From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #353 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, September 21 2003 Volume 12 : Number 353 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Dead bands [crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com] Speling [crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com] Dueling Dagmars ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] "I would meet you anywhere western sun meets the air" ["Natalie Jacobs" <] Canadian home-recording messiahs [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Dueling Dagmars ["Jon Lewis" ] (kinda) like a hurricane ["ross taylor" ] Banjo & sitar [Barbara Soutar ] Re: Dueling Dagmars [Eb ] Re: Flame Canada [glen (') ] Re: Sarah ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Whoa, Canada.... ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: SF in TO ["Stewart C. Russell" ] re: Whoa, Canada/TbMnBlG [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Flame Canada [Carrie Galbraith ] autumn gig update [ein kleines kinnemuzak ] Strung together like Christmas lights ["The Mammal Brain" that should be bated not baited. >gSs Blimey. I hope you're not going to do all the other ones as well... Crowbar Joe ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 16:49:37 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Dueling Dagmars I like Slapp Happy a whole lot. I think Dagmar Krause's singing should be played on public speakers at all times across the world. But why did they record Casablanca Moon twice? Any ideas? I prefer the Acnalbasac Noom version, btw. But it's all good. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 15:43:52 -0700 From: "Natalie Jacobs" Subject: "I would meet you anywhere western sun meets the air" > >p.s. On another subject, I bought a Geraldine Fibbers record ("the > >orange one" as Carla Bozulich called it) and I love it - any other > >recommendations as regards their other stuff would be welcome. > >Get the dark blue one. Check. I saw it at the record store today for $8.50 but opted for the Decembrists instead, as I was in that kind of mood. I may regret this move later, however. Miles sez - >For the first encore, Jay came back solo/acoustic to do Son Volt's >"Windfall" and "Tear-Stained Eye." Unlike Nataline's response to these >songs at the July Farrar/Easton show she caught in Portland, I didn't think >these made the previous songs "pale in comparison" (though of course these >drew the biggest crowd response -- keep in mind that the crowd >enthusiastically received the more recent material too), but showed how the >best of SEBASTOPOL was on a par with these songs, which I'd be happy to >agree are the best stuff Jay's written. I really like Sebastopol but I think it's really patchy - some of the songs are magnificent, others just sit there. I also have a strong personal and emotional connection to the Son Volt songs which I don't have with the Sebastopol songs, and even so, I just think they're better - they feel classic and timeless to me, while even the best of the Sebastopol material sometimes feels a little clumsy. I agree that Terroir Blues is a bit of a snoozer. The songs don't seem to go anywhere musically and the lyrics are full of truisms. I thought he was headed in an interesting direction with Sebastopol but he went off the rails, it seems like. I'd like to hear Farrar with a full band but to be honest, I wouldn't know a Neil Young song if it bit me in the ass (with the exception of his "hits"). >Canadian music is >almost totally and consistently of this one quality for which I have no >name. It's a sort of direct-to-video, carob-filled, decaffeinated, Big >Fun, don't-think-about-it-too-much kind of quality. We get all the Canadian crap in the same way they get all of our crap. So I got a big bundle of early birthday presents (seven more shopping days, kids!) from my mom, including a box of Pocky (Japanese candy), the trade paperback of "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" (the original comic, far superior to the film, apparently), and best of all - the Sonic Youth T-shirt that I bought when I saw them in Leeds, U.K. in 1993, and left in Ann Arbor when I moved. The shirt is way too big, stinks of turpentine because my mom wore it when she was doing artwork, and it's really ugly, but I'm still very happy to have it back. That was the only time I've ever seen Sonic Youth and it's a good memento of the occasion. I still remember Thurston Moore's witty stage patter - when Lee Ranaldo broke a string and was busy fixing it, Thurston said awkwardly, "So this is Leeds.... what do you do all day?" Ahh, memories. n. now watching: Kim Gordon, Steve Shelley, and Thurston Moore on the SY webcam, again - but where's Jim?? _________________________________________________________________ High-speed Internet access as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). Click here. https://broadband.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 11:12:02 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Canadian home-recording messiahs >Hey Glen, not just Glen - I thought I sent a message here too saying I'm in the same boat (except I've got USL and Firewire, but no SCSI on my brand new EMac). Must've sent it, erm, somewhere else. I hope all messages about home recording have been going to the list and not offlist - Glen, if you got any that didn't appear here, I'd like to see 'em too! - --- Someone else remembers the screaming Blue Messiahs! Yay! - --- Daniel Lanois. To quote Alice - "Canadians sing like ghosts". After hearing that comment, I made up a mixtape of Canadians who sing like ghosts: Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Jane Siberry, Daniel Lanois, k.d.lang, Loreena McKennitt, Robbie Robertson... think I put some Steppenwolf in there, too - and (though I know virtually no-one here can stand them) a Crash Test Dummies track. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 21:34:23 -0400 From: "Jon Lewis" Subject: Re: Dueling Dagmars > I like Slapp Happy a whole lot. I think Dagmar Krause's singing should > be played on public speakers at all times across the world. But why > did they record Casablanca Moon twice? Any ideas? > Yes!!! I love Dagmar too... I know her mainly from the three Art Bears records, which I adore. Really the only 70's prog stuff I can wholeheartedly embrace without cavil. (I love the power-trio era of Crimson, but you really do have to wilfully ignore those lyrics). Dagmar! I need to check out Slapp Happy soon, I guess... that obvious move has somehow escaped me til now. I guess I didn't realize she was an integral part of that band as well. I do also have that later disc of her singing Eisler and Weill in German and English. I play that one a lot too. Didn't she sing on an early Michael Nyman piece? "He danced off his clothes in the grip of a demon, danced off his flesh, I have entered his bones here in this register..." JPL ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 21:36:27 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: (kinda) like a hurricane Our power is back on. Wasn't so bad having it off for a day & a half, but thinking it probably wouldn't be back for a week was depressing. Plus the wife got a ruptured disk just on the eve of Isabell, so it had the feel of a movie where somebody always has a broken leg slowing down the escape from a volcano or invasion of giant buffalo-sized hampsters. I notice our Cox email still seems stalled. We are a happy island of creature comforts & will be providing laundry, internet, refrigeration & stereo services to a sizeable bit of Northern Va. probably for days. - --- A depressing number of "reunions" come to the State Theater near us -- Jefferson Airplane, Leon Russell, Jimmy Cliff, "The Band" i.e. Levon Helm (originally a top Canadian Act, mostly from there & gestated there). Ross Taylor And don't forget Leonard Cohen. Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 19:10:54 -0700 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: Banjo & sitar A friend just played me a tape with a combination of sitar and banjo on it. Believe it or not, it sounded very good. I know Stewart is learning the banjo, so it might be of interest to him. I don't have the title or artist name - my friend is vague - but can get it if anyone is interested. From Appalachia to Himalaya might be a good title... Barbara Soutar Victoria, British Columbia ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 19:57:46 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Dueling Dagmars > > I like Slapp Happy a whole lot. I think Dagmar Krause's singing should >> be played on public speakers at all times across the world. But why >> did they record Casablanca Moon twice? Any ideas? >> > >Yes!!! I love Dagmar too... I know her mainly from the three Art Bears >records, which I adore. Really the only 70's prog stuff I can wholeheartedly >embrace without cavil. I've never heard a note of them, but I'm told that if I like the Art Bears, I *must* get the albums by the offshoot News from Babel. Eb, freshly back from a 5.5run and debating whether to go out ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 20:35:12 -0700 From: glen (') Subject: Re: Flame Canada On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 08:51:04 -0700, Eb wrote: > But let's not forget Cowboy Junkies, Jane Siberry, Robbie Robertson, > the Guess Who, Mary Margaret O'Hara, Nelly Furtado, Skip Spence, > Sarah McLachlan, Nomeansno, Jale and the new whiz-kids Hot Hot Heat. > Though I'm sure some of you *would* like to forget a few of those > names. ;) C'mon, people! Rick James! What about Moxy Fruvous? Gordon Lightfoot? The Band minus Levon Helm? Anybody remember a country band called Prairie Oyster. They were Canucks, IIRC, and they were damn good. - -- Cheers! - -g- "There are only 3 types of people in the world: Morons, assholes, and people you can hang out with. I don't give a fuck if you're black, white, Asian, Arab, male, female, gay or straight. It's all just morons, assholes, and people you can hang out with." --Joe Rogan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 07:28:03 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Sarah James Dignan wrote: > > You don't pronounce the r at the end of "fairer". You don't. I do. We get VFM from our consonants. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 07:40:55 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Whoa, Canada.... Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > This has concluded the list of Canadian Acts That Don't > Suck. Please remember to tip your waitresses. You oughtta get out more: Chris Coole Gorp Mayor McCA By Divine Right Oscar Peterson Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 07:45:38 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: SF in TO Capuchin wrote: > > ... pretty much all Canadian music falls into that category ... I think we tend to keep the really good stuff, and you're welcome to the rest of the shit. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 05:48:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: re: Whoa, Canada/TbMnBlG Dolph Chaney wrote: > Jeff's post listing only Neil Young was funny... Vaguely funny. It looks like someone didn't get it though. It was a very slight joke though. Not very original either. I'm just surprise that 24 hours later no one's mentioned Skinny Puppy! ===== Back to the Barenaked Ladies/They Might Be Giants question that started this: it seems like a reasonable comparison to me, in that they are both artists that if I'm listening to them straight through, after 3-4 songs they start grating on my nerves tremendously (Primus effects me the same way). But, I do have compilations of both and if I put them in my player with other stuff and I put in shuffle mode, I find myself enjoying them when they come up in the middle of whatever else I have shuffling. I think both have some decent tunes and can be funny, but both also lack a sense of gravity attatch that keeps them from being too cloying after too much exposure, unlike other frequently funny artists like Bauhaus. Or whatshisface. ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 17:29:21 +0200 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: Flame Canada Domenica, 21 set 2003, alle 03:36 Europe/Rome, ross taylor ha scritto: > And don't forget Leonard Cohen. THAT is exactly what I was going to say!!! - - ethyl ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 15:02:09 -0400 From: ein kleines kinnemuzak Subject: autumn gig update >From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com >Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 08:49:07 EDT >Subject: update 10/9 >To: woj@fegmania.org > >Robyn solo USA autumn dates > >Wed Oct 8: Athens, GA > >Thur Oct 9: Athens, GA >441/Morton Theatre (7:30 pm) > >Thur Oct 9: Athens, GA >Tour de Sprawl/40 Watt Club (11:00 pm) > >Fri Oct 17: Tucson, AZ - Club Congress > >Fri Oct 31: The Bottom Line, NYC > >Wed Nov 12: Aladdin Theatre, Portland, OR > >Sat Nov 15: Crocodile Cafe, Seattle, WA > >Mon Nov 17: Great American Music Hall, San Francisco, CA > >Sat Nov 22: Cafe Largo, Hollywood, CA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 13:10:40 -0700 From: "The Mammal Brain" Subject: Strung together like Christmas lights the new pornographers not only do not suck, they are also, at this current moment in time, the greatest motherfucking band on the planet. (well, maybe they're neck-and-neck with sleater-kinney.) also, mustn't forget crash vegas among canadian acts that not only do not suck, but downright lay a whipping on a hyena's ass with a belt. anyhow, i've uploaded a kick-ass piano version of The Lizard, and added links to mp3s (all two of 'em) to . robyn-to-TOOL in two hops: jon brion plays on the new perfect circle record...which i find as underwhelming as the first perfect circle record. hey, is there a way to easily render columns of text in CSS? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 17:53:39 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Kansan, inexplicably allowed to appear in public This morning I did not post any new message about Our Lady Heidi Klum, as is my habit, because I was in deep thought about her. I was communing with her on the celestial plane. Later on, I went to our Church, St. Basil the Great Greek Orthodox Church here in Houston, where my wife Dina and I sing in the choir. She is the substitute choir director and this morning our two teenage daughters, Caterina and Irenie, joined us in the choir for the first time. When we got there, I was asked to read the Apostle lesson for the congregation. During an Orthodox Church service, a lay Reader reads a segment from one of the books of the Apostles (the Letters, Acts, or Revelation) and later on the Deacon, or the Priest, reads a segment from one of the Four Gospels. I am not asked to read the Apostle lesson in Church more than once or twice every year, usually on days when the regular Reader is absent. I looked at the segment that I was supposed to read: Galatians 2:16-20! My hair stood on end! As you probably remember, dear readers, I had just quoted Galatians 1:15 this past Friday in the thread "Nikos Kazantzakis and Heidi Klum"! Before going to Church this morning, I had no idea that today's Apostle lesson was from Galatians. I took it as a sign of God's continuing favor towards me and my Mission. The Letter to the Galatians has another very special meaning for me, because it is there that St. Paul describes his sojourn in Arabia (Galatians 1:17), before starting to preach the Gospel of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ to the World. I, too, went into Arabia and lived in Riyadh for five years, from 1993 to 1998, before being called back to America by God to preach the Gospel of Our Lady Heidi Klum to the whole World through the Internet. With a slightly shaky voice I began to read the Apostle lesson and was almost in tears when I was reading the last sentence: "I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me." This sentence has acquired a very special secret meaning for me over the last couple of months, that I will explain to Heidi in a few days. After reading the Apostle lesson, I walked back proudly to the choir and beamed at Dina. "She must know what this is all about," I thought to myself. "Did you hear, Dina? God has shown me the favor of allowing me to read Galatians in front of the whole congregation!" Dina answered: "You forgot to use the mike, you dingbat! Nobody could understand what the h*ll you were mumbling!" Such is the lot of a Prophet. Some people do not quite appreciate the importance of our Work. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #353 ********************************