From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #351 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, September 19 2003 Volume 12 : Number 351 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: Dead Bands ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Dead Bands [Eric Loehr ] Re: Dead Bands [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Dead Bands ["Brian" ] Robyn Wants To Know [Tom Clark ] New Bowie ["Brian" ] The Clash that Could Have Been ["Rex.Broome" ] On second thought... ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: The Clash that Could Have Been [Eb ] Re: reunions [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: reunions [Jeff Dwarf ] re: your mail [gshell@metronet.com] Re: ra: roo: row row row your boat [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: fegmaniax-digest V12 #350 [Groove Puppy ] Home recording software [glen (') ] anagrams [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] reap [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: New Bowie ["Sumiko Keay" ] robyn in athens [ein kleines kinnemuzik ] Re: robyn in athens [Carrie Galbraith ] Bisbort quotes the man [Dmitry Gokhman ] Re: robyn in athens [ein kleines kinnemuzik ] Bisbort quotes the man [Dmitry Gokhman ] Re: Home recording software [Groove Puppy ] Bison-sized 'Guinea-zilla' roamed South America ["Stewart C. Russell" ] SF in TO ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Home recording software (for Mac) [steve ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 17:02:53 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Dead Bands >>Even without John, I would have thought a >>Paul-George-Ringo-with-Julian-and/or-Sean (or someone else) >>"Beatles" reunion would still be above those other three. >>Just Paul and Ringo wouldn't I don't think, otherwise I >>think those three are pretty dead on though I'm not sure >>The Clash ever would have been that lucrative, at least in >>the US. Maybe (an obviously Bonham-less) Zeppelin. Or >>Cream. Eb came back with: >You're talking about some reunions which aren't really reunions. And >Cream? No way. I suspect Cream would draw less fans than plain ol' >Clapton, at this point. Too bad Jim Gordon is in jail for life and Carl Radle is dead, because I would much rather see a Derek and the Dominoes reunion than Cream. A interesting side note, Duane Allman did do a few live gigs with the Dominoes in the fall of 1970. Those gigs would make my "all time gig list to attend" if they ever can get that time machine created. John Coltrane at the Village Vanguard, 11-1-61 thru 11-4-61 would also make my list. Michael NP Elvis Costello My Aim Is True ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 17:10:02 -0400 From: Eric Loehr Subject: Re: Dead Bands At 01:19 PM 9/18/2003 -0700, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > >--- Eric Loehr wrote: >> Jeff, you did hear that George died almost 2 years ago, >> right? It was in a couple of papers.... ;-} > >You do know how to recognize PAST TENSES, don't you? Thus >my using such phrases as "would have" and later saying that >"just Paul and Ringo" wouldn't have the same effect. Well, yeah, but Eb's original message said that he and Lawndart were thinking about this about a year ago, which was about a year after GH died, and that's where my attempted but sadly failed joke started....never mind. > >:) > >> Eric "Hey! What about a Kinks reunion?" > >Same as The Clash in that it wouldn't attract as much in >the US as elsewhere within the English language world. I agree that a Kinks reunion wouldn't draw all that many, and that a Clash reunion would have (past tense!) drawn more than the Kinks. I wasn't thinking that it would be a BIG reunion, just one that I'd like to see. Eric "OK, how about a Cleaners from Venus Reunion?" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:18:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Dead Bands Eb wrote: > >The Police would probably be a pretty damn lucrative > >reunion tour. > > Oh yeah! Temporarily forgot about them. That was another > name which was top priority in the Lawndart talks. Yeah, > the Police's reunion certainly would be bigger than the > Clash's. Though I'm not really sure where the Police > would fall, within S&G, GNR and R-VH. Me neither. S&G have the benefit of appealing to a broader demographical basis, especially generationally. Axl and Roth are both such freak show attractions it would both help and hurt those tours -- Roth looked like Liza Minelli's crackhead little brother on the intro to the Conan Anniversary special Sunday. Sting's solo career would probably attract a lot of soccer moms who only have The Police Greatest Hits along with people hoping to see Sting forced to actually rock by being attatched to Copeland and Summers. If push comes to shove, I'd probably say Police, S&G, R-VH, then GNR since the Police and S&G can both draw a serious number of baby boomers that Van Halen and GNR can't, but any order is more than plausible. ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 13:33:32 -0800 From: "Brian" Subject: Re: Dead Bands Bands I'd like to see reunite and perform: The Monochrome Set The Soft Boys (again!) and the Egyptians for that matter... Slowdive Fingerprintz - -- Brian nightshadecat@mailbolt.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:40:27 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Robyn Wants To Know Apologies for the lame answers... - -tc Where Do You Go When You Die? Nowhere If you really serve the devil, is it all god's plan? Nope Where Are The Prawns? Down by the sea. Duh! Was it worth the baby's cry? Absolutely. How Do You Work This Thing? I'm still learning What goes on inside of you? Lot's of digestion and lust. Do Policemen Sing? Yes, when they're in the mood. Could you take it right between your eyes? Who says I haven't already? Ain't you never seen a disembodied soul before? Can't say I would recognize one. What do you know about the sky? It's blue and planes fly in it. Do you still live on Semaphore Street? You wouldn't understand my answer. How do you know when you've gone too far? You can never go too far. Have we got any of those sticky things left? Mmmmm - sticky things... Who's been feeding tomatoes to the cat? I've never seen a vegetarian cat! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 13:41:32 -0800 From: "Brian" Subject: New Bowie Any thoughts on the new David Bowie album Reality? I just got it yesterday and haven't really listened to it more than once. Interesting version of Jonathon Richman's Pablo Picasso and a cool remake of Rebel Rebel on the bonus disc. Nuppy - -- Brian nightshadecat@mailbolt.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 15:07:21 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: The Clash that Could Have Been James: >>One Sarah (pron. to rhyme with fairer, i.e., the usual way) Ah ha. There would normally be an "r" pronounced at the end? Not over here... and I would've guessed you'd only get the "r" if the next word began with a vowel (which seems to be the general British English rule for one word which ends with a vowel coming before another which begins with one). I have so much to learn... >>> Eric "Hey! What about a Kinks reunion?" I wasn't sure they were officially broken up, really. Assuming that just Ray & Dave = Kinks. But I should've included them under the "only a new album will prove it" column. Ken: >>What about the original Modern Lovers? Or Blind Faith? The original Pink >>Floyd? Or even the original Genesis? Richman has had nominal "Modern Lovers" throughout the years. Floyd... too weird considering they've cycled through three "leaders". I seem to recall that the original Genesis *did* play together recently to finish a live track from a festival where the tape ran out for a boxed set of some kind... can the proggies help here? I was really going for "nominal" or "self-proclaimed" reunions, though... attempts to trade on the name regardless of original members present. I count the Chilton/Stephenson/Posies version of Big Star, f'rinstance, and the Sidless Pistols. Although prolly not "The Byrds" with Michael Clarke and some other guys. Wasn't even thinking about what the Clash reunion would've done business-wise... but lest we forget, the VU reunion OPENED for U2. Which doesn't bode well. But one should factor in the reality that the Clash means something to the, what, fourth generation punk kids of today in a way that some of the punk bands that (speaking loosely) "we" remember, by way of Rancid, Green Day et. al. aping them more than most of rest of the Class of '77 (approx). So I dunno. Again, overall sales figures would help. How much does the Clash catalog-- say, London Calling-- sell yearly as opposed to, say, Bollocks, the Ramones's debut, Marquee Moon, Horses, Singles Going Steady, Damned Damned Damned, Pink Flag, etc.? My guess would be: slightly more, a fair amount more, way more, way more, way the hell more, fucking boatloads more, and nobody under 27 even knows what that is, respectively. - -Rex - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:37:40 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Dead Wants At 01:14 PM 9/18/2003 -0700, Eb wrote: >RUFUS: RUFUS WAINWRIGHT will perform songs from his new album, WANT ONE, >at two special in-store performances, one in New York and one in L.A.: >Sept. 23, Barnes & Noble @ Chelsea, 675 6th Ave. at 22nd St., 7:00 p.m. >Sept. 28, Borders @ Westwood, 1360 Westwood Blvd., 5:00 p.m. > >Mark your calendars for Rufus performing WANT ONE's "I Don't Know What It >Is" on Late Night With David Letterman on Oct. 6. > >Eb (didn't the album used to be called simply "Want"?) It was, when Wainwright was going to release a double album. But he, and/or the record company bozos, decided to split the material into two separate but related releases. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 15:21:01 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: On second thought... Me say: >>Again, overall sales figures would help. How much does the Clash catalog-- >>say, London Calling-- sell yearly as opposed to, say, Bollocks, (etc.) Okay, scratch London Calling and make it the Clash's debut album. I started writing that list before I realized almost all the records were going to be from '77 itself. The thinking was that London Calling probably has the highest sales overall*, and the other records I listed hold similar spot in their respective artists' catalogs. But I guess we really don't know that either. Also I was talking US sales since what we mostly seem to have been mulling over was a Clash reunion touring in the US. - -Rex *Unless it's Combat Rock, which probably was originally the best-seller based on the hit singles. I'm assuming that since then London Calling has made up the difference based on universal praise and its influence on Rancid et. al. but my argument is rapidly going all ouroboros on me. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 15:06:21 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: The Clash that Could Have Been >Wasn't even thinking about what the Clash reunion would've done >business-wise... but lest we forget, the VU reunion OPENED for U2. Which >doesn't bode well. Come on! The Clash were FAR bigger than the Velvet Underground. Does VU even have a Gold album? I don't think so..... No "kids" would show up at a VU show. They would have come to a Clash show. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 10:23:52 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: reunions >Eb wrote: >> A year-ish ago, Lawndart and I were casually debating >> what the most lucrative reunion tours might be, which >> weren't already underway. We decided that the three >> possible reunions which ruled above all others would be >> the original Guns N Roses, Diamond Dave's Van Halen and >> Simon & Garfunkel. Slightly beneath those three was the >> Clash. Well, the Clash reunion isn't possible anymore, >> but S&G have signed up..... > >Even without John, I would have thought a >Paul-George-Ringo-with-Julian-and/or-Sean (or someone else) >"Beatles" reunion would still be above those other three. >Just Paul and Ringo wouldn't I don't think, otherwise I >think those three are pretty dead on though I'm not sure >The Clash ever would have been that lucrative, at least in >the US. Maybe (an obviously Bonham-less) Zeppelin. Or >Cream. in Europe, an Abba reunion would be very lucrative, I suspect. Ain't gonna happen though, I wouldn't think. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 15:29:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: reunions James Dignan wrote: > in Europe, an Abba reunion would be very lucrative, I > suspect. Ain't gonna happen though, I wouldn't think. After the success of _Mamma Mia_ over here, an ABBA reunion would probably do fairly well in the US too. ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 15:10:09 -0500 (CDT) From: gshell@metronet.com Subject: re: your mail On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 gshell@metronet.com wrote: > i know you've all been waiting with baited breath. Sorry for the delay, > i have been having email woes. that should be bated not baited. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 10:36:08 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: ra: roo: row row row your boat >Do they have the story of the moron who -- thinking he was >flying to Auckland -- ends up on the plane to Oakland down >there every once in a while too (except here, they think >they are going to Oakland and end up on the plane to >Auckland)? oh yeah. Although you'd have to have a pretty strong accent to mistake it. There's also the rumour that the northern North Island was first sighted by Europeans when Abel Tasman heard, from the crowsnest of his ship, the cry of wee Angus McPherson: "Och! Land!" In personal news, my old Powermac fiinally died yesterday (or got to the point where I couldn't stand using it anymore, anyway). I now have a brand new EMac (and a brand new overdraft). James PS - those of you in the SE US - I hope you're keeping safe from the storm. James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 16:31:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Groove Puppy Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V12 #350 Eb sed > LONDON - A new version of The Beatles' album "Let It > Be" will be released in November, the group's > company Apple Corps announced Thursday. Wow, that's great news. Oh wait, the Beatles. Never mind. ;) (H) ===== CHUCKHOLE All that great punk rock taste with only half the calories. http://clix.to/chuckhole http://www.mp3.com/chuckhole __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 17:51:15 -0700 From: glen (') Subject: Home recording software Hey all, I have managed to acquire a Macintosh G3 (400mHz, Blue model) and would like to set it up as a home recording system. I plan to max out the RAM, get a bigger hard drive and a better sound card. I've never used anything but tape-based systems for recording, so this is a bit new for me. I have a few questions: 1) Which recording software would you recommend for someone just starting out who wants to make "decent" sounding recordings? 2) Hard drive: Internal IDE, internal SCSI, external SCSI or Firewire? 3) Which sound cards would you recommend? I have less than $500 bucks to spend on it at this point, so I may have to build this up piece by piece until my financial windfall comes *chuckle, snort, guffaw*. Thanks in advance for any advice, suggestions, caveats. - -- Cheers! - -g- "Work is the curse of the drinking class." - --Oscar Wilde ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 13:02:00 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: anagrams at some point, in the recent 'know thyself' threads, someone asked for best anagrams of a full name. Having a long full name (two middle names) I said something liker "err.... I'll get back to you on that". I've got back to you. One or two of these seem apt: Torment a jeering drabness. Bad, stringent, serene major. Grim jester and neater snob. Darn! jeering beast monster. Semen drains better jargon. Bent, arresting, dense major. Sneering jester to drab man. Jeer brain-rot madness gent. Bonnier, mad, strange jester. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 22:56:33 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: reap Slim Dusty James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 09:10:00 -0500 From: "Sumiko Keay" Subject: Re: New Bowie I haven't heard it -- but I saw an ad for it on tv-- very fun. A houseful of Bowies dressed in all the different Bowie hair and fashion phases. Sumi >>> "Brian" 09/18/03 04:41PM >>> Any thoughts on the new David Bowie album Reality? I just got it yesterday and haven't really listened to it more than once. Interesting version of Jonathon Richman's Pablo Picasso and a cool remake of Rebel Rebel on the bonus disc. Nuppy - -- Brian nightshadecat@mailbolt.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 10:29:00 -0400 From: ein kleines kinnemuzik Subject: robyn in athens just heard that the 40 watt mailing list says that robyn will be be playing there on october 9th (thanks laird!). nothing's on their website yet, of course. my spies also passed on a rumor than robyn will be at the morton theatre on the 8th. this matches nicely with the venue-tba date which is listed on robynhithcock.com. more details as we get 'em... woj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 16:37:24 +0200 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: robyn in athens Venerdl, 19 set 2003, alle 16:29 Europe/Rome, ein kleines kinnemuzik ha scritto: > just heard that the 40 watt mailing list says that robyn will be be > playing there on october 9th (thanks laird!). nothing's on their > website yet, of course. > > my spies also passed on a rumor than robyn will be at the morton > theatre on the 8th. this matches nicely with the venue-tba date which > is listed on robynhithcock.com. > > more details as we get 'em... > > woj Athens Greece? Hey, I could probably make that one! ;-) You guys (and the little earthquake we had the other night) are making me real homesick... - - ethyl ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 08:45:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Dmitry Gokhman Subject: Bisbort quotes the man http://www.hartfordadvocate.com/gbase/News/content.html?oid=oid:33686 - --- ein kleines kinnemuzik wrote: > just heard that the 40 watt mailing list says that > robyn will be be > playing there on october 9th (thanks laird!). > nothing's on their > website yet, of course. > > my spies also passed on a rumor than robyn will be > at the morton > theatre on the 8th. this matches nicely with the > venue-tba date which > is listed on robynhithcock.com. > > more details as we get 'em... > > woj __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 11:48:31 -0400 From: ein kleines kinnemuzik Subject: Re: robyn in athens one time at band camp, ein kleines kinnemuzik (woj@smoe.org) said: >my spies also passed on a rumor than robyn will be at the morton >theatre on the 8th. this matches nicely with the venue-tba date which >is listed on robynhithcock.com. however, according to the theatre's website , there is already something going on that evening there: The Magical Nightingale & Journey to the Center of the Earth . the thystery mickens. +w ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 08:48:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Dmitry Gokhman Subject: Bisbort quotes the man Apologies for the previous email. Something weird happened with the computer (ok me, but I guess the connection between the two of us is strong). For the people who collect these things, Alan Bisbort in yesterday's column mentioned how "She was sinister ..." was an apt description of ..... Ann Coulter. - d http://www.hartfordadvocate.com/gbase/News/content.html?oid=oid:33686 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 11:30:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Groove Puppy Subject: Re: Home recording software > I have managed to acquire a Macintosh G3 (400mHz, > Blue model) and would > like to set it up as a home recording system. I plan > to max out the > RAM, get a bigger hard drive and a better sound > card. I'm PC (as ever ;) ) but here's my 2c. > 1) Which recording software would you recommend for > someone just starting out who wants to make "decent" > sounding recordings? I use CuBase. Have CakeWalk but haven't tried it. Only person I know who tried both preferred CuBase. You also need to consider effects plug-ins (reverb at least), editors (I use Sound Forge) and a drum sequencer (FruityLoops, but no Mac version). Like I said, I find the secret of my realistic drum sound is the samples I use and not so much the sequencer. > 2) Hard drive: Internal IDE, internal SCSI, external > SCSI or Firewire? I'm told IDE is pretty much as fast as SCSI these days. The main thing with HD is spin speed. The rate at which you can drag files simultaneously off the drive will limit your number of tracks. (I can push 10 with a 5400 rpm drive.) You also want a system drive and a data drive. I run all my recording on the system drive then backup to the data drive when I'm done. CuBase (or any multi tracker) will kick the shit out of the drive so plan for it to crash. I believe it's recommended to run the data off a drive seperate from the system for speed but just make sure you have your backup somewhere else. Then you need to do all the set up stuff (may be different for Mac) like setting DMA for drives, no screen savers, non-dynamic windows swap files, etc. > 3) Which sound cards would you recommend? I have a SoundBlaster Live. Not the greatest but pretty good and pretty cheap. No point going for top end stuff when you make the lo-fi stuff I churn out. If you really want low-noise you should consider a card with an external A/D unit to remove the computer noise but, like I say, consider how good the rest of your set up will be. A good sound card won't fix a noisy environment or cheap mic. I use a 200MHz Pentium which has no power, but you can play tricks with the effects, e.g. I pre-compress my bass guitar track in SoundForge so I don't need to run any compression in CuBase when I'm mixing. Oh yeah, and buy a PC! (H) ===== CHUCKHOLE All that great punk rock taste with only half the calories. http://clix.to/chuckhole http://www.mp3.com/chuckhole __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 14:43:18 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Bison-sized 'Guinea-zilla' roamed South America Makers of bad B-movies the world over have waited for this: Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 11:49:49 -0700 From: glen (') Subject: Re: Home recording software On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 11:30:15 -0700 (PDT), Groove Puppy wrote: > I'm PC (as ever ;) ) I won't hold it against you. > I use CuBase. Have CakeWalk but haven't tried it. > Only person I know who tried both preferred CuBase. CuBase seems to be the program all the books recommend. I may actually go that direction in the future, but for now, I think I'm going to start out with ProTools LE. > You also need to consider effects plug-ins (reverb at > least), editors (I use Sound Forge) and a drum > sequencer (FruityLoops, but no Mac version). Like I > said, I find the secret of my realistic drum sound is > the samples I use and not so much the sequencer. Excellent advice. Thanks. Mark Gloster has also recommended Pluggo. > I'm told IDE is pretty much as fast as SCSI these > days. The main thing with HD is spin speed. The rate > at which you can drag files simultaneously off the > drive will limit your number of tracks. (I can push > 10 with a 5400 rpm drive.) The stock drive in the G3 is SCSI. That will be my system drive. If there's not much difference in price between SCSI and Firewire, I think I'll go Firewire for the data drive. > > You also want a system drive and a data drive. I run > all my recording on the system drive then backup to > the data drive when I'm done. CuBase (or any multi > tracker) will kick the shit out of the drive so plan > for it to crash. I believe it's recommended to run > the data off a drive seperate from the system for > speed but just make sure you have your backup > somewhere else. Noted. > > Then you need to do all the set up stuff (may be > different for Mac) like setting DMA for drives, no > screen savers, non-dynamic windows swap files, etc. "It's Different for Macs" -- Joe Jackson, right? ;) > I have a SoundBlaster Live. Not the greatest but > pretty good and pretty cheap. No point going for top > end stuff when you make the lo-fi stuff I churn out. > If you really want low-noise you should consider a > card with an external A/D unit to remove the computer > noise but, like I say, consider how good the rest of > your set up will be. A good sound card won't fix a > noisy environment or cheap mic. Noisy environment is my biggest problem. You've seen where I live. I do plan to spend a bit of money on good mics, however. > I use a 200MHz Pentium which has no power, but you can > play tricks with the effects, e.g. I pre-compress my > bass guitar track in SoundForge so I don't need to run > any compression in CuBase when I'm mixing. The Mac is only 400 Mhz, but I'm gonna jack the RAM up all the way to 1 Gig. That should help a bit. > Oh yeah, and buy a PC! Yeah, that'll happen. As soon as the Detroit Tigers win the World Series. - -- Cheers! - -g- "In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments -- there are Consequences." - --R.G. Ingersoll ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 14:51:25 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: SF in TO Can I just say I was in the same room as Steven Page last night? He's a member of the wind co-op of which I'm a director. I suspect I might like BNL, since I like TMBG. Any recommendations? Stewart (actually, the real SF for me was to finally meet Paul Gipe, wind energy guru from Tehachapi.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 13:53:40 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Home recording software (for Mac) On Friday, September 19, 2003, at 01:30 PM, Groove Puppy wrote: > Oh yeah, and buy a PC! Ick! Glen could try this site - http://www.macmusic.org/home/?lang=EN - - Steve __________ If anyone has ever benefited from what Bush has called "the bigotry of soft expectations," it's George W. Bush himself. - Mark Crispin Miller ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #351 ********************************