From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #352 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, September 20 2003 Volume 12 : Number 352 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Cash show ["Rex.Broome" ] Due for a comeback? [Eb ] a small gnatmaniax - the Decembrists (30% Robyn content) ["Natalie Jane" ] Re: a small gnatmaniax - the Decembrists (30% Robyn content) [Eb ] dead bands rock, dead bands roll, dead bands stole my baby [Miles Goosens] maybe just for Natalie (Jay Farrar live report) [Miles Goosens ] Re: dead bands rock, dead bands roll, dead bands stole my baby [Jeffrey w] Re: Sarah [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Robyn: 0, B&S: 1 ["FS Thomas" ] RE: Sarah ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: a small gnatmaniax - the Decembrists (30% Robyn content) [Jeffrey wit] Re: Due for a comeback? [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: SF in TO [Capuchin ] Re: Due for a comeback? [Jeff Dwarf ] a Kinks reunion [Jill Brand ] RE: SF in TO ["Brian Huddell" ] Whoa, Canada.... [Jeff Dwarf ] Whoa, Canada.... [Jeff Dwarf ] re: Whoa, Canada [Dolph Chaney ] Re: Whoa, Canada [steve ] Flame Canada [Eb ] Re: Flame Canada [Aaron Mandel ] Re: Flame Nelly [Tom Clark ] Bloody good band name, an' all [crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 12:12:14 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Cash show Hey y'all... Someone... and please forgive me for not remembering who you were... had mentioned having a copy of the Johnny Cash show at Rocky Gap, MD. Could that someone jog my memory? I really would quite like to get ahold of that... Thanks... Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 11:59:59 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Due for a comeback? Whatever happened to organ grinders? Respectfully, Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 12:10:53 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: a small gnatmaniax - the Decembrists (30% Robyn content) Local up-and-comers the Decembrists were doing an in-store at a record store downtown, to support their new album on Kill Rock Stars. Actually, it was just one Decembrist, Colin Meloy, whom some of you might remember as the guy who organized that big Robyn tribute a few years ago, where Viv and I performed. It was just him and an acoustic 12-string which may be the most beautiful-sounding instrument ever made. He had to stop and tune it a lot, though. I'll get this bit over with early - he's also a very, very good-looking guy. I'd heard that the Decembrists sound like Neutral Milk Hotel and I can definitely understand that comparison. Meloy has a slightly nasally voice which takes the same twists and turns that Jeff Mangum's voice does, and there are some musical similarities as well, but he definitely has his own sound. His lyrics tend towards the polysyllabic and are impressionistic and rather surreal, as befits a Robyn fan. I was tickled when he mentioned the Multnomah County Library in one song (that's the Portland library). I definitely would like to hear him with a full band and I plan on getting a Decembrists record as soon as I can spare the funds. Afterwards, I gave him the customary Thoth - it took him a minute to figure out what it was, and then he cried, "Oh, it's a Robyn Hitchcock thing!" He remembered me from the Robyn tribute, which was nice. I told him Robyn was playing here on November 12th and he lamented that he would be on tour. While waiting to talk to him, I saw a timid girl being nudged forward by her boyfriend (or whoever) - she ended up giving Meloy a hug. Awww. Anyway, n. p.s. On another subject, I bought a Geraldine Fibbers record ("the orange one" as Carla Bozulich called it) and I love it - any other recommendations as regards their other stuff would be welcome. _________________________________________________________________ Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 12:16:45 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: a small gnatmaniax - the Decembrists (30% Robyn content) >p.s. On another subject, I bought a Geraldine Fibbers record ("the >orange one" as Carla Bozulich called it) and I love it - any other >recommendations as regards their other stuff would be welcome. Get the dark blue one. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 12:44:24 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Kids these days Eb: >>No "kids" would show up at a VU show. They would have come to a >>Clash show. I think that's what I decided in the end. Although the Strokes got a fair amount of airplay, and the Strokes: VU as Rancid: Clash, so there may be more kids who are into the Velvets than you'd think. Or there might not be. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 14:21:54 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: dead bands rock, dead bands roll, dead bands stole my baby Rex: >Again, overall sales figures would help. How much does the Clash catalog-- >say, London Calling-- sell yearly as opposed to, say, Bollocks, the >Ramones's debut, Marquee Moon, Horses, Singles Going Steady, Damned Damned >Damned, Pink Flag, etc.? My guess would be: slightly more, a fair amount >more, way more, way more, way the hell more, fucking boatloads more, and >nobody under 27 even knows what that is, respectively. I wouldn't put money on that last one (Wire). While it seemed like the crowds at the 2000 Wire shows were mostly greybeards, the crowds at the 2002 and 2003 shows (based on my own observations at the Chicago 2002 gig and reports from idealcopy listfolk) were evenly split between the over-thirty and under-thirty. I don't know if the READ AND BURN series has been getting them a new audience, or someone popular with the young'uns has been touting them (we're too far past Elastica's peak for that to be generating fans who wouldn't have come out in 2000, I'd think), or what, but the band and us Wire grognards were quite encouraged by this development. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 14:47:34 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: maybe just for Natalie (Jay Farrar live report) Melissa and I saw Jay Farrar with Canyon this week at the Belourt Theatre here in Nashville. Unlike Jay's infamous last Nashville appearance (the Loud-Fans on the list and Natalie will know what I'm talking about here), the only hollering people in attendance on this night were actually overzealous fans, thanks to this being in a theatre rather than a bar/nightclub. Anyway, opening act Canyon, who'd I'd never heard before, were quite good, though maybe a shade below the quality of similar bands I like a lot (Nadine, for instance -- everyone should hop right over to http://www.milesofmusic.com and get Nadine's new one, STRANGE SEASONS). Solid songs, echoes of Neil Young and Uncle Tupelo, etc. Canyon also served as the backing band for Jay's set, and despite my disappointment when I realized that the amazing Mark Spencer wasn't waiting in the wings to join the band, they did a very effective job. Jay opened the set with several just-Jay-'n'-his-geetar-'n'-harmonica songs from the generally disappointing new one, TERROIR BLUES, and in fact, the whole first half of the set was songs from the new album. Everything was done well, with and without Canyon, but this material IMO is just not as engaging as his other stuff, so I was sorta drifting a bit... ...until the second half of his set, which was all SEBASTOPOL stuff. While I find TERROIR BLUES to be a well-meaning snooze, SEBASTOPOL was IMO the best album Jay's done since the first Son Volt release, and a whole set of Uncle Tupelo songs would not have pleased me more than hearing these full band versions of SEBASTOPOL faves such as "Barstow," "Voodoo Candle," "Drain," and the stunning "Feedkill Chain." Like TERROIR BLUES and the "limited edition" (I still see these all the time, so how limited was it?) of SEBASTAPOL, there were brief noise and backwards tape interludes between songs. I could have lived without these, but it didn't detract any from the show, since the longest one couldn't have been more than 20 seconds. For the first encore, Jay came back solo/acoustic to do Son Volt's "Windfall" and "Tear-Stained Eye." Unlike Nataline's response to these songs at the July Farrar/Easton show she caught in Portland, I didn't think these made the previous songs "pale in comparison" (though of course these drew the biggest crowd response -- keep in mind that the crowd enthusiastically received the more recent material too), but showed how the best of SEBASTOPOL was on a par with these songs, which I'd be happy to agree are the best stuff Jay's written. Then (and I'd been spoiler-free, so this was *a complete surprise*) Jay and the Canyon guys came back out, strapped on the heavy-duty electric axes, and launched into... ..."Like a Hurricane." I don't know if he's been playing this every night, or if it was chosen in honor of Isabel's impending landfall, but I have never seen Jay Farrar rock like a mutha before this. It didn't sound like "Jay Farrar sings Neil Young" either. Jay whipped out a dead-on Neil Young vocal, and played amazing speaker-shredding leads just like Bernard Shakey himself. Having seen the real Neal and Crazy Horse play this live in St. Louis a month ago, it seemed like a perfect moment of cosmic synchronicity to me and Melissa. We walked out of the Belcourt with idiot grins on our faces, feeling very connected to the music, pleased to be alive, and glad we'd made it out of the house to see the show. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 13:11:39 -0700 From: Nick Subject: Re: Home recording software Hey Glen, Groove Puppy wrote: > I'm PC (as ever ;) ) but here's my 2c. Yeah, me too ...but I'd go Linux if I could. :) (...or Solaris!!! ;) )) > > 1) Which recording software would you recommend for > > someone just starting out who wants to make "decent" > > sounding recordings? > > I use CuBase. Have CakeWalk but haven't tried it. > Only person I know who tried both preferred CuBase. I'm also a long standing Cubase user (and boy are my legs getting tired!). I started out *many* years ago on the Atari (!!!), and I now run the latest Cubase SX. I got here by successive upgrades - but if I were to just go out and buy it now it'd be several $100's. "Cubasis" is the entry version (~$50 I think) - but still has all the main features, and the same Cubase UI. If you want to check it out there is even a FREE version which you can download from the web (it's limited, of course, but you'll get the idea of what it's like to use it) Cubase is developed on the Mac platform BTW. I've tried Cakewalk (I loaded it because someone sent me a song in their proprietary format) and hated it. Aweful interface. I've also tried ProTools LE (the free version). Threw it away. Nuff Said. > You also need to consider effects plug-ins (reverb at > least) Cubase comes with a slew of decent plug-ins, but there are LOADS of free ones out there! ....+ I've downloaded most of them. :) > , editors (I use Sound Forge) I use Cool Edit Pro (now called Adobe Audition) > I find the secret of my realistic drum sound is > the samples I use and not so much the sequencer. I use Cubase VST Drum Sessions - made from real samples using ReCycle. The best I've found. > > 2) Hard drive: Internal IDE, internal SCSI, external > > SCSI or Firewire? > > I'm told IDE is pretty much as fast as SCSI these > days. The main thing with HD is spin speed. The rate > at which you can drag files simultaneously off the > drive will limit your number of tracks. (I can push > 10 with a 5400 rpm drive.) Agreed! 7200rpm IDE is common now, interfaces are fast - current prices are about $1 per gig and 100GB+ drives are common and cheap. (I just got a Maxtor 120GB (7200RPM+8MB buffer) for ~$80 after rebate - on sale at Fry's!) Separate system and data drives is the way to go. > > 3) Which sound cards would you recommend? There are some way cool USB and/or firewire modules out there now - try to find one with decent mic pre's. Both Tascam and M Audio have a sub-$200 box. THe M-Audio box has two mic-pre's and is totally USB powered ~$150, but I'd go for the the Tascam. It's a little more (~$200) but includes both Cubasis and Gigastudio (sampler) - it's fully Mac compatible and the mic-pre's are switchable to guitar level inputs: M-Audio: http://tinyurl.com/nzfs *Tascam: http://tinyurl.com/nzfh Let me know what you decide to do! ~Nick - -- Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -Pablo Picasso ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 17:20:41 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: dead bands rock, dead bands roll, dead bands stole my baby Quoting Miles Goosens : > >nobody under 27 even knows what that is, respectively. > > I wouldn't put money on that last one (Wire). While it seemed like the > crowds at the 2000 Wire shows were mostly greybeards, the crowds at the > 2002 and 2003 shows (based on my own observations at the Chicago 2002 gig > and reports from idealcopy listfolk) were evenly split between the > over-thirty and under-thirty. I don't know if the READ AND BURN series > has been getting them a new audience, or someone popular with the > young'uns has been touting them (we're too far past Elastica's peak for > that to be generating fans who wouldn't have come out in 2000, I'd > think), or what, but the band and us Wire grognards were quite encouraged > by this development. Nice to have you back, btw, Miles! Anyway - it probably helps that Wire Mk. 3 rocks impossibly harder than any bunch of guys in their 50s have a right to be expected to - it's rather laughable what some of those folks half their age think being loud and aggressive is. Not to mention that Wire does that, impeccably, while still being smart, even melodic. I think it's rejuvenated them, too: I saw a recent picture of the band, and I swear they look five years younger now than they did two or three years ago. I nearly blew my eardrums out last week, because I *simply had to* keep turning up the volume on _Send_ while it was playing in the car. Fortunately, I remembered to turn the volume back down before I got home: it's the car Rose drives to work, and trust me, you would hear her scream all the way where *you* live if suddenly Colin Newman were shouting in her ear at 7:30 in the morning before she's had her coffee. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: we make everything you need, and you need everything we make ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 11:40:24 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Sarah >>>One Sarah (pron. to rhyme with fairer, i.e., the usual way) > >Ah ha. There would normally be an "r" pronounced at the end? Not over >here... and I would've guessed you'd only get the "r" if the next word began >with a vowel (which seems to be the general British English rule for one >word which ends with a vowel coming before another which begins with one). >I have so much to learn... don't be silly. You don't pronounce the r at the end of "fairer". It rhymes with "Sarah"! Um... Sarah's pronounced like in the Fleetwood Mac song "Sara" James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 20:17:36 -0400 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: Robyn: 0, B&S: 1 In case anyone's interested, Belle & Sebastian released their US tour schedule. No Isobel, but a full band nonetheless: > Sun-Oct-26 Atlanta, GA Tabernacle > Mon-Oct-27 Durham, NC Carolina Theatre > Tue-Oct-28 Washington, DC 930 Club - Tickets onsale *now* at > http://www.tickets.com/browseother.cgi?minpid=5232466 > Thu-Oct-30 Chicago, IL Congress Theatre > Sun-Nov-02 Austin, TX The Backyard > Tue-Nov-04 Lawrence, KS Liberty Hall > Wed-Nov-05 St. Louis, MO The Pageant > Thu-Nov-06 Columbus, OH Mershon Auditorium > Fri-Nov-07 Detroit, MI State Theatre > Sat-Nov-08 Toronto, ON Massey Hall > Mon-Nov-10 New York, NY Town Hall > Tue-Nov-11 New York, NY Town Hall > Wed-Nov-12 Northampton, MA Calvin Theatre > Thu-Nov-13 Boston, MA Orpheum Theatre > Fri-Nov-14 Philadelphia, PA Tower Theatre - -ferris. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 17:40:24 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: RE: Sarah James: >>don't be silly. You don't pronounce the r at the end of "fairer". It rhymes >>with "Sarah"! Um... Sarah's pronounced like in the Fleetwood Mac song >>"Sara" Oh my. This is a classic example of what they call "crosstalk", isn't it? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 20:09:32 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: a small gnatmaniax - the Decembrists (30% Robyn content) Quoting Natalie Jane : > I plan on getting a > Decembrists record as soon as I can spare the funds. Or, you can go to www.emusic.com and download _Castaways and Cutouts_ and the 5-song EP as part of your free trial - after that it's $10/mo. ..Jeff, who still hasn't received a discount from eMusic for promoting it, dammit J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: sex, drugs, revolt, Eskimos, atheism ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 21:34:24 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Due for a comeback? Quoting Eb : > Whatever happened to organ grinders? You mean no one's made the obvious joke yet? ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb :: --Batman np: DIY - Anarchy in the UK: UK Punk (1976-77) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 19:35:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: SF in TO On Fri, 19 Sep 2003, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Can I just say I was in the same room as Steven Page last night? He's a > member of the wind co-op of which I'm a director. > > I suspect I might like BNL, since I like TMBG. Any recommendations? I really like TMBG, but I find BNL just too sickly sappy and faux soulful. They want to be TMBG and Squeeze or something (and, if you ask me, TMBG out-Squeezed Squeeze with Pet Name) and, um, aren't. I'm sitting here trying to express a qualitative difference in certain things that I see all the time, but can't express. Canadian music is almost totally and consistently of this one quality for which I have no name. It's a sort of direct-to-video, carob-filled, decaffeinated, Big Fun, don't-think-about-it-too-much kind of quality. I don't have a word for it, but pretty much all Canadian music falls into that category... along with the Amiga, Avon products, Washington state, Jay Leno, and Tour Easy recumbents. Anyway, I'm going to descend back into tech hell. I really wanted out of this shit. See y'all later. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 20:14:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Due for a comeback? Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > Quoting Eb : > > > Whatever happened to organ grinders? > > You mean no one's made the obvious joke yet? I don't know, but one of my housemates did buy liverwurst, so I assume they are still in usage? Or were you thinking of something masturbation related? ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 23:34:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: a Kinks reunion If there were a Kinks reunion on the east coast, I think I would probably know everyone there, and if I didn't, I would at least have heard of them. It isn't popular in the world of the Kinks to speak of them as if they were dead or to say that it perhaps wouldn't be pure genius for them to get back together, but I think I would like my legendary Kinks moments to loom large in my memory rather than to see which Davies brother had done a better hair-coloring job (Dave's pretty good at it, though). If they got back together, I'd be there in a flash (no pun intended), but if they made it a Lola sing-along, I'd throw up. Recently, I've been listening to This Is Where I Belong: the Songs of Ray Davies, and I've been enjoying other people's versions of Ray's songs, especially because a number of the ones chosen are relatively obscure. Thanks to anyone who responded to my Cul de Sac question. Glenn Jones is a friend of mine, and I was wondering if anyone outside of Boston had a clue as to who they are. Apparently, someone in Zagreb bootlegged one of their albums, so when they went there last winter, they were mobbed (I think it was Zagreb). Jill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 23:51:31 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: SF in TO > > I suspect I might like BNL, since I like TMBG. Any recommendations? Capuchin: > Canadian music is > almost totally and consistently of this one quality for which I have no > name. It's a sort of direct-to-video, carob-filled, decaffeinated, Big > Fun, don't-think-about-it-too-much kind of quality. Yes, Jeme, it's actually attributable to the shape of the Canadian brain, which is kind of squeezed-in at the middle by the omnipresent toque. Turns out that the middle-part of the brain is where all the good music comes from (not to get too technical). Don't get me started on the French brain -- berets or something. Anyway, someone else can do the list of Canadian Acts That Don't Suck, please. +brian in New Orleans ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 22:32:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Whoa, Canada.... > someone else can do the list of Canadian Acts > That Don't Suck, please. Neil Young This has concluded the list of Canadian Acts That Don't Suck. Please remember to tip your waitresses. ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 22:32:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Whoa, Canada.... > someone else can do the list of Canadian Acts > That Don't Suck, please. Neil Young This has concluded the list of Canadian Acts That Don't Suck. Please remember to tip your waitresses. ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 10:31:48 -0500 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: re: Whoa, Canada Jeff's post listing only Neil Young was funny... but... WRONG. Joni Mitchell, Bruce Cockburn, and Sloan all come to mind right away. Then, there's my very favorite Canadian band -- The Odds. This is very smart 2-guitar pop, lacking what I call "The Big Earnestness" that saddlebags other Canadian bands. The sad-for-them-but-fortuitous-for-you state of affairs is that each of their 4 albums can be had in cutout bins for Dirt Effing Cheap. Go get GOOD WEIRD FEELING for less than a McDonald's value meal (hell, at half.com each of the 4 is 75 cents!!) and thank me later. - -- dolph, who isn't Canadian but sometimes calls people "hosers" if they're being... hosers. p.s.: "and what about BTO, Loverboy and Glass Tiger?" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 10:48:10 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Whoa, Canada On Saturday, September 20, 2003, at 10:31 AM, Dolph Chaney wrote: > Jeff's post listing only Neil Young was funny... but... WRONG. Joni > Mitchell, Bruce Cockburn, and Sloan all come to mind right away. Jane Siberry. - - Steve __________ "We're not attacking Islam, but Islam has attacked us. The God of Islam is not the same God," the Rev. Franklin Graham, who spoke at President Bush's inauguration, said recently. "He's not the son of God of the Christian or Judeo-Christian faith. It's a different God, and I believe it is a very evil and wicked religion." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 08:51:04 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Flame Canada >Jeff's post listing only Neil Young was funny... but... WRONG. Joni >Mitchell, Bruce Cockburn, and Sloan all come to mind right away. Young and Mitchell are the two obvious Hall of Famers from Canada, but don't forget that they had to *leave* Canada to get anything good going. ;) (Maybe Rush could have been something interesting, if they had left too!) But let's not forget Cowboy Junkies, Jane Siberry, Robbie Robertson, the Guess Who, Mary Margaret O'Hara, Nelly Furtado, Skip Spence, Sarah McLachlan, Nomeansno, Jale and the new whiz-kids Hot Hot Heat. Though I'm sure some of you *would* like to forget a few of those names. ;) Incidentally, my wiiiiiildly unpopular opinion that Furtado is a "legit" talent gets some notable support from news of her upcoming album Folklore, which -- rather than picking up cameos from trendy top-40 rappers and the like -- includes guest help from people like Caetano Veloso, Bela Fleck and the Kronos Quartet. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 12:00:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Flame Canada On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Eb wrote: > But let's not forget Cowboy Junkies, Jane Siberry, Robbie Robertson, the > Guess Who, Mary Margaret O'Hara, Nelly Furtado, Skip Spence, Sarah > McLachlan, Nomeansno, Jale and the new whiz-kids Hot Hot Heat. Though > I'm sure some of you *would* like to forget a few of those names. ;) I'll give you Nomeansno (minus the last few albums) and Hot Hot Heat, but Jale? They sound kind of nice, but I don't know anyone who's been able to remember anything about any of their songs half an hour after hearing them. Though the same indiepop scene gave us Eric's Trip and Julie Doiron. I can't remember which Doiron record I really like, but there is one. Too bad Hot Hot Heat is going down the road of $6 "EPs" with two new songs on them. If they've only got the one brilliant album in them, okay, that's life, but let's not drag it out. And if they've got more, well, it's been a year already; time for another album! a ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 09:36:53 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Flame Nelly on 9/20/03 8:51 AM, Eb at ElBroome@earthlink.net wrote: > Incidentally, my wiiiiiildly unpopular opinion that Furtado is a > "legit" talent gets some notable support from news of her upcoming > album Folklore, which -- rather than picking up cameos from trendy > top-40 rappers and the like -- includes guest help from people like > Caetano Veloso, Bela Fleck and the Kronos Quartet. Don't know Veloso, but with appearances by Bela Fleck and the Kronos Quartet, it's sure to be...a...um...oh hell I'm falling asleep just writing about it - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 21:52:59 +0100 (BST) From: crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com Subject: Bloody good band name, an' all >Didn't the SCM's also do a dumb video for "Jesus Chrysler Drives >a Dodge"? I >have the SCM cd that has that one, probably haven't played it in >a dozen years. I play my S*B*M records/CD burns pretty regularly. 2nd best live band of the '80s (behind the Cramps) IMHO, and the albums stand up pretty well, novelties nowithstanding. Robyn knew/knew of Bill Carter and the boys. Om sounds v. SBM to me. Crowbar Joe ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #352 ********************************