From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #280 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, July 19 2003 Volume 12 : Number 280 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: "prog doesnt help you pick up chicks" etc. [Jeff Dwarf ] Databasin' [Eb ] Re: Databasin' ["Glen Uber" ] Re: The Black Cow Knows [Tom Clark ] Re: omg the scots are soft and buttery [Groove Puppy ] Re: A puppy can have many of the same effects. [steve ] Re: Do federal laws require the label to state which predator? Shoul dn't they? [Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: "prog doesnt help you pick up chicks" etc. ross taylor wrote: > Dukes of StratospheAR reunion-- > > I'm slow on this, but does this line-up mean the old > original XTC? It means a reunion with Dave Gregory (and his brother on drums), but not Terry Chambers or Barry Andrews. ===== "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:35:04 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: The Black Cow Knows Hmmm, this is getting odd... a friend sent me this one today, unaware of the happenings on the feg list... http://www.shagrat.net/Html/cows.htm The Rent-a-Cow thing was the "weird link of the day" on the Straight Dope site yesterday. Rex "call out the instigators, because there's something in the air" Broome ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:22:43 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Databasin' Primus/Greet the Sacred Cow Blur/When the Cows Come Home Foo Fighters/For All the Cows They Might Be Giants/Cowtown Snow Patrol/Holy Cow Polyrock/Mean Cow K. McCarty/Walking the Cow Firehose/Walking the Cow Wir/No Cows on the Ice Pond/Happy Cow Farm Family The Wonder Stuff/The Size of a Cow The Kinks/Milk Cow Blues Elvis Costello/Sour Milk Cow Blues Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:29:13 -0700 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: Re: Databasin' Eb earnestly scribbled: >Primus/Greet the Sacred Cow >Blur/When the Cows Come Home >Foo Fighters/For All the Cows >They Might Be Giants/Cowtown >Snow Patrol/Holy Cow >Polyrock/Mean Cow >K. McCarty/Walking the Cow >Firehose/Walking the Cow >Wir/No Cows on the Ice >Pond/Happy Cow Farm Family >The Wonder Stuff/The Size of a Cow >The Kinks/Milk Cow Blues >Elvis Costello/Sour Milk Cow Blues > >Eb Cows With Guns by Dana Lyons is a staple of my live set. - -- Cheers! - -g- "In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments -- there are Consequences." - --R.G. Ingersoll ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:40:52 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: The Black Cow Knows on 7/18/03 3:35 PM, Rex.Broome at Rex.Broome@preferredmedia.com wrote: > Hmmm, this is getting odd... a friend sent me this one today, unaware of the > happenings on the feg list... > > http://www.shagrat.net/Html/cows.htm I just couldn't get past the fact that they kept referring to the cow as "him". Cow well hung, - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:26:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Groove Puppy Subject: Re: omg the scots are soft and buttery gss sed > i disagree. the culture of fear is what has made > carrying a pocket knife a crime in scotland. This is a wholly incorrect statement! Hamish ===== CHUCKHOLE All that great punk rock taste with only half the calories. http://clix.to/chuckhole http://www.mp3.com/chuckhole __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 11:52:14 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Les jeunes ratons laveurs de France, ils disent "oum!" >>Lots of Fegs here garden, right? Do you have a special >>secret for discouraging raccoons? live somewhere they don't. I wonder if mothballs would work with possums... and as far as camping is concerned, nothing is as bad as kea. - --- > It's the day of the cow. > >- -Mike Keneally, 1993 anyone going to counter with the lyrics to TMBG's "Cowtown" or Forest for the Trees' "Infinite Cow"? >http://www.kithfan.org/work/transcripts/two/cownight.html this is all getting very Gary Larsen... - --- >>>I take it you've heard Nigel Planer's version of that (in his Young One >>>Neil persona) on "Neil's heavy Concept Album? > >No. Should do, huh? I was in a band once-removed from a band that was >named for a line from the Young Ones, so I probably deserve a fine for this >gap in my collection... I'm not going to recommend it as such, I'm just saying that Planer's voice is better than you might expect, and if you liked the Young Ones (and 60s British psychedelia) you'd probably get something out of it. - --- >i think french will soon be classified as a dead language >so they should all start speaking dutch or spanish. maybe we should build >a fence around france. as far as language is concerned, they're busy doing that for themselves. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:49:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Les jeunes ratons laveurs de France, ils disent "oum!" On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, James Dignan wrote: > anyone going to counter with the lyrics to TMBG's "Cowtown" or Forest > for the Trees' "Infinite Cow"? I'm not going to type out the whole tune or cut and paste it or anything, but I will mention that "Cowtown" contains one of the best absurd lyrical bits in the world: The yellow roosevelt avenue leaf overturned. If I could, I would write stuff like that all day long. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 20:17:57 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Night Of The Cow Quoting Tom Clark : > on 7/18/03 2:44 PM, da9ve stovall at da9ve@geek.com wrote: > > >> From: "Rex.Broome" > >> Umm, this past digest contained both the word "anycow" and the > > word > >> "cow-orker". Or am I seeing the fnords in my own uniquely bovine > > way? > http://www.kithfan.org/work/transcripts/two/cownight.html Or: ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb :: --Batman ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 20:51:25 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: A puppy can have many of the same effects. On Friday, July 18, 2003, at 10:43 AM, ross taylor wrote: > A puppy can have many of the same effects. Should anyfeg close enough to the Dallas/Ft. Worth area want to try this out, or just want one, we've got 5 new puppies. Their mother, who showed up in our garage about three weeks ago, is said to be pretty much a black Lab. Obviously, the other side of the family is unknown, but 4 of the puppies have her color. The fifth is a blonde. Mom dog is very sweet and smart. The vet checked the puppies today and said they look good. She was rather surprised to spot the pups last week, as she thinks their mother is well past the normal age of doggy fertility. Mom dog, btw, did not ponder the correctness of placenta eating. Each and every one was consumed with dispatch. The cats seem to be mostly unconcerned, although some of the perverse critters are lusting after the puppy food. - - Steve __________ Al Franken: Clintons military did pretty well in Iraq, huh? Paul Wolfowitz: Fuck you. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:56:41 -0400 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: 250K is a steep fine. News from the File Nazi Front: http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105_2-1026715.html House proposal targets file swappers By Declan McCullagh CNET News.com July 17, 2003, 8:11 AM PT Peer-to-peer users who swap copyrighted files could be in danger of becoming federal felons, under a new proposal backed by Democrats in the U.S. House of Representatives. Their legislation, introduced Wednesday, would punish an Internet user who shares even a single file without permission from a copyright holder with prison terms of up to five years and fines of up to $250,000. Written by Michigan's John Conyers, the senior Democrat on the House judiciary committee, the Author, Consumer, and Computer Owner Protection and Security Act (ACCOPS) represents Congress' boldest attempt yet to shutter peer-to-peer networks, which the major record labels and movie studios view as a serious threat. Currently, under a little-known 1997 law called the No Electronic Theft Act, many P2P users are technically already violating criminal laws. But if the ACCOPS bill were to succeed, prosecutors would not have to prove that a copyrighted file was repeatedly downloaded. Conyers' proposal would require them to prove only that the file was publicly accessible. Other sponsors of ACCOPS are Reps. Howard Berman of California, Adam Schiff of California, Marty Meehan of Massachusetts, Robert Wexler of Florida and Anthony Weiner of New York. No Republican has supported the proposal. One legal scholar viewed the legislation as an over-the-top measure. "The business of expanding the criminal law so that making unauthorized personal copies of copyrighted works becomes a criminal violation is overreacting six ways from Tuesday," said Jessica Litman, who teaches copyright law at Wayne State University. "It's exceptional. But that does seem to be what the bill is trying to do." Litman said that, without ACCOPS, criminal copyright infringement currently is "hard to prove, because you (have) to prove that a copy was actually distributed." The Electronic Frontier Foundation, a civil liberties group in San Francisco, also criticized the bill. "Jailing people for file sharing is not the answer," EFF lawyer Fred von Lohmann said. "Proponents of this bill are casting aside privacy, innovation and even our personal liberty as collateral damage in their war against file sharing." ACCOPS would also do the following: . Require that anyone distributing certain search software include a notice that "clearly and conspicuously" warns downloaders that the software may offer a security and privacy risk. The definition of search software is broad and includes any application that "enables third parties to store data" on a computer. Violators could face up to six months in prison. . Punish anyone who knowingly provides false contact information, with intent to defraud, while registering a domain name. Penalties would include fines and up to five years in prison. . Order the U.S. Department of Justice to share information with foreign governments to aid in tracking suspected copyright infringers. Information that can be shared includes "the technological means through which violations of the copyright law has occurred" and "the identity and location of the person who has committed such violation." . Create a new copyright crime of recording a "motion picture as it is being performed or displayed in a motion picture theater." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:17:15 +0200 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: Do federal laws require the label to state which predator? Shoul dn't they? On Venerdl, lug 18, 2003, at 19:31 Europe/Rome, gshell@metronet.com wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Rex.Broome wrote: >>>> you can get predator urine at the feed store to help discourage the >>>> raccoons from the garden >> >> Hmmm. Good to know. > > questions bring answers. > Remember: "Questions are a burden for others. Answers are a prison for oneself." >> -Rex, not sure he could locate a "feed store" locally but luckily in >> no rush >> to queue up for predator urine anyhow > > yeah you could. i have visited feed stores in la and sacremento, near > danville and way down in chula vista. they probably have it at lawn and > garden supply stores as well. you can buy deer urine at walmart. i have > little respect and therfore no trust for anyone who would cover > themselves > in deer urine. it is a common practice throughout north america. In a former life - in Oakland - we had a real problem with our night bandit brothers. A neighbor across the street woke up one night with a raccoon in the bedroom, little paw in the fish tank. Imagine the surprise when you wake to a wild animal (yes, cute, but wild) in your bedroom at 3 in the morning. Seems they are very good at getting in cat doors. - - c ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 22:48:30 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Do federal laws require the label to state which predator? Shoul dn't they? Carrie Galbraith wrote: > > Imagine the > surprise when you wake to a wild animal (yes, cute, but wild) in your > bedroom at 3 in the morning. Ah, I guess you don't know about the "raccoonfriends" mailing list, where several members let raccoons sleep in/on their beds during the day. Stewart ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #280 ********************************