From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #285 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, July 24 2003 Volume 12 : Number 285 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: All this snozberry tastes the same [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] X and some Is - Roman for 13? [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: teevee [Carrie Galbraith ] Re: X and some Is - Roman for 13? ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Countries beginning with an I. [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Making Mum Mad [Tom Clark ] Collectable Choices ["Rex.Broome" ] gnatmaniax: Jay Farrar and Tim Easton (for Miles) ["Natalie Jane" Subject: Re: All this snozberry tastes the same Quoting Ken Weingold : > Rick Rubin ruined The Cult. Isn't that sort of like saying, "the garlic made the shit smell"? I mean, he might have made them worse - but gawd, what an awful act. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: This album is dedicated to anyone who started out as an animal and :: winds up as a processing unit. :: --Soft Boys, note, _Can of Bees_ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 23:08:01 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Shit! rex said: >Someone quickly please tell me about something massively stupid that they've done in the recent past which might, just possibly, make me reconsider the obvious >course on which I've pretty much decided (that being, of course, suicide). I missed the free shuttle to the airport in Tokyo and had to pay $210.00 for a taxi to get to the plane on time. ALSO, and very relevant (but a little long): I bought Neil Young tickets for the Dodge theatre in Phoenix, August 1st. I decided to get balcony seats and got front row of the balcony, dead center. The tickets arrived July 3rd, and I put them above the visor in my car. I had car problems that day (battery completely died). A friend who was going to the show with me, came over to give me a jump start. The battery wouldn't take any charge, and before he headed out, my friend paid me for his ticket. I got towed down to the dealership. I needed to get going, and headed out with my ride. A few hours later, I realized I'd left the tickets over my visor along with some front row Laurie Anderson tickets. The power windows on the car were down, and the service department closed shortly before I realized I'd forgotten to grab the tickets when I was getting my work papers earlier. I'd had some video game cartridges taken from my car at that dealership a few years ago. The service department didn't reopen until 7/5 because of the holiday. I went drinking with the friend on Thursday night, and he was really excited about how the seats worked out (he's going to the Neil Young show at the Greek Theatre on Friday, also). It was really uncomfortable because, I figured he'd stress about it a lot, if I let him know there was a problem. The next 36 hours were very uncomfortable. Of course, the tickets were still there. I had a similiar, but freakier thing happen with tickets to a sold out Residents Halloween concert. Are you going to the REM/Wilco show at the Hollywood Bowl, 9/10? I got my ticket a couple of days ago. Later, Marc The fact of the matter is, I'm fucking brilliant. Not 'was' brilliant. 'Am' brilliant. Pete Townshend ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 19:17:52 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: X and some Is - Roman for 13? >"Anyone mention the guys who wear the big eyeballs? >Can't think of the name damn it. >Matt" the Marty Feldman Appreciation Society. - --- >> nope. There are at least two of us (or am I too old for >> Gen X?). > >Aren't all really too old for GenX? I mean, of all the >crappy bands to name a generation after, why Billy Idol's? > >(I think it's supposed to be born 64-76ish). ah I missed out by a few months. But I'm too young to be a baby boomer. I'm just one of those inbetweenies, that everyone likes to forget. James ("gimme an oooo!") James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:10:21 +0200 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: teevee On Giovedl, lug 24, 2003, at 00:11 Europe/Rome, Eb wrote: > BTW, did you "Buffy"/"24" fans hear that Bald Black Principal from > "Buffy" is joining the cast of "24" next year? Being out of the loop over here and not being a TV watcher, I didn't know about 24. But one of my American friends recently returned from a trip to the states where she bought the first year of 24 on dvd. She loaned them to me last week. I am hooked. Of course, I've always been a fan of KS, you know, the Lost Boys/Flatliners 80s stuff (bad hair films) and then Dark City... He's great in this series. Anyway, still have never seen Buffy or even ER or X Files (yeah, I know) but this on dvd, without the commercials, is a pretty good piece of work. Don't have a clue about the 2nd year but I'll watch it when it comes my way. I'm sure this show has been talked about ad nauseum on the list but had to rave about it anyway. Be Seeing You, - - c ************************************** "Questions are a burden for others. Answers are a prison for oneself." ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 08:10:33 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: X and some Is - Roman for 13? James Dignan wrote: > > ah I missed out by a few months. But I'm too young to be a baby boomer. I'm > just one of those inbetweenies, that everyone likes to forget. now, was that on the first or second album? (we only had the second album for about 15 minutes, until my mum overheard the track about farting, and marched my brother and the album back up to the record store for a refund.) Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 08:27:31 -0500 From: "Sumiko Keay" Subject: Re: teevee Really? Does that mean that the c.s.i. Miami nightmare is over? sumi >>> Miles Goosens 07/23/03 05:27PM >>> At 03:11 PM 7/23/2003 -0700, Eb wrote: >BTW, did you "Buffy"/"24" fans hear that Bald Black Principal from >"Buffy" is joining the cast of "24" next year? Does that mean that it's the end for _24_? There's a pretty high correlation between "final season" and D.B. Woodside, whether the "final" is expected or not... http://us.imdb.com/Name?Woodside,%20D.B. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 07:20:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Countries beginning with an I. Miles Goosens wrote: > Jeff Dwarf wrote: > >(I think [Gen X]'s supposed to be born 64-76ish). > > When all the Generation-X-as-popular-parlance stuff > started, I felt like it was *really* about people who > were a few years younger than me (me: b.1967). I'd say > b.1970 at the earliest. Not that generation-thinking is > really useful or meaningful or anything. But all those > supposed GenX traits and worldviews seemed to describe > people younger than me and the people my age that I knew. Well, the Baby Boom is now generally defined as being 1946-1964, at least in the US, which is why I said 64 for the start. All those sort of generational definitions are of such limited use anyways. And for what it's worth, Cobain and Corgan were both born in 67, Reznor in 65, and Vedder in 64. ===== "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 07:47:52 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Making Mum Mad on 7/24/03 5:10 AM, Stewart C. Russell at scruss@sympatico.ca wrote: > (we only had the second album for about 15 minutes, until my mum > overheard the track about farting, and marched my brother and the album > back up to the record store for a refund.) I can top that. When I was 15 or so I bought Zappa's "Over-Nite Sensation". I immediately trudged home and, thinking my mother was out of the house, threw it on the turntable. My sister and I were sitting at the kitchen table having a snack when, right in the middle of "Dinah-Moe-Hum", the needle screeches across the vinyl and my mom comes marching into the kitchen and proceeds to beat me over the head with the record, screaming "I don't want this kind of filth in my house!!" It was pretty funny. I still have the broken pieces in the record jacket. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:46:37 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Collectable Choices Ross T: >>I'm also cheered to hear about Let's Active activity, but not so sure >>about Collector's Choice. They put out a bunch of 13th Floor >>Elevator CDs that have terrible sound, but maybe that's not >>the fault of the label. Actually that was Collectables, not Collector's Choice. Collectables is a dicey label but kind of indispensible in that they put out stuff nobody else will, but they often seem to fuck it up on a pretty fundamental level through carelessness. Collector's Choice seem to have a more well-intentioned staff but still fuck things up anyway, it just seems more accidental. They usually do good, correctly researched if pithy liner notes, but I have at least two reissues by them (Dave Guard's Whiskey Hill Singers and the Verlaine solo debut) where the used the wrong damned masters! (In the Verlaine case it meant that I got a second version of the album with different mixes to complement my German CD of the normal version; in the Dave Guard case they redid it and fixed it). OTOH it was Collectables who just put out the Guadalcanal Diary double reissue, and it sounds pretty good and has fair enough notes. However, they didn't bother to put the titles of either album on the spine and the art is truly cheesy, so there you go. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:52:18 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: gnatmaniax: Jay Farrar and Tim Easton (for Miles) I'll post the Jayhawks review later... it's on my hard drive at home. In the meantime, here's breaking news from last night. So I arrived early at the lovely Aladdin Theater (only a few blocks from my house!) so I could get a good seat. Jane and her man Jason had yet to show up. There were a few people in line - some folks in Uncle Tupelo T-shirts ("they broke up 10 years ago, get over it!" as the local paper says), and a slightly drunk couple. The guy half of the couple complained to me, of his wife, "She keeps singing Jeff Tweedy songs!" I said, "I thought of wearing my Wilco shirt but I thought I'd be torn to shreds." "You'll change your tune after this show," he said. "Maybe," I said. Jane and Jason arrived and I indicated the couple and whispered, "Postcarders!" We sat in line for a while. I vehemently defended Jim O'Rourke against Jane's charges that he was making Wilco too "avant-garde." I also sang Jeff Tweedy songs rather loudly to disturb the putative Postcarders. Finally, a guy came by and said we could go in, but we couldn't bring in cameras, so Jane had to go back to her car. Once inside, we found that the large space between the front row and the stage had been filled in with stacking chairs, so we sat down in the second row of those seats. The supposed Postcarders sat down next to us and we got to talking, and discovered they weren't Postcarders at all, and the guy had been joking about the Wilco-hating. The woman was from Pensacola and loved the tinfoil sculptures I brought - a tinfoil devil for Tim Easton, and a tinfoil St. Genevieve, clad in royal blue foil, for Jay Farrar. She also liked the Swedish Chef finger puppet that Jane gave me. She urged me to see the Drive-By Truckers, a band much beloved on Postcard, and I said I might. So finally, Tim Easton came on. He was adorable - a tiny guy with a mop of curly brown hair, like a little sheepdog. He actually resembled a young Kimberley Rew. He was carrying a black Gibson dreadnaught which looked far too big for him to play. I've only heard one of his records, "The Truth About Us," but it's a fine one. He's your basic alt-country singer-songwriter type, with a bluesy feel to some of his stuff, but his songs are beautiful, and he has a gorgeous deep husky voice. "Enthralled" is too mild a word to describe how I felt during his performance. He was amazing. He's a great guitarist, his voice was incredible, the songs I was familiar with sounded even better than they do on record. When he played "Carry Me," my favorite song off "The Truth About Us," I nearly got teary-eyed, and afterwards I whispered to Jane, "OK, I can go home now." In between songs, he bantered cheerfully with the audience, telling us about how he lives in his van now - "I could move here, but I know you don't want any more people moving here," he said. "Please move here!" Jane and I shouted. Maybe he'll take us up on that, and then living in Portland would be even better than it is now. :) Anyway, I would urge anyone who likes this kind of music (and I know there's a few of you out there) to see Tim live if you can. During the intermission, Tim came out to the lobby and I gave him his devil. I told him to put it in his shirt pocket and he said, "But then you can't see his little goat legs." He put it there anyway. I hate asking people to sign autographs, but he'd just signed something for Jane, so I asked him to sign the little poster I'd just bought. He really is teeny-tiny, barely taller than me, and even cuter close up than he is on stage. When I asked him about getting my St. Genevieve to Jay, he said, "I don't know, he's pretty elusive. He's kind of shy." I mentioned that we should be enemies because I'm from Michigan and he's from Ohio, and he dismissively said something like, "Oh, that old stuff." He was sweet. I want to marry him now. So then it was time for Jay Farrar to go on. He seems to be dealing better with his fashion problems - the facial hair is a little less ugly, his hair's cut shorter, and the glasses are gone. He looks a LOT younger in person than in photographs, and a hell of a lot better, too - I think he's just one of those people who doesn't take photographs well. He was joined by the floppy-haired, broken-nosed Mark Spencer on guitar, and also the soul-patched, smartly-dressed Eric Heywood on pedal steel. Both guys also occasionally played bass. The set started out very, very right, with my favorite song from "Sebastopol," "Make It All Right." Jay's voice was powerful and beautiful, as usual. I realized why he always sounds so clench-jawed, though - it's because he hardly moves his mouth when he sings. My old voice teacher would kick his ass. He went on to play several more songs from "Sebastopol" before playing some songs from his recent album, "Terroir Blues," which, frankly, paled in comparison, even with Mark Spencer's gorgeous, evocative accompaniment. (That guy doesn't get paid enough. Without him the whole set would've fallen flat.) I did really like a song which was actually my least favorite on the record, the weird, awkward "Fool King's Crown," which sounded greatly improved without the effects on Jay's voice and the clumsy arrangement. But all of Jay's solo stuff, alas, paled in comparison when he busted out the songs from Son Volt's first album "Trace" - "Route" (the first Son Volt song I ever heard), "Windfall," and oh, oh, OHHHH! - "Tear-Stained Eye"!!! Without banjo, fiddle, and drummer, the songs didn't sound quite right, but they were good enough for me. I feel honored to have heard those songs performed. I was a little annoyed to hear people singing along off-key behind me, but I could tune it out pretty well. Naturally, at one point a guy yelled out, "MOONSHINER!" Jane said she'd give me a dollar if I called out for "Whisky Bottle" but I refused. I'm such a spoilsport. It's true what everyone says about Jay - he doesn't give much to the audience. His performance is very inward-directed. There wasn't a whole lot to see on stage, so I started noticing little details, like the fact that Jay wears his watch with the face on his inner wrist, the way Jeff Tweedy does and my grandfather did, and I wonder if that's an Illinois thing (my grandfather grew up there). I also liked the way Jay would close his eyes, almost sensually, lost in the music, and then open them again in a startled sort of way - "Shit, there's an audience here!" Not surprisingly, there wasn't much banter from the laconic Jay, just a few "Thank you's" and "How are you all doing?" which felt a bit obligatory. But after he played "California," from the new album, he said, "I know all of you are from California" (a reference to the increasing number of California migrants coming to Portland). Hey - HEY! JAY MADE A JOKE!!! :) There were a couple of encores. I can't remember what they played during the first one, but the second one was a jaw-dropper. Jay and Mark Spencer did a cover of "Love You To," amazingly mimicking Indian scales and sitar riffs on their guitars, which must've been in some sort of weird alternate tuning. It was stunning. I've never seen anyone play like Mark Spencer - he was on fire, and I'm surprised his fingers didn't drop off afterwards. The audience gave them a standing ovation, which they richly deserved. It was a great ending to a great show. After the show, I wondered how to get St. Genevieve to Jay. Jane said I should put it on the stage with a note, so I wrote one on Jane's heart-shaped note paper: "Jay - This is St. Genevieve. Thanks for a great show. - Natalie" and put it in St. G's hand. The roadie said we could put it off to the side of the stage. Just then, shaggy little Tim Easton appeared, carrying a box. Jane called out to him and he said he'd be right back. The roadie impatiently let us wait. Tim returned, agreed to try and get the sculpture to Jay, and, as he was standing up on the stage, I asked him if he could bend down so I could give him a kiss. I kissed him on the cheek and gave him a little hug, and thanked him. Then we said good-bye, I bade farewell to Jane and Jason, and I walked home. The end. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:08:50 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: But I can take it or leave it each time Jeff D: >>Aren't all really too old for GenX? I mean, of all the >>crappy bands to name a generation after, why Billy Idol's? >>And yes, I know it's Douglas Coupland or whoever, but fuck >>'im. Still, it's better than being called Generation Y. >>(I think it's supposed to be born 64-76ish). Miles: >>When all the Generation-X-as-popular-parlance stuff started, I felt like it >> was *really* about people who were a few years younger than me >>(me: b.1967). I'd say b.1970 at the earliest. Not that generation-thinking >>is really useful or meaningful or anything. But all those supposed >>GenX traits and worldviews seemed to describe people younger than >>me and the people my age that I know. I've probably blathered about this topic before, but it's close to home, since my wife was born in '63 and I was born in '71 and we've spent a fair amount of time trying to figure out what the hell. First of, Billy "Generation X" Idol was a contemporary of Sting, who made a (lame) anthem out of the sentiment "We Were Born, Born in the Fifties". (Real punks belong, of course, to the Blank Generation.) So skip to the Coupland book, which came out in the mid-'80's and was about recent college graduates (I think, it's been a while). That would be people who are about my wife's age. But as Miles said, when the term got widespread traction-- and I associate that for some reason with the advent of Lollapalooza-- it seemed to be, based on the ages of the key musical artists (and the whole thing was keyed to music), people *my* age. And then it moved on to the *fans*, who were younger than the artists, and started to mean people who were into piercing/tattoos/Alice in Chains/raves etc., and those people were largely *younger* than me. The dividing line seems to be that Generation X had to stop when the next generation to come along were the kids of Baby Boomers, who were either Gen Y or Boomer Babies or something else. And oddly, even some definitions of the Baby Boom would include my wife as well; certainly, as the youngest of three kids, her oldest brother is a Boomer, no question about it. And no, it don't mean shit, but it's slightly interesting to see just how badly these irritating media labels fall apart on close examination. - -Rex "I bet Neil kicked ass last night, but I got to change diapers and stuff" Broome ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 12:15:40 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Countries beginning with an I. Quoting Jeff Dwarf : > Well, the Baby Boom is now generally defined as being > 1946-1964 Which only proves how full of poot all these "generation" things are. I was born in 1961. Just as a comparison, someone born in 1946 would have been a child in the midst of the Cold War, experienced the full flush of sixties whatnot as an adult, and would have been nearly middle-aged when AIDS became widely known. Me, the height of the Cold War is largely history, the sixties happened when I was a child, and AIDS hit at what otherwise would have been the peak of sexual experimentation for people my age. That adds up to a completely different life experience (obviously, there're many more factors). I don't really think of people who are 57 as being about the same age as I am (which is what I take "generation" to mean, if it means anything). Furthermore, the Baby Boomers are assumed to have benefited from their coming of age in a time of prosperity (despite Vietnam) which encouraged their (supposed) decadence into self-centered short-sightedness blah-blah-blah _Time_/_Newsweek_ shallow analysis stuff. When I graduated from college (1984), the job market was about as poor as it's ever been. It seems like "Gen X" has been used as a descriptor for nearly anyone younger than Boomers, except the very youngest people around today. I'm not so sure, despite those commonalities among people of the same age alluded to above, that "generations" really have any significant meaning at all. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: When the only tool you have is an interociter, you tend to treat :: everything as if it were a fourth-order nanodimensional sub-quantum :: temporo-spatial anomaly. :: --Crow T. Maslow ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:25:11 -0700 From: "Kenneth Johnson" Subject: OT 0%RH War content - new yorker article "The Syrian Bet" http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?030728fa_fact I found this article to be very interesting and illuminating. Yet more evidence against the Bushita war machine. For anyone who had the basic sense not to trust this administration and its wrongheaded push for war in the first place, this will come as no surprise. Sorry to interrupt the music geekery & personal lamentations for this world news update, but I feel charged to disseminate important articles and information especially considering how mainstream media outlets obfuscate and ignore them. peace Kenneth ************************************ "The most appalling cruelties are committed by apparently virtuous governments in expectation of a great good to come, never learning that the evil done now is the sure destroyer of the expected good." - ----Katherine Anne Porter ************************************* _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 12:13:12 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V12 #284 The Holographic Sound thing reminds me of how, when I was fairly young, there was a story about how someone had rigged up 3-D TV images that would play on any regular set. I remember an example being broadcast that I couldn't tell whether it really looked 3-D or I was just tricking myself into believing it did. I assume it didn't work too well since I haven't heard about it since. ___ Jeme, then Eb: >>>>If not, turn into a total shithead, scalp your tickets to an unsuspecting >>>>chump, then buy tickets from some other scalper. >>So much for Jeme, society's grand moralist. In all fairness, he was just giving me an option and did specify that acting on it would involve my turning into a total shithead. And it was kind of him to assume that I'm not one already. Plus I found the following rather touching: >>Just trying to cheer you up. I remember thinking yesterday "Neil and >>Lucinda, eh? That'll be good for Rex. He's clearly been feeling like >>he's had a rough time this summer." Meanwhile: >>On the other hand, yes, you *are* retarded for making this goof. ;) Heh. You're not gonna see me denying it, either! - -Rex, who was once a Sandman at a Logan's Run-themed 30th birthday party, and yes, the guest of honor *did* Run before midnight... PS the whole Carousel thing severely freaked my shit out when I was a kid. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:01:37 -0400 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V12 #283 (LET'S ACTIVE) |Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:05:15 -0500 |From: Miles Goosens |Subject: Re: let's active ~ 0% robyn content | |At 01:17 AM 7/22/2003 -0400, * randi/twofangs.productions * wrote: |>Hi Miles, |> |>Just read your post about Let's Active Tribute show ... |> |>> n.p. in my head: all the great music played at the Let's Active |>tribute show |>> Saturday night in Winston-Salem, NC -- y'all shoulda been there. |>Performers |>> included Mitch himself, with Faye Hunter joining the Fiendish |>Minstrels for an |>>all-Let's Active set. Should be an audio and/or DVD release of the |>show at some |>> point ... |> |>That sounds beyond awesome. |> |>You didn't happen to record the show did you? | |The show was recorded in both audio and video formats for |eventual DVD release. Hi Randi, Larry here, I mainly lurk here of late, but yes I did record the shows, all of them. I'm working with 3 different people that shot video with the plan of making a DVD. We hope to know more later this summer. |(Special FegNote: Among the participants in the show was once |(and perhaps future) Feg doug-mayo wells, playing with one of |his stable of bands, King Kilowatt.) | |>I heard Let's Active were going to be re-releasing their cds ... is |>this true? |> |>If so do you know what label and if they are remastered or contain |>bonus tracks that would make me need to buy the new ones? | |The reissues are on Collector's Choice. I haven't picked up |any of them, so I can't comment on the audio quality. BIG |PLANS has two bonus tracks, '86 takes of songs that ended up |on EVERY DOG; EVERY DOG itself has two Mitch-produced |alternate takes as opposed to the regular-album John |Leckie-produced ones. | | | |The tribute CD, which is *excellent,* is at The audio quality should be no different than the orginal CD releases. They were not remastered. I've heard stories, though unconfirmed, that no one knows the whereabouts of the orginal IRS masters are after their dissolution. I heard this in reference to the dB's recording on IRS. Mitch Easter has been talking with somone in Itlay for sometime about a box set that would likley include a lot of unreleased stuff. As far as tributes go, the Let's Active one Miles linked above ranks with some of the best. It was released on Stuart Coupe's Laughing Outlaw label in Australia, but has stateside distribution in the US. Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 13:13:41 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Lots of Soft Boys/Paris/Matthew/Lee info A while back I posted asking about who had played bass at the final Soft Boys show in Paris. Jim D., from Fegmaniax, met up with some of the band at one of the Clerkenwell shows and found that a friend of Kimberley's/the band's, Lee Cave-Berry, filled the spot. I tracked her down and posted back and forth with Lee and Matthew for a clearer picture of what happened. The mostly unedited posts are below--they might make more sense if you start from the bottom, Marc Dear Marc, Yes you may quote me! I'd like to add a couple of things... Playing with Robyn, Morris and Kimberley in Paris was one of the most elevated experiences I've had in my musical career. To play those songs with those lovely people was absolutely wonderful and something that I have never even imagined to be possible. If, however, I could somehow exchange that experience for the pleasure of being able to continue to attend SB rehearsals, sound-checks and gigs.. I would. As has been mentioned elsewhere, I have been a fan of Matthew's ever since I saw him in a band called Shank's Pony.. quite a long time before the SB's. We are both fans of Andy Fraser when he was with Free. Matthew was brilliant at the rehearsal before Paris (and I have to say I think I was more nervous at the rehearsal than at the gig) .. he was incredibly enthusiastic and supportive. Pulse is absolutely my favourite bassline on the album (and one of my all-time favourites) and I made the best fist of it that I could :) I hope that's not too much. Thanks so much for the interest. Lee - ----- Original Message ----- From: Marc Holden To: Lee Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 8:08 AM Subject: Re: Soft Boys live Hey Lee-- Matthew's response is below. I wanted to know if it was okay to quote you also, for the Hitchcock news groups, Marc - ----- Original Message ----- >sure...I have no worries, its all social history now! matthew - ----- Original Message ----- I was hoping she was someone nice. She was kind enough to respond. Is it okay to post any/all of that, to Fegmaniax or Lee? I don't want to make anything public that is more personal. Marc - ----- Original Message ----- >>Lee is totally great, I love her....we'd worked through the numbers together earlier that week because we knew there was a chance I wouldnt go and she played Pulse of My Heart better than me, she changed the bass line slightly but subtly and it was beautiful...she's always been really supportive at gigs and it was great to see her actually go one step further and play the stuff live.......Matthew x ----- Original Message ----- From: Lee To: Marc Holden Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:34 AM Subject: Re: Soft Boys live Hi Marc, Of course I had a wonderful time .. I still buzz about it occasionally and I'm extremely grateful to Matthew for making it all possible. I'd love to tell him all about it. As far as releasing anything from the show goes, as far as I know, there is no evidence at all that I played the gig.. I've not heard about any photo's or recordings taken at the time ..(although I know Michelle took some photos that I haven't seen, and there were definately photographers in the pit whilst I was playing) and if it wasn't for the wonderful review posted by Jim Davies .. (and nice comments from Robyn and Morris) .. I was begining to think it was all a wonderful (and totally fantastic) dream I'd had. I'll ask Kimberley about the live cd thing when I see him and get back to you ok? Thanks for thinking of me. Lee ----- Original Message ----- From: Marc Holden To: Lee Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 4:32 PM Subject: Soft Boys live Hey there Lee-- I have been trying to find out for a while who had played bass with the Soft Boys at that last show in Paris. Matthew had told me at the end of February that he was leaving the band, but until recently I thought that he played one final show. A friend of mine was having drinks with him in May, when it came up that he didn't play the final gig. I just saw on the Fegmaniax newsgroup that you filled the spot. What did you think of it all? Are there any plans to release any of this show? Also, can you ask Kimberley what is happening with the live Soft Boys CD that has apparently been in the works for quite a while now? The Fillmore concert in 2001 was recorded for a live release, and I'm really anxious to hear it. I was at the show, and enjoyed it immensely, despite the sound problems in the hall (probably PA related). Thanks for your help, Marc Children need encouragement. So if a kid gets an answer right, tell him it was a lucky guess. That way, he develops a good, lucky feeling. Jack Handey ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #285 ********************************