From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #283 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, July 22 2003 Volume 12 : Number 283 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: All this wallpaper tastes the same [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: blah...eyeroll/Sigur Ros [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: blah...eyeroll/Sigur Ros ["Glen Uber" ] New Factory Records? [Ken Weingold ] Re: blah...eyeroll...etc. [Tom Clark ] let's active ~ 0% robyn content ["* randi/twofangs.productions *" ] Re: Sigur and Factory (0%RH) [Ken Weingold ] Re: omg the scots are soft and buttery [gshell@metronet.com] Re: All this snozberry tastes the same ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] David Barnes's bees ["Natalie Jane" ] Re: omg the scots are soft and buttery [Michael R Godwin ] reap? [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: All this snozberry tastes the same [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: reap? [Eb ] Re: All this snozberry tastes the same [Ken Weingold ] Re: reap? [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: reap? [gshell@metronet.com] Re: All this snozberry tastes the same [Jeff Dwarf ] Holophonic sound [Ken Weingold ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:21:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: All this wallpaper tastes the same Miles Goosens wrote: > Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > >This has been bugging me for a while, but...how do > >normal people* know the titles to the songs on that SR > >album? Because half the letters are obscured > >by graphics - and lacking knowledge of Icelandic, we > >can't just figure out what they are. Of course, my copy > >was a gift (from Miles, as it happens), so maybe store > >copies come w/a sticker conveniently listing > >the full track titles? > > Huh. Wasn't the one I sent you a sealed U.S. store copy? > Mine is a U.S. store copy, and it has the titles pretty > clearly written out in a cursive script, albeit in the > band's half-invented variant of Icelandic. I can't > remember if the listing is on the back of the digipak or > on the digipak insert, though, and I'm away from the CDs > right now, but I do know they weren't obscured by > graphics on mine. > > Now, the titles for ( ), that's another story. Well, the song titles are in the booklet, and are partially covered by a cursive "O", though not as severely as the other Jeff said. They are also in a font similar to Ariel, though rounder (the rest of the credits, and the writing on the "binding" are all in a very italicized, cursive font). Here's what's unreadably hidden (in brackets and assuming that AMG has their shit together): ["Intro" is just unlisted] Sv[ef]n-G-Englar Sta[r]alfur (with the accent also hidden) Flu[gu]frelsarinn N} Batterm Hjart[a]u Hamast (Bamm Bamm Bamm) (tilde hidden) Viu[r]ar Vel Til Loftarasa O[l]sen Olsen Agaetis Byrjun Avalon So it's not that bad, but there are some letters that are clearly hidden (the capital "O" is translucent on the right hand side as looking it at it). ===== "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:34:04 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: blah...eyeroll/Sigur Ros >LOS ANGELES - Despite losing two of their four original band members, singer >Roger Daltrey and guitarist Pete Townshend plan on continuing as The Who. > >Daltrey said it's important to perform the music to the standard it deserves. > ...which requires finding a bassist who's as good as Entwistle, and a drummer with the flair of Moon. How long do you think auditions would take before they find people to reach those standards? - --- >This has been bugging me for a while, but...how do normal people* know the >titles to the songs on that SR album? "Normal people" don't know who Sigur Ros are. James (soon to be playing - Agaetis Byrjun) James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:39:18 -0700 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: Re: blah...eyeroll/Sigur Ros James Dignan earnestly scribbled: >>LOS ANGELES - Despite losing two of their four original band members, singer >>Roger Daltrey and guitarist Pete Townshend plan on continuing as The Who. >> >>Daltrey said it's important to perform the music to the standard it deserves. >> > >...which requires finding a bassist who's as good as Entwistle, and a >drummer with the flair of Moon. How long do you think auditions would take >before they find people to reach those standards? I nominate Les Claypool as Entwistle's replacement. - -- Cheers! - -g- "You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer." - --Frank Zappa ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:54:01 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Talkin' Milk-Cow Mixed-Up Dylan Confusion Blues Me, then Eb: >>>Dylan (Bootleg Series 1) >>Uh...that's just WRONG. Yep, you're right. I misread that one... it's actually on something called the "Genuine Bootleg Series", which is, in fact, a genuine bootleg. Odd thing is that I feel damned sure I've heard Dylan do it. ____ Eugene: >>If you've heard one Sigur Ros song, you've heard them all. I thought that was the point... is there something else going on there of which I'm unaware? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:45:33 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: blah...eyeroll > >...which requires finding a bassist who's as good as Entwistle, and a >>drummer with the flair of Moon. How long do you think auditions would take >>before they find people to reach those standards? > >I nominate Les Claypool as Entwistle's replacement. They should just drop "The Who," release an album under their own names and have Steve Albini produce it. How can they lose? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 20:10:37 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: New Factory Records? Now this could be REALLY cool. - ------------------------------ ANTHONY H WILSON today announced that with the collaboration of TREVOR HORN, PAUL MORLEY and PETER SAVILLE, that a new record label for Manchester, following in the same ideals as Factory did, will be launched from Peter Street, Manchester in the Autumn. Name yet Undecided. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 20:24:00 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: blah...eyeroll...etc. On 7/21/03 1:01 PM, "Eb" wrote: > AP > > LOS ANGELES - Despite losing two of their four original band members, singer > Roger Daltrey and guitarist Pete Townshend plan on continuing as The Who. > > Daltrey said it's important to perform the music to the standard it deserves. > > "It really demands a certain level of performance," Daltrey told reporters. > "And as long as I can give it that, and he (Pete) can give it that, we will be > The Who. > Would it be too much trouble to maybe just come up with a new band name? Plant n' Page did it, fercrissakes. - -tc, sunburned from a day in Santa Cruz... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 01:17:49 -0400 From: "* randi/twofangs.productions *" Subject: let's active ~ 0% robyn content Hi Miles, Just read your post about Let's Active Tribute show ... > n.p. in my head: all the great music played at the Let's Active tribute show > Saturday night in Winston-Salem, NC -- y'all shoulda been there. Performers > included Mitch himself, with Faye Hunter joining the Fiendish Minstrels for an >all-Let's Active set. Should be an audio and/or DVD release of the show at some > point ... That sounds beyond awesome. You didn't happen to record the show did you? I heard Let's Active were going to be re-releasing their cds ... is this true? If so do you know what label and if they are remastered or contain bonus tracks that would make me need to buy the new ones? Any info so helpful :-) (say hi to Melissa for me) fading back into yesterday before tomorrow comes, Randi toronto, ontario, canada *what scares you most will set you free* ~ robyn hitchcock *by endurance we conquer* ~ sir ernest shackleton ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 08:28:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: All this wallpaper tastes the same On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > Here's what's unreadably hidden (in brackets and assuming > that AMG has their shit together): > > ["Intro" is just unlisted] > Sv[ef]n-G-Englar > Sta[r]alfur (with the accent also hidden) > Flu[gu]frelsarinn > N} Batterm > Hjart[a]u Hamast (Bamm Bamm Bamm) (tilde hidden) > Viu[r]ar Vel Til Loftarasa > O[l]sen Olsen > Agaetis Byrjun > Avalon Which is to say that people who don't know Icelandic (taht's how I meant to gloss "normal people" last time, but forgot to do so) would be pretty clueless...you're going to guess "ef" on the first title, for instance? - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::Never drive a car when you're dead:: __Tom Waits__ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:47:48 -0400 From: mary Subject: Sigur and Factory (0%RH) You can find the Sigur Ros song titles (along with the lyrics) on their website: http://www.sigur-ros.co.uk/band/lyrics.html I prefer Agaetis Byrjun to ( ) - don't own Von so I can't compare. Agaetis Byrjun definitely evokes a more emotional response from me, I consider ( ) to be too even handed - i.e., as Gene somewhat stated, you heard one you heard them all. And Ken posted some news of Tony Wilson and pals starting a new record label - that is interesting news. I do wish them the best! I watched "24 Hour Party People" the other day and that scene at the beginning where the Sex Pistols are playing in Manchester and Tony Wilson is pointing out the folks in the audience gives me goosebumps. To have been there at that time - - how exciting it must have been. Greetings to Randi - great to have you back girlfriend! s.Mary np - Clinic, "Walking With Thee" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:46:49 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Sigur and Factory (0%RH) On Tue, Jul 22, 2003, mary wrote: > And Ken posted some news of Tony Wilson and pals starting a new record > label - that is interesting news. I do wish them the best! I watched "24 > Hour Party People" the other day and that scene at the beginning where the > Sex Pistols are playing in Manchester and Tony Wilson is pointing out the > folks in the audience gives me goosebumps. To have been there at that time > - how exciting it must have been. Yes. Ah, to have met John the Postman! ;-) - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 07:58:59 -0500 (CDT) From: gshell@metronet.com Subject: Re: omg the scots are soft and buttery On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Groove Puppy wrote: > Semantics, but what pissed me off at the time was the > blanket statement about a "culture of fear" in > Scotland. I'm not aware of one, I assume you aren't > directly aware of one, and the legislation is also UK > wide, not specific to Scotland. i just stuck the name scotland in their because it was convenient. i think the "culture of fear" is an issue in all major 1st world cities. especially, but not limited to the west. > I got the point you were making but it really isn't > cool to generalize about someone elses home country. sorry, no offense meant. > On the other hand feel free to ask if we do have a > "culture of fear" or if all Scotsmen are naked under > the kilt or where to buy haggis hunting licenses, etc. is it true you can only kill a leprechaun with a shillaly? gSs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 08:59:50 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: All this snozberry tastes the same Eb challenged us all by asking: > Snozzberry? Whoever heard of a snozzberry? Chris Horn has: So has Snozberryband: -- which sheds light upon the origin of the term: Willie Wonka and The Chocolate Factory. I found this site searching for Snozberry, and just don't know what to say: ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:05:15 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: let's active ~ 0% robyn content At 01:17 AM 7/22/2003 -0400, * randi/twofangs.productions * wrote: >Hi Miles, > >Just read your post about Let's Active Tribute show ... > >> n.p. in my head: all the great music played at the Let's Active >tribute show >> Saturday night in Winston-Salem, NC -- y'all shoulda been there. >Performers >> included Mitch himself, with Faye Hunter joining the Fiendish >Minstrels for an >>all-Let's Active set. Should be an audio and/or DVD release of the >show at some >> point ... > >That sounds beyond awesome. > >You didn't happen to record the show did you? The show was recorded in both audio and video formats for eventual DVD release. (Special FegNote: Among the participants in the show was once (and perhaps future) Feg doug-mayo wells, playing with one of his stable of bands, King Kilowatt.) >I heard Let's Active were going to be re-releasing their cds ... is this >true? > >If so do you know what label and if they are remastered or contain bonus >tracks that would make me need to buy the new ones? The reissues are on Collector's Choice. I haven't picked up any of them, so I can't comment on the audio quality. BIG PLANS has two bonus tracks, '86 takes of songs that ended up on EVERY DOG; EVERY DOG itself has two Mitch-produced alternate takes as opposed to the regular-album John Leckie-produced ones. The tribute CD, which is *excellent,* is at >Any info so helpful :-) > >(say hi to Melissa for me) Gladly! She'll be glad that we heard from you! later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:17:05 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: blah...eyeroll At 04:45 PM 7/21/2003 -0700, Eb wrote: >> >...which requires finding a bassist who's as good as Entwistle, and a >>>drummer with the flair of Moon. How long do you think auditions would take >>>before they find people to reach those standards? >> >>I nominate Les Claypool as Entwistle's replacement. > >They should just drop "The Who," release an album under their own >names and have Steve Albini produce it. How can they lose? Eb, you're making my sides hurt here! Maybe that's your goal by being so funny recently -- to spread the stone-in-side pain? :-) later, Miles, who liked NO QUARTER but couldn't figure out what the heck WALKING INTO CLARKSDALE was trying to do (though the shows supporting the album were really good) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 08:26:14 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: David Barnes's bees > >http://ofmontreal.net/bee.html > >Maybe we should all pitch in and get one done of all three of us. I need >some new wallpaper for my computer anyway. David Barnes is cool. I often wear my Of Montreal t-shirt with the skull-headed bees on it. He liked my tinfoil sculpture, too. I say we go for it. Speaking of tinfoil sculptures, I sent away to a foil company (yes, there is such a thing) for a swatch book of different-colored confectioner's foil, the kind that's used for wrapping candy. There's all sorts of magnificent colors - royal blue, burgundy, orange, even BLACK - I can fulfill my dream of making a Goth tinfoil sculpture! I'm ecstatic! It's a dream come true! Now I have to buy some rolls of the stuff. Yee-haw!!! n. p.s. I saw the Jayhawks on Sunday, I'll post a review if anyone's interested... anyone interested? _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:49:53 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: omg the scots are soft and buttery On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 gshell@metronet.com wrote: > is it true you can only kill a leprechaun with a shillaly? That's Ireland, Greg, but the Gaelic spelling is just as weird. Shillelagh, possibly? Anyway, my information is that the fair folk are resistant to brute force. Your best bet is probably to discover their secret names, Rumpelstiltskin-style. And iron might be fatal to them as well. - - King Eiddileg n.p. Julian Bream and John Williams - La Vida Breve: Spanish Dance No.1 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:34:00 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: All this snozberry tastes the same >>Snozzberry? Whoever heard of a snozzberry? > > -- which sheds light upon the origin >of the term: Willie Wonka and The Chocolate Factory. This is one of those times where someone might be tempted to say "No shit, Sherlock?" Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:44:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: reap? Qusay and Uday? Let's not all start crying and making cassaroles at once. ===== "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:49:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: All this snozberry tastes the same Eb wrote: > >>Snozzberry? Whoever heard of a snozzberry? > > > > -- which sheds light > upon the origin > >of the term: Willie Wonka and The Chocolate Factory. > > This is one of those times where someone might be tempted > to say "No shit, Sherlock?" I think I may be the only so-called Gen X-er who never saw the movie nor read the book, so as such didn't get it. Haven't said "No shit, Sherlock" in a few years either. ===== "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:50:47 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: reap? >Qusay and Uday? > >Let's not all start crying and making cassaroles at once. > > Media spin? The article mentions "a dramatic four-hour battle," and yet makes no reference to any US casualties or injuries. Hm. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 14:54:48 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: All this snozberry tastes the same On Tue, Jul 22, 2003, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > I think I may be the only so-called Gen X-er who never saw > the movie nor read the book, so as such didn't get it. SEE IT! It's never too late. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 12:01:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: reap? Eb wrote: > >Qusay and Uday? > > > >Let's not all start crying and making cassaroles at > once. > > > > > > Media spin? The article mentions "a dramatic four-hour > battle," and yet makes no reference to any US casualties > or injuries. Hm. Yeah, but Rumsfeld etc don't give a shit about any of our soldiers, sadly. It is rather convenient of them to die right now in the midst of the Bushies being nailed for using forged intelligence. But W does seem to lead a perversely chamred life. Enough to make you believe in Satan, really. ===== "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 13:24:42 -0500 (CDT) From: gshell@metronet.com Subject: Re: reap? On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Eb wrote: > > > > Media spin? The article mentions "a dramatic four-hour battle," and > yet makes no reference to any US casualties or injuries. Hm. actually, injured as well as dead, captured or missing are all casualties by definition and it does mention that a single us soldier was injured. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 12:16:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: All this snozberry tastes the same Jeff Dwarf wrote: > Eb wrote: > > say "No shit, Sherlock?" > Haven't said "No shit, Sherlock" in a few years either. This was intended as bemused, not nasty. Just wanted to make that clear, since as it reads, it seems like it could be taken either way. ===== "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 20:56:49 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Holophonic sound Anyone hear of this stuff? Absolutely insane. It's like 3D sound, but through stereo. Download the samples and listen to them only with headphones, not speakers. - -Ken ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #283 ********************************