From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #292 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, July 30 2003 Volume 12 : Number 292 Today's Subjects: ----------------- low-tech grep, and a blast from the gnat-past ["Natalie Jane" ] RE: fegnatalia [John Barrington Jones ] Can't beat a scrawny party horse ["Rex.Broome" ] RE: fegnatalia [Capuchin ] Re: hm [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: hm ["Matt Sewell" ] Re: hm grep ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: hm [Jeff Dwarf ] FegSong Comp Update/Reminder ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: hm grep [Miles Goosens ] Greppin' [Eb ] Re: hm [Capuchin ] Re: Greppin' [Steve Talkowski ] Toronto Fegs Rockin' Out? [Tom Clark ] Re: Greppin' ["Roberta Cowan" ] Re: Greppin' [Eb ] All about Henry Glowing Cranberry [Jeff Dwarf ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 15:51:06 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: low-tech grep, and a blast from the gnat-past You know how I found out when I first posted? I remembered the date - July 17, 1997. I had to guess at the actual digest, though - they're all dated January 26th, which I assume is the day they were archived. Here's my first message (verbose as usual): Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 08:45:30 -0400 From: Natalie Jacobs Subject: a very small introduction Hi - I just subscribed to the list but I've been lurking in the archives for several months now, so I feel like I already know you - well, actually, I *do* know some of you, my fellow XTC fans from the Chalkhills list. I've followed you here. I hope you don't mind. . . Some information: I'm from Ann Arbor, Michigan. I'm 24. I believe I first heard Robyn when I saw the video for "Raymond Chandler Evening," but I didn't get interested till "Queen Elvis" came out - the first album of his that I bought, and a much-maligned one, but dammit, I like it! I've never seen him live but I have missed him three times for various reasons (including stupidity). I am just starting to get back into the Hitchcockian oeuvre after a long hiatus, so I don't own all, or even half, of his albums. Therefore, I probably won't be saying much on this list since otherwise I might betray my shameful ignorance. But I will continue to lurk, and maybe someday, when my collection is sufficiently expansive, I'll actually have something to say. There are certain people out there who have constructed their own private universe, complete with its own flora, fauna, and language. Some of these people are willing to let others have a peek inside. Robyn Hitchcock is one of those people, and that's why I like him. - - Natalie P.S. The Great Quail is way cool. P.P.S. Now that I'm officially on the list, does that make me a "feg"? Or do I have to earn that title? _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 18:59:03 -0400 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: RE: I've got until JUST before Christmas... > FSThomas wrote: > > > > I'll be one year old on December 15th. > > ... In dog years. > > isn't that 49, in dog years? Well...if it's one dog year it's seven human, right? - -f. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:00:32 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: low-tech grep, and a blast from the gnat-past >Natalie: >P.S. The Great Quail is way cool. Boy-crazy idolatry, in place from the start. ;) I reread my first post and cringed. There are about three different phrases which seem totally alien to me. So cheery and goody-two-shoes. Can you imagine me signing off a post with "Regards," today? Ugh. ;) Incidentally, I suspect my website will go down tomorrow, due to creeping just over my alloted bandwidth. First time that has ever happened. Strange. It must be that massive Claudine Longet revival at work. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 18:19:38 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: fegnatalia Jeff: > (If there's an easier way to have done this in Windows, > please humiliate me publicly by describing it on the list. Nothing wrong with that. I'll just mention that there are GUI grep tools for Windows that can save you the step of extracting the compressed archive, if only because the mere mention of a GUI grep tool for Windows is probably extremely irritating to Jeme ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:23:26 -0700 (PDT) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: RE: fegnatalia On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Brian Huddell wrote: > Nothing wrong with that. I'll just mention that there are GUI grep tools > for Windows that can save you the step of extracting the compressed archive, cygwin, baby.....cygwin!! =jbj= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:39:04 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Can't beat a scrawny party horse Natalie: >>I actually really appreciate the fact that guys find Lucinda Williams >>hot even though she's not at all conventionally attractive - in fact, I >>think she looks like a horse. (Maybe she should date Elliott Smith, who >>looks like Eeyore.) Not that there's anything wrong with looking like >>a horse - or Eeyore, for that matter Oh god... I sense a Julia Roberts reference coming on. Yep, there it is. I proved unable to stop it. For the record I came down on the "not so fuckable" side of that particular... what was the term? Ah yes. "Emaciated horse". I thought Elliot Smith was supposed to be "dreeeeamy", though. I'm so very bad at predicting what the ladies find appealing. I don't know if it's my fault or my wife's for having unconventional tastes herself (to my benefit, although I don't look horsey at all). ____ Sebastian: >>Just after I deleted Rex's post I realised the source of its subject - am >>I right? Yup. _____ JeFFrey: >>So apparently, I recently celebrated my 8th birthday - although it seems I >>can't find anything *after* late March of '96 I must've driven you off the list or something, because that's only a month's worth of overlap. (Randi found my "real" first post for me; it was about a week earlier than I'd thought and did indeed reference "clickot" along with hijacking a thread about "Is Robyn Sexy"? After all these years, I guess the answer is, well, he's not horse-looking, anyhow.) >>I was gone for longer than I thought, and here for less time. I *think* I >>resub'd in late 2001...but I'm probably wrong. I would've resubbed in Spring 2002, so I must've become less offensive in the interrim. Although you'd be hard pressed to prove it. - -Rex, perhaps vaguely echidna-looking? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:00:11 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: early feg t-shirt predictions. >That beats me, James! It looks as if I started posting on 11th August >1995, but my first interesting post was 29 Aug when I reported on the free >show at Yarmouth Station, IoW. > the first thread I seem to have been involved with was on "Blithe spirit", the movie that inspired "My wife and my dead wife", by some guy called Robyn something. >I hope we aren't going to go through all the last 8 years' threads again! >Discussion of Chines, anybody? ye ghods. Placentae, the evil Welsh, and of course the great Brian Wilson war. - --- >Whilst buying my beautiful new guitar* on Saturday, I noticed the shop was >selling shirts that said "Big Muff" (in reference to the effects pedal - of >*course*!). I considered buying one, but chickened out. > >In London, my friend Sonya pointed out the possible connotations of a London >Transportation Museum T-shirt that said "Mind the Gap." of course there's the (probably apocryphal) story of an event in Germany sponsored by a large milk company, where people were required to wear t-shirts emblazoned with the company logo, which consisted largely of the word "milch". For some reason, many of the women objected. Of t-shirts of this nature that I've seen, my favourite is possibly the one with "Coito ergo sum" written across it. - --- >does anyone else find the new Pentagon system for gambling on war on terror >to be disgusting, reprehensible, ridiculousl, wrong-headed, or otherwise >immoral? Just when I think my government and its military could sink no >lower, this comes along and proves me wrong. Agreed, and the thought of insider trading worries me. >well as any other >attempts to predict politics (which sometimes seems about like the weather >to me) true. We expect climate, we get weather. We expect democracy, we get politics. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:55:11 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: RE: fegnatalia Quoting Brian Huddell : > Nothing wrong with that. I'll just mention that there are GUI grep > tools > for Windows that can save you the step of extracting the compressed > archive I thought a "GUI grep tool for Windows" was the sort of thing one used on one's car after a hot summer day with lots of dead, squashed mosquitoes all over the windshield. Shows how much I know. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: we make everything you need, and you need everything we make np: capture of a web-archived radio show featuring Ulrich Schnauss ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:08:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: RE: fegnatalia On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, John Barrington Jones wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Brian Huddell wrote: > > Nothing wrong with that. I'll just mention that there are GUI grep tools > > for Windows that can save you the step of extracting the compressed archive, > > cygwin, baby.....cygwin!! Now you're fucking talking! Oh, and I think JBJ was the first feg I ever met knowing I was meeting a feg. And I think Susan Dodge is the first feg I ever met NOT knowing I was meeting a feg. ... though I might have run into Michael Wolfe at some point in my distant past because it seems that ever month or two we find a new place and time we both experienced in our respective youths. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:53:28 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: hm - --On Dienstag, 29. Juli 2003 18:24 Uhr -0400 Aaron Mandel wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Eb wrote: > >> Something I never get, though...when you have filenames with spaces >> in them, how do you refer to them in UNIX/Terminal mode? > > Backslash and then a space, e.g. > > Robyn\ Hitchcock\ -\ Fegmania/01\ Egyptian\ Cream.mp3 Or quotes: "Robyn Hitchcock - Fegmania/01 Egyptian Cream.mp3" - -- Sebastian Hagedorn PGP key ID: 0x4D105B45 Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156 50823 Kvln http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:51:16 +0100 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: hm I guess you're the only one prepared to admit it! Actually, I don't know either... Matt >From: Eb >Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:45:30 -0700 > >Well, I guess I must be the only one on the list not casually >familar with the "grep" application. > >Eb - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ It's fast, fun and completely FREE! Download MSN Messenger today! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:17:25 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: hm grep Eb wrote: > Well, I guess I must be the only one on the list not casually familar > with the "grep" application. Get/buy yourself a copy of BBEdit lickety-split. Too bad the free BBEdit Lite isn't around anymore. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 07:56:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: hm Matt Sewell wrote: > I guess you're the only one prepared to admit it! > > Actually, I don't know either... Nor I. Have no inner gearhead regardless of whether car or computer or anything else, yet for some reason a lot of people seem to think I do. > >From: Eb >Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:45:30 -0700 > >Well, > I guess I must > be the only one on the list not casually >familar with > the "grep" > application. > >Eb > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > It's fast, fun and completely FREE! Download MSN > Messenger today! ===== "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:54:52 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: FegSong Comp Update/Reminder A few people have been asking, and probably even more have completely forgotten, but the compilation of original songs by feglisters is still in the works. I know a few of y'all are booking studio time, dusting off 4-tracks, firing up ProTools, digitizing moldy old cassettes or whatever else over the coming month... progress reports are always welcome; don't wanna shut down the submissions process while someone's still slaving away. Looking forward to hearing everyone's stuff. - -Rex "somewhere between Garcia, Gano, and the Dead Milkmen" Broome ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:11:49 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: hm grep On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 09:17 AM, Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > Get/buy yourself a copy of BBEdit lickety-split. For some of us, that would be like giving a spud cannon to a 9 year old. Maybe BBEdit goofing would be a good use for my Yikes! after I get a G5. - - Steve __________ The Bush administration repealed a rule this week that would have allowed government agencies to refuse federal contracts to companies that do not comply with labor, environmental and consumer-protection laws. - Neil Irwin, Washington Post, 12/28/2001 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:57:54 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: hm grep At 12:11 PM 7/30/2003 -0500, steve wrote: >On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 09:17 AM, Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > >> Get/buy yourself a copy of BBEdit lickety-split. > > >For some of us, that would be like giving a spud cannon to a 9 year >old. Maybe BBEdit goofing would be a good use for my Yikes! after I >get a G5. You lost me at "spud cannon." later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:29:54 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Greppin' Somebody, find us the first "reap" post. :) Worst sentence ever, from a press release on that new Gord Downie album: "On Nudes, Downie channels a waterfall of ideas into a 37-minute sonic cauldron that swirls with roughage and delicacy." Ooooof. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:47:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: hm On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > --On Dienstag, 29. Juli 2003 18:24 Uhr -0400 Aaron Mandel > wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Eb wrote: > >> Something I never get, though...when you have filenames with spaces > >> in them, how do you refer to them in UNIX/Terminal mode? > > > > Backslash and then a space, e.g. > > Robyn\ Hitchcock\ -\ Fegmania/01\ Egyptian\ Cream.mp3 > > Or quotes: > "Robyn Hitchcock - Fegmania/01 Egyptian Cream.mp3" I had no idea you could just quote your directory separators like that. I generally escape my meta characters (the method Aaron described) anyway, but it's good to know that quotes don't interfere. I also noticed the way bash handles filename completion with quotes. Very nifty. Oh, and Stewart just told me that Brian Dewan did the narration on the second Music Tapes record. I guess I have to buy that now. There's some musical content. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:50:58 -0400 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: Greppin' On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 05:29 PM, Eb wrote: > Worst sentence ever, from a press release on that new Gord Downie > album: "On Nudes, Downie channels a waterfall of ideas into a > 37-minute sonic cauldron that swirls with roughage and delicacy." Conjures up a Fantasia-like large salad, eh? ; ) Seriously though, have you given any of the tracks (on the website) a listen to yet? Come on Eb, humor us... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:06:13 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Toronto Fegs Rockin' Out? Just saw a live report on CNN about the big rockfest against SARS in TO. Glad to see those in attendance have some taste: Justin Timberlake was pelted with water bottles. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:06:13 -0400 From: "Roberta Cowan" Subject: Re: Greppin' Let's see--it looks like the first post that had "Reap" in the subject was in v8 #140: *** Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:40:25 -0800 From: Eb Subject: reap Bill Wendell, Announcer on David Letterman Show, Dies at 75 By ANTHONY RAMIREZ Bill Wendell, a radio and television announcer whose crisp authoritative voice provided an ironic foil to entertainers from Ernie Kovacs to David Letterman, died Wednesday at a hospice in Boca Raton, Fla. He was 75. *** I will admit I cheated a little to find this since Woj has thoughtfully provided a topic index for the volumes beginning with that one. However I did do a windows "find" search on some of the earlier volumes and found this earlier post from Eb: *** Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 20:41:57 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Eb, list Grim Reaper.... Weekend death toll: Falco Carl Wilson Do you suppose that asshole Mike Love will finally hang up the Beach Boys banner now?) Eb *** So it's all your fault Eb though I suspect you knew that...8-) I did find that my first post was in March of '95 and I didn't have another one until 2000 though I was not unsubscribed. A perennial lurker I am. Cheers, Roberta - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eb" To: "fgz" Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 5:29 PM Subject: Greppin' > Somebody, find us the first "reap" post. :) > > Worst sentence ever, from a press release on that new Gord Downie > album: "On Nudes, Downie channels a waterfall of ideas into a > 37-minute sonic cauldron that swirls with roughage and delicacy." > > Ooooof. > > Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:41:36 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Greppin' >Let's see--it looks like the first post that had "Reap" in the subject was >in v8 #140: > >So it's all your fault Eb though I suspect you knew that...8-) Yes. ;) I never noticed those "Topics" indexes before now, actually. Check out all "Eb" subject lines appearing in 1999! And there ought to be a *special* award given to "eb all over the world" for appearing in *44* different digests. 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Why must Eb keep bashing me? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:51:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: All about Henry Glowing Cranberry http://www.aspalta.cbc.ca/deaddog_asp/aininfo.asp - -- Charlie Temporary Nuthatch (nom de feg, Peter Calcified Canola) ===== "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #292 ********************************