From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #258 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, July 9 2003 Volume 12 : Number 258 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: under the city [gshell@metronet.com] Re: myers-briggs [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: under the city ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: myers-briggs [Ken Weingold ] Re: myers-briggs [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: under the city [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: myers-briggs [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: myers-briggs [Ken Weingold ] Re: the Gaelic [Michael R Godwin ] Re: under the city [Michael R Godwin ] Re: myers-briggs ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Well we all need someone we can cream on [Christopher Gross ] A Ph.D. by any other name... [Catherine Simpson ] Multiple emails (was: Re: A Ph.D. by any other name...) [Ken Weingold ] Re: Multiple emails (was: Re: A Ph.D. by any other name...) [Ken Weingold] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 08:01:32 -0500 (CDT) From: gshell@metronet.com Subject: Re: under the city On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 gshell@metronet.com wrote: > > this was scotland, right? new zealand, sorry. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 16:10:07 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: myers-briggs - --On Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2003 8:50 Uhr -0400 Thomas Rodebaugh wrote: > i'm a little late on the draw with this, but i just got my ph.d., Congratulations! So whatcha gonna do now? I'm curious. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn PGP key ID: 0x4D105B45 Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156 50823 Kvln http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 10:10:55 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: under the city gshell wrote: > > this was scotland, right? get tae fuck! I enjoyed my time in small-town Scotland. And no, I haven't got to the "rosy glow" expat stage, whih probably shouldn't happen for another ten years or so. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 10:19:39 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: myers-briggs On Wed, Jul 9, 2003, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > --On Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2003 8:50 Uhr -0400 Thomas Rodebaugh > wrote: > > >i'm a little late on the draw with this, but i just got my ph.d., > > Congratulations! So whatcha gonna do now? I'm curious. Either prefix his name by "Dr. " or suffix it with ", Phd.". What else do you do with it? ;-) - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 16:28:10 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: myers-briggs - --On Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2003 10:19 Uhr -0400 Ken Weingold wrote: >> Congratulations! So whatcha gonna do now? I'm curious. > > Either prefix his name by "Dr. " or suffix it with ", Phd.". What > else do you do with it? ;-) That lets me segue to another question: is there a difference or not? Also, grad students are students who have a bachelor but no master, right? So what do you call students who already have a master and are now going for a Dr.? - -- Sebastian Hagedorn PGP key ID: 0x4D105B45 Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156 50823 Kvln http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:28:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: under the city On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 gshell@metronet.com wrote: > > Entertainment for young teens seemed to revolve largely around street > > racing at 2am on a weekend morning. > > that's probably a direct result of incompetant schooling, brain-dead > parenting and a lack of leadership throughtout the municipality. Items 1 and 3 are far more likely among those who favor the anti-community and self-centeredness too typical of rural and small-town areas. I suppose you're not seeing the irony of wishing for competent schooling and leadership among folks who are, if you're the example, only this far from hiding out in a shack in the middle of nowhere with several shotguns, a couple of dogs, and lots of canned food and water in a bomb shelter. > i find it hard to believe that in a town of 120k you don't have grocery > stores/convenience stores, coffee shops, hair salons and at least a tire > and battery garage, along with aroma therapists and foot massagers. So the problem isn't generic, mega-corporate entities, it's the availability of groceries, coffee, etc.?!? You keep shifting your focus as people argue with you... > it's ok to mow your lawn at 2:00am? that's also hard to believe, but > if you insist. So you think that, if you lived in a city, you'd want to be able to mow your lawn (with anything but a mechanical push mower) at 2am? How are people with such an antisocial attitude expected to pull together to make good education or civic leadership? > and that is what it is all about. but remember, you are easier to > monitor and therefore much easier to control. This from someone who posts regularly to a publicly archived online forum? Inconsistent even in your paranoia, apparently... > why are you still pushing the small town vs. large town. all towns are > essentially the same, some are just more convenient. i would much rather > live in a small town than a large town, but no town is best of all. I suppose because you brought it up in response to someone's comment, claiming that people who didn't like small towns were mindless, tv-addicted drone-victims of mainstream advertising sedation. But I suppose it's reasonable, after starting a discussion, to arbitrarily wonder why *others* are still discussing it. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::No man is an island. ::But if you take a bunch of dead guys and tie 'em together, ::they make a pretty good raft. __Max Cannon__ np: Super Furry Animals _Mwng Bach_ (or whatever that second disc is called - uh-oh, raised The Welsh Spectre...) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:33:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: myers-briggs On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > grad students are students who have a bachelor but no master, right? So > what do you call students who already have a master and are now going for a > Dr.? At least as far as I know, students with masters who are pursuing a doctorate are still grad students. Don't think there's any particular name or title attached - at least none that anyone I know would insist upon. I think "Dr. Thomas Rodebaugh," "Thomas Rodebaugh, Ph.D." and "Dr. Thomas Rodebaugh, Ph.D." are all equivalent. I think the logic of appending "Ph.D." to the "Dr." one is simply to clarify that one isn't a medical doctor, since just plain "Dr." in the U.S. generally refers to physicians. But I'm capable of being wrong (only on this issue though. Otherwise, I'm always correct). Oh - congratulations! Jeff Ceci n'est pas une .sig ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 10:36:45 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: myers-briggs On Wed, Jul 9, 2003, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > That lets me segue to another question: is there a difference or > not? Also, grad students are students who have a bachelor but no > master, right? So what do you call students who already have a > master and are now going for a Dr.? Insane? - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:15:18 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: the Gaelic On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > get tae fuck! I enjoyed my time in small-town Scotland. And no, I > haven't got to the "rosy glow" expat stage, whih probably shouldn't > happen for another ten years or so. While spotting the Flying Scotsman today, I noticed that most of the Pullman cars were named 'Phoenix', 'Audrey' and so on, but the first one was named 'Albannach Sgiathach'. Gaelic, obviously, but what do it mean? Is it a straight translation of 'Flying Scotsman'? And what relation does it have to the character Albanac in 'Moon of Gomrath'? - - Mike Godwin PS What constitutes a 'small town'? I've lived in a city of 90,000 people for years, but I've seen others refer to 120,000 (which is definitely big to me) as small. I would have said 20,000 max. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:21:01 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: under the city Do you ever feel lonely? by Ivor Cutler [Lugubrious, Scottish, with ostinato harmonium] Do you ever feel lonely? Of course you do Then think about Billy He's lonely too Lives in a city Population one. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:32:37 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: myers-briggs Sebastian wrote: > > what do you call students who already have a > master and are now going for a Dr.? your waitperson who will be with you shortly. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 11:38:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Well we all need someone we can cream on On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > Oh - and no one's mentioned the band Come... I read an interview where the band claimed that the name was meant in a sexual sense, but as a verb rather than a noun. Does that still count for purposes of this thread? As far as favorite lyrics go, I just remembered one: Spinal Tap's "Big Bottom," when the singer asks "How can I leave this behind?" Brilliant. - --Chris nbu: as many of my mp3s as possible, before tech support accidentally destroys my hard drive while upgrading me from NT to W2K ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:20:47 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: LA Beer/Lack Thereof Glen: >>That's because there's no good beer in LA. ;) Pasadena has Crown City >>Brewing Yeah, they do. I could more readily be said to live in Pasadena than LA proper-- I'm actually in Highland Park-- so lucky me. But while LA produces little in the way of its own good beer, everybody else's is readily available. It's not so bad. Haven't had any myself for a month or so, as I have this neat two-pronged diet that seems to be working out: eat less food and don't drink beer. White wine's getting old fast, though, but parental responsibilities at least keep me from turning to the hard stuff... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:28:57 -0700 From: Catherine Simpson Subject: A Ph.D. by any other name... Sebastian said: >>At least as far as I know, students with masters who are pursuing a >>doctorate are still grad students. I've always heard students who are pursuing their master's degrees referred to as "grad students", and student pursuing their Ph.D. referred to as "doctoral students". Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 12:35:58 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Multiple emails (was: Re: A Ph.D. by any other name...) Why am I being CCd on these mails when I'm already on the list, so I get two of each? If you don't want to have to change the TO field to the list address for each one and your email software can't function the way you need, making you do group replies every time, obviously you need better email software. Sorry, but it's getting really annoying getting multiple emails. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 18:44:26 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Multiple emails (was: Re: A Ph.D. by any other name...) - --On Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2003 12:35 Uhr -0400 Ken Weingold wrote: > Why am I being CCd on these mails when I'm already on the list, so I > get two of each? If you don't want to have to change the TO field to > the list address for each one and your email software can't function > the way you need, making you do group replies every time, obviously > you need better email software. > > Sorry, but it's getting really annoying getting multiple emails. This is strictly a matter of taste. I know a lot of people who prefer it this way, for various reasons. You can't expect me to keep track of who wants to be cc'ed and who doesn't! I myself mostly use a mail server that does automatic duplicate supression. So if you say we should use "better email software", I could tell you the same thing ... - -- Sebastian Hagedorn PGP key ID: 0x4D105B45 Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156 50823 Kvln http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 09:48:02 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: gnatmaniax: happiness with Joe Pernice So I went to see the Pernice Brothers last night. I really loved their last album, "The World Won't End," particularly "Working Girls" which became my theme song for my shitty job ("Contemplating suicide or a graduate degree," damn, that's so TRUE!). Their current one, which is less lush and more guitar-based, isn't as interesting to me, as I've mentioned before, but it's still awfully good. So Jane the Timeline Chick, her boyfriend, some of her friends, and I gathered at a bar around the corner from the venue, and drank beer till about 10:00, and then went to the show. It was at Lola's Room, which is below the infamous Crystal Ballroom with the bouncy floor. It's a nice small venue with a low stage. The last time I was there, to see the Minders, Shane McGowan was playing upstairs and the ceiling vibrated so much it looked like it was about to cave in. Fortunately there was no-one playing at the Crystal last night. We arrived late enough to miss the opening act, Warren Zanes, whom I know nothing about, and were joined by my feisty Aussie friend Kuta. The Pernice Brothers assembled, sans Bob Pernice (so I guess it was just the Pernice Brother) and Laura Stein, their keyboard player. The new keyboardist was a skinny guy in a red cowboy shirt and shoulder-length curly hair, and the drummer was a lanky, jug-eared guy who is also in another band, the Bigger Lovers, whom Jane the Timeline Chick is familiar with. The spiky-haired, bespectacled Thom Monahan played a beautiful Rickenbacker bass, and the wonderfully-named Peyton Pinkerton played guitar. Joe Pernice himself was wearing an Amoeba Records T-shirt (guess they just came up from San Francisco or LA)  he's a small, muscular guy, quite handsome except for a bad complexion, with slightly receding black hair, glasses and greying stubble. He had a slight New York accent (or maybe Boston  he's from there but lives in Brooklyn), spoke quietly but with authority, and generally gave off the impression that he could seriously kick your ass but wouldn't do it because he's a nice guy. In other words, he's hardly the fey creature that his soft voice might suggest. He played a Tele and a lovely little mahogany Martin. They mostly played a combination of songs from their most recent two albums, with some older songs mixed in here and there  songs from their first album, "Overcome By Happiness" (which I don't own), and a few songs from their alt-country incarnation, the Scud Mountain Boys, which were great  I need to pick up one of their records. One Scud Mountain song was dedicated to Bob Pernice, whose house had burned down (nobody was hurt, fortunately). When they played "Working Girls," I actually got teary-eyed thinking about all my shitty years at shitty office jobs and how it's all going to be over soon. During the wonderfully jangly "She Heightened Everything," I put down my cup of water and my purse, and the girl next to me said, "About time, I wondered when you were going to relax!" And during Jane's favorite, "7:30," a guy coaxed us all up to the front of the stage  we'd been hanging back as audiences always seem to do  and everyone danced. During the song's coda, the band reproduced the amazing Zombies-esque "ba ba ba" bit that's on the record, singing in four-part harmony, and it was really impressive  I'm not sure when I've ever seen four-part harmonies on stage, besides the Olivia Tremor Control. Joe encouraged us to slow-dance during a slow song  Kuta tried to slow-dance with me but I wasn't really into it. :) They played the wonderfully-titled "Grudgefuck" ("It's a little love song," Joe explained) and ended with a Pretenders cover  they were performing with Chrissie Hynde in England, and wanted her to sing it with them - and one more song from the new album  "Weakest Shade of Blue," I think. Every so often, Joe would wipe his face or his glasses on his shirt, showing a bit of belly and the waistband of his underwear, but I couldn't tell if they were boxers or briefs. I tried to wolf-whistle but nothing came out  I think my lipstick impeded the process. I heard someone else whistle, though. When I got up closer to the stage, I tried to keep watching Joe, but it was difficult because I now had a good view of the drummer, who was freakin' hysterical. He was the Kimberley Rew of drumming  not only grimacing and making drummer-faces, but also singing along exaggeratedly with every song even though he didn't have a microphone. He also played with great enthusiasm  I love watching drummers who seem to be having a great time. Jane nabbed setlists for me and her, and I gave a tinfoil Thoth to Joe. He thanked me and stuck it on his acoustic guitar which was still up on stage. After he shmoozed with a few other people, I told him that his music had made my job more bearable over the last few years. He thanked me, shook my hand and asked my name. He's really, really short, and slouched so much that he was almost shorter than me (I'm 5'2"). He seemed like a really nice, gracious sort of guy, soft-spoken and friendly... but still seemed like he could kick someone's ass. While I was buying a T-shirt, the drummer walked by, and it turned out he's about 6'8" tall. I told him how cool it was that he sang along with all the songs, and he said it was how he kept his place in the song. "But you're so into it!" I exclaimed. "Well, Joe's a great lyricist," he said. Indeed. And that's all that happened. n. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 13:03:03 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Multiple emails (was: Re: A Ph.D. by any other name...) On Wed, Jul 9, 2003, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > This is strictly a matter of taste. I know a lot of people who prefer it > this way, for various reasons. You can't expect me to keep track of who > wants to be cc'ed and who doesn't! I myself mostly use a mail server that > does automatic duplicate supression. So if you say we should use "better > email software", I could tell you the same thing ... Well the email client is totally under my control. Same is not necessarily true for the server. And why would people want to be CCd on emails to a list they are subscribed to? - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:09:47 -0500 (CDT) From: gshell@metronet.com Subject: Re: under the city On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 gshell@metronet.com wrote: > > that's probably a direct result of incompetant schooling, brain-dead > > parenting and a lack of leadership throughtout the municipality. > > Items 1 and 3 are far more likely among those who favor the anti-community > and self-centeredness too typical of rural and small-town areas. wow, talk about bigoted, self-centered and idiotic. if the city is where you think you can get away from the anti-community and self-centeredness you associate with rural life then please stay. i can't remember anyone from around here not answering the phone or door when a neighbor was looking for help or just a shoulder to cry on. but i can remember visiting, living or working in the city and starting to think most of the folks there were borg. > I suppose you're not seeing the irony of wishing for competent schooling > and leadership among folks who are, if you're the example, only this far > from hiding out in a shack in the middle of nowhere with several > shotguns, a couple of dogs, and lots of canned food and water in a bomb > shelter. well, when i look at the drop out rates and testing scores from the large diverse public school systems which are nearly all over-crowded and extremely socially fractured along racial and economical lines i wonder what the fuck these people are being fed and who is feeding it to them. also, i have cats, a new freshwater well and no bomb shelter. shotguns are only good for crowd control or close combat. > > i find it hard to believe that in a town of 120k you don't have grocery > > stores/convenience stores, coffee shops, hair salons and at least a tire > > and battery garage, along with aroma therapists and foot massagers. > > So the problem isn't generic, mega-corporate entities, it's the > availability of groceries, coffee, etc.?!? You keep shifting your focus as > people argue with you... it's the lack of effort expected for any return, the growing impatients among drivers and consumers at most every level, as well as the overall lack of courtesy fueled of course solely by the inhabitants of the city itself. > > it's ok to mow your lawn at 2:00am? that's also hard to believe, but > > if you insist. > > So you think that, if you lived in a city, you'd want to be able to mow > your lawn (with anything but a mechanical push mower) at 2am? just another example of what i can do and you can't even though i probably won't. i did work on the garden at about 3am last year, right before i left for canada. > How are people with such an antisocial attitude expected to pull > together to make good education or civic leadership? you are saying that people who live in rural or small town enviroments are antisocial and therefore cannot have good schools or make civil good leaders. bigotry is usually fueled by ignorance, but not always. > > and that is what it is all about. but remember, you are easier to > > monitor and therefore much easier to control. > > This from someone who posts regularly to a publicly archived online forum? > Inconsistent even in your paranoia, apparently... i am not paranoied about being monitored. if i was i wouldn't post. i meant at your home, between there and work, at the supermarket and at the adult novelties store as well as the mosque, the whore house and the coffee shop. because, generally, people with fixed routines and life patterns who pay the same municipality for their water, sewage etc.. are much easier to manage. that of course doesn't include every person who lives in the city but it does include the vast majority. > > why are you still pushing the small town vs. large town. all towns are > > essentially the same, some are just more convenient. i would much rather > > live in a small town than a large town, but no town is best of all. > > I suppose because you brought it up in response to someone's comment, > claiming that people who didn't like small towns were mindless, > tv-addicted drone-victims of mainstream advertising sedation. yeah that's true, but that was not what i said. i first responded to elizabeth's comment that small town living was overrated by essentially replying that was so only for people who can't live far from the modern conveniences. then i asked you a question about a specific person and suggested that daytime tv addiction might be part of the problem. mainstream advertising sedation doesn't come into effect normally until after you become restless and uneasy while waiting in a line for lottery tickets or heat and serve lasagne. > But I suppose it's reasonable, after starting a discussion, to > arbitrarily wonder why *others* are still discussing it. it happens often on this list and should be expected. my point is that my knowledge on cities and overpopulation has convinced me of the advantages of living in the country away from the bureaucrats and local leaders and while an unincorporated area is far nicer than any city limits, a township or village is far better than a medium or large sized city. but for me the idea of moving from a small town to a larger town is essentially blasphemous and that is was all the reply to elizabeth was meant to convey. for me, the idea of moving closer to modern conveniences like grocery stores, hair-salons and dvd rental clubs is anything but convenient and has nothing to do with your innacurate diagnosis of my perceived paranoia or self-centerdness. it has far more to do with my desire for personal independance and to live where and how i choose as well as being unrestricted and not dependant on any of the services that have become irreplaceably integrated parts in the lives of the vast majority of people who live in the city or the suburbs, big town or small. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 10:10:28 -0700 From: "Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" Subject: RE: Multiple emails (was: Re: A Ph.D. by any other name...) > Why am I being CCd on these mails when I'm already on the list, so I > get two of each? If you don't want to have to change the TO field to > the list address for each one and your email software can't function > the way you need, making you do group replies every time, obviously > you need better email software. I asked this list along time ago why there was no reply-to header designating the list, which is all other mailing lists I am on have and I think the fegmaniax digest has as well, and I received a cryptic reply about how this avoids Mudge or some techno jargon like that which made no sense to me. > Sorry, but it's getting really annoying getting multiple emails. While we are all complaining. I must say that the fact that all your posts are flagged as important is rather annoying too. Not that you posts aren't worth reading but I'd rather that outlook beeps at me when something truly serious hits my mail box. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 10:25:18 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Byrds, Byrths etc. James on "Cindy of 1000 Lives": >>a lot of the flying nun bands are heavily >>influenced by 60s US, so a second-hand influence is definitely possible, if >>he can be believed, and there is a slight feel of the likes of "Pink Frost" >>to the texture of the music. I can fully believe that and see the connection... that'll add a new level to the tune next time I hear it. >>Reminds me of a conversation I was having recently on songs about >>wanking. "Pictures of Lily" and "Turning Japanese" were the obvious, but >>I'd forgotten ones like Billy Bragg's "St Swithin's Day". I can't believe I left out "Love Comes in Spurts", either... and on a similar tip, "Orgasm Addict". ______ Nat trots out the science: >>A few years ago I read an article in Newsweek that pointed >>to a possible link between Pitocin use and the spiraling rate of childhood >>autism. Yes, and having a near-autistic nephew and knowing the difficulties of that, we were seriously against the pitocin thing. Nat, you hit a lot of the good points, as I knew you would (and thanks for the spelling assist). I guess the basic point on the use of anesthetics is that, biologically, the woman is kind of supposed to, well, participate in the birth, and the drugs prevent that. And that's not good for the kid, either. I'm not even gonna get into routine episeotomies. My wife was violently opposed to having one and man, I can't understand how any woman wouldn't be. That there is cutting up your *stuff*. ____ Blatzy: >>PS- I didn't eat the placenta... And I didn't want one of those stupid >>ink-blot souveniers of it either. Whoa! The only inkblotty thing they ever gave us was a pair of footprints. The first four months weren's so bad for us. Difficult and trying, yeah, but kind of fun and hilarious, too. The wife and I were talking about that last night... the whole run has been more funny and entertaining than difficult. (And I've met Blatzy's kids and they're not too bad.) ____ Hmmm... I thought Skip Battin died years ago. I think there are now more dead Byrds than living ones, and shockingly Crosby's one of the ones who's still kickin'. Alive: McGuinn, Crosby Hillman, Gene Parsons Dead: Clark, Clarke, Gram Parsons, White, Battin, and I think York... ____ gSs: >>the herd mentality helps soothe the waiting period along with simple >>repetative jingles, advertising panaoramas and pretty girls. Now, come on. Stating your opinion is one thing, but that's just condescension, and I think totally undeserved on the basis of what James was saying. - -Rex nt. antibiotics that make you jumpy and steroids that make you hungry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 13:22:04 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Multiple emails (was: Re: A Ph.D. by any other name...) On Wed, Jul 9, 2003, Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc) wrote: > I asked this list along time ago why there was no reply-to header > designating the list, which is all other mailing lists I am on have and > I think the fegmaniax digest has as well, and I received a cryptic reply > about how this avoids Mudge or some techno jargon like that which made > no sense to me. It really is generally considered a very bad idea. One big reason in more plain terms is that for important reasons some people set Reply-To headers for their own email. When a list has it set for itself, then I believe it kills the users' own Reply-To's. > While we are all complaining. I must say that the fact that all your > posts are flagged as important is rather annoying too. Not that you > posts aren't worth reading but I'd rather that outlook beeps at me when > something truly serious hits my mail box. Oh, sorry about that. I'll kill that. It's something I put in a long time ago that fucks with Outlook. I can totally see that being irritating. There was a good one to mess with WebTV by setting the background and foreground colors both to black. - -Ken ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #258 ********************************