From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #365 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, October 3 2003 Volume 12 : Number 365 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Calling German Fegs (I know there is at least one!) [Carrie Galbraith ] Both kinds of Television ["Rex.Broome" ] Sleeping with your Howe Gelb mask ["Rex.Broome" ] John "Oscar" Mayer [Dolph Chaney ] I used to put Venus de Milo on every mix tape I made ["Natalie Jacobs" ] Re: I used to put Venus de Milo on every mix tape I made [Eb ] Re: Gordie, how? [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: Gordie, how? [Eb ] Re: Bobby, or? [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: Olgakor, but? [Eb ] Re: Sting [Michael R Godwin ] Re: VCR Alert ["Matt Sewell" ] Re: VCR Alert [Michael R Godwin ] Dr. Who, Executive Transvestite ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] RE: John "Oscar" Mayer & Sting ["Iosso, Ken" ] RE: John "Oscar" Mayer & Sting ["Jonathan Fetter" ] Calling All Fegs in Glasgow (100% B & S) ["Iosso, Ken" ] RE: John "Oscar" Mayer & Sting [Jeff Dwarf ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:56:25 +0200 (GMT+02:00) From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Calling German Fegs (I know there is at least one!) Ciao fellow German fegs, Am going to be in Frankfurt next week for the book fair (short notice but my life is full of short notices) and if you, or any of you, whichever applies, are near, let's do a feg gathering and take some fotos so we can send them to Unca' Nick and prove that fegs are everywhere - and a lot of fun too! I need that introduction to German beer that only a local can give... E-mail me offline to set up meeting times, etc. Be Seeing You, - - ethyl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 13:58:20 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: VCR Alert >Quoting Mike Swedene : > >> Just a quick programming note: >> > > 8-10PM A&E has Sting Dude was on Letterman, last night. I'm not really a Sting fan, but I have a hard time understanding why some people HATE him so much. And it doesn't really seem to be related to the "renouncing his punk roots" issue either. It's just some nebulous "so full of himself" gripe, I guess. The guy gets real songs in the top 40, played by real musicians. And his lyrics aren't generic. That can only be encouraging to me. For similar reasons, I don't really get the John Mayer hatred either. Incidentally, the booklet of Mayer's new album is quite droll and clever. I won't eat cole slaw. Nope. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:28:07 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Both kinds of Television Jeffrey: >>This is, of course, the Knoxville, alt-country Scott Miller, not the Bay >>Area, Love of Eb's Life Scott Miller. >>Miles and I (at least) say he's well worth seeing as well. I concur... Eb's act is not to be missed. Oh, wait... Speaking of Eb (after me): >>>the version of Marquee Moon in the album >>>proper retains the mistake on the original CD issue (it finishes instead of >>>fading out like it did on the original LP). >>Jeez. Would you have wanted "Little Johnny Jewel" to be divided into >>two parts, too? That's a legitimate snark, but hey, the fade on MM was there for ten years or so, and the first couple million times I (and many others) heard the album, and hey, look, now I've found my source-- on The Wonder, a Verlaine site that's awfully damned exhaustive: "According to knowledgeable sources, the CD version of the song Marquee Moon uses a different mix that was available from the 1976-77 studio sessions for the LP . Use of this different mix for the CD version of the song, was done by Elektra without Television's knowledge. Lenny Kaye recalls that in late 1976 (or early 1977) Elektra gave Verlaine an advance tape of the rough mixes of Marquee Moon. Kaye listened to the rough mixes and told Verlaine that he preferred the non-fadeout, but Verlaine said that he preferred the fade-out version." I read that as the artist's intent. Feel free not to buy "Let It Be... Naked", though. >>I still don't know if I could quote a single complete line of Television lyrics. It's >>all about the guitars, right? Remember how you capitalize the word "WRONG" and wrote "ree-diculous" spelled that funny way when you thought I'd grossly mischaracterized on of your pet artists? >>Oh, and Rex, there was no Television product on sale. Thank you for checking. And belated happy birthday! >>I watched very little primetime network TV over the summer, and am >>having trouble getting back into the swing. ;) We have the same problem, especially when integrating stuff we want to try to remember to watch with the kids' shifting bedtimes. All I can tell you is that the new Indian chick on ER is way cute, my homegirl "West Vir-" Jennifer Garner has some better acting chops than I realized, and this damn thing with Kelly Ripa that my wife made me watch has now supplanted that POD song as The Worst Thing Made By Humans In This Century". (My wife hated it to, less you get the wrong idea.) - -Rex "Little Johnny Jewel can stay in one piece but part of me *does* miss the saxes on The Man Who Invented Himself despite never really liking them to begin with" Broome ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:06:09 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Sleeping with your Howe Gelb mask Nat: >>I heard a Howe Gelb song once on a compilation. I really appreciate >>the fact that he looks like Satan. I wonder if he plucks his eyebrows to >>get them all evilly-looking like that? Probably not. He only looks slightly more like Satan than I do, and I achieve the effect precisely by not messing with the eyebrows at all. >>I've been meaning to buy "Adventure" for years, now here's my chance... when >>it's an expensive re-issue instead of a nice cheap "best value" version which >>probably is long out of print anyway. Ah, but think of the used copies that will proliferate now. Actually, oddly, it doesn't seem to be out of print... I saw the new and old versions of both albums sitting together in the bins at Virgin in Burbank last week. Weird. Speaking of Rob Zabreckie, he now has a magic act with David Lovering. Odd. My neighbor knows them both pretty well and I keep meaning to ask if the whole Pixies reunion thing is true. My pals at Goldenvoice claim the Pixies are headlining Coachella next year, but they said the same thing about the Clash this year (thruthfully). Which pretty much means Frank Black should be very very careful indeed. - -Rex, who actually has a fair degree of abstract, conceptual loyalty to LA, but goddamn do I gotta get these kids outta here before they hit school age... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 16:36:50 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Both kinds of Television on 10/2/03 3:28 PM, Rex.Broome at Rex.Broome@preferredmedia.com wrote: >>> I watched very little primetime network TV over the summer, and am >>> having trouble getting back into the swing. ;) > > We have the same problem, especially when integrating stuff we want to try > to remember to watch with the kids' shifting bedtimes. I have two words for you my friend: TiVO Those who haven't used it can't grasp the concept. Those who use it once can't live without it. And for those of you who are going to throw out this "Oh, I don't watch TV because there's never anything good on" shit, I say that's because you're not looking. Having a two week searchable guide, program scheduling and time-shifted viewing allows me to see that 2AM debate on C-Span as well as record everything with Gwyneth Paltrow in it. And don't tell the MPAA or whatever fascist group looks after TV, but I save all the episodes of certain children's programs and burn compilation DVDs of them for my daughter. Oh wait, that's Fair Use - fuck you whomever you are! That's that for that. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 18:56:32 -0500 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: John "Oscar" Mayer At 03:58 PM 10/2/2003, Eb wrote: >For similar reasons, I don't really get the John Mayer hatred either. >Incidentally, the booklet of Mayer's new album is quite droll and clever. I was resolutely NOT into previous John Mayer material, and my beef was mainly about his (or his A&R / management's) obviousness in arranging and packaging his stuff to feed the DMB market. But HEAVIER THINGS is *exactly* the record I hoped Mr. Mayer had in him -- if I'd been asked to produce him, it would have come out very close to that. [Except I wouldn't have let him off the hook with a couple of those too-easy rhymes.] ;) - -- dolph - -- who, now that the Cubs are in the playoffs, has to endure a local radio station's Mayer-rework entitled "Wrigley Is A Wonderland"... - -- and who, speaking of Dave Matthews, was hilarified to hear his new solo single -- he's replaced the one good thing about his music (his band, especially the drummer) and replaced it with weak electro-beats, proving once again that he owes David Gray EVERYTHING. - -- and who... oh never mind. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 17:04:30 -0700 From: "Natalie Jacobs" Subject: I used to put Venus de Milo on every mix tape I made . But I'm just >mystified as to where this priest thing comes from... movies on TV, I'd >guess. Anyway... sad and worried over here... Past life, maybe? I dunno... having had two grandparents decline similarly, you have my sympathies. I was just remembering one of the last coherent things my grandmother said to me before she died a few years ago... I told her it was my birthday and she said, "I wish I could bake you a cake." *sigh* ... a cheap copy of 10000 Maniacs/Our Time in Eden (I've >always had this on cassette). And, yes, Our Time in Eden is just as >stultifyingly tuneless as I remember. You bought it even though you knew you didn't like it? Still, it *was* "Marquee Moon," >complete with that absolutely sublime passage where the band builds >into an assault of unison, staccato notes, which then magically >dissolves into creamy tangential ripples...whew. Has an orgasm ever >been portrayed better in music? Oh, so I'm not the only person who thinks that. I would kill to see Television - I don't care if they're not as good as the "good old days." Maybe they'll tour to support these new re-releases... actually I heard they're working on a new album, so maybe they'll tour to support that. (keeps fingers crossed) Recently there was a really good article about Television in Mojo, in which Tom Verlaine appeared to be a massive asshole. Among other things, his dismissal of his sometime amour Patti Smith as just some dumb broad was really pathetic. Fortunately he's got talent (and at one time, looks - despite his extreme skinniness) to make up for it. >A joke? Thank the Mahadeva that you told me in time to cancel my >Decembrists order from amazon. > >Fuck you, Decembrists! Fuck you, Jason Thornton! Buy it anyway! Support fegdom wherever it manifests, even if said feg doesn't like LA! Viva Decembrists! Viva fegdom! Viva - uh, anything else that requires my support! never mind, n. _________________________________________________________________ High-speed Internet access as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). Click here. https://broadband.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:11:58 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: VCR Alert Quoting Eb : > I'm not really a Sting fan, but I have a hard time understanding why > some people HATE him so much. And it doesn't really seem to be > related to the "renouncing his punk roots" issue either. It's just > some nebulous "so full of himself" gripe, I guess. > > The guy gets real songs in the top 40, played by real musicians. And > his lyrics aren't generic. That can only be encouraging to me. I'm not sure what you mean by "real musicians," but even if I might be willing to concede that Sting has some technical facility in songwriting, it's overwhelmed by his faults, in my ears. Those faults include a cloying sense of righteousness, a predilection toward facile New Age philosophizing, a tendency to think of himself as much smarter and more well read than he actually is (see also: Lou Reed), and yeah, the ego thing kind of puts all that stuff up together. Plus, I kind of find his voice annoying, and after the first two solo albums, I realized he seemed to be going to a path paved entirely with smooth, shiny, oh-so-tastefully arranged little Martha Stewart ersatz paving stones: like the worst of Steely Dan without the acidic wit or sneaky chord sequences. The "renouncing punk roots" thing doesn't make much sense: Sting's punk roots are as genuine as his hairs' roots are blond, and he probably got them from the same store, for the same reasons. That wouldn't bother me, and didn't, for the first few albums (a guy who played in jazz bands, a prog-rocker, and the son of globetrotting diplomats /=/ punk rock - unless they want it to). I think it was "Driven to Tears" that set Sting off: that particular song seems heartfelt, and genuine in his realization of the essential shallowness of both mainstream western society *and* the easy, pissy punk way of rejecting it - but unfortunately, instead of becoming a monk or joining the Peace Corps, he attempted to bring all the enormous powers of his ego to bear tediously berating anyone who'd listen all about the third world and solar power and saving the whales and loving someone letting the free. Oh - and the tantric sex bragging. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: sex, drugs, revolt, Eskimos, atheism ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:19:34 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: I used to put Venus de Milo on every mix tape I made >I would kill to see Television - I don't care if they're not as good >as the "good old days." Maybe they'll tour to support these new >re-releases... actually I heard they're working on a new album, so >maybe they'll tour to support that. (keeps fingers crossed) There *were* at least two new songs in the Television Set -- I'm not sure if I mentioned this before. One which I liked a lot had a surprisingly Merseybeat-like section. Imagine the Beatles' "Hold Me Tight." That type of sound. I asked Lloyd's ex what she knew about a new TV album, and she just said something vague like "They are in discussion." Ebbleganger ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 18:21:55 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Gordie, how? >Those faults include a cloying sense of righteousness Beats a cloying sense of *brattiness*, like just about every goddamn thing I hear on KROQ. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:47:11 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Gordie, how? Quoting Eb : > >Those faults include a cloying sense of righteousness > > Beats a cloying sense of *brattiness*, like just about every goddamn > thing I hear on KROQ. For those of us living outside LA and KROQ's broadcast area, please elucidate... - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: PLEASE! You are sending cheese information to me. I don't want it. :: I have no goats or cows or any other milk producing animal! :: --"raus" np: Stephen Malkmus & the Jicks - Pig Lib bonus stuff...uh-oh, *that* might strike some as having a CS of B... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:52:55 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Gordie, how? >Quoting Eb : > >> >Those faults include a cloying sense of righteousness >> >> Beats a cloying sense of *brattiness*, like just about every goddamn >> thing I hear on KROQ. > >For those of us living outside LA and KROQ's broadcast area, please >elucidate... You know what's popular. The Good Charlottes. All that harmless teen-punk sh*t which sounds/looks so much alike that I can't imagine how people even form distinct opinions from act to act. Eb, freshly back from his second fastest run around the track ever :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 23:11:30 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Bobby, or? Quoting Eb : > >Quoting Eb : > > > >> >Those faults include a cloying sense of righteousness > >> > >> Beats a cloying sense of *brattiness*, like just about every > goddamn > >> thing I hear on KROQ. > > > >For those of us living outside LA and KROQ's broadcast area, please > >elucidate... > > You know what's popular. The Good Charlottes. All that harmless > teen-punk sh*t which sounds/looks so much alike that I can't imagine > how people even form distinct opinions from act to act. I'm imagining you meant a comma to separate "know" and "what's" - if you didn't, in fact, I don't. I've seen pictures of GC - which all by themselves are enough to make me snort and roll my eyes and, by this point, ask them if they borrowed those clothes from their dads. I wonder what circa '76 punks would say if someone told them, the basic look you've created will be being worn by pathetic teens and entertainers who think they're "punk"...27 years in the future. Anyway, I've never knowingly heard a note of Good Charlotte - but I'll betcha I could write several of their songs without having heard them. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb :: --Batman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:50:52 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Olgakor, but? > > You know what's popular. The Good Charlottes. All that harmless >> teen-punk sh*t which sounds/looks so much alike that I can't imagine >> how people even form distinct opinions from act to act. > >I'm imagining you meant a comma to separate "know" and "what's" - if >you >didn't, in fact, I don't. Ah, my mistake. You seem like such a hip, indie kind of guy that I figured you knew what you were avoiding in the mainstream. ;P Eb, currently pondering the meaning of "selling like hotcakes" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:36:04 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Sting On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > The "renouncing punk roots" thing doesn't make much sense: Sting's punk > roots are as genuine as his hairs' roots are blond, and he probably got > them from the same store, for the same reasons. You saw 'Quadrophenia' then? Of all the many howlers in that film (post-Brunswick Who _LPs_ at mod parties supposedly set in 1963/4?) the casting of Sting as a 17-year-old was one of the most ludicrous. - - MRG PS I always assumed that "selling like hot cakes" referred to the fact that they cool off quickly, so you want to buy and eat them while they are still hot. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 10:30:22 +0100 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: VCR Alert Sting in A&E? If only! I hope it was from a poison blowdart, from an indigenous rainforest dweller... Next time I see Sting I'm going to slap him and say "What about the rainforests, Gordon? And your environmentalism? And the vegetarianism?" (he did an ad for Jaguar - a car which uses gallons of fuel just getting out of the driveway, has a dashboard made of rainforest hardwood and has leather seats*) Cheers Matt np (on the internal jukebox): Jilted John (ie. Gordon is a moron) PS in the UK A&E is the same as US ER (no, not the TV programme!) *The bit about the leather seats is perhaps unfair - I know many veggies wear leather. >From: Mike Swedene >Reply-To: Mike Swedene >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: VCR Alert >Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:03:32 -0700 (PDT) > >Just a quick programming note: > >8-10PM A&E has Sting >11:35 PM REM on Letterman > >that is all. > >Mike > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search >http://shopping.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Half price modem, FREE connection and one month FREE - click here to sign up to BT Broadband. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:51:23 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: VCR Alert On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Matt Sewell wrote: > np (on the internal jukebox): Jilted John (ie. Gordon is a moron) Did you catch the re-run on TOTP2 last month? Brilliant. I had misremembered the fact that there was a one-chord guitarist and a pansy back-up singer on stage as well as GF. - - Ken Worthington PS The first half of the LP (with the fancy mice saga) is great, but the second "looking-for-Julie-in-the-heart-of-the-city" side doesn't quite make it. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 09:11:49 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Dr. Who, Executive Transvestite Comic Izzard tipped as new Dr Who Eddie Izzard as Dr. Who. Oh, yesssssssss. I cannot wait to see the mink stole he wears for a scarf. But would he wear stiletto heels? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:15:47 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Dr. Who, Executive Transvestite On Fri, Oct 3, 2003, Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > Comic Izzard tipped as new Dr Who > > > > Eddie Izzard as Dr. Who. Oh, yesssssssss. I cannot wait to see the mink > stole he wears for a scarf. But would he wear stiletto heels? Wow, cool. But I think Richard E. Grant would also be excellent. Maybe better then Izzard, as much as I love him. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:31:07 -0500 From: "Iosso, Ken" Subject: RE: John "Oscar" Mayer & Sting It's hard to put a finger on why I switch the station every time a Sting or John Mayer song comes on the radio, but I think it's because it's bland and accessible. Both can be used as sort of elevator music for sophisticated people. Smooth jazzy flourishes, breathy voices, warm images, yuk. Cool! They're playing "I'm Into Something Good" on the oldies station. I don't care who they are personally or how they live their lives, but their music does nothing for me. I must admit that I really enjoy Pete Yorn, and some could accuse him of some of the same things, but those jangly melodies and that angst filled voice work for me. One other music note: I LOVE that new REM song - I think it's "Bad Day." Ken Iosso - -----Original Message----- From: Dolph Chaney [mailto:dolphmusic@rcn.com] Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 6:57 PM To: fgz Subject: John "Oscar" Mayer At 03:58 PM 10/2/2003, Eb wrote: >For similar reasons, I don't really get the John Mayer hatred either. >Incidentally, the booklet of Mayer's new album is quite droll and clever. I was resolutely NOT into previous John Mayer material, and my beef was mainly about his (or his A&R / management's) obviousness in arranging and packaging his stuff to feed the DMB market. But HEAVIER THINGS is *exactly* the record I hoped Mr. Mayer had in him -- if I'd been asked to produce him, it would have come out very close to that. [Except I wouldn't have let him off the hook with a couple of those too-easy rhymes.] ;) - -- dolph - -- who, now that the Cubs are in the playoffs, has to endure a local radio station's Mayer-rework entitled "Wrigley Is A Wonderland"... - -- and who, speaking of Dave Matthews, was hilarified to hear his new solo single -- he's replaced the one good thing about his music (his band, especially the drummer) and replaced it with weak electro-beats, proving once again that he owes David Gray EVERYTHING. - -- and who... oh never mind. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:48:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: RE: John "Oscar" Mayer & Sting There is an Onion article pretending to be written by Sting entitled, "You Know, I Used to be Cool." Unfortunately it does not appear to be online. Stung, Jon On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:31:07 -0500 , "Iosso, Ken" wrote : > It's hard to put a finger on why I switch the station every time a Sting or > John Mayer song comes on the radio, but I think it's because it's bland and > accessible. Both can be used as sort of elevator music for sophisticated > people. Smooth jazzy flourishes, breathy voices, warm images, yuk. Cool! > They're playing "I'm Into Something Good" on the oldies station. > > I don't care who they are personally or how they live their lives, but their > music does nothing for me. I must admit that I really enjoy Pete Yorn, and > some could accuse him of some of the same things, but those jangly melodies > and that angst filled voice work for me. > > One other music note: I LOVE that new REM song - I think it's "Bad Day." > > Ken Iosso > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dolph Chaney [mailto:dolphmusic@rcn.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 6:57 PM > To: fgz > Subject: John "Oscar" Mayer > > At 03:58 PM 10/2/2003, Eb wrote: > >For similar reasons, I don't really get the John Mayer hatred either. > >Incidentally, the booklet of Mayer's new album is quite droll and clever. > > I was resolutely NOT into previous John Mayer material, and my beef was > mainly about his (or his A&R / management's) obviousness in arranging and > packaging his stuff to feed the DMB market. But HEAVIER THINGS is > *exactly* the record I hoped Mr. Mayer had in him -- if I'd been asked to > produce him, it would have come out very close to that. [Except I wouldn't > have let him off the hook with a couple of those too-easy rhymes.] ;) > > -- dolph > -- who, now that the Cubs are in the playoffs, has to endure a local radio > station's Mayer-rework entitled "Wrigley Is A Wonderland"... > -- and who, speaking of Dave Matthews, was hilarified to hear his new solo > single -- he's replaced the one good thing about his music (his band, > especially the drummer) and replaced it with weak electro-beats, proving > once again that he owes David Gray EVERYTHING. > -- and who... oh never mind. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:30:48 -0500 From: "Iosso, Ken" Subject: Calling All Fegs in Glasgow (100% B & S) Belle & Sebastian is having a little competition for tickets at their website to their record release party at the Mono. It's described here. It also says that they will be hanging around a cd store in Glasgow signing posters, new cds...maybe even breasts. If anyone is going down there, I'd be happy to buy the cd and a signed poster (especially signed by Stuart) and pay for shipping of course. Here's the news. Thanks to the lovely people at Monorail, we're having a party this Sunday night at Mono in Glasgow to celebrate the release of the album on Monday. Unfortunately it's a ticketed affair, but we have 10 pairs of tickets to give away to the first 10 people who can email me the correct answer to this question:- Which football team does Stuart Murdoch support? If you are one of the lucky winners, then I will email you back straight away. Don't despair if you don't win though, Monorail will open it's doors at midnight Sunday night / Monday morning so you can be one of the first people to purchase "Dear Catastrophe Waitress" in the UK!. The band will be milling about the record shop when it opens and I'm sure they'll be happy to sign copies for you if you buy one and there'll probably be some posters or other things about too. So come on down anyway, the address is Monorail Music, 12 Kings Court, King Street, Glasgow G1. Ken Iosso ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 10:47:17 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: VCR Alert Sting on 10/3/03 2:30 AM, Matt Sewell at matt_sewell@hotmail.com wrote: > Sting in A&E? If only! I hope it was from a poison blowdart, from an > indigenous rainforest dweller... Next time I see Sting I'm going to slap > him and say "What about the rainforests, Gordon? And your > environmentalism? And the vegetarianism?" (he did an ad for Jaguar - a > car which uses gallons of fuel just getting out of the driveway, has a > dashboard made of rainforest hardwood and has leather seats*) > > > *The bit about the leather seats is perhaps unfair - I know many veggies > wear leather. I'm a veggie who owns one pair of leather shoes, reluctantly. However, I spend so much time in my car that I couldn't fathom sitting on cloth seats. Believe me, I hate the hypocrisy, but you've got to pick your battles in this world. My wife owns a Jaguar, and it gets surprisingly good gas mileage (~20MPG, not great, but more than you'd expect). Not to defend Sting, who I think is a sellout and a bore, but the Jag uses Burr Walnut hardwood, which is primarily grown in Europe. Anyway, most of your points hit home with me, so I felt compelled to respond. Friday! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:51:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: RE: John "Oscar" Mayer & Sting "Iosso, Ken" wrote: > It's hard to put a finger on why I switch the station > every time a Sting or John Mayer song comes on the radio, > but I think it's because it's bland and accessible. Both > can be used as sort of elevator music for sophisticated > people. Smooth jazzy flourishes, breathy voices, warm > images, yuk. Cool! They're playing "I'm Into Something > Good" on the oldies station. "Your Body is a Wonderland" also, as one of my co-workers pointed out to me one morning, sounds mysteriously like Extreme's "More Than Words," if not in production, that surely in pseudo-edgy blandness. > One other music note: I LOVE that new REM song - I think > it's "Bad Day." Is that the one that based on a half-written song from 1986 that was also mutated into "It's the End of the WOrld...?" ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! 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