From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #357 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, September 24 2003 Volume 12 : Number 357 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Cut outs etc. ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: Television-Live At The Old Waldorf, San Francisco, 6/29/78 ["Brian" <] Re: Cut outs etc. [Eb ] Re: Attention shoppers.... [Aaron Mandel ] Re: Cut outs etc. [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: where the &*@! are the prawns? (100% RH content) ["Jonathan Fetter" <] Underrated Hitchcock (oh so much Robyn content) ["Rex.Broome" ] No Robyn, but more etymology... [Catherine Simpson ] Re: Cut outs etc. [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Cut outs etc. [Eb ] Re: where the &*@! are the prawns? (100% RH content) ["Stewart C. Russell] so what's the deal with all the subject changing, then? ["Stewart C. Russ] seems like we go on for days and days about the same topic no matter what the subject line says, and not everyone sorts by subject, and it's fun [] RE: Cut outs etc. ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: seems like we go on for days and days about the same topic no matter what the subject line says, and not everyone sorts by subject, and it's fun [] Re: seems like we go on for days and days about the same topic no matter what the subject line says, and not everyone sorts by subject, and it's fun [] RE: Cut outs etc. [John Barrington Jones ] Re: Not to mention the War on Tara... [Miles Goosens ] RE: Cut outs etc. [Miles Goosens ] Heidi-hi campers... [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Dean Wareham on Law & Order ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: Dean Wareham on Law & Order [Ken Weingold ] crazed lefty anti-war Bush-bashing, ctd. [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] fuckable or not? ["Natalie Jacobs" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:50:35 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Cut outs etc. Me, then Eb: >>>>since Wainwright immediately brings to mind the phrase "miserable >>>>whine". >>Ree-dic-ulous. Yes, that one, too. ;) Matter of taste, of course, but when I hear the current school of quavery, melodramatic male vocals, I reach for my shot. Gun. But we all know I only like godawful vocalists anyway. >>http://pitchforkmedia.com/features/castoffs-and-cutouts/ >>An entertaining list, though it doesn't seem to have much in common >>with the bins around *this* promo-soaked land. Living in that same land I have to agree 100%... used bins are probably one of the last bastions of musical regionality in the US. 'Round here I see more and more Limp Bizkit, a band that was huge two years ago but you can't find *anyone* who would ever admit to having liked them today. The obvious, foregone-conclusion winner for most-sold-back record of 2003, though, is of course Liz Phair, "Liz Phair". I check in with 20 of these, of which I probably bought about half from, yep, used bins. However, I'd still encourage anyone who doesn't have them to pick up Everclear, Simpatico!, Pup Tent, and to a lesser extent Star and Last Splash if they see 'em at these prices. Actually I was just perusing some used bins this weekend for the first time in a while, and hell, almost everything starts at $9 all of the sudden. When the UMG price slash occurs- if it does, I'm starting to doubt it- these prices for used discs won't hold up, will they? They'd be only two bucks shy of a new disc... - -Rex "or did I just dream it?" Broome ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:36:04 -0800 From: "Brian" Subject: Re: Television-Live At The Old Waldorf, San Francisco, 6/29/78 On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 08:48:52 -0700, "Marc Holden" said: > I just got an update from Rhino Handmade that might interest a few people > http://www.rhinohandmade.com/browse/ProductLink.lasso? Number=7846 Gee, thanks Marc. Like I need to spend any more $$ on cds! This is good though. I just picked up Sly And The Family Stone - Who In The Funk Do You Think You Are: The Warner Bros. Recordings. Nice 'cause I've been looking for the 1979 album "Back on the Right Track" for a while and here it is along with my favorite 80's flop "Ain't But The One Way", plus some bonus demos. Eb- you can hear samples of Sly's 80's album you never knew existed on their website. I'm still debating if I should pick up the Television live since I have that entire show on bootleg. thanks for the info Marc and Max. - -Nuppy - -- Brian nightshadecat@mailbolt.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:49:39 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Cut outs etc. >Me, then Eb: >>>>>since Wainwright immediately brings to mind the phrase "miserable >>>>>whine". > >>>Ree-dic-ulous. > >Yes, that one, too. ;) > >Matter of taste, of course, but when I hear the current school of quavery, >melodramatic male vocals, I reach for my shot. Gun. "Quavery, melodramatic" might apply to Wainwright. "Miserable whine" simply does NOT. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:57:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Attention shoppers.... On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Eb wrote: > An entertaining list, though it doesn't seem to have much in common with > the bins around *this* promo-soaked land. (I bet the guy lives around > Boston, because there sure were a lot of Boston bands included.) There were a lot of other things on the list I just never see around here, though. He made some comment at the beginning about "virtual bins"; I think that means "thanks to the web, I didn't leave my desk to research this story". The number of Boston bands is probably due to the amount of nationwide mediocrity emitted by Boston during the last big period of record-company optimism. a ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:16:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Cut outs etc. Eb wrote: [dueling Broomes leading to:] > "Quavery, melodramatic" might apply to Wainwright. > "Miserable whine" simply does NOT. I'm completely agnostic on Rufus but any melodramatic voice that is personally annoying is almost by definition a miserably whine whether you're talking Rufus Wainwright, Thom Yorke, Morrissey, or anyone else. ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:17:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Re: where the &*@! are the prawns? (100% RH content) Very well put Miles--this is part of what's been bugging me about Recent-Robyn, why I've only listened to JFSophia five times max, never bothered with Bram, and have avoided Luxor so far. Maybe it's part of getting older and he's trying to be mature or the creative energies are flowing in different ways, but I think when Robyn starts stuttering and repeating himself like Van Morrison while singing about feelings, we'll all be in trouble. That said, I am glad that Robyn is still singing and has not done something like adopting Islam and rejecting his own music. And I am hopeful that he will let himself go on his next solo album, and not just a tossed-off list of cheese varieties. Let there be more obscurity, Jon On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:50:14 -0500, Miles Goosens wrote : > At 12:51 PM 9/23/2003 -0600, Devin Lee Ens wrote: > >Also for discussion re Luxor: Where are the prawns? > > And that transitions nicely into my main complaint about LUXOR, and generally about Robyn's work since (perhaps even beginning with) RESPECT. To me, Robyn has far *less* appeal to me when he's singing directly about his feelings. I think at some point he began to take seriously the oft-repeated complaint about him being a funny guy who sang funny songs about fish and balloon men and being dead. As a result, he's become a far more ordinary, conventional- sounding (by Robyn standards) singer-songwriter. > > More often than not, the flora and fauna populating Robyn's songs *were* expressing very real emotions and urges. I've come to realize that an enormous part of what must have drawn me to Robyn was the way that he expressed his innermost feelings in such an astoundingly creative way, through these symbolic proxies. Records like UNDERWATER MOONLIGHT, I OFTEN DREAM OF TRAINS, FEGMANIA!, ELEMENT OF LIGHT, and GLOBE OF FROGS (always my "underrated classic" pick from Robyn's catalog) were packed with emotion. The amazing thing was seeing these emotions take these amazing corporeal forms in Robyn's lyrics and music. > > (Sometimes a fly was just a fly, but that's beside the point. I think.) > > Over the last dozen years or so, in interviews Robyn has often remarked about how he wants to become a more direct person, more able to express his feelings without creating layers of intermediaries, both in his private life and in his art. And he's done that, both in his art and, as far as we can tell from circumstantial evidence and from what we can glimpse of the man himself as reflected in that art, in his private life. This has probably made him a far better partner, father, and friend. It's got to be easier to live with a guy who'll just ask you to pass him the Cheezy Poofs instead of him constructing a ten- minute fable about a capybara, a lemon wedge, and Claes Oldenburg, when what he really wants is for you to pass him the Cheezy Poofs. > > Unfortunately for me as a fan, the soundtrack Robyn's constructed to accompany these changes, as most succinctly embodied by LUXOR, holds little interest for me. In fact, LUXOR caps a run of releases (NEXTDOORLAND excepted) where I've become progressively less interested in what Robyn's trying to do with his music. LUXOR comes across like the product of a slightly more off-kilter but still largely standard-issue confessional singer-songwriter, albeit one who's heard Syd Barrett and can pick a little rather than just strumstrumstrum. If it was the first Robyn album I ever encountered, I wouldn't buy another one. > > I haven't lost hope entirely, mostly because the late-model Soft Boys tapped into a lot of the strange, sometimes sinister spark that makes Robyn unique and compelling. And I'm not making some Griffis-like point about the primacy of the listener's needs over the needs of the artist himself -- far better that Robyn should be happier as a person and have more successful relationships than for me to be happier with Robyn's creative output. But I'm not going to sing LUXOR's praises just because Robyn's therapy is going well. > > later, > > Miles > > p.s.: all of this is just a more detailed way of saying what Melissa said after hearing ten minutes of LUXOR in the car -- "I like Robyn better when he's singing about things instead of feelings." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:57:43 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Underrated Hitchcock (oh so much Robyn content) Miles, hideously edited by me: >> I've come to realize that an enormous part of what must have drawn me to >>Robyn was the way that he expressed his innermost feelings in such an >>astoundingly creative way, through these symbolic proxies. [...] In fact, >>LUXOR caps a run of releases (NEXTDOORLAND excepted) where I've >>become progressively less interested in what Robyn's trying to do with his >>music. While I don't entirely agree, I can see where you're coming from. But... and this may just be me... I think you're giving short shrift* to Moss Elixir, which I think is a terrific fusion of the "old" and "new" approaches and a record of exceptional depth. >>Records like UNDERWATER MOONLIGHT, I OFTEN DREAM OF TRAINS, >>FEGMANIA!, ELEMENT OF LIGHT, and GLOBE OF FROGS (always my >>"underrated classic" pick from Robyn's catalog) were packed with emotion. I'm with you on Globe of Frogs. I figure I'm prejudiced because it was the first Robyn album I ever heard, but I love it and consider it kind of archetypal as a record, in that it has a bit of everything Robyn does, and it's all done well. And it's spiky enough to squash the apparently better-loved Queen Elvis like a mushy, overcooked grape. - -Rex *what the hell is "shrift", anyhoo, and why does it only seem to come in one size (short)? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:42:33 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Cut outs etc. Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > ... any melodramatic voice > that is personally annoying is almost by > definition a miserably whine whether you're > talking ... Nicolai Dunger! Saw him supporting Mercury Rev, and he sucked monstrously! All overwrought warbles over acoustic guitar. He destroyed Barrett's "Dark Globe" in a way I didn't think possible. He's so appallingly shite I'm tempted to download his album from emusic.com Or not. Stewart (who has 4 albums on the cutouts list, and quite likes them.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:50:41 -0700 From: Catherine Simpson Subject: No Robyn, but more etymology... Rex wondered: >>"what the hell is "shrift", anyhoo, and why does it only seem to come in one >>size (short)?" "Shrift" is from the Old English "scrift," meaning the act of confession (to a priest), carrying out the prescribed penance, and, ultimately, absolution from whatever sin(s) you'd confessed. "Short shrift" is the short time allowed a convicted criminal for final confession prior to execution. The modern meaning (more or less "not pay sufficient attention to" or "give little regard to") can be traced back to the early 1800s. Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Cut outs etc. "Rex.Broome" wrote: > >>http://pitchforkmedia.com/features/castoffs-and-cutouts/ > >>An entertaining list, though it doesn't seem to have > much in common > >>with the bins around *this* promo-soaked land. > > Living in that same land I have to agree 100%... used > bins are probably one of the last bastions of musical > regionality in the US. 'Round here I see more and more > Limp Bizkit, a band that was huge two years ago but you > can't find *anyone* who would ever admit to having liked > them today. The obvious, foregone-conclusion winner for > most-sold-back record of 2003, though, is of > course Liz Phair, "Liz Phair". > > I check in with 20 of these, of which I probably bought > about half from, yep, used bins. However, I'd still > encourage anyone who doesn't have them to pick up > Everclear, Simpatico!, Pup Tent, and to a lesser extent > Star and Last Splash if they see 'em at these prices. 25 of the 55 (since he cheated); also bought around half used. also used to own another 10 or so. I would also add that Dusk is a pretty damn terrific record. And while it's certainly significantly inferior to Smile, Nowhere, and Going Blank Again, Carnival of Light is nowhere near as bad as he makes it out to be. > Actually I was just perusing some used bins this weekend > for the first time in a while, and hell, almost > everything starts at $9 all of the sudden. Up here, it seems like all recent released are around 10-11.95 for the first few months or so, the begin there slow, steady decline to $5-7.95. > When the UMG price slash occurs- if it does, I'm starting > to doubt it- these prices for used discs won't hold up, > will they? They'd be only two bucks shy of a new disc... Supposedly, even though they cut the list prices by $6, they only dropped wholesale $3, so they'll just blame the retailers if the prices don't drop as much as they "promised." > -Rex "or did I just dream it?" Broome ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:35:14 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Cut outs etc. > > I check in with 20 of these > >25 of the 55 (since he cheated); also bought around half >used. 22 in my permanent collection (23, if you count the two Sugar releases in #3), plus a bunch of other albums which I rejected. *All* promos, which perhaps explains why they're in so many used bins. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:36:17 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: where the &*@! are the prawns? (100% RH content) Jonathan Fetter wrote: > > ... I've only listened to JFSophia five times > max, never bothered with Bram, and have > avoided Luxor so far. As far as I'm concerned regarding Luxor, the loss is purely yours. Some lovely songs there, and many mostly about things. > Let there be more obscurity Oh, there's plenty of obscurity. Mainly due to overfishing [I've just read "The Empty Ocean", and now my least favourite word is "bycatch"], Robyn's aquatic idiom seems to have shifted. I think he's writing from an English suburban garden point of view these days: ants, samosas, yams, sheds, tomatoes. Stewart - -- np: Kompressor -- "Girl from Ipanema" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:41:05 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: so what's the deal with all the subject changing, then? whyd'ja do it? It bugs the living piss out of me. It kills threads. Just stop it, it's so easy. Stewart (writing furiously in his Hating Book) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:59:04 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: seems like we go on for days and days about the same topic no matter what the subject line says, and not everyone sorts by subject, and it's fun At 03:41 PM 9/24/2003 -0400, Stewart C. Russell wrote: >whyd'ja do it? It bugs the living piss out of me. >It kills threads. Just stop it, it's so easy. See subject line above. Plus I sorta hate it when we get 18 days out on a thread that's been about vaginas for the last 12 days, but the subject line still says it's about Pufinstuff vs. Thunderbirds. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:56:10 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Cut outs etc. "Rex.Broome" wrote: > I check in with 20 of these, of which I probably bought > about half from, yep, used bins. However, I'd still > encourage anyone who doesn't have them to pick up > Everclear, Simpatico!, Pup Tent, and to a lesser extent > Star and Last Splash if they see 'em at these prices. I only have 11. Regarding Velocity Girl's "Simpatico" it's okay, but I much prefer the earlier Copacetic. I still can't make out the words that Sara is singing on Pretty Sister, but I like the effect of having her vocal mixed way down in the song. Copacetic would easily make my top 10 of 1993 list. Michael Bachman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:57:48 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: seems like we go on for days and days about the same topic no matter what the subject line says, and not everyone sorts by subject, and it's fun On Wed, Sep 24, 2003, Miles Goosens wrote: > At 03:41 PM 9/24/2003 -0400, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > >whyd'ja do it? It bugs the living piss out of me. It kills > >threads. Just stop it, it's so easy. > > See subject line above. > > Plus I sorta hate it when we get 18 days out on a thread that's been > about vaginas for the last 12 days, but the subject line still says > it's about Pufinstuff vs. Thunderbirds. I agree that subject lines should change with subject, but it would be very nice if people would at least use the customary "(was: old subject)". - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:12:22 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: seems like we go on for days and days about the same topic no matter what the subject line says, and not everyone sorts by subject, and it's fun - -- Ken Weingold is rumored to have mumbled on Mittwoch, 24. September 2003 15:57 Uhr -0400 regarding Re: seems like we go on for days and days about the same topic no matter what the subject line says, and not everyone sorts by subject, and it's fun: > I agree that subject lines should change with subject, but it would be > very nice if people would at least use the customary "(was: old > subject)". Or use decent mailers that create and honor References: headers ... ;-) - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:36:30 -0700 (PDT) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: RE: Cut outs etc. I love The Church's "Priest = Aura", and no one can convince me otherwise. =jbj=, not sure how many of the cutouts he has, but knows its less than 10 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:55:38 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Not to mention the War on Tara... At 01:13 PM 9/17/2003 -0700, Rex.Broome wrote: >Carrie: >>>And I never saw a Star Wars movie - for obvious reasons (to me) as they >>>are not, to my knowledge, [--] bleak with a capital B. > >Dude, the Phantom Menace is pretty damned dire, although probably not in the >way you mean. Certainly more depressing than your average Von Triers film >or what have you, though. Rex beat me to it. But while we're talking STAR WARS, I have no reservations about recommending* to fans of the series and/or computer role-playing gamers the marvelous STAR WARS: KNIGHTS OF THE OLD REPUBLIC. It's done by the Bioware folks, who did the superb BALDUR'S GATE series of games, and who adapt their D&D engine to the STAR WARS universe; it's absolutely freakin' beautifully done in terms of graphics and gameplay (pausing combat and swivelling around the camera to look at lightsabers and Force Powers in full effect is one of the greatest visual experiences I've ever had in a game); and the storyline and character development are as good as this gaming genre gets. I actually *cared* when things happened to my party members, which doesn't happen too often for me in games. It also brings into sharp relief the shortcomings of most of the films, especially the last two: the plot is exponentially better than that of Episodes 1 & 2 (and possibly 4 and 6!), and the mostly-serviceable voice acting in KOTOR trumps the mostly-petrified-stump performances in those films by an astounding margin. Let's see Lucas come up with characters as well-done as Bastila, Carth, Canderous, and especially teen Tw'ilek scoundrel Mission. I'm not even a fan of STAR WARS, and I'm totally hooked on KOTOR; I'm told by fans of the "Extended Universe" (KOTOR is set 4,000 years before the events of Episode 1) that it's chock full of details that aficionados will love. It's been out for the Xbox for a couple of months, and it should make its way to PCs by November 14th or thereabouts. no longer afraid of the galaxy way, Miles *first time ever that I have paired "no reservations about" and "STAR WARS" in a sentence where the combination of the two wasn't something like "I have no reservations about consigning George Lucas and his offal that he calls films to an especially painful eternity where George would actually have to watch those last two STAR WARS movies over and over." I mean, RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK can only counterbalance so much bantha dung before it gets pulled into the sludge too, and anyway, all of RAIDERS' best lines (like those in the original STAR WARS trilogy) were Harrison Ford ad libs. Which sort of brings us back to Robyn c. 1992 and those days when he was one of my four or five favorite things in the galaxy. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:35:21 -0700 From: Eb Subject: From Mr. Seligman http://www.amnesty.org.au/e-card/petition.asp MS wanted me to pass this link to the Feglist. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:12:47 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: RE: Cut outs etc. Due to cheap use of ties, the Pitchfork list is actually more than 50 titles long. Damned if I'll be bothered to add it up, though. Owned by me: 16 Liked/loved by me: 12 Undeserved cheap shots against: Joan Wasser of the Dambuilders (and god almighty, AGAINST THE STARS is a super album, even though this guy says it's "worse" than RUBY RED), Lush,* Luna's "Fuzzy Wuzzy," Eitzel/AMC,* Veruca Salt, Nirvana's "Verse Chorus Verse" (put it on IN UTERO where it belonged and I'd give it five stars), R.E.M.'s MONSTER (but you knew I was going to say that) Deserved cheap shots against: Filter, Stabbing Westward, DYLAN AND THE DEAD On a different planet than me: Chris Ott, the writer, whose taste clearly leans (as does Pitchfork as a whole) toward that moment in the mid-'90s where I was either indifferent to or couldn't stand most of the things my peers were raving about. Tired of: smartass Pitchfork lists. I've seen so much snottiness and elitism lo these many years that it's tough for me to get all worked up (pro or con) about such obvious trolling. later, Miles *and I'm not even a big fan of these folks. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:25:02 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Heidi-hi campers... > 1991991, the reverse of 911. this man has been eating far too many crayons. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:18:08 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Dean Wareham on Law & Order Did any Law & Order/Luna fans catch Dean Wareham in the opening Scene of the new Law & Order eppy? If you are on the west coast...heads up. Max _________________________________________________________________ Instant message in style with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:23:32 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Dean Wareham on Law & Order On Wed, Sep 24, 2003, Maximilian Lang wrote: > Did any Law & Order/Luna fans catch Dean Wareham in the opening Scene of > the new Law & Order eppy? If you are on the west coast...heads up. Or if anyone gets both East and West coasts of the networks. :) If anyone watches 3rd Watch (I don't) they were just filming part of an episode outside the building I work in last week. Something with a bunch of cops running out of cop cars and shooting guns. I got to be rude and walk through part of the set since I work in the building. It's the US Bankruptcy Court/Smithsonian Museum for the Native American at Bowling Green in NY, along side Battery Park . Historic looking building with gargoyles around it. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:39:13 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: crazed lefty anti-war Bush-bashing, ctd. Okay, guess which crazed LAWBBer wrote this before W. invaded Iraq? "Trying to eliminate Saddam...will incur incalculable human and political costs. Apprehending him is probably impossible.... We would be forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq...[but] there is no viable 'exit strategy' we can see.... Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the United Nations mandate, will destroy the precedent of international response to aggression.... If we go the invasion route, the United States will conceivably be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land." ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: it's not your meat :: --Mr. Toad ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 19:47:31 -0700 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: re: sitar and banjo James recommended: "you should hunt down a copy of Pentangle's version of the trad "House Carpenter", from about 1970. Main instruments were sitar and banjo." thanks, I will look it up. Not sure what to think of all the Canadian band talk here. Buffy Ste. Marie, does she sound like a ghost too? Is that what ghosts sound like? If so, I like it (to a certain extent). Diana Krall makes my skin krall, since I hate that kind of jazz. Barbara Soutar Victoria, British Columbia ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:23:22 -0700 From: "Natalie Jacobs" Subject: fuckable or not? > >>Kathleen Edwards really couldn't follow that up But she was still >good,in > >>a Lucinda Williams-ish kind of way. Dunno if Rex would find >herfuckable, > >>though... > >Well, I just checked. She looks kind of like... my wife! So, well, yeah. >Suddenly I want her record more than I did before. I personally thought Rhett Miller was far more fuckable, but that's just me... Incidentally, I haven't heard his solo record that Robyn's on, but I certainly can't hear a trace of Robyn influence in the Old 97's. But I guess you can like someone without being influenced by them... >If you like that Yankee Nextel Hottentrot album, I think you might be >well-advised to give a listening-station audition to the recently reissued >"On the Beach" or "Tonight's the Night". Beautiful and stoned, if you >will. Yankee Whosis? Oh yeah, that album that sucks 'cos it's not alt-country. Yeah, I should check out some Neil... I actually really like his voice (I'm a sucker for weird voices, with the exception of fingernail-scraper Corin Tucker), and having grown up watching Canadian TV like all Michiganders, I should have more respect for the Canadian nation. >Monster probably has earned its #1 slot, however. ;) Belly/Star seems >like a pretty good choice, too. Jesus Jones/Doubt also gave me a >laugh of recognition -- in fact, it probably should rank much higher >on the list. I'm glad they included the inevitable Sugar album... I don't think I've EVER seen a cutout bin that didn't have at least one Sugar album in it. Anyone who likes XTC should immediately >buy all four Fuzzy Warbles titles, right now. Yes, you. Stop reading your >e-mail, order the damned things. Aren't they heavily-loaded with aural doodling and demos of already-released material, though? That was my understanding... > Sometimes, TV commercials are really messages from God to let >people know >more about the celestial relationship between Our Lady Heidi Klum and me, >Nick >Kaffes, aka Kansan1225. Bring back Denise Sharpe! n. _________________________________________________________________ High-speed Internet access as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). Click here. https://broadband.msn.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #357 ********************************