From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #248 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, July 1 2003 Volume 12 : Number 248 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: bad accent [Eb ] Re: bad accent [Glen Uber ] reap [Eb ] Re: Amusing list [Carrie Galbraith ] RE: Amusing list [Michael R Godwin ] Re: (some power-pop/70s content) [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Chris Langham (well, actually George Orwell) [Christopher Gross ] Wait, who are you people? ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: Wait, who are you people? [Michael R Godwin ] Give it to the Streaming Boys [bayard ] Someone please extract me from this lame-o screenplay ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: winner, best photo of a nit: [Ken Weingold ] Re: Someone please extract me from this lame-o screenplay [Tom Clark Subject: Re: bad accent >Rob Morrow in Quiz Show. Oh yeah...that's a great example. His accent was awful in that! > No one can do a >Boston accent if he/she is not native. No one. A big "Cliffy" fan, are you? ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:36:26 -0700 From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: bad accent On Monday, June 30, 2003, at 08:33 PM, Eb wrote: > A big "Cliffy" fan, are you? ;) I never bought for a second that Charles Emerson Winchester III was from Boston. He always sounded like a cross between John Houseman and David Frost to my pre-teen ears. Cheers! - -g- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 22:37:09 -0700 From: Eb Subject: reap Buddy Hackett, 79. Did you know he was once invited to join the Three Stooges? Huh. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 09:37:17 +0200 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: Amusing list On Lunedl, giu 30, 2003, at 22:44 Europe/Rome, Bachman, Michael wrote: > Another thing that was missed in Braveheart, the bridge durring > the battle of Sterling Bridge! Mel was also too short for the > role, as Wallace was a very tall man according to all reports. > Liam Neeson would have made a better Wallace, although he was > probably making Rob Roy at the time. Saw Rob Roy and Braveheart on a double bill labeled "Kiltspotting" at the local rep house several years back. Rob Roy was by far the better film. Bad Irish accent: Julia Roberts in Michael Collins Bad accents in general: Keanu Reeves in Bram Stoker's Dracula Gary Oldman's southern drawl in the 5th Element And what was that accent from Russell Crowe in Gladiator? Somewhere vaguely european or american english-like. Robert DeNiro in Heat when he said "I'm from the Bay Area" with the most incredible NY or Brooklyn accent. (Sorry, I know they are different but my ear is not that refined). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 11:05:13 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: RE: Amusing list On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Jean Reno would have been better yet. Wallace probably spoke better > French than English, if you can call what was spoken back then either of > those languages. Bit of a risk of the Wallace landing up in the middle of present day France amongst a gang of upper middle class poseurs, I would have thought. - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 11:57:29 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: (some power-pop/70s content) On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Eb wrote: > An album full of great singles is still a great album. Not necessarily. Although I saw several votes for Ramones albums, I find it wearying listening to song after song of 1-2-3-4! bashes, no matter how good each is individually. But I can quite cheerfully play 'Sheena is a punk rocker' or 'You don't come close' in isolation, because when it ends I can put on a record by Visage or le Hot Club or the Hollywood Argyles. To a lesser extent I'd say the same about the Undertones singles. OTOH the Hendrix Smash Hits are much more varied. But they're still not a suite of tunes deliberately sequenced by the artistes for cumulative impact. Just realised I'm making a case for "Sgt Pepper"! - - MRG n.p. Son House and Al Wilson 'Empire State Express' ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 23:00:27 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Accents, as Usual Anyone who han't seen The Usual Suspects and who still wants to (anyone?) may not want to read the following: >James Dignan wrote: >> >9. Pete Postlethwaite in The Usual Suspects (1995). > >> I think Postlethwaite's problem was he thought he was >> playing a Pakistani with a Japanese name. > >Do we even know what ethnicity Postlethwaite was supposed >to be playing? After all, as Chaz Palminteri figures >everything out at the end, we see that Kobayashi is the mug >manufacturer (right? or was it something else), not the >character's actual name. one of the more obvious of the thousand and one plot holes. How did the name get onto the police report sheet a few scenes earlier if it was being made up on the spur of the moment? Postlethwaite's like Connery in a way. Good when doing his (presumably) native east-end London, but the accents are a little dodgy elsewhere (He was excellent in the recent TV mini-series "The Sins", for instance). James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 12:56:26 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Chris Langham I just watched the recent BBC Orwell dramatised documentary and was very surprised to see Chris Langham (aged, as we know, 60) playing Eric, who died at 46 IIRC. Apparently there is no known movie footage of the old pessimist, so they gave it the full Zelig treatment, with Chris Langham turning up alongside Churchill, meeting the King and Queen in the East End, arresting the locals in Burma, celebrating the workers' republic in Barcelona and so forth. It almost worked, but I lost faith when they included scenes of Langham haranguing a village hall audience. Although they were careful only to give Langham words written by Blair, I can't imagine a loner like him ever going in for rabble rousing. They also made a significant cut in one quote, where he says "every line that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism." They cut "and for democratic socialism" - I wonder if the other Blair had anything to do with that! The BBC also showed the excellent 1954 version of 1984, with Peter Cushing as Winston Smith and Andre Morell as O'Brien. Unfortunately it was on digital and the reception fell apart while I was watching it. But what I saw had considerably more impact than the dull Richard Burton / John Hurt plod through the chapters. - - Mike Godwin n.p. Two minutes hate ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 10:38:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Chris Langham (well, actually George Orwell) On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Michael R Godwin wrote: > They also made a significant cut in one quote, where he says "every line > that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, > against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism." They cut "and for > democratic socialism" - I wonder if the other Blair had anything to do > with that! I read an Orwell appreciation recently (NYRB I think?) that mentioned that same quote. Apparently in the Cold War era the socialism bit was *always* cut out, at least in America. I wonder if that was because American conservatives quoting Orwell didn't want their audience reminded that not all socialists were Communists, or because they didn't want to remind *themselves* that they were quoting on of those icky socialists? > The BBC also showed the excellent 1954 version of 1984, with Peter Cushing > as Winston Smith and Andre Morell as O'Brien. Unfortunately it was on > digital and the reception fell apart while I was watching it. Haven't seen that version. It's not the one where Winston and Julia go before a firing squad unbroken and defiant to the end, is it? I've heard that one 50s adaptation ends that way, entirely missing one of the biggest themes of Orwell's novel. (Of course, even that version of 1984 couldn't be as untrue to its source as Braveheart was....) - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 11:31:44 -0400 From: Johnathan Vail Subject: Orange Cones (0% RH, 20% RH related content) More than you wanted to see, I am sure: http://www.kibo.com/photos/ jv ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 16:40:44 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: (well, actually George Orwell) On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Christopher Gross wrote: > I read an Orwell appreciation recently (NYRB I think?) that mentioned that > same quote. Apparently in the Cold War era the socialism bit was *always* > cut out, at least in America. I wonder if that was because American > conservatives quoting Orwell didn't want their audience reminded that not > all socialists were Communists, or because they didn't want to remind > *themselves* that they were quoting on of those icky socialists? A lot of people have found Orwell's anti-Communist socialism hard to handle. Over here he has been getting plenty of flak because he provided a list of possible / probable communist sympathisers to a Foreign Office contact who was recruiting propagandists: I think some readers have persuaded themselves that as he became more anti-communist he must automatically have become more pro-capitalist. > > The BBC also showed the excellent 1954 version of 1984, with Peter Cushing > > as Winston Smith and Andre Morell as O'Brien. Unfortunately it was on > > digital and the reception fell apart while I was watching it. > > Haven't seen that version. It's not the one where Winston and Julia go > before a firing squad unbroken and defiant to the end, is it? I've heard > that one 50s adaptation ends that way, entirely missing one of the biggest > themes of Orwell's novel. I think that might be the 1956 film featuring Edmond ("One rock, two rocks") O'Brien. Strange piece of casting, but I haven't seen it. The Peter Cushing version stuck to the original unpleasant ending where he betrays Julia when threatened by the rats and learns to love BB. - - Mike Godwin PS The BBC have been claiming recently that the original Room 101 was in Portland Place, but I was under the impression that it was Room 101 in Senate House, which is surely the inspiration for Minitrue. Can anyone confirm or deny? n.p. Syd Barrett "Rats" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 09:02:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Groove Puppy Subject: Re: Amusing list Eb wrote: >> Any other nominees? Stu replied: > man, I can't believe this missed Mel Gibson in > Braveheart. That was the most shite Scottish accent > ever. Sorry to let the side down and all, but I thought his accent was pretty good. Didn't sound like any particular regions accent but sounded generically Scotch I thought, and I don't think it slipped. Now as to his Irish father and all the other Irishmen in the village, and those Uilleann pipes at the funeral.... btw, nice to see the use of the word "shite" being preserved. > Any screen-Scottish accent -- except for Mike Myers > in "So I Married An Axe-Murderer" -- will be > terrible. "Look at the size o' that boy's heid." (H) np The Appleseed Cast "Mare Vitalis" ===== CHUCKHOLE All that great punk rock taste with only half the calories. http://clix.to/chuckhole http://www.mp3.com/chuckhole __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 10:28:04 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Wait, who are you people? Jeff D: >>Actually, that was me -- first FF, now James. I'm beginning >>to think this is personal. Dude, sorry. I had a really shitty day yesterday. Details maybe to follow. _________ Eb: >>How many George Harrison albums do you consider "essential"? All >>Things Must Pass is still the most recent GH album I own (!) Just that one, but he had good singles, or at least ones that I remember fondly. Harrison's maybe the only instance of "what I actually listened to in the '70's" influencing me, since I loved "Crackerbox Palace", but my actual '70's listening was, if anything, more abysmal and embarassing than yours. Basically "The Story of Star Wars" on 8 track. Country and folk were background music and at the time more or less part of dad's "job", not something I ever put on the turntable myself. >>Huh...I don't think I've even heard anything by the Choir, though I'm >>familiar with the geneology. You probably have an anthology with "It's Cold Outside" on it. The compilation Choir Practice has that and a few other brilliant singles/b-sides in the same vein, and then peters out into rehearsal and live tapes of later versions without any of the original member as per any compilation of bands collected on Nuggets/Pebbles etc. I have many such records. They're generally vexing because they have at least *one* other great song and lots o' crap. Maybe the weirdest one is the Lemon Drops comp which actually features an entirely different version of the awesome "I Live In the Springtime" than the one that's on all the anthologies, which isn't on the compilation, and no explanation is offered. ________________ On the accent front, and talking of ones taken personally, it must've been a whole week or so since Miles and I complained about Jodie Foster's "West Virginia" accent in Silence of the Lambs, so it's surely time to mention that again. But by my own admission I can't imitate my own putative accent very well anymore. My accent is "naturalized Californian" and has been for years, and when I try to do W. Va. it sounds like a godawful sub-Beverly Hillbillies drawl. I blame Hollywood and its evil Southern racist state troopers. - -Rex, hoping he didn't mistake anybody for anybody else, for once... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 18:26:52 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Wait, who are you people? > Eb: > >>How many George Harrison albums do you consider "essential"? All > >>Things Must Pass is still the most recent GH album I own (!) > On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Rex.Broome wrote: > Just that one, but he had good singles, or at least ones that I remember > fondly. The Concert for Bangladesh features excellent live versions of many of the best ATMP songs, and includes Badfinger on acoustic guitars! - - Mike Godwin n.humming Ding Dong Ding Dong ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 10:28:04 -0700 (PDT) From: bayard Subject: Give it to the Streaming Boys - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Bayard - When The Soft Boys visited KCRW in 2002, they were filmed. This is a direct link to that footage - rtsp://rx-lvl3-ny23.rbn.com/realkcrw/kcrwfm/g2demand/mb021104The_Soft_Boys.rm The picture quality isn't great - but it's better than nothing. The audio quality is also rather lacking, naturally, but the good news is that the audio portion is available separately in much better quality .... This is the direct link to the AUDIO-ONLY - rtsp://rxns-rbn-sea19.rbn.com:554/livecon/kcrw/g2demand//mb/mb021104The_Soft_B oys.rm As with Robyn's solo appearances, mentioned in my previous email, KCRW's web site doesn't seem entirely happy to link you to it's own contents. The link for the video works great. But, the link for the audio doesn't work for me at all. I am providing the correct direct links to you ... to save you (and possibly others) the hassle of groping around in the dark looking for the things.... Also check out these Robyn links: rtsp://rxns-rbn-sea19.rbn.com:554/livecon/kcrw/g2demand//mb/mb020426Robyn_Hitchcock.rm pnm://rxns-rbn-sea04.rbn.com/livecon/kcrw-cp/demand/mb/mb991122Robyn_Hitchcock.ra ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 11:22:23 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Someone please extract me from this lame-o screenplay So okay, see if any of you can make any karmic (or other) sense of any of this. So my good friend's mom lives in DC. Few weeks ago she got hit by a car on the street outside her house. She's okay, still in the hospital and kind of whacked out on painkillers, and my friend's been following her progress from out here in LA. Now, he and his wife are going out of town, so I'm gonna feed their cat. And then I'm going out of town, and my other friend is gonna feed *my* cat. Now, right before friend #1 leaves town he tells me he's just found out that the car that hit his mom was driven by none other than a certain DC resident famous for being reelected as mayor after being busted for smokin' crack. There's some funny business going on with the police report and it sounds like a total mess. Anyway, he leaves town. So I'm at work yesterday and this co-worker, who I know doesn't especially like me for whatever reason, totally unloads on me and calls me just a bad, bad person, and it's horrible, a nasty scene. My family being out of town already, I sulk home (can you drive sulkily? I sure tried) to my empty house, stopping off to feed friend #1's cat on the way. Get home and call up friend #2 to give him the lowdown on how to feed *my* cat. We're talking about friend #1's mum and friend #2 knows about the accident but hadn't heard the driver's identity and of course he finds that pretty bizarre, and we think it'll be of interest to his wife (who lived in DC during the guy's second stint as mayor). As we're talking there's a knock on the door at his house, and we're thinking it's someone other than his wife who would obviously have keys, but then she opens the door and it is her and we're all ready to tell her about the accident, and I hear her say, "Hey, come down to the street and help me right away, I think I just hit someone and we have to take him to the hospital." Friend #2 understandably hangs up forthwith and I pretty much have come to the end of my ability to process new events. Oh yeah, and it turns out through nobody's fault that nobody's gonna be able to pick me up at the airport tonight so I have to rent a car and get myself from Oakland to Vallejo (which wouldn't be such a big deal but for the fact that I have a horrible sense of direction and have never once managed this particular drive without becoming horribly lost to the tune of two or three extra hours being tacked onto the trip). Which just adds to my dread of dealing with Ms. Angry at work all day before getting on the plane. The soundtrack to all of this being the discs of Glass Flesh 1&2 which were waiting in my mailbox when I got home. (Ultimately I hear back from friend #2 and the thing with his wife was not nearly as bad as it had sounded- she had been getting out of her parked car when a cyclist, swerving to avoid a moving car in the road, had run into her car door and broken his finger. They drove him to the hospital and everything seems cool. And here I sit unmolested at work, my supervisor having read the riot act to Ms. Angry about what you can and can't say to your coworkers. So it could be worse. Could be better if I'd gotten any sleep last night and thus felt at all equipped for five days with the in-laws and their kids, too. But it could be worse. At least I get to see my wife.) But I think I really want to move somewhere else now. Where's good for, like, kids and semi-artsy adults like me and wifey? Thanks for your time. Rex "and I sure hope my ear is uninfected enough to not rupture on the plane" Broome ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 14:19:47 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Someone please extract me from this lame-o screenplay On Tue, Jul 1, 2003, Rex.Broome wrote: > Oh yeah, and it turns out through nobody's fault that nobody's gonna be able > to pick me up at the airport tonight so I have to rent a car and get myself > from Oakland to Vallejo (which wouldn't be such a big deal but for the fact > that I have a horrible sense of direction and have never once managed this > particular drive without becoming horribly lost to the tune of two or three > extra hours being tacked onto the trip). Which just adds to my dread of > dealing with Ms. Angry at work all day before getting on the plane. Just make sure you don't hit anyone. ;-) - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 13:22:38 -0500 From: "Iosso, Ken" Subject: RE: Someone please extract me from this lame-o screenplay - THE O FFICE Clearly, the Twin Cities first of all. It's very easy to find your way to the airport from almost any direction. Sorry about all your grief. The office scene reminds me of the British series THE OFFICE which is truly brilliant and sick. The boss/bad guy is the most hateful antagonist in popular culture mixing incompetence, megalomania, and casual malevolence in a compound so hateful that you spend all show nervously laughing and cringing in horror. We don't make shows like that here. Ken Iosso -----Original Message----- From: Rex.Broome [mailto:Rex.Broome@preferredmedia.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 1:22 PM To: 'fegmaniax@smoe.org' Subject: Someone please extract me from this lame-o screenplay So okay, see if any of you can make any karmic (or other) sense of any of this. So my good friend's mom lives in DC. Few weeks ago she got hit by a car on the street outside her house. She's okay, still in the hospital and kind of whacked out on painkillers, and my friend's been following her progress from out here in LA. Now, he and his wife are going out of town, so I'm gonna feed their cat. And then I'm going out of town, and my other friend is gonna feed *my* cat. Now, right before friend #1 leaves town he tells me he's just found out that the car that hit his mom was driven by none other than a certain DC resident famous for being reelected as mayor after being busted for smokin' crack. There's some funny business going on with the police report and it sounds like a total mess. Anyway, he leaves town. So I'm at work yesterday and this co-worker, who I know doesn't especially like me for whatever reason, totally unloads on me and calls me just a bad, bad person, and it's horrible, a nasty scene. My family being out of town already, I sulk home (can you drive sulkily? I sure tried) to my empty house, stopping off to feed friend #1's cat on the way. Get home and call up friend #2 to give him the lowdown on how to feed *my* cat. We're talking about friend #1's mum and friend #2 knows about the accident but hadn't heard the driver's identity and of course he finds that pretty bizarre, and we think it'll be of interest to his wife (who lived in DC during the guy's second stint as mayor). As we're talking there's a knock on the door at his house, and we're thinking it's someone other than his wife who would obviously have keys, but then she opens the door and it is her and we're all ready to tell her about the accident, and I hear her say, "Hey, come down to the street and help me right away, I think I just hit someone and we have to take him to the hospital." Friend #2 understandably hangs up forthwith and I pretty much have come to the end of my ability to process new events. Oh yeah, and it turns out through nobody's fault that nobody's gonna be able to pick me up at the airport tonight so I have to rent a car and get myself from Oakland to Vallejo (which wouldn't be such a big deal but for the fact that I have a horrible sense of direction and have never once managed this particular drive without becoming horribly lost to the tune of two or three extra hours being tacked onto the trip). Which just adds to my dread of dealing with Ms. Angry at work all day before getting on the plane. The soundtrack to all of this being the discs of Glass Flesh 1&2 which were waiting in my mailbox when I got home. (Ultimately I hear back from friend #2 and the thing with his wife was not nearly as bad as it had sounded- she had been getting out of her parked car when a cyclist, swerving to avoid a moving car in the road, had run into her car door and broken his finger. They drove him to the hospital and everything seems cool. And here I sit unmolested at work, my supervisor having read the riot act to Ms. Angry about what you can and can't say to your coworkers. So it could be worse. Could be better if I'd gotten any sleep last night and thus felt at all equipped for five days with the in-laws and their kids, too. But it could be worse. At least I get to see my wife.) But I think I really want to move somewhere else now. Where's good for, like, kids and semi-artsy adults like me and wifey? Thanks for your time. Rex "and I sure hope my ear is uninfected enough to not rupture on the plane" Broome ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 11:38:39 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Someone please extract me from this lame-o screenplay >[George Harrison had] Just that one [good album], but he had good >singles, or at least ones that I remember fondly. Doesn't sound too "essential" to me, even by your own standards. ;) >But I think I really want to move somewhere else now. Where's good for, >like, kids and semi-artsy adults like me and wifey? James Dignan's basement? Eb Pitiful-Wannabe Showcase: http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/lcsboots/ http://www.hotrodlive.com/George%20Orr.htm Dylan meets Apple again: http://www.apple.com/macosx/panther/exposetheater.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 13:42:06 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: winner, best photo of a nit: http://www.mccullagh.org/image/d30-25/cary-sherman-riaa.html Michael "those lips were built for...suing" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 14:44:30 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: winner, best photo of a nit: On Tue, Jul 1, 2003, Michael Wells wrote: > http://www.mccullagh.org/image/d30-25/cary-sherman-riaa.html > > Michael "those lips were built for...suing" Wells You can buy the pic. For what, making a target out of? - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 12:33:12 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Someone please extract me from this lame-o screenplay on 7/1/03 11:22 AM, Rex.Broome at Rex.Broome@preferredmedia.com wrote: > But I think I really want to move somewhere else now. Where's good for, > like, kids and semi-artsy adults like me and wifey? Speaking currently as a NoCal'er, try Santa Cruz/Aptos. Or go north of SF to Mill Valley or Stinson Beach. I've been having the same feelings lately. Maybe we should should just buy a big piece of land in Santa Barbara or Ojai and start the Feg commune we've always dreamed about. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 22:01:44 +0200 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: Someone please extract me from this lame-o screenplay On Martedl, lug 1, 2003, at 21:33 Europe/Rome, Tom Clark wrote: > on 7/1/03 11:22 AM, Rex.Broome at Rex.Broome@preferredmedia.com wrote: > >> But I think I really want to move somewhere else now. Where's good >> for, >> like, kids and semi-artsy adults like me and wifey? > > Speaking currently as a NoCal'er, try Santa Cruz/Aptos. Or go north > of SF > to Mill Valley or Stinson Beach. > I've been having the same feelings lately. Maybe we should should > just buy > a big piece of land in Santa Barbara or Ojai and start the Feg commune > we've > always dreamed about. Sorry for your truly shitty day Rex. I've had a couple of those myself this week, not quite that scale but close - like being robbed of wallet including passport and permit to reside in the country, which happened to be on me because I needed to renew them... Speaking as a former No Cal gal and a many generation native to the Golden State, I vote for the feg comune in Ojai, Santa Paula or out behind Solvang. Maybe Hollister Ranch or north of Moro Bay. Nice and secluded and great surf. I got a few bucks to chip in... Be Seeing You, - - c ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 13:30:39 -0700 From: Elizabeth Brion Subject: Re: Someone please extract me from this lame-o screenplay On Tuesday, July 1, 2003, at 01:01 PM, Carrie Galbraith wrote: > > Speaking as a former No Cal gal and a many generation native to the > Golden State, I vote for the feg comune in Ojai, Santa Paula or out > behind Solvang. Maybe Hollister Ranch or north of Moro Bay. Nice and > secluded and great surf. I got a few bucks to chip in... Oh man, not north of Morro Bay. We just spent the worst year-and-a-half of our lives living there. Definitely NOT a good place for semi-artsy adults, or adults of any sort who enjoy going outside, ever, without being blown over by gale-force winds. In that whole time, there were exactly six days when we could even prop open our balcony door without whatever furniture we were using being blown across the room. We've moved to San Luis Obispo since, which is a small improvement, but I would strongly advise anyone against this whole county. The cost of living has spiraled out of control, and the wages have not increased to match it. And I don't know, maybe it's just me, but the whole being-surrounded-by-nothing-but-white-people thing is creepy. At this point, we'd do just about anything to be able to move back to Los Angeles. Or any city big enough to have a major airport, really. Small-town living is wildly overrated. My sympathies for your bad-screenplay life, Rex; I had a whole year like that once. Elizabeth ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #248 ********************************