From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #262 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, July 10 2003 Volume 12 : Number 262 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Talkin' 'Bout My Degeneration ["FS Thomas" ] Re: Talkin' 'Bout My Degeneration ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: more icky childbirth stuff [gshell@metronet.com] Scotland stuff [Christopher Gross ] Re: Fred Meyer (was "everything else") [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: Talkin' 'Bout My Degeneration [gshell@metronet.com] Re: Talkin' 'Bout My Degeneration ["Daniel L. Cotten" ] Re: more icky childbirth stuff ["Jason R. Thornton" ] My friends among those West Virginia hills ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: face the placenta [Aaron Mandel ] Re: In Memoriam: Ebby Budsen ["Daniel L. Cotten" ] Re: PHX (was "Fred Meyer (was "everything else")") [Tom Clark ] Re: In Memoriam: Paul Kariya [Tom Clark ] Re: In Memoriam: Paul Kariya [Eb ] Re: In Memoriam: Buddy Ebsen ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Byrds covers ["Rex.Broome" ] Robot Rock Critic ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] RE: everything else [Miles Goosens ] RE: Robot Rock Critic ["Michael Wells" ] Beatles' covers (Robyn content 0.17%) ["Glen Uber" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:15:47 -0400 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: Talkin' 'Bout My Degeneration Daltrey comes to the defense of Townshend regarding his recent run-ins with the law: http://launch.yahoo.com/read/news.asp?contentID=214073 - --- (7/9/03, 3 p.m. ET) -- Roger Daltrey has blasted British authorities for the way they dealt with Pete Townshend and his child pornography arrest in January. Daltrey told the U.K. newspaper the Daily Telegraph that his Who bandmate "didn't deserve to be treated like a criminal because that's the last thing he is...There was a huge breach of his civil liberties, and I don't think we should sit back and watch that kind of thing happen without fighting it." Townshend admitted to using his credit card to visit a child porn website. He claimed it was for research for his upcoming autobiography, which will detail his own sexual abuse as a child. Townshend was arrested but never officially charged with a crime, and after a lengthy investigation, he was placed on the British sex offenders registry, where his name will stay for five years. Daltrey said that police examined 14 computers belonging to Townshend and found nothing on them, causing him to ask, "What are we becoming? The f--king Taliban? Pete's an artist and may have been naive, but he did nothing wrong and told the truth from the start. But he was treated as though he was guilty of the worst crimes and crucified without a trial by people with no accountability. It's a f--king disgrace. Everything they did to him was appalling." Daltrey added, "If [Townshend] had told a pack of lies, they wouldn't have come after him. But he didn't hide anything and paid a price for being honest. He has a long history of working to help abused people, and has spent a lot of time thinking about the problem. That's just a fact. But nobody wanted to listen to his explanation, and now--too late--they find he's guilty of doing nothing." While Daltrey is upset with the authorities, he's also unhappy with the reaction from the population at large. "If this was the '60s, more people would see this witch hunt for what it is and start a protest," he said. "It's not just about Pete. It's about having some control over our lives and not letting the police do whatever they want...Not many people think for themselves now. They're like wallpaper. Well, they'd better wake up and think about what happened to Pete, because that wasn't the end of anything. It was the beginning of a witch hunt and nobody's safe." Daltrey also talked about the death last June of bassist John Entwistle. He said it really wasn't a surprise to him: "John hadn't looked healthy for a long time. I'm a big believer in alternative medicine and healthy living, and I can tell when someone looks ill. I saw it in John's pallor and his eyes. He lived hard and he took risks. Whenever I saw him in the last few years, I always made a habit of giving him a big hug before I left him. I was never sure I'd see him again." However, Daltrey salutes the way Entwistle went out, in bed with a stripper. He said, "Ask any man what he would prefer--to live to a ripe old age and die alone or to go out shagging your b-lls off with strippers in Vegas? Come on, let's be honest. It's not a death that any man should be ashamed of." On a happier note, Daltrey told the paper that he and Townshend will start work on a new album soon, which will be followed by a tour. "We're not going to give up now," he said. "As long as Pete's there on guitar, and I'm there to sing the lead, you're going to have the Who. The sound is still there. And in my opinion, Pete's getting better as the years go by. Nothing is going to stop us, not the government or the press or anybody. We're going to keep playing until we drop dead." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:00:28 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: Talkin' 'Bout My Degeneration >From: "FS Thomas" >Subject: Talkin' 'Bout My Degeneration >Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:15:47 -0400 >Daltrey comes to the defense of Townshend regarding his recent run-ins >with the law: >http://launch.yahoo.com/read/news.asp?contentID=214073 >However, Daltrey salutes the way Entwistle went out, in bed with a >stripper. He said, "Ask any man what he would prefer--to live to a ripe >old age and die alone or to go out shagging your b-lls off with >strippers in Vegas? Come on, let's be honest. It's not a death that any >man should be ashamed of." Wow, how did I miss the in bed with a stripper part of the obit? Max _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:54:20 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: Talkin' 'Bout My Degeneration At 09:00 AM 7/10/2003 -0400, Maximilian Lang wrote: >Wow, how did I miss the in bed with a stripper part of the obit? I'm thinking that part was omitted. - -f. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:18:58 -0500 (CDT) From: gshell@metronet.com Subject: Re: more icky childbirth stuff On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Eb wrote: > >GShell/Unabomber: wrong. that fucker was partisan, plus i would never use a little, dainty bomb. what a dumb ass. > >all cities are bad yeah. so do you oppose or support fish farming? on another note altogether, should hunting or fishing ever be called a "sport"? gSs ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:25:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Scotland stuff On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Jason R. Thornton wrote: > > > > And Gaelic? That word slays me every time. > > In Scotland at least, it's pronounced GAH-lick. Which isn't as funny. At the Smithsonian's annual Folklife Festival this year, one of the featured folks was the Scots, and many of the written displays there were trilingual, in English, Gaelic and Scots. Apparently the Scots word for "people" is "fowk." Which is a lot funnier than "folk." The Scotland section also included a whisky-making exhibit. No free samples, but they did let us sniff from what they claimed were whisky-aging barrels that had been in service for over 60 years. And they had deep-fried Mars bars at the food tent, but I went for fish and chips instead. Oh, and there was some music too. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:27:23 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Fred Meyer (was "everything else") Quoting Capuchin : > lacking at any Safeway in town. They don't have the harsh plastic feel > or > lighting that makes Target such a sterile, hateful place to me. I'll have to step in w/Miles and defend Target here too. I suppose if you're averse to red as a design element, that'd be a problem - but I'm curious as to when you formed this judgment of Target. Because over the last five-ten years or so, it's pretty significantly revamped itself both in product selection/quality and design. It *used* to pretty much indistinguishable from K-Mart (I was never sure which one I was in), but now, the two are radically different from one another. And K-Marts, at least around here, are just awful, worse than Wal-Mart in terms of quality of merchandise (although Wal-Mart has them - and just about everybody else - beat in terms of plain Evil Quotient). The Target near us has nearly the variety of merchandise Cap describes Fred Meyer as having. Also: > Entering Phoenix by freeway there's a sign to the effect of: > > Phoenix Next 60 Exits > > That's not a city, that's just a bunch of buildings between freeway > interchanges. I've never been to Phoenix, but I think if I imagine suburban hell rolling on for hours and hours, all taking place inside a blast furnace, I'd be pretty close. > Anyway, I think a city has neighborhoods with identity while towns just > have an identity. So Chicago has Wrigleyville and Lincoln Park and > Wicker > Park and Roscoe Village and whatever that means something and New York > has > neighborhoods in each and every burrough that have well-understood > identities and so on, places that are not made up of distinct > neighborhoods have a difficult time establishing distinct local > cultures. > The best they can get is a regional culture. > > I think it's really helpful to think of places where people live as > collections of neighborhoods and determine what to call the whole thing > based on how many you have and how distinct they are. If you've got > just > one neighborhood, you're a village. If you've got two to fifty or so, > you're a town. If you've got more than that, you're a city. It's not > dependent on population at all. (Though a FUNCTIONING neighborhood is > something else and is very much a function of geography, psychological > and > physical, natural and man-made.) By that definition, Milwaukee's either a large town or a small city: we definitely have a lot (around 50, +/- 10) of very distinct neighborhoods (I'm not counting suburbs, of course - whole 'nother issue). One of them is quite large - we call it "Chicago." (Oops - I thought I wasn't going to respond to Mike Wells' obvious troll for my attention. Damn.) ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: it's not your meat :: --Mr. Toad ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:00:48 -0700 From: "Daniel L. Cotten" Subject: In Memoriam: Buddy Ebsen >on another note altogether, should hunting or fishing ever be called a >"sport"? These days? In these United States? Of course. Check it with Ted Nugent. Early last century you would often have to classify hunting and fishing as survival skills. My grandfather (aged 92, who was born in the woods outside of Brownsboro, Tx) tells me that his father was fond of possum. Now the 'possum is a member of God's clean up crew, so strictly speaking his meat is pretty damned rank. The secret is to trap the animal and feed him decent food for a few months before you serve him for that special Sunday supper. dc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:06:00 -0500 (CDT) From: gshell@metronet.com Subject: Re: Talkin' 'Bout My Degeneration On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Maximilian Lang wrote: > >".... Come on, let's be honest. It's not a death that any > >man should be ashamed of." rd > > > Wow, how did I miss the in bed with a stripper part of the obit? it should have read "he died of a cocaine overdose while in bed with a prostitute, without his boots on" was john married? gSs ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:10:22 -0700 From: "Daniel L. Cotten" Subject: Re: Talkin' 'Bout My Degeneration >was john married? Uhuh. Wot a man. dc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:17:38 -0500 (CDT) From: gshell@metronet.com Subject: Re: Talkin' 'Bout My Degeneration On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Daniel L. Cotten wrote: > >was john married? > > Uhuh. Wot a man. i wonder if roger talks like that when she's around? what a pig. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:20:30 -0500 (CDT) From: tanter@tarleton.edu Subject: Re: more icky childbirth stuff On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 gshell@metronet.com wrote: > on another note altogether, should hunting or fishing ever be called a > "sport>> > No way. How can it be a sport when only one side is doing the participating? There is nothing sporting about hunting--there is no winner. Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:28:50 -0700 From: "Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" Subject: RE: I'm a dumbass Glen who is not a dumb ass wrote: > After re-reading Jason's post, I've come to the following conclusions: > > On Wednesday, July 9, 2003, at 09:40 PM, Glen Uber wrote: > > > I'm thinking that one of the two FM's that I went to was near > > Northgate. One of my girlfriends at the time lived in North Seattle, > > on the border of Lynnewood, and I'm certain it was fairly close to > > her. > > This might have been the Lake City one. Probably was! > > The other was near the DMV near Wallingford, I think. > > This must have been the one in Ballard. No I think this had to have been the one in Greenwood on 85th that I had completely forgotten about, which while 40 blocks due north of Wallingford is near the DMV. When were Apologies to anyone that doesn't care about the precise placement of Fred Meyer's in the Seattle Area :-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:30:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: face the placenta Glen Uber wrote: > jerking off into your girlfriend's hair after a blowjob Didn't someone have a song called "All I want to do is Fuck Your Hair?" I want to say The JudyBats for some reason, though I never liked them so I wonder why i'd know something like that about them.... ===== "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:49:42 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: more icky childbirth stuff At 11:18 AM 7/10/2003 -0500, gshell@metronet.com wrote: >on another note altogether, should hunting or fishing ever be called a >"sport"? Depends on whether or not you're hunting deer or football players... - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:12:04 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: My friends among those West Virginia hills Miles: >>But knowing that Rex likes FLASH LIGHT somehow makes his fondness for >>Ride more explicable to me... Hmmm... cryptic yet probably not a good thing. (nb. I consider Ride a guilty pleasure outside of the first LP and early EP's which I think are really excellent.) I'm maybe a rarity in that I really like Verlaine's songwriting. I'll cop to the unevenness of his solo catalog but I also think it's underrated. I'm maybe slightly less overwhelmed by his solo debut than some fans, but I would put forth Dreamtime as a really great record with less reservation than Flash Light-- it seems less dated despite being older and has a wonderful balance between ferocity and lyricism. Also the first record I ever heard by the guy, before special-ordering Marquee Moon on cassette from Camelot Music in Cumberland Md., but that's neither here nor there. As Eb mentions, "Words from the Front" and "Cover" are the weakest of the bunch (suffering mostly from contemporaneous '80's mannerisms), but with worthwhile moments on each. Please note, though, that the CD version of "Cover" actually sucks, being in the wrong sequence, ommitting one tune and clumsily truncating another-- it's a real botched job and the real record is much better. But sometimes one gets stuck on an artist so badly that even his or her mediocre stuff seems to tower over the best stuff by everyone else, and Verlaine is one of those guys for me. You can guess some of the others (note that a fair amount of people piss on those Wire Mark II records as well). >>While the world is not overflowing with Famous West Virginians, there's a >>bit of disingenuity goin' on here Sorry, I was talking very specifically about my home town. But my state history book *did* actually have pictures of Joyce DeWitt *and* Don Knotts in its "Modern Famous West Virginians" section, so there's always been some stretching going on. >>The 7-11s themselves used to be way more ubiquitous, but they've sold out >>of a lot of markets (including back home in southern WV, Rex) There's still one in Keyser, but some outfit called Sheetz seems to be proliferating wildly along the interstates. There's one of those in town too, and I suspect it may be the death-knell for the 7-11 (which was the first national franchise to take up residence in Keyser since GC Murphy on Main Street, now also RIP). Target kicks ass over both of the 'Marts, and is thankfully more common in So. Cal. than the other. - -Rex, remembering when McDonald's opened in Keyser and how we thought we'd made it on the map at last... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:05:08 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: In Memoriam: Ebby Budsen >>on another note altogether, should hunting or fishing ever be called a >>"sport"? I'm more concerned about whether *hockey* should ever be called a sport. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:08:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: face the placenta On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > Didn't someone have a song called "All I want to do is Fuck > Your Hair?" I want to say The JudyBats for some reason, > though I never liked them so I wonder why i'd know > something like that about them.... It is the Judybats, and it wasn't a very good song (in my opinion). a ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:14:34 -0700 From: "Daniel L. Cotten" Subject: Re: In Memoriam: Ebby Budsen >I'm more concerned about whether *hockey* should ever be called a sport. Definitely not. But it makes a great fertilizer. dc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:34:30 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: PHX (was "Fred Meyer (was "everything else")") on 7/10/03 8:27 AM, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey at jenor@uwm.edu wrote: > I've never been to Phoenix, but I think if I imagine suburban hell rolling > on for hours and hours, all taking place inside a blast furnace, I'd be > pretty close. That's pretty much it. On our recent visit there I found myself blurting out uncontrollably to my parents, "How can you live in this God forsaken place?". One thing my wife noticed as we were rolling back into San Jose with the car windows down, was that you don't *smell* anything in Phoenix. The air is so dry and dusty that it just smells, I don't know, HOT. Sorry, Marc. I don't mean to diss your greater metro, but, well, ok, I guess I do. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:51:51 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Challenging Stage revisited James: >>You could fit Auckland ten times over into L.A. (and good riddance to it). Aw, man, as if we don't have enough problems in L.A. _____ Jeme: >>For a short time in the early eighties most Fred >>Meyers had a video game or two (as did most places in that era). This was >>the worst thing ever. See, my mother was, like, the all-time great Ms. >>Pacman player and her little addiction caused me untold hours of impatient >>waiting and pacing Conversely the Galaga machine beyond the checkstands at Martin's grocery store helped me survive many a shopping trip without going buggy. And I still kick ass at that game. ____ Stewart: >>In Scotland at least, it's pronounced GAH-lick. Which isn't as funny. But a delicious and essential component of Italian cuisine. Holy hell, KCRW's playing "You're Gonna Miss Me"... what's up with that? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:44:02 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: In Memoriam: Paul Kariya on 7/10/03 10:05 AM, Eb at ElBroome@earthlink.net wrote: > > I'm more concerned about whether *hockey* should ever be called a sport. > Now you've done it. Let's see: Guys beating the crap out of each other to propel a frozen rock past another guy at 100mph; taking 30 stitches to the face after being gashed by another player, then getting right back out there to hunt the guy down. Compare that with baseball, where a famous player missed a week's worth of games because he had hemorrhoids. I don't want to get in a big debate here, but you hit me where I live with that one. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:56:59 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: In Memoriam: Paul Kariya > > I'm more concerned about whether *hockey* should ever be called a sport. > >Let's see: Guys beating the crap out of each other to propel a frozen rock Funny...as I started to read this reply, I thought you were *agreeing* with me. ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:15:03 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: In Memoriam: Buddy Ebsen Daniel L. Cotten wrote: > > My grandfather (aged 92, who was born in the > woods outside of Brownsboro, Tx) tells me that > his father was fond of possum. One of my favourite Uncle Dave Macon songs is "Carve That Possum", which has a verse: Possum meat am good to eat, Always fat and good and sweet, Grease potatoes in the pan, Greatest eating in the land. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:15:04 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Byrds covers James: >>best I know that you won't ;) is the wonderful cover of "Here without you" >>by Splitter, off their first CD (my brother-in-law's cousin played guitar >>on it, but I only found that out about a year after I'd already fallen for >>the song). I'm trying to remember what all I used on that Byrds covers compilation (and why I didn't keep a copy)... oh yeah, it was actually a tape; I didn't have a CD burner yet. We had the obvious Robyn covers... Husker Du's immortal "Eight Miles High"... "Here Without You" by Holsapple and Stamey... "Everybody's Been Burned" by Sebadoh... "Rock 'N' Roll Star" by Patti Smith and a live take from REM... Petty's "Feel a Whole Lot Better"... a really odd "Goin' Back" by Eugene Chadbourne (technically a Goffin-King tune, but Chadbourne himself misattributed it)... a substantial dollop of the Byrds tunes from the two Gram Parsons tributes... and good lord, I know there was more than that. I may have included the CD-only bonus tracks from "Time Between". I'm sure everybody'll start shouting out suggestions and I'll realize half of them were already on there. - -Rex, who almost did the same thing with Beatles and Velvets covers until he realized that would be insane. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:12:20 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Robot Rock Critic Go here for a robot rock critic: I ran the script on The Soft Boys and it gave me the following strange yet oddly well-informed result: The same obsessions -- confused women and growing up listening to Rush - -- are here in spades. On its major-label debut, The Soft Boys demonstrates an affinity for understated throb. What a long, strange trip it's been for The Soft Boys. The lyrics are darker and more introspective than on earlier releases. The masters of tuneful funk are back. Some things never change. How many bands have reinvented themselves as successfully as The Soft Boys? The Soft Boys is unsafe at any speed. I'm just kidding, I never actually listened to this album. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:30:03 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: RE: everything else At 05:27 PM 7/9/2003 -0500, Brian Huddell wrote: >Miles: > >> While the world is not overflowing with Famous West >> Virginians, there's a bit of disingenuity goin' on here, and >> the place to find other Famous West Virginians besides me 'n' >> Rex is: > >Brad Dourif! I'm sorta frightened by that one. He's like a more talented version of a creepy guy who went to the same college as me and Melissa, of course back in our home state. This guy (let's call him Smeagol to protect his identity - and so he can't search for his name, read this, then track me down and build a cage with my bones) sorta looked like Crispin Glover in Marty McFly mode, but with even fewer social skills, a deranged sidelong leer, and a slight speech impediment. A friend of ours took History 101 (Western Civ) with him, so we have this story secondhand, but when the professor asked students to bring in things from our current popular culture that the students thought might become "classics," this guy brought in a "Bananawama" cassette. This was funny on many, many levels. "Smeagol" was also the straight man for The Funniest Thing I've Ever Said In Public (at least, based on number and intensity of laughs gotten). He was in a History of Britain class with the friend who told us the first story, me, and Melissa, and he was charged with giving an oral report on Christopher Marlowe. His report was filled with outrage about Marlowe's homosexual behavior and the "pwonogwaphic" nature of his plays. In fact, Smeagol got stuck on the word "pwonogwaphic," and he said it about eight times in a row. I interrupted him and said "But Smeagol, the pornograph hadn't even been invented yet." it's a cruel, cruel stammer, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:28:05 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: RE: Robot Rock Critic > > > I ran the script on The Soft Boys and it gave me the following strange > yet oddly well-informed result: Did you run this one? ;) Michael "your own personal pyramid" Wells =========== Can Of Bees Oh No Buy this LP 1997 1/2 Can Of Bees is not so much of a band, but an exercise in marketing. Does anyone over the age of 15 like this stuff? I liked it better when it was called Pearl Jam's Greatest Hits. Singing about the cage of human existence in the bluesy "Return to My Roots," the singer sounds like he's having about as much fun as a dying hyena. Fans may say otherwise, but the rock-rap "Mr. Awesome" is virtually a rewrite of "Love Games." Even the fist-pumping production by Brian Eno, and a steady supply of teen anthems can't save Oh No, envisioned as a song cycle about the group confronting its demons and riding motorcycles. On the hit-and-miss live bonus track "Your Own Personal Pyramid," Can Of Bees sounds like they're having a great time, unlike the audience. Do these guys really need more money? About the only thing good about this CD is that it is shiny. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:28:21 -0700 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: Beatles' covers (Robyn content 0.17%) Rex.Broome earnestly scribbled: >-Rex, who almost did the same thing with Beatles and Velvets covers until he >realized that would be insane. I used to have a radio show called "The Vinyl Resting Place" on a small AM station in Petaluma, CA. We were on Sunday nights from 10p-1a and my co-host and I played all manner of goofy shit, mainly B-sides, album tracks, imports, etc. So eclectic and diverse were our selections, in fact, that in the 13 months we were on the air, we played only 3 songs more than once: Our theme song, "Teddy Bear's Picnic" by the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band; our closing theme, "25 O'Clock" by the Dukes of Stratosphear; and "3rd World Calling/Solar Flight," an new-agey instrumental by ex-Zappa sideman, Mandre (Andre Lewis), which we played at midnight as we transitioned into the new day. I digress... We once did a show that consisted completely of covers of Beatles' songs. The selections ran the gamut from typical ("Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds" by Elton John) to unusual ("I'm Down" by Adrian Belew) to just plain weird (Mae West doing "Day Tripper" and Bing Crosby doing "Hey Jude"). Anyway, since then, I've thought of putting together a compilation of great Beatles' covers, but have never actually sat down to do it. In addition to the aforementioned Elton John and Adrian Belew tracks, I'd probably have to include Eddie Hazel's "I Want You (She's So Heavy)", Siouxsie & the Banshees' "Dear Prudence," Todd Rundgren's "Strawberry Fields Forever," Stevie Wonder's "We Can Work It Out," Earth Wind & Fire's "Got To Get You Into My Life" and Robyn's "A Day In The Life". What would be on your "Best Beatles' Covers" comp CD? - -- Cheers! - -g- "Soylens Viridis Homines Est" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:39:59 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: everything else At 03:27 PM 7/9/2003 -0700, Eb wrote: >>Miles: >>Eb: Scrolling back through the old list mail, catching up on the >>kidney stone thing. I hate it for you. I've had some understanding >>of the kidney stone experience ever since reading Asimov's >>autobiography when I was a teen, > >Did Asimov have notorious troubles with them? Yeah, he got his first one in the '50s (I think). He said that after the first stone, he never passed a water fountain without drinking. >I really loved that "Scientist Writes a Letter" song on Flash Light, >when it was new. And as I said before, I knew practically nothing >about Television at the time. I had already gotten MARQUEE MOON, ADVENTURE, and THE BLOW-UP in its ROIR cassette incarnation. But my problem with solo Verlaine wasn't that it didn't sound enough like Television, it was that it failed to make much of an impression on me at all. Scanning his discography, few riffs or lyrics spring to mind when I read the titles, and the only lyric I can vaguely recall is the first part of "Without a Word"'s chorus: "So Laura came to the water / without a word [something something]," and see, that might be half misremembered. The reunion Television record is the record I was always hoping the Verlaine solo stuff would be. >Kinda like how I was turned on by >Richard Thompson's Daring Adventures fresh out of the box, before >having any knowledge of his background and Fairport Convention >pedigree. Of course I think DARING ADVENTURES is Thompson's best album instead of one of those "started with this one, thought it was great, but can't believe I thought it was great after hearing earlier albums X, Y, and Z" curios. And my first Thompson was SHOOT OUT THE LIGHTS. :-) later, Miles ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #262 ********************************