From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #314 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, August 21 2003 Volume 12 : Number 314 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Mine would probably be.... [Eb ] Re: Michael Bachman rules the Universe RH 50% ["Stewart C. Russell" ] "working in the halls of shame" ["Natalie Jane" ] bustin' 40 80s ["ross taylor" ] Re: Best headline of the year ["Glen Uber" ] Re: Boy, I tell ya/state of the art/top 40s [grutness@surf4nix.com (James] Re: Boy, I tell ya [Eb ] Speak of the World-Devouring Devil ["Rex.Broome" ] more dubious performance art [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: okay you started it... [Michael R Godwin ] Re: SATs [Michael R Godwin ] Re: okay you started it... [Michael R Godwin ] wow... [grutness@surf4nix.com] New Wave photos galore ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: New Wave photos galore ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: New Wave photos galore [Capuchin ] Re: New Wave photos galore [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] RE: Mine would probably be.... ["Iosso, Ken" ] RE: New Wave photos galore ["Bachman, Michael" Subject: Mine would probably be.... 10,000 Maniacs In My Tribe Adrian Belew Twang Bar King Brian Eno/David Byrne My Life in the Bush of Ghosts Brian Eno/Roger Eno/Daniel Lanois Apollo Atmospheres and Soundtracks Camper Van Beethoven Our Beloved Revolutionary Sweetheart Captain Beefheart & the Magic Band Doc at the Radar Station David Bowie Scary Monsters David Byrne The Catherine Wheel Elvis Costello & the Attractions Imperial Bedroom Genesis Duke H|sker D| Flip Your Wig John Lennon & Yoko Ono Double Fantasy John Zorn The Big Gundown Kate Bush The Dreaming King Crimson Discipline Laurie Anderson United States Live Lou Reed The Blue Mask Minutemen Double Nickels on the Dime My Bloody Valentine Isn't Anything Paul Simon Graceland Pere Ubu The Tenement Year Peter Gabriel Security Pixies Doolittle Pretenders Pretenders Public Image Limited Second Edition (blahblah, copyright issues, blahblahblah) R.E.M. Life's Rich Pageant Robyn Hitchcock I Often Dream of Trains Sam Phillips The Indescribable Wow Scraping Foetus Off the Wheel Hole Sonic Youth Sister Steve Reich The Desert Music Talking Heads Remain in Light The dB's Repercussion The Jesus & Mary Chain Psychocandy The Pogues If I Should Fall from Grace with God The Replacements Let It Be The Soft Boys Underwater Moonlight Thin White Rope Moonhead Tom Waits Rain Dogs XTC Skylarking ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 13:55:25 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Michael Bachman rules the Universe RH 50% woj wrote: > > anyone manage to get it? no, but Resonance strike me as the kind of place you could ask, and they'd most likely have it squirrelled away somewhere. They're not your average radio station. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:42:58 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Feets don't fail me now gSs: >>do you think most fegmen are on the apparently small list of men who do >>not favor large breasts? Don't know for sure, but the sporadic lists of feg fantasy fux haven't been featured many of the big-busted favorites of the Average American Male (your Pam Andersons, Playboy centerfolds, etc.) >>feet are cool. get yer old lady to wash and then massage your feet. I dunno. I have minor feet issues. Various people have told me that that's a typical Pisces trait... we supposedly are either obsessed with shoes and have way too many (probably the fate of my Pisces daughter, the way things look) or hate and resent shoes in general, preferring to have only one pair at a time and really favor going barefoot when possible (that'd be me). Not putting much stock in Astrology myself, I think it's rooted in the fact that I wore shoes that were way too small for me when I was a kid, because I never realized when they got too small. I thought shoes were designed to hurt, so I just assumed everything was normal. As to what I have learned today... apparently I need a copy of the that Lloyd Cole "Rattlesnakes" album. Ross: >>john cale - carribean sunset Gah... one of the very few Cale LP's I don't have, what with the unavailable on CD thing. Really the best one of the decade, you think? - -Rex np. some weird string quartet version of Love Will Tear Us Apart... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:43:11 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: "working in the halls of shame" >Natalie: > >>I've only been into alt-country since I bought that $10 copy of >"Anodyne" > >>in December of last year. I didn't even leaf through a copy of "No >Depression" till a few months ago. > >Really??? That's... well... really? Wow, you don't go into anything >halfway, >huh? So... previous to this epiphany, what did you think of the non-alt >kind of country? And what do you make of it now? I'm fascinated by this >whole idea... Let's see... I always liked Johnny Cash and Patsy Cline... I thought it was OK but not that exciting. I never hated it the way some people do (like my friend Nefi who believes sincerely that it's "not music") but I was never really into it either. A short history of my epiphany: I got into Wilco via "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot" but refused to buy their alt-country albums or any Uncle Tupelo albums because "I don't like alt-country." But I finally did buy "Being There" and thought it was pretty good. Then last year sister's friend Dora convinced me to by Uncle Tupelo's "Anodyne" and, seeing it at Amoeba Records, I picked it up and from the first notes of the opening song ("Slate"), I was totally hooked. That was the song that really did it for me. In other words, it's all Dora's and Jay Farrar's fault. I still am not really all that into non-alt country, but I like it OK - I like alt-country better, though. I'm find alt-country to be still enjoyable but extremely limited as a musical form... it's no wonder the musical landscape is littered with ex-alt-country bands (Wilco being a primary example). I'm puzzled by Postcard types who listen to nothing but alt-country... they must have a longer attention span or more tolerance for repetition than me. Anyway, n. np: Jim O'Rourke, "Bad Timing" _________________________________________________________________ Help protect your PC: Get a free online virus scan at McAfee.com. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 13:03:31 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Best headline of the year http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/28/32411.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 16:32:02 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: bustin' 40 80s various other people-- >pixies -- I knew I'd forget one! Guess mine would be Doolittle (but I liked '90s Bossanova better). Don't know what it would bump. Please note my new address. I dumped the old one because the ashtray was full (old joke about cars). Ross Taylor "if I'm wrong, I can always be corrected on the internet" -- Neil Young Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 13:41:53 -0700 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: Re: Best headline of the year Tom earnestly scribbled: >http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/28/32411.html This has Fark written all over it. - -- Cheers! - -g- "Work is the curse of the drinking class." - --Oscar Wilde ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:44:34 -0500 From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: Eb's Fourteen Toes and the big fat ass eb writed: >> but of course oral sex goes well with lots of things. > > Not sky-diving, though. You're *obviously* not doing it right. Sheesh. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:42:09 -0700 From: Eb Subject: REAP! AP BURBANK, Calif. - Enrique Iglesias is missing something, and some of his best friends didn't even notice. The Latin crooner had his trademark mole removed recently after a doctor told him it could lead to cancer, he told "Access Hollywood." He wasn't looking to have it removed but didn't have an emotional attachment to it, especially after the doctor's news, he said. Iglesias said he hates doctors and knives, so when it was time to remove it, he panicked at the sight of blood, and said he thought the doctor was going to poke his eye out. The procedure took about 5 minutes. Iglesias has been nominated for a Grammy in the best male pop vocal album category for his "Quizas" record. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 11:22:43 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Boy, I tell ya/state of the art/top 40s >> > 47:19 today. 20 seconds slower than two days ago. I figured that dip is >>> due to a) taking a day off b) running with a flapping shoelace for the >>> last 2.5 miles. I should be able to beat 46:59 tomorrow. >> >>Well, keep your chin up, kid. >> >>I know it sounds crazy now, but in a year or two you might be able to do >>TWO miles in that time. > >Just for the sake of clarity amidst this snafu, be advised that the >47:19/46:59 times were for a 5.5-mile run. I once did 40:30 for a 4.8 mile fun-run (now *there's* a contradiction in terms). But that was when I was young, fit, and foolish. Jogging to wherte the car's parked is probably beyond me these days. - --- >I believe one person wrote "The creme-de-la-creme is nothing but the >thickest clots that rise to the top." (or words to that effect) during our debates, I think that was me. But it wasn't original (I suspect it's originally a Peter Cook/Dudley Moore line, but I've no evidence for that) - --- MB wrote: >Richard and Linda Thompson Shoot Out The Lights >The Bangles All Over the Place dammit - I knoew I'd miss some. Meanwhile, Ross said: >"hit me with your rhythm stick! Hit me! Hit me! >two fat nurses, click click click! Hit me! Hit me!" Both the Blockheads and the Chills (Kaleidoscope World) would have been on the list if I'd included retrospective best-ofs. Echo & the Bunnymen's "Songs to learn and sing" woul've made it too. Then Jason (a) added: >Crowded House - Crowded House >Eno, Brian - Apollo: Atmospheres & Soundtracks And Jason (b) added: >The Pogues Rum Sodomy & The Lash >They Might Be Giants - Lincoln sigh. Perhaps I should start again. Reading some of these lists I can definitely see myself hanging out at a party with a few of you folk. Good taste. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 16:47:31 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Boy, I tell ya >I once did 40:30 for a 4.8 mile fun-run (now *there's* a > >contradiction in terms). But that was when I was young, fit >>and foolish. I recall running in a community 10K when I was 14ish (?), without training for it at *all*, and finishing in just over a hour. Now, after about 17 months of disciplined running, I can beat that time by a mere seven minutes or so. Sheesh. :) Meanwhile, the ever-heralded Lawndart likes to taunt me by smirking about how he ran a 5K in 22 minutes at the age of 12 -- a time which I'm still nowhere near capable of matching. :) (Actually, my 5K time has gotten *worse* in recent months, because my body's more calibrated for longer distances now.) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 17:26:46 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Speak of the World-Devouring Devil Hmmm... yesterday on this list I mentioned (and in fact thought of for the first time in years) the Fantastic Four villain Galactus. And now look what's happened. http://www.theonion.com/onion3932/california_recall.html - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 21:05:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: list help I know I forwarded my cdr list to some people recently. Can some kind soul email it back to me? my HD decided it needed a permanent rest. mucho appreciated. Mike ps - Boobs. ===== - --------------------------------------------- Rebuilding my websight: http://www34.brinkster.com/bflomidy/ _____________________________________________ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 00:52:40 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: more dubious performance art Must be something about pianos... Anyway, I thought that a Grand Piano Demolition Derby would be a fun idea. The pianos are fitted with numerous contact mics (as well as a non-mic'd, sound-buffered motor, so they can be driven about), and the well-padded drivers drive them about in demo derby style - of course, the sounds are mixed and amplified. If we want, we can toss in some electric guitar missiles...preferably with some sort of wind-driven plectrum device similar to the way kids put cards in bicycle spokes, and "wings" mounted so they can slide along beneath the strings and change the pitch. No, I'm not sure that I do have anything better to do. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: it's not your meat :: --Mr. Toad np: _I Put on My Robe and Wizard Hat: Porn Prog from Genital Giant_ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:31:28 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: okay you started it... On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, ross taylor wrote: > "hit me with your rhythm stick! Hit me! Hit me! > two fat nurses, click click click! Hit me! Hit me!" Parsons, surely? - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:52:02 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: SATs Hi Marcy Just saw your letter in Tuesday's 'Independent'! It took me all this time to spot it because there was no "RH=0%" heading at the top. Well done! - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 11:48:32 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: okay you started it... > On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, ross taylor wrote: > > "hit me with your rhythm stick! Hit me! Hit me! > > two fat nurses, click click click! Hit me! Hit me!" On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Michael R Godwin wrote: > Parsons, surely? Doubts have set in since I saw that: gives "persons" and not "parsons". Have I been mis-hearing this for 20 years? - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 00:48:40 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com Subject: wow... Just had a fairly sizable "California event" here. Long steady rumble for about 80 seconds - the house felt like it was a small boat on a gently undulating sea. What's worse, it was probably my fault. I was listening to Metallica at midnight - did I accudentally wake Cthulhu? James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 09:15:41 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: New Wave photos galore Here9s a great site to kill a few quality hours at work: There9s even pictures of some band called XTC actually playing live, in front of real people. I had no idea they ever did that. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 07:56:30 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: New Wave photos galore At 09:15 AM 8/21/2003 -0500, Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: >There9s even pictures of some band called XTC actually playing live, in >front of real people. I had no idea they ever did that. Their last live show was here in San Diego in 1982 at the now boarded-up California Theatre. Sadly, I wasn't living here at the time. Partridge freaked out after this show and cancelled the next night's show in LA. I did see Peter Murphy and 10,000 Maniacs and probably a few other bands at the California back when it was still in business. It's currently for sale, or at least was as of a few months ago, if any of you ultra-wealthy XTC fans want to pick up a bit of XTC-history. Marc, if you're listening, it's right down the block from the "4th and B" venue where we saw Liz Phair and the Flaming Lips. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 08:46:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: New Wave photos galore On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > Here9s a great site to kill a few quality hours at work: > Their "Violent Femmes" page can't possibly be the boys from Milwaukee, can it? I feel like a stroke victim or something. > There9s even pictures of some band called XTC actually playing live, in > front of real people. I had no idea they ever did that. Golly, ain't you never seen Urgh! A Music War? (And isn't there an anagram in there?) J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 11:15:36 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: New Wave photos galore Quoting Capuchin : > On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > > Here9s a great site to kill a few quality hours at work: > > > > Their "Violent Femmes" page can't possibly be the boys from Milwaukee, > can > it? I feel like a stroke victim or something. It's not. You can cancel your medical appointment. I wrote the guy a letter: oddly, one of the two guys pictured as the "Violent Femmes" looks familiar to me...he was a guy in a contemporary Milwaukee band (Colour Radio, maybe?), and I'm thinking maybe the photo guy's filing system got messed up, and perhaps Kenny Baldwin's band (I think that's his name) opened for the Femmes. I dropped him an e-mail, though. ..Jeff, who, yeah, saw the Femmes way back in the day, and lived in the same house w/a guy who went to high school w/Gordon Gano. Bustin' those forties! J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: we make everything you need, and you need everything we make ps: Hard to believe, given gnat's hopes for the term, that already one of the California gubernatorial goobers has adopted it as a name: Cruz Bustaforte. I think that's right... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 11:55:08 -0500 From: "Iosso, Ken" Subject: RE: Mine would probably be.... A couple of mild debates which I have satisfied as best I can: London Calling was released in December of '79, but needles to say was mostly listened to in the '80s - and even called the best album of the '80s by The Rolling Stone. Good enough for them - good enough for me. Kaleidoscope World is a singles collection, but there is no album from this period that I'm aware of and, like London Calling, it's so damned great and so perfectly representative of a truly great band of the '80s that it must be included. Argue if you like but I'm sticking my fingers in my ears and humming loudly. Loved everyone's lists. They bring back stories and situations I had forgotten. Listened to the dBs this morning - How Great!!! King Sunny Ade - Juju Music Billy Bragg - Talking to the Taxman about Poetry The Chills - Kaleidoscope World The Clash - London Calling Elvis Costello & the Attractions - Imperial Bedroom The Cure - Head on the Door De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising Dinosaur Jr - You're Living All Over Me The (English) Beat - Just Can't Stop It Husker Du - Flip Your Wig The Feelies - Crazy Rhythms The Jayhawks - Blue Earth Bob Marley - Uprising Meat Puppets - Up On the Sun Bob Mould - Workbook Van Morrison - Irish Heartbeat Paul Simon - Graceland Pixies - Doolittle Pretenders R.E.M. - Murmur Robyn Hitchcock - I Often Dream of Trains Sugarcubes - Life's Too Good Talking Heads - Remain in Light The dB's - Stands for Decibels The Pogues - Rum, Sodomy, & the Lash Prince - Purple Rain The Proclaimers - Sunshine on Leith Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions Bonnie Raitt - Nick of Time The Replacements - Let It Be Jonathan Richman - Jonathan Sings The Roches - Keep On Doing The Smiths Soft Boys - Underwater Moonlight Bruce Springsteen - Nebraska Talking Heads - Remain in Light Richard and Linda Thompson - Shoot Out the Lights Violent Femmes Tom Waits - Rain Dogs X - Under the Big Black Sun XTC - Skylarking Ken Iosso - -----Original Message----- From: Eb [mailto:ElBroome@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:51 PM To: fgz Subject: Mine would probably be.... 10,000 Maniacs In My Tribe Adrian Belew Twang Bar King Brian Eno/David Byrne My Life in the Bush of Ghosts Brian Eno/Roger Eno/Daniel Lanois Apollo Atmospheres and Soundtracks Camper Van Beethoven Our Beloved Revolutionary Sweetheart Captain Beefheart & the Magic Band Doc at the Radar Station David Bowie Scary Monsters David Byrne The Catherine Wheel Elvis Costello & the Attractions Imperial Bedroom Genesis Duke H|sker D| Flip Your Wig John Lennon & Yoko Ono Double Fantasy John Zorn The Big Gundown Kate Bush The Dreaming King Crimson Discipline Laurie Anderson United States Live Lou Reed The Blue Mask Minutemen Double Nickels on the Dime My Bloody Valentine Isn't Anything Paul Simon Graceland Pere Ubu The Tenement Year Peter Gabriel Security Pixies Doolittle Pretenders Pretenders Public Image Limited Second Edition (blahblah, copyright issues, blahblahblah) R.E.M. Life's Rich Pageant Robyn Hitchcock I Often Dream of Trains Sam Phillips The Indescribable Wow Scraping Foetus Off the Wheel Hole Sonic Youth Sister Steve Reich The Desert Music Talking Heads Remain in Light The dB's Repercussion The Jesus & Mary Chain Psychocandy The Pogues If I Should Fall from Grace with God The Replacements Let It Be The Soft Boys Underwater Moonlight Thin White Rope Moonhead Tom Waits Rain Dogs XTC Skylarking ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:05:51 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: New Wave photos galore At 09:15 AM 8/21/2003 -0500, Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: >There9s even pictures of some band called XTC actually playing live, in >front of real people. I had no idea they ever did that. Which brings us back again to URGH! A MUSIC WAR, which had XTC performing live back in 1980/1981 along with Au Pairs, Gang of Four, Go-Go's, The Police, Echo and The Bunneymen, etc. I am still holding on to my VHS tape. One of these days I am hoping that a DVD will be issued. Michael B. NP Kathleen Edwards Failer ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #314 ********************************