From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #315 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, August 22 2003 Volume 12 : Number 315 Today's Subjects: ----------------- The peanut gallery speaks ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: more dubious performance art [Carrie Galbraith ] bring on the gated drum crashes [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: The peanut gallery speaks [UglyNoraGrrl@aol.com] Re: The peanut gallery speaks [Tom Clark ] Re: The peanut gallery speaks [Eb ] Re: The peanut gallery speaks [John Barrington Jones ] Re: The peanut gallery speaks [Eb ] RE: The peanut gallery speaks ["Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" ] Re: The peanut gallery speaks [Eb ] Re: The peanut gallery speaks [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] [none] [Dolph Chaney ] Re: 80s [Eb ] Re: The peanut gallery speaks [Capuchin ] Now coming to a VH-1 perversion near you [Jeff Dwarf Subject: The peanut gallery speaks Eb: >>R.E.M. Life's Rich Pageant Wow, you don't see that one on a lot of people's top 5 REM album lists, unless it's in the #5 slot for a Warner Brothers Years Denier*. Especially interesting since Eb picked many of the same albums I would have for the respective artists. Lots of votes for 10000 Maniacs "In My Tribe", a record I'm embarassed to own (again, would prune it if I pruned at all)... but I'm probably just noticing it because it's the first record on all the alphabetical lists. Almost makes me wanna do one of these after all... - -Rex *that doesn't look right, but "Denyer" is even weirder-looking. S'posed to be parallel construction to "holocaust denier" as in "anti-semite who denies that the holocaust happened". Not that that has anything to do with REM's Warner Bros. years... ah, never mind... ah hell, need more coffee... so, yeah, electric guitar missiles; one thing you could do would be to fit them all with wireless rigs and e-bows so they could sort of play themselves as they fly. That would be cool. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:39:23 +0300 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: more dubious performance art On Giovedl, ago 21, 2003, at 08:52 Europe/Bucharest, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > Anyway, I thought that a Grand Piano Demolition Derby would be a fun > idea. > The pianos are fitted with numerous contact mics (as well as a > non-mic'd, > sound-buffered motor, so they can be driven about), and the well-padded > drivers drive them about in demo derby style - of course, the sounds > are > mixed and amplified. If we want, we can toss in some electric guitar > missiles...preferably with some sort of wind-driven plectrum device > similar > to the way kids put cards in bicycle spokes, and "wings" mounted so > they can > slide along beneath the strings and change the pitch. > Hmmm...Sounds like a Survival Research Lab gig I saw under the freeway in SF a few years ago. Except the pianos were piled one on top of the other around the freeway pilings and the robots he set in motion belched flame. Eventually, of course... Then one of the robots, with it's lpg tank fell into the bonfire. Never went over a fence so fast in my life. I'd like to see this. Do mount a web cam or two, please! Be Seeing You, - - c ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 13:12:40 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Aw, hell, I give in... ... but, man, my list is really, really boring and predictable. Billy Bragg, Talking with the Taxman etc. Byrne/Eno, My Life in the Bush of Ghosts Camper Van Beethoven, Our Beloved Revolutionary Sweetheart The Chills, Kaleidoscope World (Ken's logic holds for me) The Church, oh, I dunno, let's say Heyday The Clash, London Calling (seems to be allowed) dB's, Repercussion Steve Earle, Copperhead Road Echo & the Bunnymen, Porcupine (yes, dammit, Porcupine) The Fall, Hex Enduction Hour The Feelies, Crazy Rhythms fIREHOSE, Ragin', Full On Galaxie 500, On Fire G*** T***, L***** N***** Gang of Four, Entertainment Go-Betweens, Liberty Belle and Her Amazing Black Snake Diamond Express Roll Richard Hell & the Voidoids, Destiny Street Robyn Hitchcock, Element of Light Hoosker Doo, Flip Yr Wig Live Skull, Dusted minutemen, Double Nickels on the Dime Mission of Burma, Vs. New Order, Movement Pixies, Surfer Rosa Pogues, If I Should Fall from Grace with God Pylon, Gyrate The Raincoats, Moving REM, Fables of the Reconstruction of the Fables Replacements, Tim Soft Boys, Underwater Moonlight Sonic Youth, Sista Talking Heads, Remain in Light Throwing Muses, Throwing Muses Pete Townshend, Empty Glass Tom Verlaine, Dreamtime Lucinda Williams, Lucinda Williams Wire, The Ideal Copy X, Los Angeles Dwight Yoakam, Guitars Cadillacs Etc. Neil Young, Freedom (this slot should really go to Dylan's Oh Mercy, but Neil tried harder in the '80's) If I can't have Kaleidoscope World, I'll take: Nick Cave& the Bad Seeds, Tender Prey And if I can't have London Calling, give me: John Cale, Honi Soit The list of also-rans is really bad; every single one of these was in serious contention: American Music Club, California; Beastie Boys, Paul's Boutique; Chameleons, What Does Anything Mean Basically; Cocteau Twins, Pink Opaque (basically a comp, but since it's not on my real list, whatever), Julian Cope, Saint Julian; Crowded House, Temple of Low Men; Dinosaur Jr, Bug; Dream Syndicate, Days of Wine and Roses; Bob Dylan, Oh Mercy; Peter Gabriel, the only one just called that in the '80's; Jesus & Mary Chain, Psychocandy; Housemartins, London 0 Hull 4; Miracle Legion, Me & Mr. Ray; My Bloody Valentine, Isn't Anything; Mary Margaret O'Hara, Miss America' Pretenders II; Lou Reed, New York; Sugarcubes, Life's Too Good; The Teardrop Explodes, Wilder; They Might Be Giants, Lincoln; This Mortal Coil, Filigree & Shadow; Richard & Linda Thompson, Shoot Out the Lights; Suzanne Vega, Suzanne Vega; Tom Waits, Franks Wild Years, XTC, Oranges & Lemons... and there woulda been more but I just gave up... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 15:44:40 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: bring on the gated drum crashes This was harder for the eighties for me than it was for the seventies, for some reason. Anyway, here's my list (alpha by title), plus the ones that didn't quite make it. Rules are: (a) one listing per artist, (b) no compilations, (c) I'm probably forgetting stuff that I never bought on CD, and (d) I'll change my mind on many of these next week. Smiths, the [s/t] Translator [s/t] Violent Femmes [s/t] Orchestral Manuvres in the Dark Architecture & Morality Go-Betweens, the Before Hollywood Reed, Lou Blue Mask, The Kraftwerk Computer World Sonic Youth Daydream Nation Bush, Kate Dreaming, The Verlaine, Tom Dreamtime XTC English Settlement Cope, Julian Fried Dolby, Thomas Golden Age of Wireless, The* Cale, John Honi Soit Throwing Muses House Tornado / The Fat Skier * with the proviso that it's the non-existent version compiling the _Blinded by Science_ EP versions of those tracks, both versions of "Radio Silence," and the two tracks on the BRitish & LP versions of the album but not on the US CD Hitchcock, Robyn I Often Dream of Trains* Captain Beefheart & the Magic Band Ice Cream for Crow Wire Ideal Copy, The Costello, Elvis & the Attractions Imperial Bedroom Ultra Vivid Scene Joy 19671990 * If I'd considered RH & the Egyptians a separate band, _Element of Light_ might have made the list Camper Van Beethoven Key Lime Pie Teardrop Explodes, the Kilimanjaro Game Theory Lolita Nation X Los Angeles R.E.M. Murmur U2 October Echo & the Bunnymen Porcupine Talking Heads Remain in Light Bowie, David Scary Monsters Thompson, Richard and Linda Shoot Out the Lights Mekons So Good It Hurts Gang of Four Songs of the Free dB's, the Stands for Decibels Pixies Surfer Rosa Waits, Tom Swordfishtrombones Psychedelic Furs, the Talk Talk Talk Fall, the This Nation's Saving Grace Replacements, the Tim Soft Boys, the Underwater Moonlight Siberry, Jane Walking, The - --------------- The Professor and Mary Anne: The [English] Beat, Special Beat Service; Butthole Surfers, Hairway to Steven; Julian Cope, Saint Julian; Elvis Costello & the Attractions, Trust; Dire Straits, Making Movies; Dream Syndicate, The Days of Wine and Roses; Brian Eno, Ambient 4: On Land; Peter Gabriel, s/t (3rd one); Robyn Hitchcock & the Egyptians, Element of Light; H|sker D|, New Day Rising; The Jam, Sound Affects; Japan, Tin Drum (so there, Blender magazine...pbbbrrssstt!); Jesus and Mary Chain, Psychocandy; King Crimson, Discipline; Let's Active, Cypress; Meat Puppets, Up on the Sun; Minutemen, Double Nickels on the Dime; Negativland, Escape From Noise; Gary Numan, Telekon or Dance; Michael Penn, March; Pere Ubu, The Art of Walking; Plasticland, Wonder Wonderful Wonderland; The Residents, The Commercial Album; David Sylvian, Brilliant Trees; They Might Be Giants, Lincoln; Tuxedomoon, Half-Mute or Desire ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb :: --Batman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 15:49:57 -0500 From: "Iosso, Ken" Subject: RE: bring on the gated drum crashes Translator and Game Theory! Cool. Ken Iosso - -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey [mailto:jenor@uwm.edu] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 3:45 PM To: arboreal autograph collectors Subject: bring on the gated drum crashes This was harder for the eighties for me than it was for the seventies, for some reason. Anyway, here's my list (alpha by title), plus the ones that didn't quite make it. Rules are: (a) one listing per artist, (b) no compilations, (c) I'm probably forgetting stuff that I never bought on CD, and (d) I'll change my mind on many of these next week. Smiths, the [s/t] Translator [s/t] Violent Femmes [s/t] Orchestral Manuvres in the Dark Architecture & Morality Go-Betweens, the Before Hollywood Reed, Lou Blue Mask, The Kraftwerk Computer World Sonic Youth Daydream Nation Bush, Kate Dreaming, The Verlaine, Tom Dreamtime XTC English Settlement Cope, Julian Fried Dolby, Thomas Golden Age of Wireless, The* Cale, John Honi Soit Throwing Muses House Tornado / The Fat Skier * with the proviso that it's the non-existent version compiling the _Blinded by Science_ EP versions of those tracks, both versions of "Radio Silence," and the two tracks on the BRitish & LP versions of the album but not on the US CD Hitchcock, Robyn I Often Dream of Trains* Captain Beefheart & the Magic Band Ice Cream for Crow Wire Ideal Copy, The Costello, Elvis & the Attractions Imperial Bedroom Ultra Vivid Scene Joy 19671990 * If I'd considered RH & the Egyptians a separate band, _Element of Light_ might have made the list Camper Van Beethoven Key Lime Pie Teardrop Explodes, the Kilimanjaro Game Theory Lolita Nation X Los Angeles R.E.M. Murmur U2 October Echo & the Bunnymen Porcupine Talking Heads Remain in Light Bowie, David Scary Monsters Thompson, Richard and Linda Shoot Out the Lights Mekons So Good It Hurts Gang of Four Songs of the Free dB's, the Stands for Decibels Pixies Surfer Rosa Waits, Tom Swordfishtrombones Psychedelic Furs, the Talk Talk Talk Fall, the This Nation's Saving Grace Replacements, the Tim Soft Boys, the Underwater Moonlight Siberry, Jane Walking, The - --------------- The Professor and Mary Anne: The [English] Beat, Special Beat Service; Butthole Surfers, Hairway to Steven; Julian Cope, Saint Julian; Elvis Costello & the Attractions, Trust; Dire Straits, Making Movies; Dream Syndicate, The Days of Wine and Roses; Brian Eno, Ambient 4: On Land; Peter Gabriel, s/t (3rd one); Robyn Hitchcock & the Egyptians, Element of Light; H|sker D|, New Day Rising; The Jam, Sound Affects; Japan, Tin Drum (so there, Blender magazine...pbbbrrssstt!); Jesus and Mary Chain, Psychocandy; King Crimson, Discipline; Let's Active, Cypress; Meat Puppets, Up on the Sun; Minutemen, Double Nickels on the Dime; Negativland, Escape From Noise; Gary Numan, Telekon or Dance; Michael Penn, March; Pere Ubu, The Art of Walking; Plasticland, Wonder Wonderful Wonderland; The Residents, The Commercial Album; David Sylvian, Brilliant Trees; They Might Be Giants, Lincoln; Tuxedomoon, Half-Mute or Desire ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb :: --Batman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 16:00:47 -0500 From: Eugene Hopstetter Subject: Definitely not New Wave photos Nope, none of that here. Just pure, unmitigated terror. http://www.karpenters.com/> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:35:42 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Definitely not New Wave photos on 8/21/03 2:00 PM, Eugene Hopstetter at ehopstetter@pcicatalog.com wrote: > Nope, none of that here. Just pure, unmitigated terror. > > http://www.karpenters.com/> AAAAAAAGH!! Make it go away!!! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 18:02:08 -0400 From: UglyNoraGrrl@aol.com Subject: Re: The peanut gallery speaks Rex: > Eb: > >>R.E.M. Life's Rich Pageant > > Wow, you don't see that one on a lot of people's top 5 REM > album lists, unless it's in the #5 slot for a Warner > Brothers Years Denier*. Especially interesting since Eb > picked many of the same albums I would have for the > respective artists. Really? It's my top REM album overall and I always assumed it was easily the second most popular IRS era album after Murmur. Is it much maligned in REM circles? Why? > Lots of votes for 10000 Maniacs "In My Tribe", a record I'm > embarassed to own (again, would prune it if I pruned at > all)... but I'm probably just noticing it because it's the > first record on all the alphabetical lists. I used to love that album in high school, but i'm happy to be free of it now. I think I unloaded it back in college as part of a trade with some girl for either beer or a sweater. I also purposely destroyed someone else's copy of it at a party (I replaced it of course!) Anyway here is my list: AC/DC-Back in Black Bowie, David-Scary Monsters Bragg, Billy-Talking With the Taxman About Poetry Clash-Sandinista* Cleaners from Venus-Going To England Cole, Lloyd-Easy Pieces Costello, Elvis-Imperial Bedroom Crowded House-Temple of the Lowmen Dinosaur Jr.-Bug Eno & Byrne-My Life in the Bushes of Ghosts Gabriel, Peter-Melt Go-Betweens-Tallulah Go-Go's-Beauty and the Beat Hitchcock, Robyn-Fegmania! Husker Du-Brand New Day Jackson, Joe-Night and Day Jackson, Michael-Thriller Jam-Sound Affects Jesus and Mary Chain-Psychocandy Kinks-Give the People What They Want Madonna-Like a Prayer Magazine-The Correct Use of Soap Morrissey-Viva Hate Newman, Randy-Trouble in Paradise Pixies-Doolittle Pogues-Rum Sodomy & the Lash Prefab Sprout-Swoon Prince-Purple Rain REM-Life's Rich Pageant Richie, Lionel- Can't Slow Down Smiths-The Queen is Dead Soft Boys-Underwater Moonlight Squeeze-East Side Story Style Council-Cafe Bleu Talking Heads-True Stories They Might Be Giants-Lincoln Waits, Tom-Swordfishtrombones Wiedlin, Jane-Fur XTC-Black Sea Young Fresh Fellows-Topsy Turvey * No London Calling does not count! But I would have taken Sandinista over it anyway. Later, Nora ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 15:22:53 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: The peanut gallery speaks on 8/21/03 3:02 PM, UglyNoraGrrl@aol.com at UglyNoraGrrl@aol.com wrote: > Anyway here is my list: > > Dinosaur Jr.-Bug Cool. > Richie, Lionel- Can't Slow Down Not Cool. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 15:56:50 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: The peanut gallery speaks >Nora, still shielding her curves from Glen Uber's prying eyes: > > >>R.E.M. Life's Rich Pageant >> >Really? It's my top REM album overall and I always assumed it was >easily the second most popular IRS era album after Murmur. Is it >much maligned in REM circles? Why? Actually, the most popular IRS-era album is Document. The Trouser Press Guide really trashes Life's Rich Pageant, and I've never quite understood why. Possibly my strongest disagreement with Ira Robbins in the whole book. (And he also hates New Adventures in Hi-Fi, damn him.) Life's Rich Pageant was the album which converted me into a R.E.M. fan, after I managed to resist the earlier ones. It may be my overall favorite, too. >Costello, Elvis-Imperial Bedroom >Eno & Byrne-My Life in the Bush of Ghosts >Pixies-Doolittle Seems like these have been on practically every list, so far..... >Husker Du-Brand New Day Eeeeek. Someone's far too preoccupied with Sting. ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 16:03:45 -0700 (PDT) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Re: The peanut gallery speaks > >Costello, Elvis-Imperial Bedroom > > Seems like these have been on practically every list, so far..... Yeah, I'm pretty surprised at how popular Imperial Bedroom is with the fegs. I don't think you'd see that same showing on an EC mailing list (if there is one - I dunno) My favorite EC of the 80's is Trust. It is the first album of his that I ever heard, and so cannot shake the number one spot. The one-two punch of Clubland - Lover's Walk is a big factor for me. I've also seen alot of Get Happy mentions on here as well. Woah. I can see the appeal, but Get Happy just never hit me the way some other of his albums did. =jbj= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 16:09:10 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: The peanut gallery speaks > > >Costello, Elvis-Imperial Bedroom >> >Yeah, I'm pretty surprised at how popular Imperial Bedroom is with the >fegs. I don't think you'd see that same showing on an EC mailing list Mmm...yes, you would. >I've also seen alot of Get Happy mentions on here as well. Woah. I can see >the appeal, but Get Happy just never hit me the way some other of his >albums did. I don't like that album as well as most other Costello devotees, either. I enjoy six or seven other EC albums more. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 16:21:39 -0700 From: "Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" Subject: RE: The peanut gallery speaks John Barrington Jones: > > >Costello, Elvis-Imperial Bedroom > > > > Seems like these have been on practically every list, so far..... > > Yeah, I'm pretty surprised at how popular Imperial Bedroom is with the > fegs. I don't think you'd see that same showing on an EC mailing list (if > there is one - I dunno) I was on the EC Mailing list the unimaginatively titled Costello-L for like 5 or 6 years and I think Imperial Bedroom was always either number one or number two whenever best album polls would come up. > I've also seen alot of Get Happy mentions on here as well. Woah. I can see > the appeal, but Get Happy just never hit me the way some other of his > albums did. I picked Get Happy for my list, but Imperial Bedroom is a close second for me. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 11:32:26 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: wow... >Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 00:48:40 +1200 >From: grutness@surf4nix.com >Subject: wow... > >Just had a fairly sizable "California event" here. Long steady rumble for >about 80 seconds - the house felt like it was a small boat on a gently >undulating sea. > >What's worse, it was probably my fault. I was listening to Metallica at >midnight - did I accudentally wake Cthulhu? turns out to have been bigger than I thought - 7.1. Luckily off the coast of a largely uninhabited area, so no casualties. And as if the original shake didn't worry me enough, I got woken by an aftershock a couple of hours later. James (must...get...sleep) James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 21:54:50 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: The peanut gallery speaks Quoting Eb : > Actually, the most popular IRS-era album is Document. "Popular" in terms of sales or, uh, popularity (that is, critical acclaim - such as on R.E.M. mailing lists)? It's my second-favorite R.E.M. album of the eighties, fwiw. > The Trouser Press Guide really trashes Life's Rich Pageant, and I've > never quite understood why. Possibly my strongest disagreement with > Ira Robbins in the whole book. (And he also hates New Adventures in > Hi-Fi, damn him.) I've got no problem with LRP - but Hi-Fi? I've gone over this before*, but damned near every song on that album is thirty seconds to a minute too long, and at least a couple of the more aimless ones would have made better b-sides. There's a good 40-minute album in there struggling to work its way out of the 50-plus minutes the album actually inhabits. It's my week to make posts that draw Miles' interest (on another list, I was talking about Springsteen), so I'll note that Hi-Fi is one of Miles' favorite R.E.M. albums as well. He can defend it, though. * in excruciating, track-by-track detail: if anyone cares, I can direct you to the URL. > >Costello, Elvis-Imperial Bedroom > >Eno & Byrne-My Life in the Bush of Ghosts > >Pixies-Doolittle > > Seems like these have been on practically every list, so far..... I like the Eno/Byrne thing well enough - but not enough for it to make my list. I think I mentioned that _Trust_ was my second-highest ranking '80s Costello effort. Am I wrong, or has _Underwater Moonlight_ been conspicuously missing from a few lists? ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: capitalism is the socialism of the rich :: ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 20:46:32 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: The peanut gallery speaks > > Actually, the most popular IRS-era album is Document. > >"Popular" in terms of sales or, uh, popularity (that is, critical acclaim - >such as on R.E.M. mailing lists)? It's my second-favorite R.E.M. album of >the eighties, fwiw. I think the term "popular" pretty much points directly to sales, don't you? And certainly, "The One I Love" is the best-known song of REM's I.R.S. era. And if it isn't that, it's probably "The End of the World as We Know It".... Damn those R.E.M. boys. Why didn't they quit when they were ahead? They're tarnishing their legacy, at this point. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 23:19:46 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: The peanut gallery speaks Quoting Eb : > > > Actually, the most popular IRS-era album is Document. > > > >"Popular" in terms of sales or, uh, popularity (that is, critical > acclaim - > >such as on R.E.M. mailing lists)? It's my second-favorite R.E.M. album > of > >the eighties, fwiw. > > I think the term "popular" pretty much points directly to sales, > don't you? Well, we'd been talking about which albums were favored on various artists' mailing lists...so in context, it wasn't as clear as it might have been. In other contexts, I could point out that "popular music" as the name of a genre says nothing about sales, and that "pop" as a genre - particularly "power pop" - currently pretty much guarantees the music will have *low* sales (otherwise, hey, the Rooks would be ruling the charts...). So the term "popular" isn't quite as clear, in reference to music, as it might be. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: This album is dedicated to anyone who started out as an animal and :: winds up as a processing unit. :: --Soft Boys, note, _Can of Bees_ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 23:20:13 -0500 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: [none] The rekkids that saved my life: R.E.M. - Green XTC - Oranges & Lemons Robyn Hitchcock 'n' the Egyptians - Queen Elvis King's X - Gretchen Goes To Nebraska Captain Beefheart - Doc At The Radar Station The Residents - The Commercial Album Talk Talk - Spirit Of Eden Robert Wyatt - Old Rottenhat Sonic Youth - Sister Husker Du - Zen Arcade* Elvis Costello & the Attractions - Blood & Chocolate Wire - The Ideal Copy Loudon Wainwright III - I'm Alright Peter Gabriel - So The Choir - Wide-Eyed Wonder Mission Of Burma - Vs. Japan - Tin Drum Daniel Amos - The Alarma Chronicles Frank Zappa - Broadway The Hard Way The Police - Ghost In The Machine The Golden Palominos - Visions Of Excess Pink Floyd - The Final Cut Richard & Linda Thompson - Shoot Out The Lights King Crimson - Discipline Steve Vai - Flex-Able They Might Be Giants - Lincoln Dire Straits - Love Over Gold Eurythmics - Touch Thomas Dolby - The Golden Age Of Wireless (though I agree with the fictionalized uber-version proposed earlier) Kate Bush - The Sensual World The Pretenders - Learning To Crawl (if I could just vote for album sides, Side 1 would rool over alles) Van Halen - 1984 (that's right, I said it!) Run-DMC - Raising Hell The Pixies - Surfer Rosa Metallica - Master Of Puppets Pete Townshend - All The Best Cowboys Have Chinese Eyes Paolo Conte - Paris Milonga Colin James Hay - Looking For Jack Leonard Cohen - I'm Your Man Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds - Tender Prey U2 - Wide Awake In America Guided By Voices - Self-Inflicted Aerial Nostalgia * if this were a measure of singles, "Eight Miles High" would rool over all, in tandem with "Come On Eileen".. - -- dolph p.s.: if the above makes you want to form a band, I'm looking for collaborators. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 21:34:03 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: 80s Dolph: >R.E.M. - Green >Robyn Hitchcock 'n' the Egyptians - Queen Elvis >Kate Bush - The Sensual World >Van Halen - 1984 (that's right, I said it!) Not only *that*, but you also said albums by *Colin Hay and Steve Vai*, and picked really disappointing albums by R.E.M., Robyn and Kate Bush over far better ones. ;) Rex loves Live Skull...who da thunk it? And Ken actually likes the Proclaimers.! Incidentally, in the category of Worst Sex Lyric Ever, I'd like to submit this line from the new DreamWorks album by a R&B duo called JS: "Can you feel my pelvis rolling?" Oh lorrrrdy. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:09:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: The peanut gallery speaks On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Eb wrote: > Damn those R.E.M. boys. Why didn't they quit when they were ahead? > They're tarnishing their legacy, at this point. I recall clearly (though the sources are totally vague in my mind) R.E.M. making two statements about their inevitable dissolution as a band. 1) They were always a completely consentual affair with unanimous decision-making and agreed that if any one of them stopped participating, it couldn't continue to be R.E.M. 2) They said that they would break up on New Year's Eve 2000 at the very latest because they were a 20th century band and couldn't stand the idea of becoming rock dinosaurs. I'd be happy if they'd taken EITHER road... anything but the misery that followed. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:12:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Now coming to a VH-1 perversion near you The B-52's/Wild Planet Bauhaus/The Sky's Gone Out The Beat/I Just Can't Stop It The Beautiful South/Welcome to The Beautiful South Camper Van Beethoven/Telephone Free Landslide Victory Lloyd Cole & The Commotions/Rattlesnakes Elvis Costello & The Attractions/Get Happy!! Cowboy Junkies/The Trinity Session Crowded House/Temple of Low Men The Cure/Disintegration Depeche Mode/Black Celebration Echo & The Bunnymen/Ocean Rain Peter Gabriel (melt) Jane's Addiction/Nothings Shocking The Jesus & Mary Chain/Automatic Joy Division/Closer Love & Rockets/Earth * Sun * Moon Ministry/The Land of Rape & Honey New Order/Brotherhood Sinead O'Connor/The Lion & The Cobra Pet Shop Boys/Actually Pixies/Doolittle Pretenders/Learning to Crawl Public Image Ltd./Happy? R.E.M./Document The Replacements/Pleased to Meet Me Paul Simon/Graceland Siouxsie & The Banshees/A Kiss in the Dreamhouse The Smiths/Strangeways, Here We Come The Soft Boys/Underwater Moonlight Sonic Youth/Daydream Nation The Stone Roses The Sugarcubes/Life's Too Good Talking Heads/Remain in Light The The/Mind Bomb Richard & Linda Thompson/Shoot Out the Lights Throwing Muses U2/The Unforgettable Fire Violent Femmes XTC/Skylarking Artists who (because I cant really say I have a definitive favorite 80s album fell by the wayside) whose absence irritates me the most: X, The Go-Betweens, Husker Du/Bob Mould, The Psychedelic Furs, Tom Waits, Brian Eno, Yazoo/Erasure. Robyn solo excised due to presence of Soft Boys and need to keep other people in; same with Split Enz/Crowded House, Morrissey/Smiths, etc. London Calling and Second Edition are 70s albums dammit!!!! Closest calls were which R.E.M. (could have easily been Lifes Rich Pageant or Chronic Town), JAMC (Darklands), Love and Rockets (Seventh Dream of Teenage Heaven), New Order (Low-life), and The Emotional Toothpaste (Imperial Bedroom, King of America, Spike). ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is they're too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #315 ********************************