From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #370 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, October 8 2003 Volume 12 : Number 370 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Video to DV? [Mike Swedene ] Re: Sting [Michael R Godwin ] Re: 40 UK [Michael R Godwin ] Re: 40 UK ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Snail gig ["Charlotte Tupman" ] Martin Bell/New Zealand/IDG is out of the office. ["Martin Bell" ] Entirely OT: Belief-O-Matic [FS Thomas ] Re: Video to DV? [Tom Clark ] another show-biz reap (sort of) [Eb ] Re: Entirely OT: Belief-O-Matic ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: Entirely OT: Belief-O-Matic ["Jonathan Fetter" ] Re: Entirely OT: Belief-O-Matic ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: California Recall ["Glen Uber" ] Re: Entirely OT: Belief-O-Matic [Dolph Chaney ] Re: Entirely OT: Belief-O-Matic ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: All right... [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 21:57:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Video to DV? Any suggestions for xfring video to my Mac? I am looking for a Hollywood FIREWIRE DV Bridge, or something like that. I have heard a few horror stories about this unit. Any suggestions?? Mike np -> "About A Girl" Nirvana __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:35:03 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Sting > >Of all the many howlers in that film (post-Brunswick Who _LPs_ at mod > >parties supposedly set in 1963/4?) the casting of Sting as a 17-year-old > >was one of the most ludicrous. >On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Eb wrote: > Bleh. This is music-geek stuff. No it isn't. How many mods did you know in 1964 who had even one LP? They bought singles and EPs. If (backtracking slightly) they had an LP at all, it would be something like Jimmy Smith or possibly Horace Silver. And however you look at it, Sting appeared to be at least 30 in that film. I've no idea how old he really is, but he looked _ancient_ beside the other mods. - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:42:10 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: 40 UK > On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Miles Goosens wrote: > > Wow, I've enhanced my fogey credentials mightily -- I have only heard of > > 19, and have knowingly heard music by only 15. In fact, I'm clueless > > about their #1 pick (the Libertines). On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Aaron Mandel wrote: > I've heard of 26, heard 23, and also never heard of the Libertines. Well, I've only heard about three of these acts. The Libertines have been on UKTV quite a lot, and did an impressive spot on Jools Holland, where they were introduced by Bernard Butler who produced their first record. They are good, but one of their strengths was the two lead singers: if one vocalist has been elbowed out or sent down, I think it might be a major setback. I assume it's the chubby one who remains in the band. The Darkness have been getting acres of press coverage, but I've only caught them once on TOTP. Very Rainbow-type sound c/w fairly flash stage presence. Could be the new Bad Company, but I'm not sure whether that's a compliment. My new year's resolution for 2001 was not to listen to any pop outfit which hasn't got a guitarist. However, Girls Aloud are quite good, though even on video it was impossible for them to disguise the fact that only two of them could sing, with the others just supplying decoration. - - Mike Godwin PS On the topic of BB, the BB-less Suede have been getting rave reviews for their recent "different album every day" gigs. n.p. Chuck Berry 'Livin' in the USA' - I've only just noticed that the backing vocals don't go "Uh-huh-huh, oh yeah" every time, as in the MC5 reading, but sometimes go "yeh-yeh-yeh-yeh, yeh-yeh-yeh-yeh". Nice! Who says Berry isn't musically complex? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 07:26:40 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: 40 UK I had heard remarkably few too, but on the strength of the few demos at , I have "Concubine Rice" in the mail. Gordon Anderson wrote "B + A", "Dry The Rain", and "Dog's Got A Bone" -- three of my favourite Beta Band tracks. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 13:05:42 +0100 From: "Charlotte Tupman" Subject: Snail gig Are any British fegs going to see Snail (Matthew Seligman's band) at the LSE on the 22nd? If so, and you'd like to meet up, email me offlist. Charlotte _________________________________________________________________ Tired of 56k? Get a FREE BT Broadband connection http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 01:00:16 +1300 From: "Martin Bell" Subject: Martin Bell/New Zealand/IDG is out of the office. I will be out of the office starting 10/07/2003 and will not return until 10/14/2003. I will respond to your message when I return. For urgent matters, please contact Managing Director Bob Pinchin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:34:06 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Video to DV? On Mon, Oct 6, 2003, Mike Swedene wrote: > Any suggestions for xfring video to my Mac? I am > looking for a Hollywood FIREWIRE DV Bridge, or > something like that. I have heard a few horror > stories about this unit. Any suggestions?? I have transfered plenty of VHS to my Mac if this is what you're asking for. All I did was use my MiniDV cam as a VCR and record from VHS to MiniDV and then run the MiniDV cam into the Mac via FireWire with iMovie. Once it's on the MiniDV tape there's no loss AFAIK since it's digital to digital. Hope this helps. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 10:38:54 -0400 From: FS Thomas Subject: Entirely OT: Belief-O-Matic An interesting little test that asks you about your perceptions of God, religion, and how your organized religion (should you chose one) should ideally behave. I find the test remarkably accurate as I'm a 93% match for Neo-Pagan. http://www.beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html 1. Unitarian Universalism (100%) 2. Neo-Pagan (93%) 3. Mahayana Buddhism (90%) 4. Liberal Quakers (84%) 5. Reform Judaism (83%) 6. Sikhism (79%) 7. Theravada Buddhism (77%) 8. Jainism (77%) 9. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (73%) 10. Hinduism (72%) 11. Baha'm Faith (71%) 12. New Age (67%) 13. Taoism (64%) 14. Secular Humanism (59%) 15. Orthodox Judaism (57%) 16. Scientology (53%) 17. New Thought (52%) 18. Islam (50%) 19. Nontheist (46%) 20. Orthodox Quaker (46%) 21. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (40%) 22. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (38%) 23. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (32%) 24. Seventh Day Adventist (29%) 25. Eastern Orthodox (20%) 26. Roman Catholic (20%) 27. Jehovah's Witness (11%) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 08:51:12 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Video to DV? On Monday, October 06, 2003, at 09:57PM, Mike Swedene wrote: >Any suggestions for xfring video to my Mac? I am >looking for a Hollywood FIREWIRE DV Bridge, or >something like that. I have heard a few horror >stories about this unit. Any suggestions?? > I have a DataVideo DAC-100 http://www.datavideo-tek.com/navigation_frames/dac-100/entire.htm No complaints whatsoever. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 11:25:03 -0700 From: Eb Subject: another show-biz reap (sort of) Maybe folks out of my area won't know who this is...but I still have an autographed picture somewhere. ;) Wally George, 71; Firebrand Host Made Insult TV a Hit With Orange County Show Wally George, who pioneered insult television on his long-running Orange County talk show "Hot Seat" in the 1980s, died Sunday in Fountain Valley. George, better known to some as the father of actress Rebecca De Mornay, was 71. He died of pneumonia at Fountain Valley Regional Hospital and Medical Center after being hospitalized there for three months with complications from cancer. George continued to tape his unabashedly conservative "Hot Seat" shows until July, completing his 20th year on the air, station officials said. The show, which airs at 12:30 a.m. Tuesday through Saturday on KDOC-TV Channel 56, has consisted of reruns since then. At the height of its popularity in 1984, "Hot Seat" was a must-see for college students, who waited six months for tickets and hours for a choice spot among the 80 audience seats, where they waved U.S. flags and chanted, "Wah-lee!" on cue. George engaged guests whom he called "liberal lunatics" and "fascist fanatics," including 1960s drug guru Timothy Leary and Tom Metzger, a white supremacist leader. George called his delivery "combat TV," a phrase he used in an autobiography published in 1999. Johnny Carson, referring to the show's choreographed hysteria, once called George the William F. Buckley of the cockfighting set. "Hot Seat" hit its stride in late 1983 when avowed pacifist Blasi Bonpane, there to oppose the U.S. invasion of Grenada, erupted in anger over George's taunts, flipping over the host's desk before storming off the show. A clip of the altercation aired on national news programs. "This was before Jerry Springer and those shows," said former Assemblyman Gil Ferguson (R-Newport Beach), who occasionally watched tapings from KDOC's Orange County studios. "The kids would get just as crazy as he would allow them to be. At one point, that show was so popular, people would choose it over normal network shows. But as insane as some of his antics used to be, he was very strong for moral values and family values." Republican political consultant David Ellis said George perfected the "shock jock" format for conservative political talk shows. It was a style based on 1960s radio host Joe Pyne, who exhorted callers he disliked to "go gargle with razor blades" before hanging up on them. "He drew that passion out of his audience," Ellis said. In interviews in 1984, George defended his extreme interview style, punctuated by shouting "Jerk!" and "Moron!" at guests. "They say that I'm a lunatic, that I'm a maniac. But why do you have to smile at your guests and be nice and let them say what they want to say?" he said in a March 1984 interview. "There's a strong conservative tide among the youth across this nation," he said a month later. "That's why I appeal to them. They relate to me.... I just come across as a down-to-earth guy who's speaking not so much from a highly intelligent brain but who's speaking from his heart and gut." George was the station's most recognized personality, said Calvin Brack, KDOC's CEO and a longtime friend of the host. "He's an institution." Born George Walter Pearch on Dec. 4, 1931, in Oakland, George spent his early years in the San Francisco suburb of San Mateo. His mother was a former child vaudeville actress; his father owned and operated a shipping company. He later moved with his mother to Hollywood. At 14, George snagged his first radio gig as a disc jockey with KIEV- AM in Glendale. He said in later interviews that the career move was pivotal because it cured him of childhood stuttering. In 1969, he launched "The Wally George Show" on KTYN-FM in Inglewood. Three years later, he became producer and co-host of "The Sam Yorty Show" on KCOP-TV Channel 13 with his political mentor, L.A.'s then- Mayor Sam Yorty. In 1979, he began his own talk show on KCOP and moved the show to KDOC in 1982. "Hot Seat" premiered July 16, 1983. The show's notoriety prompted feature stories in People magazine and The Times, though much of the attention was focused on George's relationship with his famous actress daughter. In a 1992 interview, he told The Times that he'd helped De Mornay establish herself as an actress when she moved to Hollywood from England, where she had lived with her mother until age 18. De Mornay has consistently refused to comment on her father and could not be reached Monday. George said that he gave her "all the love and support I could have" but that his politics and disapproval of her friends led to their estrangement. He was equally troubled in other personal relationships, being married and divorced at least four times. In recent years, he lived alone in a Garden Grove apartment. In 1999, George filed for bankruptcy, claiming assets of $1,900 and $90,000 in bills. He blamed poor career management and a series of health problems, including two bouts with cancer and a 1996 car crash in Woodland Hills. A full list of survivors was not immediately available. Besides De Mornay, George was the father of a son, Kerry, and another daughter, Holly, who was born in 1989. No information about funeral services or memorials was available Monday. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 18:24:51 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: Entirely OT: Belief-O-Matic >From: FS Thomas >Reply-To: FS Thomas >To: The Ranch >Subject: Entirely OT: Belief-O-Matic >Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 10:38:54 -0400 > >An interesting little test that asks you about your perceptions of God, >religion, and how your organized religion (should you chose one) should >ideally behave. > >I find the test remarkably accurate as I'm a 93% match for Neo-Pagan. > >http://www.beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html I think mine fit just right: 1. Reform Judaism (100%) 2. Sikhism (90%) 3. Liberal Quakers (85%) 4. Unitarian Universalism (83%) 5. Orthodox Judaism (82%) 6. Baha'm Faith (80%) 7. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (72%) 8. Neo-Pagan (68%) 9. Islam (67%) 10. New Age (56%) 11. Secular Humanism (56%) 12. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (53%) 13. Orthodox Quaker (51%) 14. Jainism (48%) 15. Mahayana Buddhism (44%) 16. New Thought (44%) 17. Eastern Orthodox (43%) 18. Roman Catholic (43%) 19. Hinduism (42%) 20. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (41%) 21. Theravada Buddhism (39%) 22. Taoism (39%) 23. Scientology (38%) 24. Nontheist (35%) 25. Seventh Day Adventist (34%) 26. Jehovah's Witness (32%) 27. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (29%) Max _________________________________________________________________ Help protect your PC. Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 15:35:57 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Entirely OT: Belief-O-Matic on 10/7/03 3:24 PM, Maximilian Lang at maximlang@hotmail.com wrote: >> From: FS Thomas >> Reply-To: FS Thomas >> To: The Ranch >> Subject: Entirely OT: Belief-O-Matic >> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 10:38:54 -0400 >> >> An interesting little test that asks you about your perceptions of God, >> religion, and how your organized religion (should you chose one) should >> ideally behave. >> >> I find the test remarkably accurate as I'm a 93% match for Neo-Pagan. >> >> http://www.beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html > > I think mine fit just right: > > 1. Reform Judaism (100%) > 2. Sikhism (90%) Mine fit just right also: 100% Secular Humanism - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 19:38:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Re: Entirely OT: Belief-O-Matic > Mine fit just right also: 100% Secular Humanism > > -tc Never saw you at any of the meetings. Jon, who expected to be 100% Nontheist but who seems to believe in something after all. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 19:51:17 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Entirely OT: Belief-O-Matic Tom Clark wrote: > > Mine fit just right also: 100% Secular Humanism Likewise: Liberal Quakers (100%) Didn't we go through all this sometime last year? ISTR some of the questions have changed. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 16:59:10 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: California Recall Just so you know, I voted for porn star Mary Carey, and forgot to cast my vote against the recall. Probably shouldn't have had that mescaline for breakfast... - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:05:11 -0700 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: Re: California Recall Tom sez: >Just so you know, I voted for porn star Mary Carey, and forgot to cast my >vote against the recall. Probably shouldn't have had that mescaline for >breakfast... I voted for Larry Flynt. I figure that it's only fair, considering everything the man has contributed to my social and emotional development. Cheers! - -g- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 19:25:21 -0500 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: Re: Entirely OT: Belief-O-Matic >http://www.beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html Those of you who might know me only as "the token JesusFeg" might be interested to read my scores. The very high Quaker score is completely unsurprising. I can't WAIT to tell my Southern-Baptist-preacher dad that I'm more secular humanist, Buddhist, Muslim, or Taoist than I am conservative Protestant. Heh heh heh. 1. Unitarian Universalism (100%) 2. Liberal Quakers (99%) 3. Reform Judaism (93%) 4. Neo-Pagan (92%) 5. Mahayana Buddhism (91%) 6. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (87%) 7. Sikhism (84%) 8. New Age (81%) 9. Baha'm Faith (80%) 10. Theravada Buddhism (75%) 11. Jainism (73%) 12. Orthodox Judaism (73%) 13. Orthodox Quaker (71%) 14. Islam (65%) 15. Hinduism (61%) 16. Taoism (58%) 17. Secular Humanism (51%) 18. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (48%) 19. New Thought (47%) 20. Scientology (46%) 21. Seventh Day Adventist (46%) 22. Nontheist (38%) 23. Eastern Orthodox (33%) 24. Roman Catholic (33%) 25. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (32%) 26. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (27%) 27. Jehovah's Witness (21%) - -- dolph ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 20:36:51 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Entirely OT: Belief-O-Matic Dolph Chaney wrote: > > I can't WAIT to tell my Southern-Baptist-preacher dad that > I'm more secular humanist, Buddhist, Muslim, or Taoist than I am > conservative Protestant. Heh heh heh. Well, What Would Jesus Be? Stewart (secretly pleased that Catherine's hometown baptist church was kicked out of the Southern Bapist Convention for being too liberal.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:46:09 -0700 From: Eb Subject: All right... ...so Ahnold has won. Any suggestions about which state I should move to? I'll consider any of them. Well, except Nebraska. ;P Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 01:32:40 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: All right... Quoting Eb : > ...so Ahnold has won. Any suggestions about which state I should > move > to? I'll consider any of them. Well, except Nebraska. How about Canada? (No, I'm not implying Canada's just another state...) ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: we make everything you need, and you need everything we make :: ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #370 ********************************