From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #264 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, July 11 2003 Volume 12 : Number 264 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: face the placenta [Aaron Mandel ] Bobbing for Beatles ["Rex.Broome" ] freddie's thrifty acres, and Wilco x 2 ["Natalie Jane" ] RE: freddie's thrifty acres, and Wilco x 2 ["Jason Brown \(Echo Services ] Re: Necessary Measures [Ken Weingold ] Re: Bobbing for Beatles [Jeff Dwarf ] RE: Necessary Measures [UglyNoraGrrl@aol.com] Wilco: go! [Miles Goosens ] Re: Byrds & Beatles covers [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: CCing/Scots [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: city size [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] RE: The return of Soundstage on PBS (Tori Amos content) ["Brian Huddell" ] RE: Necessary Measures [Eb ] Re: Byrds & Beatles covers [Eb ] has anybody else noticed ["Brian Huddell" ] Re: Target (was "everything else") [steve ] Re: has anybody else noticed [Tom Clark ] Re: My friends among those West Virginia hills [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey] Re: My friends among those West Virginia hills [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:01:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: face the placenta On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > Isn't Judybats and not a very good song synonymous? No. Thanks for asking, though; I'm glad we could get that straightened out. a ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:22:07 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Bobbing for Beatles Eddie: >>do polar bears, for example, engage in oral sex? or monkeys? Damn sure monkeys do. And dogs and other quadropeds seem to self-fellate from time to time, because, as the saying goes, they can. Never seen one finish himself off, though; that seem to be the exclusive province of Ron Jeremy. >>- --between roghly 1980 and 1990, possibly every haircut of mine occurred at >>bellevue fred meyer. My brother would occasionally get his hair cut at Wal-Mart before he left town (the Wal-Mart actually antedates my residence in the area). He would call these haircuts "Wal-Cuts". The prefix was then adapted to any other substandard shit you could get at Wal-Mart. I remember being on a roadtrip with my family some time later when my mom was repeatedly heckled for purchasing "Wal-Chicken" as a snack. >>It's All Too Much/The House of Love The Church did a good version as well. Never heard the House of Love version but I'd assume it sounds A Lot Like The Church's But Not Quite as Good (that being the definition of the House of Love). >>Everybodys Got Something to Hide.../Kristin Hersh As much as I love Kristin, and this cover, the Feelies' version eats it alive. However, the Thowing Muses cover of "Cry Baby Cry" is a beauty. And one of the few instances I know of where an artist wrote a song with the same name as a preexisting song and then did a cover version of said song. (Has Robyn ever covered Lennon's "Love" in a live set?) >>She Loves You/Peter Sellers Heh heh... I have the version of that with the f-word in it. >>Tomorrow Never Knows/801 And the Chameleons... ISTR James has 321.75 separate recordings of that tune... And what's this? Why, it's "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" performed by none other than the G*me Th*oreticians! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:13:33 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: freddie's thrifty acres, and Wilco x 2 >anyhow, some fred meyer adventures: > >- --my step-brother and i once thought we saw lenny wilkens at the bellevue >store. A couple of months ago, I walked into the SE Portland Fred Meyer and was rather stunned to see my songwriting hero, Quasi's Sam Coomes, standing in line at the checkout counter. I guess I shouldn't have been THAT stunned, since he lives in Portland, but it was still kind of surreal. Back in Ann Arbor there's a 24-hour chain supermarket store called Meijer's Thrifty Acres, or Meijer's for short. Dunno how widespread the chain is, but there's two in Ann Arbor at least. It's very similar to Fred Meyer in that it sells just about everything (even pets!). It was odd to come out to Portland and find a similarly-named, similar store here. Kind of comforting, actually. On a geekier note, I just discovered that Jane the Timeline Chick's second-favorite band Wilco are playing a second show in Oregon, in Eugene, after I already shelled out $67 for the first one (with REM). They're headlining this one. I'm trying to decide whether or not to road-trip down there and spend yet more money. I want to see them headline, but on the other hand, I don't like seeing bands twice on the same tour, because of recycled setlists. Jane assures me the shows will be "different," but it seems to me that a truly heavy-duty fan is able to find nuances that pass by the rest of us. "Sure, they played 'California Stars' last night, but didn't you notice that tonight, Jeff Tweedy coughed in the middle of the second verse? It's like a totally different song!" You think I should go to Eugene, Miles? You're the expert. :) n. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:20:08 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Re: PHX (was "Fred Meyer (was "everything else")") >Sorry, Marc. I don't mean to diss your greater metro, but, well, ok, I guess I do. BFD. I like it hot and dry. It was only about 105 F when you were here, Tom. It looks like we'll fall short of the forcast 116 F today, but seem to be on track to passing Philadelphia and become the 5th largest US city next year (not that I'm hoping for that at all). Later, Marc I think the mistake a lot of us make is thinking the state-appointed psychiatrist is our "friend." Jack Handey ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:20:17 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Necessary Measures >Eddie/Ken: >in my pre-vegan days, i was a Cheeze-It FIEND. i mean, for fucking *real*. Ahhh, now this explains everything. Grrl: >Maybe i'm oversensitive becausxe im a female hockey fan butI'll >never understand why people shit on hockey so much. It is the >perfect combination of skills, toughness, and speed. > >Eb, what exactly is your beef with hockey? Lemme think. 1. The players look like overstuffed trash bags. 2. Much as with auto-racing, I feel that any sport where the prime highlights are the *collisions* ain't much of a sport. 3. Any sport which is so ungainly such that the playing field is *that* small yet produces so few scoring opportunities ain't much of a sport. 4. None of the players -- or fans -- have teeth. The players from falling on the ice, the fans from drinkin' too much moonshine and forgettin' to brush der teef. 5. The games usually occur in cities, and all cities are bad. 6. I don't shit on hockey. I only cum in its hair. >Heh heh. I heard George Brett say recently that the pine tar >incident had turned out to be a great for him in the long as most >people now associate him with pine tar rather than hemorroids. I would think most baseball folks would associate him with being the last guy to make a serious run at hitting .400? No? I don't even remember the pine-tar incident very well, anymore. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:21:14 -0700 From: "Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" Subject: RE: freddie's thrifty acres, and Wilco x 2 > On a geekier note, I just discovered that Jane the Timeline Chick's > second-favorite band Wilco are playing a second show in Oregon, in Eugene, > after I already shelled out $67 for the first one (with REM). Wow. REM and Wilco cost $67! I am now happier than ever that they are both playing at Bumbershoot in Seattle as part of the regular ticket price of no more than $20 for a non-advance one day ticket. Yeah sure you have to get there pretty early to get a wrist band but then you can check other stuff out for the rest of the day. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:37:12 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Necessary Measures On Thu, Jul 10, 2003, Eb wrote: > 2. Much as with auto-racing, I feel that any sport where the prime > highlights are the *collisions* ain't much of a sport. You're thinking of NASCAR. NASCAR really gives the art of auto racing a bad name. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:43:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Bobbing for Beatles "Rex.Broome" wrote: > Never seen one > finish himself off, though; that seem to be the exclusive > province of Ron Jeremy. I had a friend in high school who says he did; he was certainly flexible enough for it to be semi-believable; never asked for demonstration though. > >>It's All Too Much/The House of Love > > The Church did a good version as well. Never heard the > House of Love version but I'd assume it sounds A Lot Like > The Church's But Not Quite as Good (that being the > definition of the House of Love). I think you have that backwards.... > >>Everybody's Got Something to Hide.../Kristin Hersh > > As much as I love Kristin, and this cover, the Feelies' > version eats it alive. Never heard the feelies' version; few Feelies songs I've heard kinda eh'd me. > However, the Throwing Muses cover of "Cry Baby > Cry" is a beauty. It drives me batty though, since Kristin keeps fucking up the words; same thing drives me nuts about Richard Thompson's "Kiss" from the bonus cd in Old Kit Bag. (as opposed to something like "Heartbreak Hotel" by TSB where Robyn is deliberation mutating the words). > >>She Loves You/Peter Sellers > > Heh heh... I have the version of that with the f-word in > it. > > >>Tomorrow Never Knows/801 > > And the Chameleons... ISTR James has 321.75 separate > recordings of that tune... The Chameleons' is good too. Phil Collins? erm, well, > And what's this? Why, it's "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" > performed by none other than the G*me Th*oreticians! ===== "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:03:52 -0400 From: UglyNoraGrrl@aol.com Subject: RE: Necessary Measures Eb Tide: > Grrl: > >Eb, what exactly is your beef with hockey? > > 1. The players look like overstuffed trash bags. Since when did attractive players matter? > 2. Much as with auto-racing, I feel that any sport where the prime > highlights are the *collisions* ain't much of a sport. So american football ain't much of a sport? > 3. Any sport which is so ungainly such that the playing field is > *that* small yet produces so few scoring opportunities ain't much of > a sport. Hmmm, let me guess you'd find a 1-0 baseball game boring too. > 4. None of the players -- or fans -- have teeth. The players from > falling on the ice, the fans from drinkin' too much moonshine and > forgettin' to brush der teef. Oh ok i get it athletes need to be purty for you to enjoy their sports. > >Heh heh. I heard George Brett say recently that the pine tar > >incident had turned out to be a great for him in the long as most > >people now associate him with pine tar rather than hemorroids. > > I would think most baseball folks would associate him with being the > last guy to make a serious run at hitting .400? No? I don't even > remember the pine-tar incident very well, anymore. I think he meant amongst the public at large. "hey arent you that pine tar dude" has replaced "hey how are your hemmeroids". One would hope a baseball fan would freak because he's fucking George Brett. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:30:55 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Wilco: go! Natalie: >On a geekier note, I just discovered that Jane the Timeline Chick's >second-favorite band Wilco are playing a second show in Oregon, in Eugene, > >after I already shelled out $67 for the first one (with REM). They're >headlining this one. I'm trying to decide whether or not to road-trip >down >there and spend yet more money. I want to see them headline, but on the >other hand, I don't like seeing bands twice on the same tour, because of >recycled setlists. Jane assures me the shows will be "different," but it >seems to me that a truly heavy-duty fan is able to find nuances that pass >by >the rest of us. "Sure, they played 'California Stars' last night, but >didn't you notice that tonight, Jeff Tweedy coughed in the middle of the >second verse? It's like a totally different song!" > >You think I should go to Eugene, Miles? You're the expert. :) Woo hoo! Even if I can't be the West Virginia expert, being the Wilco concert advisory expert is a nice consolation. :-) My advice is absolutely positively *yes.* We did exactly the same thing last time Wilco was on tour as an opener with R.E.M. -- we drove to Columbus, OH, to visit friends, and we all went to Cleveland on Wednesday to see the R.E.M./Wilco show at Blossom. After we returned to Columbus, Thursday afternoon I wondered "hm, it'd be even nicer to see Wilco headline - will they be touring after they're not the R.E.M. opener?" So I went to the Wilco website and saw that they were headlining a last-minute gig that very Saturday (an R.E.M. off-day) at a little club in Chattanooga. Why, local Nashville favorite Josh Rouse was even opening! So we changed our plans, and when we drove to Cincinnati on Friday, instead of heading down the I-71 side of the I-71/I-75 fork and going back home, we took the I-75 side and headed on down to Chattanooga. Can't guarantee you exactly the same thing, but here's just option 1 vs. also taking option 2: 1) Wilco playing 45-50 minutes, probably outdoors or in an arena, with only half the people in their seats and maybe only a third of those people listening while the others mill, talk, drink, etc. Band plays very well. "I want to thank you all for nothing [x125] nothing at all" takes on a delicious irony, but only you and ten other people notice it. 2) Wilco playing for 150-180 minutes in (presumably) a theatre or club, at least half the crowd is really into it, and the band is on fire. Tweedy and company play practically everything they've got worked up, and when they run out of stuff they play "Immigrant Song" with the guitar tech donning a robe and headgear and doing an eerily precise imitation of Plant's vocal. Even if it's as out there as the 1999 club date I just described, Wilco's second Nashville show last year, at the Ryman instead of outdoors among blabbing scenesters who drowned out the band (really!), was different than the first one not just in terms of setting, but in setlist and quality, and if I'd said "I've already seen them this tour," I would have missed out on an amazing live experience. Go go go go go go! later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 12:40:17 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Byrds & Beatles covers >a really odd "Goin' Back" >by Eugene Chadbourne (technically a Goffin-King tune, but Chadbourne himself >misattributed it)... That song always gets me - the Dusty Springfield and Pretenders versions, too. >- -Rex, who almost did the same thing with Beatles and Velvets covers until he >realized that would be insane. I'm slowly listing the Beatles covers I have towards the insane aim of making up cover albums (inspired by the generally weak - with one or two exceptions - "Sgt. Pepper knew my father" album). Trouble is there's at least one missing track from each so far. Then again, I haven't gone out of my way to hunt down the missing tracks. >Anyway, since then, I've thought of putting together a compilation of >great Beatles' covers, but have never actually sat down to do it. In >addition to the aforementioned Elton John and Adrian Belew tracks, I'd >probably have to include Eddie Hazel's "I Want You (She's So Heavy)", >Siouxsie & the Banshees' "Dear Prudence," Todd Rundgren's "Strawberry >Fields Forever," Stevie Wonder's "We Can Work It Out," Earth Wind & >Fire's "Got To Get You Into My Life" and Robyn's "A Day In The Life". Glen, if you'd like to see the list I've got, email me offlist! >What would be on your "Best Beatles' Covers" comp CD? Flying Lizards - Money Heart - Long Tall Sally/I'm Down (yeah, guilty pleasure, I know) Adrian Belew - If I fell Sly & Robbie - Ticket to Ride Jimi Hendrix - Day Tripper Cornershop - Norwegian Wood (This Bird Had Flown) Phil Collins - Tomorrow Never Knows (no, seriously!) Robyn Hitchcock - Rain Michelle Shocked - Lovely Rita Billy Bragg & Cara Tivey - She's leaving home Throwing Muses - Cry baby cry Siouxsie & the Banshees - Dear Prudence Gryphon - Mother Nature's Son Robyn Hitchcock - Yer Blues The Church - It's all too much Teenage fanclub - The ballad of John and Yoko I'd also, for the sake of comedy, add Rick Springfield's hilarious version of Eleanor Rigby, and for the sake of weirdness, Robert Palmer and Gary Numan performing "Not a second time" >- -Rex (who's been involved in covering "Day Tripper", "A Hard Day's Night", >"You've Got to Hide Your Love Away", "She Said She Said", "In My Life", and >probably hells more in informal jam sessions, not to mention "Act Naturally" >which everyone thinks is a Beatles tune but was done in the spirit of Mr. >Owens, not Ringo) James (who has home recorded "Tomorrow never knows", and performed "In my life", "I've just seen a face", and "If I fell", plus the same sort of jam sessions details as above) James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 12:40:53 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: CCing/Scots >Actually I usually do it the other way round, and like it when somebody >does the same with replies to my mails: set the personal address as To: and >Cc: the list. That shows it as it is: you reply to the person and want the >list to share. To me that best reflects the actual meaning of To: and Cc:. >If I want to address the list in general, I put the list as To:. > >But that's just me, apparently ... I try to do the same thing, if I remember. >At the Smithsonian's annual Folklife Festival this year, one of the >featured folks was the Scots, and many of the written displays there were >trilingual, in English, Gaelic and Scots. Apparently the Scots word for >"people" is "fowk." Which is a lot funnier than "folk." I have a copy of the New testament in Lalland Scots. Some of it is hilarious. As Jesus says in Matthew, ch. 5: Again - "Onie-ane at say til his brither 'Ye bee-heidit gowk!' maun thole an assize afore the council." But I say "Onie-ane at say til his brither 'Ye muckle sumph!' maun thole an assize afore ane at can duim till the lowes o Hell" >And they had deep-fried Mars bars at the food tent not as good as Mars Ice Cream bars. >Oh, we're also told to say "Scots" and not "Scotch" >too, which is just bullshit. The general rule is Scotch for products, Scots for people and language, Scottish for anything else. Of course, there are exceptions to this rule, and Stewart will be able to correct all this... James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 12:41:51 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: city size >> it seems...). I should introduce young Meran to Robyn's music, I think. >> How >> many five-year-olds know what an ouroborus is (and can probably spell it >> better than I can)? > >I think that's spelled right - isn't that the snake swallowing its own tail? yup. I think it's spelt right, too, but I couldn't find it in the dictionary. Perhaps I should just go and ask Meran. >When Lou Reed played here recently, he started out by asking the audience >"Who thinks they live in a city?" When no one raised their hand, he said >something to the effect of "Good, I won't need to set you straight on that >then." (Phoenix has over 1.3 million people--6th largest in the US, with the >metro area probably exceeding 2.5 to 3 million). When he talks about small >towns/cities, he's talking more about the community and overall identity. >I'd have to agree in this regard. Phoenix has some unusal characteristics, >but no real identity or feeling of community. New York, Boston, Chicago, LA, >SF, etc. all have their identifiable stereo-typical residents and culture. >Pittsburg probably does fit better into the small town group when you look >at it this way. Later, Marc all that fuss about city size made me look up some stats, and Arizona was by far the closest match to NZ as far as area and population are concerned. Even its highest mountain is almost the same height as Mt Cook. Plus Auckland's Phoenix-sized (1.2m), Wellington/Hutt Valley is Tucson-sized (450k), Mesa's a bit smaller that Christchurch's 300k, but Dunedin Hamilton and Napier-Hastings would match up with Tempe, Glendale, and Scottsdale. Most of our other provincial centres are about Yuma sized. So if, for any weird reason, you're trying to picture the size of NZ, just think a long thin Arizona in the South Pacific, with a slightly longer coastline and a few more sheep. It also sounds like Auckland's like Phoenix in other ways. A small town centre, surrounded by endless suburbs, road junctions, and light industry, trying to fool the world that it's a city. Then again, thinking Auckland is 'the real New Zealand' is like trying to convince people in Eureka or Redding that LA is 'the real California'. NZ's other cities are much smaller, but they have real identities (Dunedin and Wellington are both often compared to San Francisco from that point of view). If you've read this far, you probably need to get a life James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:43:57 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: The return of Soundstage on PBS (Tori Amos content) Gene: > Dennis DeYoung! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:39:02 -0700 From: Eb Subject: RE: Necessary Measures I-bet-there's-a-great-anagram-for-UglyNoraGrrl-but-I'm-too-lazy-to-deduce-it: > > 1. The players look like overstuffed trash bags. > >Since when did attractive players matter? What are you, Communist? >So american football ain't much of a sport? When you see the highlights of a football game on TV, you rarely see a mere "hit" unless it was something especially spectacular or an injury occurred. >Hmmm, let me guess you'd find a 1-0 baseball game boring too. Not if the players were cute. > > 4. None of the players -- or fans -- have teeth. The players from >> falling on the ice, the fans from drinkin' too much moonshine and >> forgettin' to brush der teef. > >Oh ok i get it athletes need to be purty for you to enjoy their sports. Right. More purty men required! And I'll give you another gripe about hockey: The triple salchows almost *never* have good extension. >One would hope a baseball fan would freak because he's fucking George Brett. Admittedly, that experience would freak me out a little too. Gary Payton hates your mom, Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:50:32 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Byrds & Beatles covers > >What would be on your "Best Beatles' Covers" comp CD? > >Flying Lizards - Money >Heart - Long Tall Sally (yeah, guilty pleasure, I know) Those are Beatles-Covers Covers, not Beatles covers. Eb PS I hope this debate about CCing/mailing-list protocol continues for weeks, because it keeps getting just more and more interesting. ;) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 22:19:36 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: has anybody else noticed that multiple miseries have made Eb extremely fucking funny lately? I'm genuinely sorry about the multiple miseries but I sure am enjoying the extremely funny. +brian (multiple boredoms just make me boring) in New Orleans ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 22:27:57 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Target (was "everything else") On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 10:27 AM, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > I'll have to step in w/Miles and defend Target here too. Products aside, Target's politics used to piss off the fundies on a regular basis, and that can't be a bad thing. I haven't heard much about this lately, probably because they're too busy raising a Christian Army to invade Canada (after they kill the turncoats on the Supreme Court). - - Steve __________ I was in my car on Thursday, when all this was beginning, listening to Ari Fleischer on the radio. Listen, Josef Goebbels would have been proud of him! - Stanley I. Kutler ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 21:23:56 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: has anybody else noticed On 7/10/03 8:19 PM, "Brian Huddell" wrote: > that multiple miseries have made Eb extremely fucking funny lately? I'm > genuinely sorry about the multiple miseries but I sure am enjoying the > extremely funny. > Yes! I was seconds away from asking "who kidnapped Eb and replaced him with Mort Sahl?" - -t "must be the medication" c ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 23:27:46 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: My friends among those West Virginia hills Quoting "Rex.Broome" : > I'm maybe a rarity in that I really like Verlaine's songwriting. I'll > cop > to the unevenness of his solo catalog but I also think it's underrated. > I'm > maybe slightly less overwhelmed by his solo debut than some fans, but I > would put forth Dreamtime as a really great record with less reservation > than Flash Light-- it seems less dated despite being older and has a > wonderful balance between ferocity and lyricism. My flabber is still gasted from Miles' words: although if you, Miles, don't like Television either, they'll make more sense to me. Anyway, I love all of Verlaine's solo stuff (although the later ones not as much, and I've never, uh, warmed to _Warm and Cool_ (the instrumental one). > As Eb mentions, "Words from the Front" and "Cover" are the weakest of > the > bunch (suffering mostly from contemporaneous '80's mannerisms), but with > worthwhile moments on each. Please note, though, that the CD version of > "Cover" actually sucks, being in the wrong sequence, ommitting one tune > and > clumsily truncating another-- it's a real botched job and the real record > is > much better. I'd replace _Words from the Front_ with _The Wonder_ as one of the two weakest - although I agree there's still plenty of good stuff on there. I'm awful with titles - I think it's "Stalingrad" that I really like on _The Wonder_. > There's still one in Keyser, but some outfit called Sheetz seems to be > proliferating wildly along the interstates. "Sheetz"?!? Even as a name for a bedding supply store, that's pretty awful - as a name for any other kind of store, it's just giggle-inducing, esp. w/that "z" on the end. Okay, so I'm twelve years old... ..Jeff, ooops suddenly remembering the Mexican pork sandwich he had for lunch... J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb :: --Batman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 21:37:50 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: My friends among those West Virginia hills > > As Eb mentions, "Words from the Front" and "Cover" are the weakest of >> the > > bunch > >I'd replace _Words from the Front_ with _The Wonder_ as one of the two >weakest I've never heard that one. It wasn't even released in the States, was it? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 23:43:31 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Beatles coverology Quoting "Rex.Broome" : > Glen: > >>What would be on your "Best Beatles' Covers" comp CD? > > That's almost too wide of a field to contemplate. Plus, there's > really no such thing as "an obscure Beatles song", and I find the value > of > most covers to be in either reinterpretation or reminding you of a great > song that you'd forgotten all about. Nobody's forgetting any Beatles > tunes. True - but there certainly are rarely covered Beatles songs (like "Revolution No. 9" and "You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)"). As for the former, I recommend wholeheartedly the Shazam's cover, retitled "Rev 9," which actually attempts to make a song of sorts out of "Revolution No. 9" (parts end up sounding rather like the Who...). I rather like covers, at least if they do *something*, and have made four or five mixes full of 'em. I was going to do a series of three double-album cover mixes, called "The Big Boys," to consist of covers of Beatles, Dylan, and the Stones. I may yet do that... To me the idea is to find versions that are relatively obscure & remake the tracks, as opposed to just saying "now we're going to play this Beatles song everyone knows." Do "Free as a Bird" and "Real Love" count as Beatles covers? ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb :: --Batman ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #264 ********************************