he do to land in (currently) ninth place, ahead of faces like Mary >>Carey, Bill Simon, Gallagher, Angelyne, etc.? What's the hook?? >>Looking at his site (http://www.governorgeorge.com), I still can't >>see it. Maybe his finish is the most impressive achievement of all? > >are the names arranged alphabetically on the paper? If so, some people >might simply have seen 'schwarz-' and voted. No...in an effort to play no favorites, the names on the ballot were randomly jumbled from district to district. On my own ballot, Cruz Bustamente was only a few names from the bottom! The oversized ballot was hysterical. After you inserted it into the giant "privacy sleeve," it looked like a set of chest X-rays. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 16:25:02 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: look what i just noticed (1000% recall and response) "Arnold" is an anagram for "Ronald." Schwarzenegger spelled backwards is "Reggenezrawhcs!" which, if spoken aloud, sounds like "Reagan is rocks!" Ronald Reagan is rocks! Not sure what that means, but I'm sure it's something sinister. - --Jason "nope - they're both blue" Thornton "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 16:27:00 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Californication At 12:15 PM 10/9/2003 +1300, James Dignan wrote: >are the names arranged alphabetically on the paper? If so, some people >might simply have seen 'schwarz-' and voted. No, the order was drawn out of a hat, and Arnie was pretty far down on the list. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:31:47 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: look what i just noticed (1000% recall and response) >"Arnold" is an anagram for "Ronald." > >Schwarzenegger spelled backwards is "Reggenezrawhcs!" which, if >spoken aloud, sounds like "Reagan is rocks!" > >Ronald Reagan is rocks! I'd be curious to know if Schwarzenegger is the longest last name in history of a US governor. Eb (wouldn't it be more like "Reagan is 'sorsch'"?) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:33:15 -0700 From: "Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" Subject: RE: Californication > > >My big question is: Who the heck is George Schwartzman, and what did > >>he do to land in (currently) ninth place, ahead of faces like Mary > >>Carey, Bill Simon, Gallagher, Angelyne, etc.? What's the hook?? > >>Looking at his site (http://www.governorgeorge.com), I still can't > >>see it. Maybe his finish is the most impressive achievement of all? > > > >are the names arranged alphabetically on the paper? If so, some people > >might simply have seen 'schwarz-' and voted. > > No...in an effort to play no favorites, the names on the ballot were > randomly jumbled from district to district. Wasn't there some sort of scheme of randomizing the alphabet instead of ABC... it was RNG... or something and they changed where it started in each county? And I think the same was done for the second letter of the last name. So Schwartzman and Schwarzenegger were right next to each other which could account for Schwartzman getting some votes intended for Arnold. Even if it was totally randomized Schwartzman still could have gotten his post from the similarities in last names. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:38:54 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V12 #372 >Even that's a little cost prohibitive; say, James, how much >extra room do you have? Enough for some Cali fegs to crash >for a few years? It's early spring right now, so the >weather should be lovely... not enough for the whole state! :) As for the weather, it snowed on Saturday (snow? In October?) Then on sunday it was 21 degrees (erm, 70 in the old money). Weird weather again... James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:37:58 -0700 From: Eb Subject: RE: Californication >Wasn't there some sort of scheme of randomizing the alphabet instead of >ABC... it was RNG... or something and they changed where it started in >each county? And I think the same was done for the second letter of the >last name. So Schwartzman and Schwarzenegger were right next to each >other which could account for Schwartzman getting some votes intended >for Arnold. You know, I bet this IS why Schwartzman did so well! Good call. I just rechecked my sample ballot. I never noticed before, but except for two "S" names tacked onto the end, all the names are grouped by letter but in random order. On my ballot, it goes in order of names starting with.... S G Z N T C I E K U P D F L R W Q J M V A J H B (no X or Y names, I guess) And yes, Schwartzman comes directly after Schwarzenegger. Only the fourth name on the ballot, in this case. Gawd, people are stupid. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:47:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Groove Puppy Subject: Re: True Lies Glen or Glenda sed> > Schwarzenegger is not the solution, but part of the > problem. I mean, he's > another damned foreigner who has come to California > and taken a job away > from an American. Hey! I resemble that remark. > ;) Oh yeah, like winking smiley makes critisising my extensive contributions to the US economy OK. Sheesh, you think you know a guy. Your lucky I don't poke your eyes with my broken fingers. H n.p. PWEI "Two Fingers My Friends" n.e. Inside Out Peanut Butter Cups (which are strangely tastier than the normal ones) ===== CHUCKHOLE All that great punk rock taste with only half the calories. http://clix.to/chuckhole http://www.mp3.com/chuckhole __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:03:48 -0700 From: "Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" Subject: RE: Californication Eb sez: > >Wasn't there some sort of scheme of randomizing the alphabet instead of > >ABC... it was RNG... or something and they changed where it started in > >each county? And I think the same was done for the second letter of the > >last name. So Schwartzman and Schwarzenegger were right next to each > >other which could account for Schwartzman getting some votes intended > >for Arnold. > > You know, I bet this IS why Schwartzman did so well! Good call. > > I just rechecked my sample ballot. > > I never noticed before, but except for two "S" names tacked onto the > end, all the names are grouped by letter but in random order. On my > ballot, it goes in order of names starting with.... > > S G Z N T C I E K U P D F L R W Q J M V A J H B (no X or Y names, I guess) You know I understand why they didn't want to an unfair advantage to the Aaron A Aaronsons of the world but why couldn't they have just rotated the regular alphabet? It would have made it a lot easier to find your candidate if it was STUVWXYZABC... than figure out where your candidate was in a SGZNTCIEK... scheme! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:05:56 -0700 From: Eb Subject: RE: Californication > > S G Z N T C I E K U P D F L R W Q J M V A J H B (no X or Y names, I >guess) > >You know I understand why they didn't want to an unfair advantage to the >Aaron A Aaronsons of the world but why couldn't they have just rotated >the regular alphabet? It would have made it a lot easier to find your >candidate if it was STUVWXYZABC... than figure out where your candidate >was in a SGZNTCIEK... scheme! You seem to have missed the point. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 01:35:57 +0100 (BST) From: crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com Subject: Kill the poor >While I generally support social spending, the problem is that >it is >easy to lay into effect spending plans when the economy is in >good >shape. Real maturity is shown when, in light of a faltering >economy, >you realize it is no longer fiscally responsible to fund such >programs, and remove them. Yeah, those poor people are such a drain... Crowbar Joe ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:47:10 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: All Jeffs, all the time... (was RE: another unsuitable subject line not reflecting content) Quoting Jeff Dwarf : > Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > > Quoting Eb : > >>>I agree about Prop 13 and the other initiatives (my > >>>Californian friends curse the guy - Howard Phillips? - > >>>who led the push for 13), > >> > >> Jarvis. > Howard Jarvis's primary partner in either Prop 13 or one of > his later tax initiatives was a guy named Phillips though Howard Phillips, I think, founded the US Taxpayers Party or something w/similar name. If he wasn't the Phillips involved, ideologically he could've been. I too don't give enough of a shit to look it up. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: we make everything you need, and you need everything we make :: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:55:00 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: All Jeffs, a >Howard Phillips, I think, founded the US Taxpayers Party or >something >w/similar name. If he wasn't the Phillips involved, ideologically he >could've been. I too don't give enough of a shit to look it up. I think he was the guy who wrote "California Dreaming," too. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:11:11 -0700 From: Sweet & Tender Hooligan Subject: RE: All right... > The main issue behind the recall was how the state got > fucked by Enron and other energy companies. I'm not from Cali, of course, so I don't pretend to be super-knowledgeable, but how is it that, with all the (ridiculous) coverage of the recall, this is the first time I've ever heard mention of the above? If it were the "main issue," wouldn't everyone be talking about it? = s&th hooligan@apostate.com www.jaquelinerose.com "When you're young, your potential is infinite. You might do anything, really. You might be great. You might be Einstein. You might be Goethe. Then you get to an age where what you might be gives way to what you have been. You weren't Einstein. You weren't anything. That's a bad moment." - Charlie Kaufman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:20:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: All Jeffs, a - --- Eb wrote: > >Howard Phillips, I think, founded the US Taxpayers Party > or > >something > >w/similar name. If he wasn't the Phillips involved, > ideologically he > >could've been. I too don't give enough of a shit to look > it up. > > I think he was the guy who wrote "California Dreaming," > too. No that was Wilson Phillips. As opposed to Mackenzie Phillips, who use to play for the A's in the late 80's, and later the Tigers, Angels, and a few other teams before ending his career back with Oakland in 1999. ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:35:44 -0400 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: RE: Kill the poor > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf > Of crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 8:36 PM > To: fegmaniax@smoe.org > Subject: Kill the poor > > >While I generally support social spending, the problem is that >it is > >easy to lay into effect spending plans when the economy is in >good > >shape. Real maturity is shown when, in light of a faltering >economy, > >you realize it is no longer fiscally responsible to fund such >programs, > and remove them. > > Yeah, those poor people are such a drain... Don't be an ass. Fiscal responsibility has to be considered. It's like housing. Times are good, you buy a nice house. You lose your job and scrape by on your savings until they run out. What do you do? Sell the house, and get a cheap apartment. When that fails you either move back in with the folks, go to a shelter, or jump off a bridge. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:49:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: RE: All right... Sweet & Tender Hooligan wrote: > > The main issue behind the recall was how the state got > > fucked by Enron and other energy companies. > > I'm not from Cali, of course, so I don't pretend to be > super-knowledgeable, but how is it that, with all the > (ridiculous) coverage of the recall, this is the first > time I've ever heard mention of the above? If it were the > "main issue," wouldn't everyone be talking about it? Because the political reporting in the US has devolved over the past 20 or so years from being issue oriented to personality oriented. The issues are almost irrelevant as far as coverage goes these days, unfortunately. ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:17:33 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: All Jeffs, calling Howard Phillips On Wednesday, October 8, 2003, at 07:47 PM, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > Howard Phillips, I think, founded the US Taxpayers Party or > something w/similar name. Here we go - http://www.constitutionparty.com/ Funny that Phillips was the candidate of the Constitution Party, as he's pretty damn close to being a Christian Reconstructionist. - - Steve __________ Does pop music really change anything other than the width of a teenager's trousers? Is there really no Santa Claus on the evening stage? Does the shed hold only a push bike, or is there a lawn mower in there too? Well, I've done the research, talked to the culprit's parents and come to my own conclusions. The answer is this: God's atoms have been scattered and re-assembled in the form of a fluffy bunny. - Bill Nelson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:54:08 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: RE: All right... Quoting Sweet & Tender Hooligan : > > The main issue behind the recall was how the state got > > fucked by Enron and other energy companies. > > I'm not from Cali, of course, so I don't pretend to be > super-knowledgeable, but how is it that, with all the > (ridiculous) coverage of the recall, this is the first time I've > ever heard mention of the above? If it were the "main issue," > wouldn't everyone be talking about it? You mean all those rolling blackouts a few years back? I recall reading about them a few times, and that the fact that Davis supposedly wasn't able to do anything about them (as if they were a force of nature) was one of the failures laid at his heels. But generally, just because everyone's not talking about it ("main issue" in the sense of public interest) does not mean it's not the *real* story, or the story behind the story. The press will cover the sexiest angle, not the dweebish, boring matter of energy dealing, selling of energy across state lines, privatization, and other such that causes 99% of readers' eyes to glaze over (not a few of them right here, right now, I bet). That, of course, is another sense of "main issue" from "what everyone's talking about." Compare: hanging chads/butterfly ballots vs. quite intentional exclusion of African-Americans from FL voting rolls in 2000... Or don't. Please. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: it's not your meat :: :: --Mr. Toad ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:14:00 -0700 From: Sweet & Tender Hooligan Subject: RE: All right... > But generally, just because everyone's not talking about it ("main > issue" in the sense of public interest) does not mean it's not the > *real* story, or the story behind the story. No argument there. I just seem to hear a lot more chatter about high taxes and superfluous spending by Mr. Davis than, well, anything else, except possibly Arnold's sexual fun 'n' games. I don't doubt that the energy "crisis" weighed on the minds of the Cali voters, I just thought it curious that I've never heard any reporters, candidates, or voters mention it, what with it being the main issue behind the recall. (For all I know, /everyone/ in California might have been grumbling about the energy thing, and perhaps the connection to y'all out there is quite obvious. I wouldn't know.) = s&th hooligan@apostate.com www.jaquelinerose.com "When you're young, your potential is infinite. You might do anything, really. You might be great. You might be Einstein. You might be Goethe. Then you get to an age where what you might be gives way to what you have been. You weren't Einstein. You weren't anything. That's a bad moment." - Charlie Kaufman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:30:05 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: look what i just noticed (1000% recall and response) Quoting "Jason R. Thornton" : > "Arnold" is an anagram for "Ronald." > > Schwarzenegger spelled backwards is "Reggenezrawhcs!" which, if > spoken > aloud, sounds like "Reagan is rocks!" > > Ronald Reagan is rocks! Eb's gotta stop posting those "Kansan" things to this list... ..Pallid Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: When the only tool you have is an interociter, :: you tend to treat everything as if it were :: a fourth-order nanodimensional sub-quantum :: temporo-spatial anomaly. :: --Crow T. Maslow ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:33:41 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Californication Quoting "Jason R. Thornton" : > No, the order was drawn out of a hat Which phrase also doubles as a review of that new Heath Ledger movie. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: I feel that all movies should have things that happen in them :: --TV's Frank ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:41:38 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: OJ with vodka in the conservatory Quoting Eb : > >Howard Phillips, I think, founded the US Taxpayers Party or > >something > >w/similar name. If he wasn't the Phillips involved, > ideologically he > >could've been. I too don't give enough of a shit to look it up. > > I think he was the guy who wrote "California Dreaming," too. No, that was John Phillips Sousa. The Phillips who helped drive Prop 13 invented a type of screwdriver. My favorite bit on the Constitution Party website (http://www.constitutionparty.com) is their vice presidential candidate's name: "Albion Knight Jr." C'mon, could we try just a *leetle* harder to call forth yr noble Anglo-Saxon heritage? I mean, that's as unlikely as a southern university's quarterback being named Jim Bob Cooter. Oh. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: crumple zones:: :: harmful or fatal if swallowed :: :: small-craft warning :: np: Willie Nelson/Sinead O'Connor "Don't Give Up," courtesy a student who *really really* wanted me to hear it (?) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:10:10 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: look what i just noticed (1000% recall and response) > > Schwarzenegger spelled backwards is "Reggenezrawhcs!" which, if >> spoken >> aloud, sounds like "Reagan is rocks!" >> >> Ronald Reagan is rocks! > >Eb's gotta stop posting those "Kansan" things to this list... Hm.... Reagan's birthday is February 6, 1911. Arnold's birthday is July 30, 1947. Heidi Klum's birthday is June 1, 1973. Hmmm. Ummmm... Let's see.... Hrm. Well, I got nothing. Anyone? ;) Eb, who really needs to study up on his Feast Days ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 00:20:09 -0400 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: look what i just noticed (1000% recall and response) On Wednesday, October 8, 2003, at 11:30 PM, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > Quoting "Jason R. Thornton" : > >> "Arnold" is an anagram for "Ronald." >> >> Schwarzenegger spelled backwards is "Reggenezrawhcs!" which, if >> spoken >> aloud, sounds like "Reagan is rocks!" >> >> Ronald Reagan is rocks! > > Eb's gotta stop posting those "Kansan" things to this list... please, you'll just encourage him to post more! *sigh* perhaps a recall? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 23:50:36 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: OJ with vodka in the conservatory Context alert: I *think* I only mentioned to Loud-Fans my delight in discovering that the University of Tennessee has a backup quarterback whose name is Jim Bob Cooter, but I'm just as delighted to share that information with my Feggy friends. As I said then, if you wrote a book or screenplay where you named the quarterback of a large Southern university's football team "Jim Bob Cooter," editors and critics would be all over you for trotting out stereotypes. I have no idea if Jim Bob Cooter has the Confederate battle flag strung across the rear window of his TransAm, loves to listen to Skynyrd and Eminem, and spends the offseason outwitting Boss Hogg. Speaking of Skynyrd, tonight's KAREN SISCO (let's just say that the Mostly Dead Boys play a pivotal role in the plot) was a hoot and a half. It would have been even more fun if they had sustained the almost-Coens-like tone and editing of the first five minutes, but it was a blast throughout, and was definitely worth missing an hour of the Yankees being taken down by the Red Sox. The first two episodes of KAREN SISCO have been darn entertaining, and I'll recommend the show to anyone with a jones for Carla Gugino and/or a jones for a good broadcast TV drama that doesn't involve clinical* crime solving, overwrought soap-like plot devices, or portentious "QUALITY DRAMA" moments. Someone (EW? TV Guide?) compared KAREN SISCO to THE ROCKFORD FILES, and while it's not a perfect comparison, it does aptly convey the overall sensibility, and yeah, if you liked ROCKFORD, you stand a good chance of liking this. later, Miles *literally (CSI and its ilk) or in tone (LAW & ORDER and its thousand spinoffs) - -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Sent: Oct 8, 2003 10:41 PM To: something Shakespeare never said Subject: OJ with vodka in the conservatory C'mon, could we try just a *leetle* harder to call forth yr noble Anglo-Saxon heritage? I mean, that's as unlikely as a southern university's quarterback being named Jim Bob Cooter. Oh. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:54:14 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: OJ with vodka in the conservatory >I'll recommend the show to anyone with a jones for Carla Gugino Guilty. ;) And don't forget that I heard she's a Robyn Hitchcock fan, straight from her own lovely lips! Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:46:27 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: All Jeffs, a > >Howard Phillips, I think, founded the US Taxpayers Party or > >something > >w/similar name. If he wasn't the Phillips involved, ideologically he > >could've been. I too don't give enough of a shit to look it up. > On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Eb wrote: > I think he was the guy who wrote "California Dreaming," too. We aren't talking about Jarvis / Gann, are we? It's always exciting for me when the list gets on to tax policy. http://www.democracyctr.org/demaction/proposition13.html> - - Howard Phillips Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 07:29:51 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: reap emusic's unlimited downloading. replaced with 40 downloads a month for $10. so long, it's been good to know ya ... Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 07:27:10 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: reap Quoting "Stewart C. Russell" : > emusic's unlimited downloading. > > replaced with 40 downloads a month for $10. > > so long, it's been good to know ya ... They do offer a "premium" service with 300 downloads/mo. - for $50. I kinda suspected something like this was in the works. Unfortunately, at least at this point, $50/mo. seems a bit steeper than I can afford. Although I've probably downloaded way more than this amount over the last few months, that's because...I kinda suspected something like this was in the works. I'm guessing that for the next month, traffic will increase dramatically... ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: we make everything you need, and you need everything we make :: ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 08:48:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Re: Californication (Questions) > >Give him half as many years as Davis to fix the damage and then consider a > >recall. > > I'd agree there (although i can do that with the benefit of a very large > ocean between us). Arnie may be a jerk, but he's assembled a clued up team, > by all accounts. Maybe, just maybe, they can dig California out of the hole > it's in. He may have been elected on name alone, but that doesn't mean the > administration's automatically gonna suck. From my outside-CA perspective (and no great knowledge of CA's issues and the candidate's positions), I can't really put my finger on what upsets people most about Governor Arnold. It seems to me that McClintock would have been much worse. I hate to see the R's gain another state, but I would guess a moderate Republican is much better than some far-right bible-toting Bush-clone. So what offends most: the whole recall thing, the fact that Arnold's an actor with no political experience, the fact that no one is too clear what his platform is, the sexual harrassment, or the things that Arnold will do? Or all of the above or something different? BTW, are any of the women who claimed harrassment by Arnold going through with lawsuits? Meanwhile, the Amish church elders of Lancaster PA have for the first time allowed the Amish to use gas-powered tractors to harvest hurricane-damaged corn. Cheers, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 09:43:17 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: reap On Thu, Oct 9, 2003, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > emusic's unlimited downloading. > > replaced with 40 downloads a month for $10. > > so long, it's been good to know ya ... Yeah, fuck that. We have til Nov. 8. Download all you can! I hope they lose all their customers. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 08:06:21 -0700 (PDT) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Now Arnold Schwarzennegar called up my mum..... Lobster Man is in hot water By CONOR BERRY STAFF WRITER PROVINCETOWN - The colossal crustacean towers over a group of silver-haired tourists at the foot of MacMillan Wharf. Performer Mark T. Ceria is full costume as Lobster Man (Staff photo by STEVE HEASLIP) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - The older women, part of a bus tour group from Tennessee, admire the creature's claws, tail and antenna before asking if they can take a photograph. But this lobster isn't a lobster at all. This 6-foot-4, 200-pound denizen of the deep can talk, and his name is Mark T. Ceria, known around town as the Lobster Man. "Of course you can," Ceria says. One of the women slips a dollar bill into his red, ostrich-feathered purse, and the giggling group is on its merry way. Even in a town where costumed folk easily outnumber the Brooks Brothers set, Lobster Man stands out in a crowd. Virtually everyone in Provincetown knows him. And virtually everyone - merchants, the town licensing agent and local police - have an opinion about him. In the case of police, Ceria recently got into some hot water over a marijuana possession charge, which he plans to fight in Orleans District Court at 8:30 a.m. Tuesday - dressed in the lobster get-up. Marijuana is a substance near and dear to Ceria's heart. A staunch advocate of "out and out legalization of pot," as he put it yesterday, Ceria said he will not only dress like a lobster in court, but he will ask the judge to return the ounce of marijuana police confiscated when they arrested him last month on a warrant. "That was lobster pot. That was medicine, and I want it back," said Ceria, a self-described sculptor, actor and street performer. Provincetown police, acting on a warrant issued in Gardner District Court in Worcester County, arrested the 50-year-old Holyoke native Sept. 18. Ceria was wanted for allegedly failing to return an Enterprise Rent-A-Car vehicle he picked up in Gardner. After he failed to show up in court on that warrant, Provincetown police arrested him again Sept. 23 on a second warrant. That's when police say they discovered a small quantity of marijuana in Ceria's red purse. Ceria's planned courtroom attire could be a first for the Orleans court, and possibly put Lobster Man in another pinch. "We've had a number of cases in this court dealing with lobsters, but his would be our largest," said Stephen Ross, clerk-magistrate for Orleans District Court. "There's nothing that precludes him from coming in dressed as a lobster," Ross said, noting, however, that the judge might decide to postpone the case or ask Ceria to come back another day dressed in more traditional garb. "The thrust of it is that, there's a certain level of decorum and respect for the court, and the business that it does," Ross explained. Ceria, who's staying at a $20-a-day hostel in Provincetown until he finds permanent digs, said the marijuana charge is no big deal. Besides his legal troubles, Ceria's lobster antics have annoyed and angered other town officials. Though Ceria claims he only accepts cash donations for pictures if they're offered, Candace Collins-Boden, executive director of the local chamber of commerce, begs to differ. Collins-Boden recently called police after Ceria, she claimed, told a tourist just outside the chamber's Lopes Square office that it would cost a buck to take his picture. "We saw him do it and we asked him to leave our property," she said. Ceria also hands out free pamphlets distributed by the chamber, she said, even though he was not asked - or authorized - to do so. "This man has absolutely no connection with the Provincetown Chamber of Commerce," Collins-Boden said. Addressing the cash-for-photos allegation, Ceria vehemently denies claims of shaking down tourists for money. If money is offered, though, he'll gladly accept it, he admitted. Provincetown street performers must be licensed, said town licensing agent Elizabeth Hartsgrove, and Ceria has yet to apply for one. The licenses are free, she said, and are issued basically to keep tabs on performers. Police Chief Ted Meyer said Ceria has run afoul of many merchants. He's asking them to contact police if Ceria is disruptive or bothersome. "He's a nuisance. We've received numerous calls on him," Meyer said. "He's a street guy, that's all; he doesn't work for anyone." Ceria's "panhandling" is against the law, Meyer said. But Ceria, who lived in Wendell, north of Quabbin Reservoir, prior to washing ashore on the Cape, said he's a misunderstood artist. "I help people with directions, the time, the weather. I'm the town crier," he said while working Lopes Square yesterday, dressed in full lobster regalia and wearing rose-tinted sunglasses. As he answered questions, a tourist approached and asked how much for a photo. "I don't charge a dollar, but I ask for a dollar donation because I can't afford to live in this town," he replied. The pair posed briefly, arms draped over each other's shoulders. The woman gave Ceria a dollar bill and walked away beaming. (Published: October 9, 2003) [http://www.capecodonline.com/cctimes/lobsterman9.htm -- includes a picture, which is worth going to see] ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #373 ********************************