From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #311 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, August 18 2003 Volume 12 : Number 311 Today's Subjects: ----------------- more elephants (but no Elephant 6) ["Natalie Jane" ] buddy, can you spare an elephant? [Miles Goosens ] Re: Eyeroll Induction Hour ["Jonathan Fetter" ] Archtoplessness ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: Eyeroll Induction Hour [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: Archtoplessness [Eb ] Re: Archtoplessness [Tom Clark ] Re: Archtoplessness [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: Look what you've started now [Groove Puppy ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 13:29:09 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: more elephants (but no Elephant 6) >Natalie, I'm not sure what surprises me more -- that you had such a >negative reaction to Buddy Miller, or that you didn't know who he was. Why would I know who he was? My friend really hated him - she said he sounded like the sort of band that played at her family's weddings. I didn't really care one way or the other, I was too traumatized by watching the line-dancing. >Neko showed her displeasure by *removing her top* and then stalking >offstage. Man, if they ever do >invent the Wayback Machine, screw seeing >Hendrix, I'm headed straight for this show... I'm quite certain she was wearing a bra, from accounts I've read, anyway. >Oh, and the elephant's name is Packy, not "Paki" (which is a racial >epithet whence I come). OOPS! Yikes, my face is very red. Packy, of course. There's even a mural of him next to the Burnside Bridge in Portland. n. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 18:08:10 -0700 From: "da9ve stovall" Subject: RE: elephants that taste bad From: "Natalie Jane" >Buddy turned out to be >a grizzled old dude fronting a very run-of-the-mill country band. ... We went to look at the >elephants, and saw one of the male elephants swaying more or less in time to >the music and apparently digging it. All I can say is, elephants have bad >taste. > Maybe so, but their OWN albums are much more avant garde: http://www.mulatta.org/Thaielephantorch.html http://tinyurl.com/kb8a >This has to be one of the weirder places I've seen a show, if not >the weirdest - >in a small outdoor amphitheater behind the elephant enclosure at the >Oregon Zoo. I have a tape (live recording/boot/whatever) of Bruce Cockburn playing in a zoo. And he did indeed whip out "Wondering Where the Lions Are." da9ve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 23:57:52 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: buddy, can you spare an elephant? Me, then Natalie: >>Natalie, I'm not sure what surprises me more -- that you had such a >>negative reaction to Buddy Miller, or that you didn't know who he was. > >Why would I know who he was? Because of your interest in alt-country, and because there was a moment in late 2001 and early 2002 when I couldn't open an e-mail or pick up a music magazine without reading something about Buddy and Julie's album, so I thought Buddy had become, if anything, overexposed! Buddy and Julie's website isn't the prettiest thing in the world, but you can get some idea of the extensiveness of Buddy's credits at (it's a cut and paste of a publicity thing for Buddy's latest album, so it's more than a bit PR-heavy, but a lot of the key facts are there) and at . >My friend really hated him - she said he >sounded like the sort of band that played at her family's weddings. I >didn't really care one way or the other, I was too traumatized by watching >the line-dancing. Huh. And again, can't believe the mofo guitar work was in abeyance, but maybe it was the mother of off-nights for Buddy. Dunno. >>Neko showed her displeasure by *removing her top* and then stalking >>offstage. Man, if they ever do >invent the Wayback Machine, screw seeing >>Hendrix, I'm headed straight for this show... > >I'm quite certain she was wearing a bra, from accounts I've read, anyway. Yeah, and sure, there's already the Kutie pics to show us most portions of Ms. Case's anatomy, but (1) it was her, and (2) it was a spontaneous display of her. Surely the appeal of this is not lost on the jury? I can't believe Eb actually seriously discussed my Hendrix vs. exposed Neko throwaway line. Though I've heard they often ring true.* later, Miles *Throwaway lines, that is. I don't know if Neko's breasts emitted noises or did tricks or anything. I wasn't there. Dammit. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 10:34:36 +0100 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Pissing off John Cale (Paris 1991) I know it says specifically in the fegrules that me too posts are frowned upon, but me too! My Paris 1991 story takes in sleeping rough, the late Jim Morrison, a nice lady from Palo Alto, a boule yard and a cast of hundreds if not thousands... how about you Rex? Cheers Matt >From: "Rex.Broome" >-Rex > >*It's often occurred to me that I could legitimately write an >autobiographical song called "Paris 1991" and see how many people got pissed >at me for screwing up a perfectly good John Cale tune. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Enjoy a faster internet experience when you sign up for a FREE BT Broadband connection! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 15:20:32 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Eyeroll Induction Hour On Fri, 15 Aug 2003, Rex.Broome wrote: > I think I lack context for Japan... what the hell *kind* of band > was it? I don't need a lame genre tag, just a description that might be > useful to someone like, er, me. The only time I saw Japan was when they were supporting the Blue Oyster Cult on 27th April 1978. Needless to say they did not impress the art-metal audience very much. From what little I recall of the occasion, they came over as a posey Roxy Music-derived outfit. On Sat, 16 Aug 2003, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > It was almost worth it to see the Milky Way so bright in an urban area > on Thursday night. Interesting TV prog the other night putting forward the view that the goddess Nut, who swallows the sun every night and gives birth to it again the following day, is actually a representation of the Milky Way. I was convinced, any road! On Sat, 16 Aug 2003, Capuchin wrote: > Oh, and the elephant's name is Packy, not "Paki" (which is a racial epithet whence I come). Almost certainly short for 'pachyderm', an outmoded zoological classification for thick-skinned mammals. > I believe, for some reason, that in addition to being the zoo's > first-born elephant, Packy is the first captivity-born elephant > anywhere. No, it's not that rare, but it is unusual. Only 12 born in captivity since 1978 are still living, according to: - - Mike Godwin n.p. Night Bird Flying, Jimi Hendrix ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:14:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Re: Eyeroll Induction Hour > On Sat, 16 Aug 2003, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > > It was almost worth it to see the Milky Way so bright in an urban area > > on Thursday night. > > Interesting TV prog the other night putting forward the view that the > goddess Nut, who swallows the sun every night and gives birth to it again > the following day, is actually a representation of the Milky Way. I was > convinced, any road! I think this gave rise to calling the Milky Way the "Backbone of the Night" by the Egyptians, least I think that's the reason Carl Sagan gave. Jon, who lives in the country but still can't see the Milky Way becasue of light pollution ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 10:40:10 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Archtoplessness Glen: >>Diana Ross' voice is like fingernails on a chalkboard. She visited one of our facilities a few weeks ago (she stores her touring gear with us), but I didn't get to meet her. My supervisor did, and he reported that she seemed far less insane than he had expected. ____ Eb: >>Also, I'm pretty sure that *Love* was the first "challenging" act signed >>to Elektra, not the Doors. Others have been mentioned, but I was thinking in the "dangerous rock realm", in which Love pretty much qualifies... although in retrospect they remain relatively obscure and I don't think they really majorly "broke through" at the time. "Forever Changes" is ranked as a classic by critics and music nerds, but even their biggest "hits" are hardly classic rock staples. ____ Nat: >>The crowd really ate it up, though, and I was astonished - being a >>nice Jewish girl from a college town - to see people line-dancing. Hey, I'm a gen-yoo-wine small-town country boy, and I would've been astonished by that. Line-dancing is a *way* modern contrivance and I don't so much get it. I mean, basically, from the day I was born up into the mid '80's I saw country bands in dive bars at least once a week, and I never once saw *anyone* line-dance. The occasional idiosyncratic two-step, sure, but as far as I can tell line-dancing came in with Garth Brooks and that achey-breaky bullshit... which is definitely not the vein of country mined by those would serve it up alt-style. Weird. >>She played nothing but 4-stringed guitars - - tenor guitars, I assumed, >>ye different ones, two electric ones (one of which appeared to be an >>SG knock-off) and an acoustic one. Did she mention whether or not she tunes it tenor-style or does it the wood-hick way: just like the high strings or a regular guitar? ____ Miles then Eb: >>>Neko showed her displeasure by *removing her top* and then stalking >>>offstage. Man, if they ever do invent the Wayback Machine, screw >>>seeing Hendrix, I'm headed straight for this show... >>Jeez, dude...she was presumably wearing a bra underneath, right? Hmmm. I'm just not sure what makes you assume that; maybe you hang out with a different kind of woman than I do. But, although going topless is indeed an odd form of protest, it would be odder still if you were flashing a bra and not, you know, the goods. It's rock and roll, not women's soccer. ________ Jeff D: >>According to an article in the Friday Timeout Section of >>the CocoTimes about Eugene Levy, SCTV is scheduled to be >>released on DVD in January 2004. Schweeeeet. - -Rex "as a comic in all seriousness" Broome ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:40:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Eyeroll Induction Hour On Mon, 18 Aug 2003, Michael R Godwin wrote: > On Fri, 15 Aug 2003, Rex.Broome wrote: > > I think I lack context for Japan... what the hell *kind* of band > > The only time I saw Japan was when they were supporting the Blue Oyster > Cult on 27th April 1978. > > Needless to say they did not impress the art-metal audience very much. > >From what little I recall of the occasion, they came over as a posey Roxy > Music-derived outfit. That was pretty early on for them, when they *were* fairly derivative. But even then they didn't actually sound like Roxy (I'd never confuse the two bands). But, uh, that is a rather odd bill - although it's actually too bad you don't see weird pairings like that anymore. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::Drive ten thousand miles across America and you will know more about ::the country than all the institutes of sociology and political science ::put together. __Jean Baudrillard__ np: some NRBQ collection - I forget the title... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 12:15:30 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Archtoplessness > >>Also, I'm pretty sure that *Love* was the first "challenging" act signed >>>to Elektra, not the Doors. > >Others have been mentioned, but I was thinking in the "dangerous rock >realm", in which Love pretty much qualifies... although in retrospect they >remain relatively obscure and I don't think they really majorly "broke >through" at the time. "Forever Changes" is ranked as a classic by critics >and music nerds, but even their biggest "hits" are hardly classic rock >staples. All the more reason to conclude Love was "challenging." Who claimed that Love ever "broke through"? That wasn't even an issue. Speaking of Love, did everyone hear the deal about Courtney Love discovering her grandfather is *Marlon Brando*? Wild! > >>Jeez, dude...she was presumably wearing a bra underneath, right? > >Hmmm. I'm just not sure what makes you assume that; maybe you hang out with >a different kind of woman than I do. Uhh...yes, it's my impression that most of the women in my milieu are wearing bras. Perhaps it's some peculiar convention limited to Orange County. I do know that all of the local department stores seem to have well-stocked lingerie sections. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:03:03 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Archtoplessness on 8/18/03 12:15 PM, Eb at ElBroome@earthlink.net wrote: > Speaking of Love, did everyone hear the deal about Courtney Love > discovering her grandfather is *Marlon Brando*? Wild! > I read an article that said she had *claimed* that, but it was yet to be proven. She made some allegation about Brando having had a one night stand with her grandmother in the '40s. > I do know that all of the local department stores seem to > have well-stocked lingerie sections. Of course you do! I just saw a commercial for M&M's which had a guy in it who looked remarkably like Thom Yorke. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 15:19:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Archtoplessness On Mon, 18 Aug 2003, Rex.Broome wrote: > Miles then Eb: > >>>Neko showed her displeasure by *removing her top* and then stalking > >>>offstage. Man, if they ever do invent the Wayback Machine, screw > >>>seeing Hendrix, I'm headed straight for this show... > > >>Jeez, dude...she was presumably wearing a bra underneath, right? > > Hmmm. I'm just not sure what makes you assume that; maybe you hang out with > a different kind of woman than I do. But, although going topless is indeed > an odd form of protest, it would be odder still if you were flashing a bra > and not, you know, the goods. It's rock and roll, not women's soccer. We just can't stop talking about breasts around here, can we... - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::You think your country needs you, but you know it never will:: __Elvis Costello__ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 15:21:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Groove Puppy Subject: Re: Look what you've started now On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 AidMerr@aol.com wrote: >> NB - in the Syd Barrett biography you always see in >> bargain buckets in >> indie stores, "Man Who Invented Himself" is listed >> in the "Songs about >> Syd" section. For what that's worth. No idea where >> they got this from >> (and since Robyn was living about 10 minutes walk >> from Syd at the time >> he wrote it, the line "nobody knows where he's >> gone, but he's not here" >> seems particularly inappropriate). > Um, I really don't think that's a comment on his > physical locality, sir. > > Nobody knows where Syd went... not even his mum. > J. I may be wrong but I don't think that's quite true. The Dolly Rocker faq states "Syd Barrett is at home in Cambridgeshire, England." Also, Tim Willis (his biographer) said in interview that he "walked up to his door and knocked on it, without introduction." (H) np 311 "Transistor" ===== CHUCKHOLE All that great punk rock taste with only half the calories. http://clix.to/chuckhole http://www.mp3.com/chuckhole __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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