From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #303 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, August 12 2003 Volume 12 : Number 303 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Ian "the Kenster" Curtis [John Barrington Jones ] Re: [Eb ] more, but shorter this time [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Name-Check Yerself ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: more, but shorter this time ["Glen Uber" ] this is just *wrong* ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Fwd: complainting [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Mountain Goats [Miles Goosens ] Re: Ian "the Kenster" Curtis [Jeff Dwarf ] Say it ain't so! [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Brenda's Iron Sledge ["Matt Sewell" ] Re: a meme for you (since the list seems slow) ["Matt Sewell" ] RE: more musing (long, but still nowhere near complete) ["Bachman, Michae] Re: QEII, her sledge and another old engine... [Michael R Godwin ] Re: blastworm [Sebastian Hagedorn ] RE: Throwing Muses ["Iosso, Ken" ] Re: Throwing Muses [Michael R Godwin ] more songs about ["ross taylor" ] Re: more musing (long, but still nowhere near complete) [Michael R Godwin] Re: fegmaniax-digest V12 #301 [Colin Campbell ] Re: Obscure Sacramento Robyn Hitchcock-worshipper ["Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Ian "the Kenster" Curtis On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > John Barrington Jones wrote: > > Has anyone ever written a song about Ian Curtis?? > > "Elegia" and "The Him" by New Order. Not "The Perfect > Kiss." Damn! Elegia! How fucking obvious! I can't tell you how many times I've listened to Low-Life (and Elegia) and yet never even made the connection. Thick, =jbj= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:39:01 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: >And lest we forget (though Eb wishes we would) I'm doing me best to forget this thread, altogether. Eb, depressed and cranky today with "post-event letdown" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 11:55:09 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: more, but shorter this time >Back to "songs about": Is "Don't Call Me Mark Chapman" by Julian Cope >cheating? At any rate, his "Wheelbarrow Man" is about his brother, "Bill >Drummond Said" is about the guy from the KLF or whatever, and "Kolley >Kibber's Birthday" references an Elizabethan(?) poet named Colley Cibber. don't forget "Just like Leila Khaled said" >I'm kinda surprised Robyn never wrote or recorded a Lennon tribute >considering what a big fan he is. the whole of "Respect" is dedicated to JL and Raymond Hitchcock. At the danger of compounding this thread any further, has anyone mentioned Billy Bragg's "Levi Stubbs' Tears" yet? Or mentioned that "She said, she said" was about Peter Fonda? Oh, and Hole's "Playing your song" is another Kurt tribute. And, perhaps most fun of all, is Shriekback's tribute to a Beatles album cover - "Beatles Zebra Crossing". >'course the Dead Kennedys put the tribute(?) right in >their name. As did Camper Van Beethoven, Trash Can >Sinatras, Mr T Experience, blah, blah, blah,.... The Verlaines, Jean Paul Sartre Experience, The Dandy Warhols... hell, even the name of the Beatles was partly a tribute to BH and the Crickets. >On the "songs about critics" thread, man, there's gotta be billions of >those. Lester Bangs is probably the champ - although naturally, I can't >think of one of the top of my head. And then there's Trumans Water's "Aroma >of Gina Arnold"... "I rang up Mark Ellen..." >Actually, the self-titled TMBG track brings up another >thread...self-reference in lyrics or titles. Of course, you have things like >"Hey Hey We're the Monkees" - or "Dandy Warhols' TV Theme Song" - or "Julian >H. Cope"...or The Fall's "Mark'll Sink Us" or the lyrics to "Shoulder Pads" >("M.E.S. in shoulder pads...")... oh gawd. "The Monochrome set, I presume". "Glass Onion" by the Beatles (along with "The Ballad of John & Yoko"). "The Toy Love song". Laurie Anderson's "Talk normal". "In the court of the Crimson King". "Have a cigar". The Roches' "We". Hoodoo Gurus' "Let's all turn on". "Haul away", by Split Enz. "The only living boy in New York" and "So long Frank Lloyd Wright" are both Simon and Garfunkel songs written by Paul Simon about Art Garfunkel. "Get down tonight" has 'Shriekback crash-landing on a KC song'. And we all know what Fatboy Slim is doing in Heaven. And isn't 50% of rap self-referential? You want a possible thread? Aussie band Flowers recorded a song called "Icehouse", then changed their name to Icehouse. Anyone else do that? James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 17:21:36 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Name-Check Yerself JeFFrey: >>Dead Kennedys: "California Uber Alles" was done twice, first time >>about Jerry Brown, second time under the apt title "We've Got a >>Bigger Problem Now" about Reagan. If Ahnold gets elected, I think >>Jello should come out of retirement to redo it again... Also remade inna hip-hop (sic) stylee by the Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy to refer to Pete Wilson. I saw them do it live while opening for Billy Bragg, and it was cool, but the band was otherwise insufferable (which is pretty much how I find all of Michael Franti's music, however well-intentioned). ______ Aaron: >>"I Killed Christgau With My Big Fucking Dick" by Sonic Youth, >>unless that's a joke -- I've never heard it, just heard the title dropped >>in conversation. I actually researched this at one point (don't ask) and it turns out to have been a temporary retitle of one of their "real" songs. "Brother James", I think, but don't quote me. It was how Thurston introduced the song for a few months so it appears as such on early set lists. ______ Jeffrey >>Actually, the self-titled TMBG track brings up another thread...self-reference in lyrics or titles. Of course, you have things like "Hey Hey We're the Monkees" - or "Dandy Warhols' TV Theme Song" - or "Julian H. Cope"...or The Fall's "Mark'll Sink Us" or the lyrics to "Shoulder Pads" ("M.E.S. in shoulder pads...")... You know... until a few years ago I kept a list of all such songs I came across. I may still have the document on my desktop at home; I'll check. Hip-hop really skews the results. Lots of them, though. I had it divided into titular self-references (Give It to the Soft Boys; Fat Boys Are Back) and lyrical self-references (Robyn she says, you know I don't take sugar; Everbody wang chung tonight). It was huge. And I still notice when this happens, even though I don't update the document any more. ______ Jeff D: >>"Eat for Two"; it's about a pregnant woman, though I don't >>think it's autobiographical (especially since I don't think >>she'd had children by 1989). Stipe did then write "Me in >>Honey" as a response, just because he'd never heard of a >>song written from the male POV about a pregnancy. I wouldn't advocate this, but this example also belongs in the thread called "What Songs That Suck Ass Inspired Other Songs That Are Good?" ____ James: >>Andy is also, along with Brian Eno, the >>muse of XTC's "Battery Brides (Andy paints Brian)" Oh, and there's "When Eno Sings" by the Jazz Butcher. >>Weren'ty "God only knows" and "Long may you run" both written about a >>car that one of the Wilson Brothers bought off Neil Young? The latter for sure. I'd never heard that about "God Only Knows"... all the stuff I've ever read about that tunes can't get past the ground-breaking secular use of the word "God" in a single, and you know what, although I can't think of a prior example, I'm almost sure that there was one. Anyhow... speaking of Neil, one should also mention "The Needle & the Damage Done" for Danny Whitten, "Tonight's the Night" for Bruce Berry, "Unknown Legend" for his wife Pegi, "Hippie Dream" for Crosby, "Thrasher" for CSN (prolly); "A Man Needs a Maid" for (or at least partly about) Carrie Snodgress; "Drive By" which I think was about a friend's daughter who died in one; "Transformer Man" about Neil's (autistic?) son and his attempts to communicate with him. Anyhow. - -Rex "I Was Waiting for the Soft Boys, Solpadeine" Broome ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 17:11:49 -0700 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: Re: more, but shorter this time James Dignan earnestly scribbled: >>Actually, the self-titled TMBG track brings up another >>thread...self-reference in lyrics or titles. Of course, you have things like >>"Hey Hey We're the Monkees" - or "Dandy Warhols' TV Theme Song" - or "Julian >>H. Cope"...or The Fall's "Mark'll Sink Us" or the lyrics to "Shoulder Pads" >>("M.E.S. in shoulder pads...")... > >oh gawd. "The Monochrome set, I presume". "Glass Onion" by the Beatles >(along with "The Ballad of John & Yoko"). "The Toy Love song". Laurie >Anderson's "Talk normal". "In the court of the Crimson King". "Have a >cigar". The Roches' "We". Hoodoo Gurus' "Let's all turn on". "Haul away", >by Split Enz. "The only living boy in New York" and "So long Frank Lloyd >Wright" are both Simon and Garfunkel songs written by Paul Simon about Art >Garfunkel. "Get down tonight" has 'Shriekback crash-landing on a KC song'. >And we all know what Fatboy Slim is doing in Heaven. "Wild, Wild West" by Escape Club "Everybody Have Fun Tonight" by Wang Chung "My Wife and My Dead Wife" by Robyn Hitchcock "Rock Me" by Liz Phair "Smokin' In The Boys Room" by Motley Crue "You Never Even Call Me By My Name" by David Allen Coe "Partners, Brothers and Friends" by Nitty Gritty Dirt Band "Big Bottom" by Spinal Tap ('Big Dave is waiting there inside her tights, yeah!') Paul Simon also references Art Garfunkel in "A Simple Desultory Philipic (Or, How I was Robert McNamara'd Into Submission)" "Bad Company" by Bad Company Kid Rock calls himself out in at least one of his songs (the one that's used in the Coors commercial) Janis Ian had an album called _The Secret Life of J. Eddie Fink_ (her real name). E. John's _Reg Strikes Back_ is kinda the same deal. - -- Cheers! - -g- "You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer." - --Frank Zappa ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 17:16:45 -0700 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: Re: Name-Check Yerself Rex.Broome earnestly scribbled: >I wouldn't advocate this, but this example also belongs in the thread called >"What Songs That Suck Ass Inspired Other Songs That Are Good?" I could probably list a couple of mine here ;) >Oh, and there's "When Eno Sings" by the Jazz Butcher. Not to be confused with "When Smokey Sings" by ABC. And for some reason, that brings to mind the only hit the Commodores had without Lionel Ritchie, "Night Shift" which is about Jackie Wilson and Marvin Gaye. - -- Cheers! - -g- "You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer." - --Frank Zappa ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:07:13 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: this is just *wrong* from : > Art Bikes Workshop: Sat., Aug. 16, 2:00 p.m., Brigantine Tent Artist > Alison Brown works with children to create a kidsb art bike that will > be prized off at the end of the festival weekend. what is it, a limpet? aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh. Stewart (off to play the now-free Glider on the eMac) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:52:03 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Fwd: complainting Quoting "Stewart C. Russell" : > from : > > > Art Bikes Workshop: Sat., Aug. 16, 2:00 p.m., Brigantine Tent Artist > > Alison Brown works with children to create a kidsb art bike that will > > be prized off at the end of the festival weekend. > > what is it, a limpet? Urk! I amused myself by writing the following to the webmasters. I tried not to sound too much like Yoda. - ----- Forwarded message from Jeffrey Norman ----- Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:49:16 -0500 From: Jeffrey Norman Reply-To: Jeffrey Norman Subject: complainting To: info@harbourfront.on.ca You websited thussingly: "Art Bikes Workshop: Sat., Aug. 16, 2:00 p.m., Brigantine Tent Artist Alison Brown works with children to create a kids art bike that will be prized off at the end of the festival weekend." "Prize" doesn't verb in this way; when it's wayed thisly, using it implications that the bike was attached to the kids manneringly. This would be paining for the children, and probably illegals various ordinances as well. Futuring, attention more to grammaticalling. No wronging in "will be given as a prize," is there? ..Jeff - ----- End forwarded message ----- ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: I feel that all movies should have things that happen in them :: --TV's Frank np: Camper Van Beethoven _Telephone Free Landslide Victory_ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 23:24:06 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Mountain Goats Aaron Mandel: >All Hail West Texas felt a >little weak to me, so I guess you could avoid those. Ack! I had given the Mountain Goats a couple of tries before 2002, and while I always enjoyed them, ultimately each album would feel a little samey (perhaps one of the effects of the limited instrumentation) even though I would like most of the individual songs. But then I bought ALL HAIL WEST TEXAS, which connected with me like nothing else Darnielle had written before, sometimes scarily so ("The Mess Inside" - um, does he buy one of those X-10 cameras from a popup ad and have it installed in my house?). TALLAHASSEE was equally brilliant, IMO. I think Darnielle has made a quantum leap in songwriting ability with those two 2002 albums, absolutely smoking all but a the very best of what he'd done before. I've since bought the compilations that Aaron namechecks as the best places to start, and while I'm glad I have them, I think the best place for them would be as part of an iPod/Nomad-type random mix -- I get bored with them after a few songs, same as the other ones. back from St. Louis a bit early and catching up, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 23:03:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Ian "the Kenster" Curtis John Barrington Jones wrote: > On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > > John Barrington Jones wrote: > > > Has anyone ever written a song about Ian Curtis?? > > > > "Elegia" and "The Him" by New Order. Not "The Perfect > > Kiss." > > Damn! Elegia! How fucking obvious! I can't tell you how > many times I've listened to Low-Life (and Elegia) and yet > never even made the connection. To be fair, it's not like there are any words to clue someone in. Actually, I think it's kinda cool that when they decided it was time to do their big Elegy for IC, they left it wordless. ===== "Pentagon officials says Americanizing Iraq is difficult because Iraqis have had little to no reliable information for the past 35 years, and have lived on a diet of innuendo, rumor, conspiracy theories, fear, and propaganda. Sounds like the problem is theyre too Americanized." -- Bill Maher "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:02:21 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Say it ain't so! - --On Dienstag, 12. August 2003 11:16 Uhr +1200 James Dignan wrote: > Weren'ty "God only knows" and "Long may you run" both written about a car > that one of the Wilson Brothers bought off Neil Young? "Long may you run" is about a car and there's the line "Maybe the Beach Boys have got you now", but *please* tell me "God only knows" is about a person, not a car! Are all songs that I thought were great love songs (cf. Your Song) in reality about other weird things, such as parents or cars?? - -- Sebastian Hagedorn PGP key ID: 0x4D105B45 Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156 50823 Kvln http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:11:10 +0100 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Brenda's Iron Sledge Well, it's arguable that BIS is about Thatcher's Britain, but the sledge belongs to Brenda, as satirical-institution-in-magazine-form Private Eye call the Queen... Hey, nice haircut! Cheers Matt >From: Tom Clark > >And "Brenda's Iron Sledge" is about Thatcher, no? > >-tc, now with new haircut - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the brand new MSN Shopping site today for loads of top offers! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:14:24 +0100 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: a meme for you (since the list seems slow) Thanks for that, Nat, but I'm afraid I don't understand your banter... Bustin a 40... you say that this presumably refers to 40 ounces - 40 ounces of what? Cheers Matt, breaking 40 ounces of... something... >From: "Natalie Jane" >So anyway. On another list that I'm on, there's a girl who is >constantly talking about how she was at a show, drinking a beer, and >a semi-well-known musician asked her jokingly if she was "bustin' a >40" (as in a 40-ounce, presumably). She will not shut up about this >- she has it in her signature, brags about it constantly, etc. > >_________________________________________________________________ >STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Be creative - with MSN 8 you can use graphics and photos in your emails ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:25:56 +0100 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: QEII, her sledge and another old engine... Mike, I'm afraid I've just reiterated your post, almost word-for-word, complete with comment on Tom's new haircut! Doh! Ah well, in other news (hopefully of interest to you Mike) I travelled from Minehead to Blue Anchor the other week, on a train pulled by an engine called Dinmore Manor (7820?)... is this one already in your book? Cheers Matt >From: Michael R Godwin >Reply-To: Michael R Godwin >To: Detonating in a Ten Ton Truck >Subject: Re: Throwing Muses >Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 19:25:56 +0100 (BST) > >On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Tom Clark wrote: > > And "Brenda's Iron Sledge" is about Thatcher, no? > >No, we've been round this one before. "Brenda" is standard Private Eye >lingo for Queen Elizabeth II. > > > -tc, now with new haircut > >Mmm, suits you! I mean, you over 40s don't want to choose anything too >juvenile... > > >- MRG - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Be creative - with MSN 8 you can use graphics and photos in your emails ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 11:21:10 +0100 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Obscure Sacramento Robyn Hitchcock-worshipper Heh - Anton Barbeau - my band supported him the other day... I'd recommend him to this list, though I'd say "obscure Sacramento Robyn Hitchcock-worshipper" is a little cruel (even if it did make me snigger). He has some very sharp and very funny songs and is a very nice bloke to boot... Cheers Matt, obscure Oxford Robyn Hitchcock-worshipper... >From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey >The Butthole Surfers have a couple of songs that fit: "Lou Reed" and "Jimi" >(although as far as I can tell, neither is about their eponymous >musicians...although with the Buttholes, who can tell?). Obscure Sacramento >Robyn Hitchcock-worshipper Anton Barbeau has a song that appears to be about >All Music Guide critic Stewart Mason (an acquaintance of mine, actually). > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Protect your PC from e-mail viruses. 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Michael Bachman NP Dr. John Goin' Back To New Orleans ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 14:56:45 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: QEII, her sledge and another old engine... Well, great minds... I have seen Dinmore Manor. I had a great day at the Doncaster 150 years celebrations last month when I spotted three previously unseen steam locos (48151, 63601, 65033)! I'll put photos of them a.s.a.p. See you soon - - Mike On Tue, 12 Aug 2003, Matt Sewell wrote: > > Mike, > > I'm afraid I've just reiterated your post, almost word-for-word, complete > with comment on Tom's new haircut! Doh! > > Ah well, in other news (hopefully of interest to you Mike) I travelled > from Minehead to Blue Anchor the other week, on a train pulled by an > engine called Dinmore Manor (7820?)... is this one already in your book? > > Cheers > > Matt > > >From: Michael R Godwin > > >Reply-To: Michael R Godwin > >To: Detonating in a Ten Ton Truck > >Subject: Re: Throwing Muses > >Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 19:25:56 +0100 (BST) > > > >On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Tom Clark wrote: > > > And "Brenda's Iron Sledge" is about Thatcher, no? > > > >No, we've been round this one before. "Brenda" is standard Private Eye > >lingo for Queen Elizabeth II. > > > > > -tc, now with new haircut > > > >Mmm, suits you! I mean, you over 40s don't want to choose anything too > >juvenile... > > > > > >- MRG > > ________________________________________________________________________________ > Be creative - with MSN 8 you can use graphics and photos in your emails ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:16:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: blastworm I wanted my first post after my absence to be fun, but instead I'll just let Windows users know that we got our first ever virus yesterday, the blastworm virus. It kept shutting our computer down. We did get rid of it (thanks to computer-person husband). Anyone else? Oh, songs written for others. How about The Last of the International Playboys by Morrissey? It's about the Kray twins. Does anyone know whom This Charming Man was written for? Jill, now virus free ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:16:47 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: blastworm - --On Dienstag, 12. August 2003 9:16 Uhr -0400 Jill Brand wrote: > I wanted my first post after my absence to be fun, but instead I'll just > let Windows users know that we got our first ever virus yesterday, the > blastworm virus. It kept shutting our computer down. We did get rid of > it (thanks to computer-person husband). Anyone else? Sure, hundreds of users here at Cologne University ... makes me glad to be a Mac/Solaris/Linux user. How was your trip? - -- Sebastian Hagedorn PGP key ID: 0x4D105B45 Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156 50823 Kvln http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:51:28 -0500 From: "Iosso, Ken" Subject: RE: Throwing Muses American Pie is about Buddy Holly. Ken Iosso Aide to Commissioner Ortega phone 651-266-8367 fax 651-266-8370 -----Original Message----- From: Mike Swedene [mailto:pulp_101@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 4:51 PM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Re: Throwing Muses Allison by the Pixies is about Mos Allison (blues guy) Heather (Obscure Cult Song) about Ian's then gf, now wife. Walk For 2 (10000 Maniacs) alledgedly about Natalie's & Mike Stipe's Love child.... but that remains for DNA tests. enough rumors and Innuendos! Mike __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:14:59 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Throwing Muses On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Mike Swedene wrote: > Allison by the Pixies is about Mos Allison (blues guy) There was a good review of Mose's daughter Amy Allison's new record in the paper this week. Has anyone heard it? - - Mike Godwin n.p. John Mayall - Parchman Farm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 11:16:49 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: more songs about The Nails did songs sort of about Ian Curtis, Jimi Hendrix and Jim Morrisson on an album that overall was about David Koresh ("Sacred Heart"). I've heard that the Stones song "Star Star" aka "Starfucker" was about Carly Simon ("you and me would make a pretty pair ..."). Mojo Nixon did "Debbie Gibson is Pregnant with My Two Headed Love Child" Steve Still's "Johnny's Garden" was about visiting Lennon. The Dead's "Broke Down Palace" was about Garcia's mother. Roger McGuinn's "So Restless" had a verse each addressed to Dylan, Lennon & Jagger. Don McLean's "The Day the Music Died" tells the story of techno, from it's origins with WaxTrax to the decadent failure of big beat (not really). "Back on the Chain Gang" was about the Pretenders' guitarist who died, whose name I forget. Edie Brickell did a song about Edie Sedgewick. Lou Reed's "My House" is about his teacher, poet Delmore Schwartz. Isn't Robyn's "The Lizard" about Morrison? Song references -- betcha can't mention just one! Ross Taylor Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:29:02 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: more musing (long, but still nowhere near complete) > >> And "Brenda's Iron Sledge" is about Thatcher, no? > >No, we've been round this one before. "Brenda" is standard Private Eye > >lingo for Queen Elizabeth II. > On Tue, 12 Aug 2003, James Dignan wrote: > ...and thus "Brenda's sledge" is "Her Majesty's Government". Ergo the song > is about the Thatcher-led conservative government of Britain during the > 80s. No, see the lyric at: http://www.fegmania.org/tabs/bsdr.htm "_All aboard_ Brenda's Iron Sledge" means everybody in the UK is stuck with a rigid setup. Interestingly fegmania has got the next line wrong. It should read: "The ones on top are comfortable, they're sitting on a human chain" i.e. the upper classes oppress the poor bloody infantry. Again this means everyone in the UK. But you can certainly interpret "the ones on top" as the Government if you prefer. The strip cartoon version makes all this clear. Who's got a copy? - - Mike Godwin PS Colley Cibber was an actor, playwright and poet - see n.p. Graham Parker: 'Obsessed with Aretha' ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 11:30:51 -0400 From: Colin Campbell Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V12 #301 Rex.Broome wrote: > we could start with either Aerosmith or Zepplin, then "Aero > Zepplin" by Nirvana; next up "About a Boy" by Patti Smith, then "When She > Sang About Angels" by the Go-Betweens. Can't think of a song about the > Go-Betweens but maybe I'll write one. Wasn't Belle & Sebastian's "Shoot The Sexual Athlete" about the Go-Betweens? Another B&S song, "The Boy With The Arab Strap" is probably about Arab Strap. ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 12:24:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Re: Obscure Sacramento Robyn Hitchcock-worshipper So which of his albums do you recommend? Two years ago Anton was recommended on this list, so I picked up "Waterbugs and Beetles" thinking that with a title like that I couldn't miss. Good rock and roll on that one, but no real hook for me after several listens. Couldn't really figure out the "If you like Robyn you'll like this" connection. So did I choose poorly, or are all of his albums in that vein and just my personal taste? Jon On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 11:21:10 +0100, "Matt Sewell" wrote : > Heh - Anton Barbeau - my band supported him the other day... I'd > recommend him to this list, though I'd say "obscure Sacramento Robyn > Hitchcock-worshipper" is a little cruel (even if it did make me snigger). > He has some very sharp and very funny songs and is a very nice bloke to > boot... > > Cheers > > Matt, obscure Oxford Robyn Hitchcock-worshipper... > > >From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey >The Butthole Surfers have a couple of > songs that fit: "Lou Reed" and "Jimi" >(although as far as I can tell, > neither is about their eponymous >musicians...although with the > Buttholes, who can tell?). Obscure Sacramento >Robyn Hitchcock- worshipper > Anton Barbeau has a song that appears to be about >All Music Guide critic > Stewart Mason (an acquaintance of mine, actually). > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Protect your PC from e-mail viruses. 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