From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #322 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, August 30 2003 Volume 12 : Number 322 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: another one of them damned lists to start arguments over [Eb ] Re: another one of them damned lists to start arguments over [Jeffrey wit] the operation ["Natalie Jane" ] Re: 30 [Johnathan Vail ] Re: Sigh ["Jonathan Fetter" ] Re: Sigh [Christopher Gross ] Date & Venue Info [Alfred Masciocchi ] But... how does it point directly? ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: Sigh [Tom Clark ] Re: Date & Venue Info [ein kleines kinnemuzik ] Magnet list. '80's lists ["Rex.Broome" ] The hits of the Soft Boys... sung by KIDS JUST LIKE YOU! ["Rex.Broome" ] RE: Well, some of it was as bad as P.O.D., maybe [Sweet & Tender Hooligan] it was a very good year (30) etc. ["ross taylor" ] spam gets surreal, vol. 2 [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 20:48:36 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: another one of them damned lists to start arguments over >Anyway, this is _Magnet_'s judgment of the "Top 60 Albums, >1993-2003." I have 21, not counting a couple which are on my shopping list. >15. Ween - White Pepper** Oh god, they *must* be kidding me. Not that it's *bad*, but 15th out of the last 10 years??? >10. Tortoise - Millions Now Living Will Never Die Shopping-list, big time. >8. Verve - Urban Hymns* >6. Breeders - Last Splash Two more hopelessly overrated rankings. I'm just glad that all my emperor's-new-clothes gripes about the Verve seem mildly validated by how badly Ashcroft's solo career has bombed. >4. Radiohead - OK Computer This one seems to have a fairly strong following. >1. Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea (excited flitting >about by our resident gnat...) Hey, since when is *gnat* the resident NMH fan? I gave a couple of moments to thinking about what indie-scene albums might have been missing from this list, but then decided that I just didn't give an eff. And why they picked Mutations over other Beck albums, and Mars Audiac Quintet over other Stereolab albums, I'll never know. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 23:11:59 -0500 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: Re: another one of them damned lists to start arguments over At 10:48 PM 8/28/2003, you wrote: >And why they picked Mutations over other Beck albums, and Mars Audiac >Quintet over other Stereolab albums, I'll never know. Actually, those picks fall right in line with my tastes. My WTF moment is how the HELL they selected File Under: Easy Listening over any other Sugar record. The songs were great live, but it's easily their weakest recorded thing. - -- dolph who is grateful for the being-30 tips and is doing what he can to implement. :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 21:16:00 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: another one of them damned lists to start arguments over >At 10:48 PM 8/28/2003, you wrote: >>And why they picked Mutations over other Beck albums, and Mars >>Audiac Quintet over other Stereolab albums, I'll never know. > >Actually, those picks fall right in line with my tastes. My WTF >moment is how the HELL they selected File Under: Easy Listening over >any other Sugar record. The songs were great live, but it's easily >their weakest recorded thing. Copper Blue was pre-1993. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 16:24:52 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Christian Rock/another one of them damned lists >James: >>>not sure exactly where the boundary of "Christian-Rock" is. Is it people >>>who only ever sing songs with religious messages, or is the occasional >>>holy content enough to qualify? > >Well, I was definitely thinking from a US-in-the-80's marketing point of >view, although the two bands that I recognized are very different cases from >each other. King's X was marketed as mainstream rock (kinda proggy, ISTR) >but their lyrical concerns were such that every interview with them had >questions like "are you a Christian band", which musta been irritating. A >more extreme case was the Galactic Cowboys, also marketed as mainstream >rock, who had the genius to release a rock single that was widely perceived >as being anti-abortion-rights, and that just doesn't square with the >Standard Rock Thing. They got burned for it. You still see this >sometimes... I think Creed and Evanescence both take their knocks for it >(whereas in a less bigoted world they would just take their knocks for >sucking out loud, which should surely be enough). intriguingly, I've just realised that one of NZ's two or three best late-60s-hippy-drippy songs was decidedly Christian. Ask most NZers into NZ music history what the best songs of the 60s in NZ were, and you'll get people saying "Nature" by the Fourmyula (later covered by the Muttonbirds), "She's a mod" by Ray Columbus and "Spinning spinning spinning" by Simple Image> I think it was originally released by a band in Sweden, but I've no idea for sure: SPINNING, SPINNING, SPINNING The cripple taught us how to dance The blind man taught us how to see The fallen angel taught us how to fly And the prisoner taught us how to be free And now we're spinning, spinning, spinning, through this magic land Heading back to the beginning of the end, the Master's hand I've seen the world tomorrow like sparkling waves of sand being washed by waves of laughter guided by the Master's hand I'm dancing now I have no feet My eyes are gone the light shines bright My wings are clipped and as I soar Our love runs free forever more And now we're spinning, spinning, spinning, through this magic land Heading back to the beginning of the end, the Master's hand I've seen the world tomorrow like sparkling waves of sand being washed by waves of laughter guided by the Master's hand Why not come dancing on with me You'll see this love was meant to be We'll fly through space without a care and free our brothers from despair And now we're spinning, spinning, spinning, through this magic land Heading back to the beginning of the end, the Master's hand Spinning, spinning, spinning, spinning, spinning, spinning... - --- Top 60? I have 18 of those 60 albums, and could probably "bust a 40" in that I have sung with one of the obscurantists' artists on several occasions. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 21:19:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Sigh Has anyone else seen the Victoria's Secret ad with Bawb singing "Lovesick"? At least he sold out for hot chicks in lingerie.... ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 23:18:44 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: another one of them damned lists to start arguments over Quoting Eb : > >6. Breeders - Last Splash > > Two more hopelessly overrated rankings. Dunno - I like this one a lot. The arrangements are straight out of left field, yet usually they rock, too. > how badly Ashcroft's solo career has bombed. I mean, I hate him as much as anyone, but heading up the Justice Dept. really isn't that bad a career accomplishment. Oh - wrong Ashcroft. Maybe Richard should be in John's place? > And why they picked Mutations over other Beck albums, and Mars Audiac > Quintet over other Stereolab albums, I'll never know. I'm guessing you already do know (several other picks, too): sheer cussedness and orneration. Although I really like MAQ too. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb :: --Batman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 22:14:24 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: the operation > > > Can any of you offer encouraging words, humorous anecdotes, or >soothing > >> assurances to this wimpy little man you see typing before you? Tell me > >> something good, send a joke, share your V experience, or just razz me >for > > > being a girly man. > >Just be sure to give the surgeon a tinfoil Thoth, afterwards. I'd think a tinfoil Kronos would be waaaay more appropriate... or maybe that's just if the doctor does a really, really bad job. Likewise a tinfoil Fisher King. I obviously can't give any advice on vasectomies but I do know that my uncle had the insatiable urge to watch samurai movies after he had his vasectomy, so be sure to stock up. I personally like any Kurosawa/Mifune flick but your mileage may vary. Also, congratulations for cutting down on the population explosion and fie on you for cutting down on the workload of my midwife "sistas." ;) n. _________________________________________________________________ Enter for your chance to IM with Bon Jovi, Seal, Bow Wow, or Mary J Blige using MSN Messenger http://entertainment.msn.com/imastar ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 07:38:50 -0400 From: Johnathan Vail Subject: Re: 30 On Thu, Aug 28, 2003, Ken Weingold wrote: Okay, how many of us, Americans at least, went to London at one point or another and went crazy record shopping? The one time I went in 1996 I think I came back with 18 records. Score! 1986 for me. I was actually disapointed though. I was into English/UK stuff like Echo and the Bunneymen and Waterboys and stuff, this being pre- grunge/indie, and imagined this whole trove of stuff I could never have imagined back home even in the Newbie's import rack. Sure there was Tower records which was pretty neat and before there was any such thing that I had seen before in the US and I did get some good stuff including some Robyn but nearly so elite and exclusive as I had hoped. And the thirties are the best time. The thirties typically is when you get the wisdom to realize that you don't know everything. A time when you should have the perspective to figure out the world a little more while you have the resources and youth to still accomplish your goals. For me I had finally figured out the dating thing enough to actually enjoy it. Of course as soon as I did I got married, turned 40 and now figuring out this family thing. Before, enjoying my 30's: http://www.newts.org/~cmvb/cmvb2/jv/picnic-3.jpg And now enjoying being 40, at least for a few more weeks before 41 hits: http://www.newts.org/~emily/ribfestetc/IMG_3186.JPG jv <- oh yeh, and your politics might drift more to the right as you become a part of society... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:38:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Re: Sigh No, but I did see a Hummer commercial with the Who's "Happy Jack." More obscene than Lance Armstrong doing Chrysler commercials, I guess. Jon On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 21:19:56 -0700 (PDT), Jeff Dwarf wrote : > Has anyone else seen the Victoria's Secret ad with Bawb > singing "Lovesick"? > > At least he sold out for hot chicks in lingerie.... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:44:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Sigh On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Jonathan Fetter wrote: > No, but I did see a Hummer commercial with the Who's "Happy Jack." > More obscene than Lance Armstrong doing Chrysler commercials, I > guess. YMMV, but I think "Happy Jack" would be a pretty good song to advertise blowjobs with.... - --Chris "I'm only this funny when I've had my morning coffee" the Christer ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 11:20:05 -0400 From: Alfred Masciocchi Subject: Date & Venue Info A friend was asking for help on a Robyn related recording he recently got. It's a Peter Holsapple show with guest appearances by Robyn and by Peter Buck. Takes place in Chicago and the guess is that it's circa 1987 (based on Holsapple's reference to the recent demise of the dBs). Anyone know the venue and date for this? Thanks, Al ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:33:35 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: But... how does it point directly? Ken: >>Okay, how many of us, Americans at least, went to London at one point >>or another and went crazy record shopping? The one time I went in >>1996 I think I came back with 18 records. Score! The real question is which Yanks *haven't*. Put it this way: the document containing my record "wish list" is titled "london" because that's when and why I created it. Needs an update, Magnet seems to be telling me. _____ James: >>Mine couldn't quite be sung to "It's the end of the world as we know it >>(and I feel fine)". It did, however, contain the word "Barrett": >>sauces scattered mila teratology evocate maxima mealtime hub >>metalliferous blunderings crews (etc.) Try "Unsettled". Works just fine! __________ Glen: >>I'm having my vasectomy tomorrow and I'm beginning to get a little edgy. Lemme know how that goes... I figure I'm 8 months to a year away from the big V m'self. Although I'm starting to think about doing it sooner. It's getting a little odd buying diapers and condoms at the same time. And frankly it's been a drag to get reacquainted with birth control anyway, after almost four years away from the stuff. I'm not too wigged about it, actually. I've never been hacked into in any kind of surgical fashion, so it'll be a first, and I'd just as soon have that happen for something that's less than life-threatening. Wouldn't say I'm looking forward to it, but it's gotta happen. No little Glenlets in the cards, huh? - -Rex, kinda sad about that... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:59:05 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: But... how does it point directly? on 8/29/03 10:33 AM, Rex.Broome at Rex.Broome@preferredmedia.com wrote: > Ken: >>> Okay, how many of us, Americans at least, went to London at one point >>> or another and went crazy record shopping? The one time I went in >>> 1996 I think I came back with 18 records. Score! > > The real question is which Yanks *haven't*. Not me. I've never been to London*, but I had a friend do some major record shopping for me on his nine week jaunt through Europe in '88. One thing he got me was a copy of "Two Halves...", which I had Robyn sign at an in-store in Boston. RH took one look at it and said "where the hell did you find this?" My best personal find was the Pixies "Gigantic/River Euphrates" single I got at the Virgin store in Paris (1993). Second best was the Repo Man Soundtrack from an independent shop in Billings, Montana (1995). In Vasectomy news, I'm considering it, but after my bout with epididymitis , I'm REALLY nervous about having that area messed with (well, when I'm not, um, ready for it, nudge nudge...) - -tc *but I kinda like The Beatles So I headed out to Vegas but only made it out to Needles... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 11:02:14 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Sigh on 8/28/03 9:19 PM, Jeff Dwarf at munki1972@yahoo.com wrote: > Has anyone else seen the Victoria's Secret ad with Bawb > singing "Lovesick"? > > At least he sold out for hot chicks in lingerie.... > Is that what that was? I flipped my tv on at work the other day and saw the hot chicks in lingerie. Then I thought I heard Bawb singing someplace, but my mind wouldn't allow me to put the two together... - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 14:11:05 -0400 From: ein kleines kinnemuzik Subject: Re: Date & Venue Info one time at band camp, Alfred Masciocchi (cakrm@comcast.net) said: >It's a Peter Holsapple show with guest appearances by Robyn and by Peter >Buck. Takes place in Chicago and the guess is that it's circa 1987 >(based on Holsapple's reference to the recent demise of the dBs). >Anyone know the venue and date for this? hmmmm. i'm gonna guess it's either the 9 april 1988 (though i didn't know holsapple made a guest spot at that show) or the worst case scenario gig (which was not an egyptians gig as much as a nigel & the crosses sort of thing). woj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:44:51 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Magnet list. '80's lists I clock in with less than half, by one (that's twenty-nine, exactly). And I'm not surprised; I've really not been on board with any number of indie-trends during the period covered (actually, the cut-off point for my avid indie-ness is almost exactly 1995, and "Emo" to me still means the retarded comedian with the Prince Valiant haircut). There are some that I'll definitely end up with eventually-- maybe enough to get my total up to 3/4. But by the same token also a few that I wouldn't own anymore if I ever culled or pruned my collection, which I don't... I mean, I don't see spinning that Pulp album any time soon. I actually own and endorse the only record Jeffrey wouldn't even consider; for me there's a big bottleneck for that "me no interest" position, headed (predictably) by the Pumpkins but followed quickly by the Beta Band, Elliot Smith, and the two irritating "Wee-" bands. And it'll take some time before I can even consider approaching that Magnetic Fields record, if I ever get there. I think part of my problem is that over the last ten years I've bought a few records by people who are older than 39... not many of those on the list. Few indeed who ever released records any earlier than the mid-eighties. Being country before it was alt- seems to help get you over in this area- I'd guess my fantasy fuck Lucinda is the oldest artist here. But it is what it is. By the way, is the polling closed for the '80's Lists? Time to tabulate? - -Rex "I guess I can see the lack of Soft Boys, Dylan, Cornershop, and Underworld, but no Luna?" Broome ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 11:53:13 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: The hits of the Soft Boys... sung by KIDS JUST LIKE YOU! S&TH: >>Omaha, somewhere in middle America. Living in the relative sticks had pros >>and cons, but the worst of the cons was that the good bands NEVER came to >>Omaha. We always had to drive to KC if we wanted to see anyone. It's a little >>better these days, but I still find myself trekking to KC, Ames, and Denver an >>awful lot. At least you had the psychological possibility of making the trek. Oddly I was really only about three hours apiece from DC, Baltimore and Pittsburgh, but the local mindset was that they might as well be the moon, and were not to be chosen as destinations without intense planning and girding-of-the-loins against the ways of city-folk, etc. >>Hey, wait, all three of those bands suck, but have huge followings - perhaps >>they truly /have/ found a way to be both "Christian" and "secular." You know what they say: Love God, hate Suck. One odd thing that comes with having kids is occasionally seeing the commercials aimed at them. And probably the weirdest one I've seen is an ad for "the big hits of today, sung by kids just like you!"... and sure enough, they have these pre-teen kids, whole bunches of them, singing (in truly irritating unisex unison) what strike me as wholly inappropriate, not to mention awful songs. The ones that stick out in my mind are "Genie in a Bottle", Avril LaWhozit's "Complicated" and POD's "Alive" (AKA "You Thought the Worst Possible Song with This Title Had Already Been Written... You Were WRONG"). Liz Phair didn't seem to make the grade. And the kids are, like, CGI'd onto these psychedelic dreamscapes that defy easy description. Just abominable, man. - -Rex "and there's no kick-ass Moby Grape song named after my home town, either" Broome ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 14:26:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Magnet list. '80's lists On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Rex.Broome wrote: > mean, I don't see spinning that Pulp album any time soon. I can never remember any other song on there but "Common People." That, though, is simply a brilliantly incisive track. > I actually own and endorse the only record Jeffrey wouldn't even consider; > for me there's a big bottleneck for that "me no interest" position, headed I think I've heard all the Moby I need to in ads etc., and I don't really get much out of whichever other album of his I do have (it's the one with a lengthy lefty essay in it. Oh, wait...). > (predictably) by the Pumpkins but followed quickly by the Beta Band, Elliot > Smith, and the two irritating "Wee-" bands. And it'll take some time before > I can even consider approaching that Magnetic Fields record, if I ever get > there. I'm surprised on the Elliott Smith thing, although not the other ones. Smith's records remind me of a mythical collaboration between Simon & Garfunkel and Lennon & McCartney. How can that be a bad thing? (Okay, because Lennon wrote all the lyrics while addicted to heroin, but still...) > -Rex "I guess I can see the lack of Soft Boys, Dylan, Cornershop, and > Underworld, but no Luna?" Broome Yeah, Luna's a surprising omission from those guys. But the bit about "over 40" is a bit funny - since the magazine's god is none other than Bob Pollard... In fact, they profile a handful of whom they consider the most important artists of their decade - if I recall, half of 'em are now over 40 (Kim Gordon's the oldest, at 50). - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::This album is dedicated to anyone who started out as an animal and ::winds up as a processing unit. __Soft Boys, note, CAN OF BEES__ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 11:08:22 -0700 From: Sweet & Tender Hooligan Subject: RE: Well, some of it was as bad as P.O.D., maybe > If music was "of the world" or made by people "in the world" > (the terminology gave me the heebie-jeebies big time), it was > to be eschewed in favor of simulacra distinguished mainly by > its distribution network. It was almost as bad as Elephant 6. LOL! > Where'd you grow up, Hooli? Omaha, somewhere in middle America. Living in the relative sticks had pros and cons, but the worst of the cons was that the good bands NEVER came to Omaha. We always had to drive to KC if we wanted to see anyone. It's a little better these days, but I still find myself trekking to KC, Ames, and Denver an awful lot. The city just built a gigantic new area, and the promise is that we'll be compensated for the tax hike in the form of major acts coming to the area. We'll see. > There seems to have been a sea-change lately where bands have been able > to package themselves as Christian-if-you're-paying-attention and get away > with it. Like I said, Creed, POD, Evanescence... the marketing machine is a > bit more finely-tuned these days, I guess. Yeah, though these are bands that make a point of being spiritually ambiguous, something that Christian fans seem to find more acceptable today than they did ten years ago. Hey, wait, all three of those bands suck, but have huge followings - perhaps they truly /have/ found a way to be both "Christian" and "secular." = s&th hooligan@apostate.com "we've lost all our money, we're thrown out of bars we're lying in the gutter, but we're looking at the stars" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 14:09:09 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: it was a very good year (30) etc. 1985 Well, it was a so-so year. I started ernestly making song demos w/ a friend who had access to a studio, very pop, w/ idea of pitching them to mm-- mm--, can't say it, mm-- Madonna-type up-and-comings. Zero luck at that, but got some awards from a local Songwriter's Association & learned a (small) bit about studios. No divorce that year, but in 1980 I'd split w/ someone I'd lived with for most of the 70s & I was still thinking that marriage was a worthless social construct. Was just starting to date my now wife (she's still very *nOw*). Big numbers & big bad events can be a rough combo -- my dad died just when I was turning 40, & that somehow made it harder. - --- V-day nigh thigh-- [caution -- medical yuck, but non-genital] I expect I will soon indirectly enter this conversation & perhaps an indirect one w/ Eb via a colonoscopy. I share Glen's concern about doctors, but I've shopped around (one is permitted to shop around) & think I have a good one (many of them exist). My main feeling about unpleasant medical proceedures, is they wouldn't be too bad except for the ritual & waiting. Even the ol' shot in the arm or blood sample can take on some menace when there's a big build up & wait. I get hurt worse washing dishes or working in the yard or playing with the neighbors cat (much worse) & don't remember until I see the mark, but while the nurse is coming it's "pin prick in 2 min. 30 sec., pin prick in 1 min. 15 sec, pin prick in 37.5 sec., pin prick in 18.75 sec. ... Sometimes there's also stuff you'd just as soon they didn't tell you -- I had a cyst removed from near my eye years ago, & while I was out they apparently took my eye all the way out of the socket to do the job better. Still bugs me to think about -- so I wanted to tell you-all. :) My solution is to "work on something" while I wait. Teaching was great for that cause I could read papers etc. until they made me put them away, & then I could plan lessons in my head. Now it's more like planning social stuff, juggling details of my manuscript or trying to get my head around some difficult book. - --- Shopping in England-- They used to sell tons of cheap (& often crappy) bootlegs out by Camden Lock -- is that still there? Ross Taylor "you'll never have the damn thing out or meet the pope and kiss his neck and like him more than you'd expect" Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 00:18:25 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: spam gets surreal, vol. 2 It's late at night and I'm tired, so I'm not sure whether I really saw what I think I just saw... Has anyone else here been spammed by someone who says they're a time traveller from the future wanting money to repair their time machine? James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #322 ********************************