From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #333 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, September 5 2003 Volume 12 : Number 333 Today's Subjects: ----------------- brief gnatmaniax (5% Robyn content) ["Natalie Jane" ] what makes a feg etc.? what keeps him from etc.ing? ["ross taylor" ] Tarot 1: Cards for Rex ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Yo, Gene, can't you deterermine us some better traits? ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: Yo, Gene, can't you deterermine us some better traits? ["Jason R. Tho] Re: Questioning the answers [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Yo, Gene, can't you deterermine us some better traits? [Tom Clark ] Re: What makes a feg? [Elizabeth Brion ] Re: Copping to having Morgen ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: This may excite some of you.... [gshell@metronet.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 10:30:46 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: brief gnatmaniax (5% Robyn content) Uggh... I think I'm wearing out everyone with my gargantuan show reviews, so I'll try to keep this short. (It helps that I've only had 4 hours of sleep.) REM/Wilco My first time seeing both bands, and my first time in a big amphitheater since going to Lollapalooza in the mid-90's. I was very excited to see Wilco, but they played an abbreviated set and seemed really tense and constrained. Still, they were pretty rockin'. Mostly songs from Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, nothing from Summerteeth. Blah. REM put on a great show, with a big glittery stage set, but it depressed me to realize that most of the songs I was digging were 15-20 years old. But they did start out with the song I most wanted to hear, "Finest Worksong," so I went away happy. Jane the Timeline Chick got backstage and had her picture taken with Michael Stipe (yay Jane!), then informed us of a "secret" after show party at a bar in NE Portland. We went there but only Scott McCaughey and Mike Mills showed up. Mike spent a lot of time playing Galaga. I did get to meet him, which was very very cool. Scott McCaughey was NOT wearing his omnipresent sunglasses - he actually has eyes! Amazing! He said the Minus 5 might be touring with Robyn in November *and* serving as his backing band. I don't like the Minus 5 much, but seeing Robyn and Peter Buck playing together would be ace. This hasn't been finalized, though. Wilco/Carla Bozulich Possibly one of the top ten shows I've ever seen. Much, much better than the night before with REM. Thanks again to Miles for encouraging me to go. Carla Bozulich (from the Geraldine Fibbers, yes?) has a beautiful alto voice and really good, almost goth-y country-ish songs, but spend a lot of time being flustered over flubbing chords, which kind of annoyed me. Wilco fuckin' rocked the house, with a long main set and two encores, and played my favorite song of theirs, "I'm Always in Love." Janet Weiss of Sleater-Kinney/Quasi fame joined them on additional percussion during several songs, which was awesome. Wilco are amazing musicians and really fun to watch, from Jeff Tweedy's weird "guitar faces" to drummer Glenn Kotche's prodigious drumming skills. I was very happy. Thanks to Jane and her boyfriend (who gave up his backstage pass to me), I got to distribute tinfoil sculptures to Tweedy, Kotche, and bassist John Stirratt, who said his tinfoil devil was "phenomenal." "You're the best tinfoil sculptor I've ever seen," he enthused. "How many have you seen?" I asked. "None," he admitted. Joanna Bolme was also there and actually did remember me. I didn't bother talking to Janet Weiss because she's so snitty. It was very cool, anyway. Anyway, we got back last night at about 4 in the morning and I'm tired. Sorry for busting so many 40's, but it was a really cool experience for me and I thought y'all would appreciate it. cheers, n. _________________________________________________________________ Fast, faster, fastest: Upgrade to Cable or DSL today! https://broadband.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:32:42 -0700 From: Sweet & Tender Hooligan Subject: RE: What makes a foley artist? > If I could pick any job, it would be either a brewer at a well-respected > microbrewery or a Foley Artist. Do you have experience as a Foley artist? I co-founded a production company last year, and we just completed principal photography on our first feature (www.jaquelinerose.com). We're heading into post-production now, and I've been dying to meet someone with a bit of Foley experience. = s&th hooligan@apostate.com Q. At least once a day, my phone rings, and I answer it, and the person on the other end - the person who called me - starts the conversation by asking: "Who is this?" Is that rude? A. It most certainly is, because this person is committing the grammatical "faux pas" of using a pre-emptive connubial pronoun in an infricative phrase. The proper wording is: "Whom is this?" Or, more formally: "Just exactly whom the heck is this to whom I am speaking to?" - Dave Barry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:31:54 -0500 (CDT) From: gshell@metronet.com Subject: Re: Or what about tarot cards with record label logos on them On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Rex.Broome wrote: > -Rex, who used to occasionally write Oblique Strategies-type stuff on those > little folded-paper things that girls in middle school made, the little > squares that looked like paper mouths that they'd open and close and pick a > corner with like a boy's name or some romantic advice on it.... err, does > anyone know what the hell I'm talking about? boys made them too. i just made one. someone ask me a question, any question. i have the answer. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:35:10 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: What makes a feg? A delightful subject! Work is dreadfully slow right now--even for a Friday--and I'm holding down the fort here in an empty office. There actually isn't so much fort holding as there is email reading and writing, and doing the odd bit of Googling. It's all well and good seeing as I'm sporting a hangover that may be on the verge of a residual drunk. - -ferris. - --- Beer: True to my bi-polar nature, it's either lager or Guinness for beer, and certainly none of that nasty hoppiness you find in a lot of the Beers Of The Moment. For the stiffer drinks, it's often gin (martini or tonic), though occasionally vodka. Scotches are reserved for special occasions, like waking up in the morning. Library: Is this a "visit" or "own" type of question? Prior to relocating I had a good stockpile of all sorts of media, but it's in storage now. Does living with a librarian get me partial credit? Glasses: Contacts/glasses. White Cane Certified without. Sterilized: Here's hopin'. Astrological Cuppa Catshit: Aquarius/Capricorn. Dead on the cusp. (A bitterly cold geng-zi morning in the month of ding-chou, Year of the Chicken...) Married to (Zodiac-wise): Living in blessed sin with an Aries. Ex-wife: Leo. Ethnic background: Cracker. Brit/Irish/Scottish (in that order) with an Italian at the bottom of the woodpile. As far back as I've gotten with any certainty was to a smithy in Peterborough, Northants back in the 1640s. Further on the subject: what makes one a hedgecrawler? Does it involve the actual crawling of hedges or is it a euphemism for something filthy? Religion: Raised Protestant, matured agnostic. Ill-Advised Facial Hair: Been known to dabble. Currently sporting Shatneresque sideburns. Best anagram for full name: Christ, my brayne hurts. "Rest from shit tacos"? "Match rooster fists"? Number of times dressed in drag: College a number of times. Maybe five? Least favorite food/food product: It's all about texture. Lima beans and chick peas are the cat's ass for me. Make some humus, though, and you've got something there. CA Gubernatorial Recall Candidate of Choice: "Cruz Bustaforty" practically caused a urinary disaster and actually motivated me to fill in the blanks. Aside from knowing that Davis should be pilloried just on principle, and that Arianna Huffington should just go away, I haven't given much thought to who should take his place. I do believe that Schwartzeneggar would prove a novel governor if nothing else. (Schwartzeneggar does score an extra six points for Hedonism Above and Beyond the Call for the Oui interview.) Last three Halloween costumes: None, Death, Death. Is it safe?: As long as it's not vibrating. Or generating heat. What if anything is written/depicted on you shirt/top right now?: "Where my bitches at?" Feg Doppelganger?: Forth guy from the left here : http://www.njaz.com/fegfotos/images/SB2k-nyc-globe.jpg (And yet another right hand to God(s) it's not me.) How long?: Stubbly at the moment, but known to grow up to ten inches (with natural curl!). Last thing you can remember drawing?: The other day I sketched a tin robot. It was rubbish, so I sent it back from whence it came. In your car, on the floor of front passenger seat right now?: Ants. Literally. I parked under the wrong tree the other day when going to lunch and came back to find my little TDI covered in strange colored ants. They're inside now and doing quite well, thank you. You gonna eat that?: If it's gristle I'm not. Favorite arthropod: I've gotten fascinated by palmetto bugs since moving south. Free-range lobsters are great, though. Have you ever been Knighted by a Government Official?: I politely declined. Number of records owned with medusae on cover: None that come to mind. When did you lose the umlaut?: It's still too painful to discuss. Is anything worn underneath the kilt: No sir. (And while my mother's father was a MacDonald, I'll refrain from quarter-pounder jokes.) ===== A few others (any added value or pith is unintentional and purely coincidental): ===== Current job: Multimedia programmer for a small development company in Atlanta. While the topic comes up once in a while in conversation, I'm always curious what some of y'all do. My current position also leads in the category "Job Held Leading to Greatest Feelings of Under-Utilization." Dirties job ever held: Spent a summer vacation working day-labor with a friend for a construction company. I had the wonderful task of working a "fire job" and crawling through a fire- and smoke-damaged attic cleaning out fiberglass insulation sans mask or proper gloves. (Goodbye, health! Hellllo Legionnaire's Disease!) Dream Job: Foley artist for the porn industry. Left or Right: Write right, throw left. Infuriatingly shoot pool with both. Pets/Pets names: Two porker-cats, Oscar and Felix, weighing a combined thirty-three pounds. Eventually hope to get a big enough place to pull Lily and Basil (combined weight nineteen pounds last I saw) out of boarding school back in Connecticut. Longest-Running Purchase Streak Whose Sole Unifying Trait Is Record Label: Twee bliss from Sarah Records. (A half-hearted effort to start cross-thread pollination.) If asked to play God, which would you audition for?: The Egyptians are the bee's knees (the RH association aside), but knowing my luck I would get cast as a pagan goat dancer. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:46:13 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: what makes a feg etc.? what keeps him from etc.ing? Been totally enjoying the one hit Oneders. - --- Beer: & scotch, gin, vodka, fruity liqours Library: LC system, rarely Dewy Glasses: probably, before they hike our insurance rates Sterilized: clean-minded Astrological Cuppa Catshit: Aquarius (Aqua--arius!) Married to (Zodiac-wise): Gemini/Gemini Ethnic background: Scottish plus trace elements Religion: No thanks, but be my guest Ill-Advised Facial Hair: Do over-weening sideburns count? Best anagram for full name: Toss Raylor? Number of times dressed in drag: Do high heels & a toga count? I was a very effected Drama Instructor in F. March's "Romulus the Great" for a couple of weeks in college. Least favorite food/food product: Slimey okra CA Gubernatorial Recall Candidate of Choice: Pat Paulson Last three Halloween costumes: A donkey, a guy in a suit of armor made from kitchen stuff (collenders, burner rings, cookie sheets etc.), a monster (body-covering head from one costume, legs from another) Is it safe? It can never be safe enough. What if anything is written/depicted on you shirt/top right now? 60% cotton, 40% polyester/ single-stitch needlework/ XL/ Wash Warm/ L.L. Bean (ooh, I've got a crick in my neck from reading that) Feg Doppelganger? All of y'all How long? It won't let go until the thunder rolls. Last thing you can remember drawing? My daughter, reading a book. In your car, on the floor of front passenger seat right now? Empty Gatorade bottle, dirty high- school schedule You gonna eat that? 65% chance (would have been 95% two months ago). Favorite arthropod: The Dancing Crab Have you ever been Knighted by a Government Official? Once in England I think I was governed by an official Knight. Number of records owned with medusae on cover: Just the Chills. Could've had a better last question. Ross Taylor "House of the Rising Sun" -- Frijid Pink Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:51:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: What makes a feg? On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, FSThomas wrote: > Feg Doppelganger?: Forth guy from the left here : > http://www.njaz.com/fegfotos/images/SB2k-nyc-globe.jpg Ack! That's the guy we couldn't identify! Can anyone help out here? > Dirties job ever held: I worked at a wastewater treatment facility one summer. And when I say I worked there, don't go picturing me in the front office; hip-waders were a regular part of my work gear. (It was probably healthier than Ferris's job, though.) - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 10:58:56 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Tarot 1: Cards for Rex At 10:07 AM 9/5/2003 -0700, Rex.Broome wrote: >Can >you buy OS cards anywhere? Yes, you can buy a set at: http://www.enoshop.co.uk/ >Is it at least known what all the cards actually >said? Yes. http://www.rtqe.net/ObliqueStrategies/ - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:30:00 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Yo, Gene, can't you deterermine us some better traits? Matt: >>Can't think of a time I dressed up for halloween - except once: went as >>Scary Spice (see dressing in drag). Aha. Something you have in common with my wife, who, while female, is more or less as white as you (slightly more Jewish). Innaresting. Jason T: >>"Jesus hates me." >>Jesus Always Sucks On Nipples Busy guy... 'course that's an acronym, not an anagram, but you can't argue with the results. The major trends thus far are much as Glen predicted... beer and libraries, although we're seeing a lot of cross-dressing as well. Which is odd because I've never gone to the library and seen a drunken drag queen behind the desk. At least that I know of. Also, I believe Gary Coleman is winning our feg straw pole by an impressive margin. Oh, and according to CCC (Chinese Cuppa Catshit) I'm a Boar, but y'all knew that. Wifey is a Rabbit, which is listed as one of my compatible signs, so that works out well. Of course I once read on one of them placemats that the Serpent is "my enemy", the only time such strong wording was used (usually it was something like "Avoid the cock (Beavis)")*. Number One Daughter is a Serpent. We seem to get on fine, though. - -Rex *Now there's a punctuation logjam for ya, and it looks even better with the asterisk I stuck in the middle just so I could talk about it some more. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 11:22:36 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: What makes a feg? on 9/4/03 6:17 PM, Rex.Broome at Rex.Broome@preferredmedia.com wrote: >>> We know that fegs overwhelmingly drink beer, work in libraries and >>> wear glasses. It would be interesting to know what other traits are common >>> in fegs. > Beer: Usually geueze. A lot of bourbon lately tho... Library: No, but I probably should since I like research. Glasses: For driving & movies Sterilized: Thought I was for a long time, but alas Joelle! Astrological Cuppa Catshit: Gemini, if you really must know Married to (Zodiac-wise): Virgo, '' Ethnic background: English, Irish, German Religion: Fuck no. Worst thing ever invented by humans. Ill-Advised Facial Hair: Not presently Best anagram for full name: March To Salt! Number of times dressed in drag: amazingly, none. Least favorite food/food product: land-based animal. CA Gubernatorial Recall Candidate of Choice: No on recall/yes on Busta. Last three Halloween costumes: Phillies relief pitcher Mitch Williams (1996), Cruise ship terrorist victim Leon Klinghoffer (1984), Automaker/cocaine trafficker John DeLorean (1982) Is it safe? I think so. Just point it the other way. What if anything is written/depicted on you shirt/top right now? Tie-dyed hawaiian orchids. Feg Doppelganger? Robyn. How long? Just over 20 years. Last thing you can remember drawing? State machine diagram. In your car, on the floor of front passenger seat right now? "Datapanik In The Year Zero" - The Pere Ubu box set. You gonna eat that? Right after I watch you juice it up a little. Favorite arthropod: I'd have to go with the giant millipede. Have you ever been Knighted by a Government Official? Um, no. Number of records owned with medusae on cover: None that I know of. Knock y'self out!: Once Some of my own: Written/depicted on your favorite coffee mug: "This is the Enemy - No More Wars For Religion". Last time entered a WalMart: Never. Number of continents visited: Three Default browser home page: Myway.com Paper or plastic?: plastic Typical freeway speed: 74mph Picture on office wall: George Bush holding a bong. Windham Hill records: None. Reward credit cards: Amazon.com & United Airlines Happy Friday! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 11:32:43 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Yo, Gene, can't you deterermine us some better traits? At 11:30 AM 9/5/2003 -0700, Rex.Broome wrote: > >>Jesus Always Sucks On Nipples > >Busy guy... 'course that's an acronym, not an anagram, but you can't argue >with the results. Oh, fucking hell. I read what I wanted to read, I suppose. Even worse, "Jason" would be the acronym of the above, not the other way around... TORN A JOB NORTH, STONER Bleh. Best I could find. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:48:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Questioning the answers "Rex.Broome" wrote: > Glen: > >>>Best anagram for full name: > >>Lunged Beerward. > > Damn, I thought *mine* was good. the best one that the anagram server game me was Farm Jag Fever, which sounds like Mojo Nixon abusing Ted Nugent. A disturbing number have "Jeff" included as part of the anagram. the double f's fuck everything up I guess > Jeff D: > >>> Sterilized: no. will have to decide whether or not to > have children > >>first. will have to meet person with i'd want to make > the decision first for that matter. > > It seems to me that "childless by choice" is a prevailing > current amongst fegs... yes? definitely. plus, I suspect I'll be a better uncle than father. and i'm making up for my moron cousin who had four children by four different fathers before 25, including the third child by a guy who tried to kill the second child, and a fourth child by a guy who told her he was sterile because of exposure during Operation Desert Storm. And she doesn't know who the father of the first one is. thankfully, I haven't seen or talked to her in a long ass time (she also was drinking at my father's wake while pregnant for the fourth time). > >>In your car, on the floor of front passenger seat right > >>now? empty nantucket nectar lemonade bottle, shrink > >>wrap from Neil Young _on the beach,_ > > Ooohh. It's really good, innit? The CD, not the > lemonade. Or the shrinkwrap. the lemonade wasn't bad and it wasn't like i paid for it (and it was better than the other choices at noah's). the shrinkwrap was easily removable which qualifies it was really good for shrinkwrap. the album is great. I may have to modify my 70's list actually. If I was inclined to bother. I do, however, like the A's cap better than everything else on the floor. unless it's raining really hard. ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 11:52:55 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Yo, Gene, can't you deterermine us some better traits? on 9/5/03 11:32 AM, Jason R. Thornton at jthornton@ucsd.edu wrote: >>>> Jesus Always Sucks On Nipples >> >> Busy guy... 'course that's an acronym, not an anagram, but you can't argue >> with the results. > > Oh, fucking hell. I read what I wanted to read, I suppose. Even worse, > "Jason" would be the acronym of the above, not the other way around... > > TORN A JOB NORTH, STONER > > Bleh. Best I could find. Try this, since punctuation is allowed: North? A Job? Stoner Torn... - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 14:53:40 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: What makes a feg? At 11:22 AM 9/5/2003 -0700, Tom Clark wrote: Written/depicted on your favorite coffee mug: Former co-worker's "Jesus is coming. Look busy." mug which he flaunted with hope that people just wouldn't talk to him. Last time entered a WalMart: A month ago? I bought a kettle. Number of continents visited: Two. Default browser home page: My Yahooooooooooooooo Paper or plastic?: Paper, please. Typical freeway speed: In Atlanta? Anywhere between 6 and 86 mph Picture on office wall: None at the moment. Windham Hill records: December (in storage) Reward credit cards: Delta Airlines and Walden's Books ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:02:04 -0700 From: Elizabeth Brion Subject: Re: What makes a feg? Oh, what the hell... > Rex.Broome asked, What makes a feg: > >>> Beer: No, nothing alcoholic >>> Library: Record store. But we share a parking lot with a library. > >>> Glasses: Contacts. But I just found some really cute frames, so that may change. Blind as a mole, at any rate. >>> Sterilized: Not that I know of, although I'm beginning to wonder (grumble, grumble, grumble) > >>> Astrological data: Scorpio married to Scorpio. > >>> Ethnic background: Irish/English/German. Somehow related to Betsy Ross, but cannot sew. Eligible for DAR, but... um, no. > >>> Religion: > Absolutely not. > >>> Ill-Advised Facial Hair: Absolutely not. > Anagram: I'm torn between Babe Zither Loin and Blab the Ionizer. >>> Number of times dressed in drag: Boy drag? Just Adam Ant, once in my youth. Which hardly seems to count. I often dress like a drag queen, though - let's say twice a week. > >>> Least favorite food/food product: > > Onions. > >>> CA Gubernatorial Recall Candidate of Choice: > > Although I can't stand Davis or Bustamante, I'll probably find myself voting for both of 'em on principle. >>> Is it safe? No, it's very, very dangerous. You never know until you try, really. > >>> What if anything is written/depicted on you shirt/top right now? > Pretty, pretty flowers. > >>> Feg Doppelganger? > > Don't know of any. > >>> How long? > > Too fucking long, that's for sure. > >>> Last thing you can remember drawing? > When you've got the carpal tunnel and the tendonitis, you don't tend to draw a lot. > >>> In your car, on the floor of front passenger seat right now? > A bunch of leaves, because I parked under a tree with the top down. > >>> You gonna eat that? Eventually - I'm just a methodical chewer. > >>> Favorite arthropod: > > I love all species equally. And on another subject: Number of ECM titles owned: A dozen or so, but I had no clue I was supposed to geek out on the subject. I always miss the good geeking opportunities. And the Windham Hill people scare me too, but I have to be nice to them at work. Elizabeth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 14:32:18 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: Copping to having Morgen > From: John McIntyre > Subject: Re: Copping to having done so > > I've taken fliers (albeit cheap ones) on stuff on > Limelight and Probe on the chance that it might be another Fifty Foot Hose or > Morgen. Morgen! I've been looking for a copy of that Morgen record for about a year. The vinyl goes for about $200 and the CD seems to have been issued only in Greece. I swear, I listen to an MP3 of "Of Dreams" about ten times per week, and the fargin' thing even ends early at 2:00 minutes. It has to be one of the most perfectest chunks o' psychedelic sludge I've ever heard. Wellwater Conspiracy's cover doesn't even come close. Fifty Foot Hose I've got, that was easy. Never did buy that second CD reissue of "Cauldron" however. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:32:34 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: This may excite some of you.... Quoting Eb : > [While I'm here, I thought this -- > http://www.southern.com/southern/label/TCH/chicagoreader/butthole.html > -- was fascinating reading] Agreed. Incidentally, I thought the name of the band was just "Rachel's" - so the apostrophe can make sense. "The Rachel's" (as the article has it) is just wrong. Or maybe it *is* just wrong - but I've never seen it w/the definite article before. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: it's not your meat :: --Mr. Toad ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:48:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Subject: Re: What makes a Feg? Beer: Not so much. Guinness or something when I do drink a beer. "American beer is like making love in a canoe: fucking too close to water" Library: No, but a feel a kinship there. Glasses: Yes. and contacts. Sterilized: Nope. Don't want to be either. I have one lovely mini-me and if another happens, great. If not, that's fine too. Astrological Cuppa Catshit: Virgo (cusp with Libra. hint: my birthday is the 22nd so shope now to avoid the rush). Married to (Zodiac-wise): Aquarius. Ethnic background: Mother's side were Russian Jews who fled the Revolution through China and then spread around the world. Father's side not really sure. Religion: Baptised a Methodist as a kid. Married into Catholics. Ill-Advised Facial Hair: I couldn't grow any in high school and had to delay until college my experiments with IAFH. Best anagram for full name: none yet. Number of times dressed in drag: Once that I can remember (also includes mid-thirties IAFH): http://www.newts.org/~anvil/gallery.html Least favorite food/food product: Green/red peppers. Mushrooms. tomatoes, though tomato products are fine. CA Gubernatorial Recall Candidate of Choice: Arnold. Either one. Last three Halloween costumes: Hippy (gee, that was a stretch...), bird, and umm, don't remember. Is it safe? Trust me! What if anything is written/depicted on you shirt/top right now? Embroidered patch of "TOMMY'S/Camp Stanley Korea" and a picture of a Thompson submachine gun. Feg Doppelganger? As previously mentioned, I have been stopped on the street by strangers to say I look like Michael Bolten (when he had long hair). How long? Down to my nipples. Last thing you can remember drawing? A bath for my daughter last night. In your car, on the floor of front passenger seat right now? An Audible Otis MP3/audible player connected to iRock FM transmitter with 40MB file of someone reading Alexander Dumas' Mary Queen of Scotts on it. Burger King trash from breakfast. Wife's used kleenex. You gonna eat that? Nope. Favorite arthropod: Trilobites. Benthic *and* vagile! Have you ever been Knighted by a Government Official? I was sworn in to defend the constitution at the JFK building in Boston when I became a government agent. Does that count? Number of records owned with medusae on cover: Can't think of any right now. jv ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:41:15 -0500 (CDT) From: gshell@metronet.com Subject: Re: This may excite some of you.... On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Christopher Gross wrote: > > what kind of idiot would create a show based 500 years in the future and > > incorporate mythology of any type? > > They mean mythology in a less religious sense. Kinda like the "mythology" > of baseball that would include Abner Doubleday, "Casey at the Bat," the > Giants winning the pennant in 1951, and that one time I scored a run in > Little League. > The show does include religion, though -- one of the main characters is a > kind of travelling monk/preacher, while the captain of the ship is an > embittered former believer. And if you expect humanity to be > religion-free in 500 years, well, I just hope the disappointment isn't too > much for your aged heart when the time comes.... i would list those as all fantasy or folklore. sorry to hear about your little league career. i can remember my first few seasons of little league (where we pitched) and wishing there were home run fences so i didn't have to run so fast. unless of couse it was a grounder or line drive and then i was glad there were no fences. ya should a been on my team. i'da knocked yer ass in from first. anyway, doping up good fiction or fantasy with mythology just doesn't seem like the right thing to do. i'll have brand new shiny circulatory pump with a rebuilt regulator. > Meanwhile, Firefly creator Joss Whedon is an outspoken atheist. so the storyline was guided by market strategy, not spiritual belief. that makes sense for an atheist i guess. i don't mind the supernatural to some degree but only in the same way as the easter bunny for example. i wonder how big a flock you could collect by telling people that the easter bunny was actually the spiritual guide or gateway or sacrificial son of the big fucking bunny? i just hate when people try to mix this stuff in with reality. gSs ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #333 ********************************