From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #237 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, June 26 2003 Volume 12 : Number 237 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: prescripton fun and games [Barbara Soutar ] Re: Kravitz is Krap [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] New Camper Dates [Tom Clark ] Risking the Wrath of Eb (tm) [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: 40 from the 70s [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] RE: Kravitz is Krap [crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com] RE: Kravitz is Krap [Eb ] Stop drinking and go to bed, Joe [crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com] RE: Kravitz is Krap [mary ] I said, stop drinking, Joe and go to bed... [crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com] Attractives oppose ["Rex.Broome" ] For a refreshing change of pace... [Eb ] RE: Kravitz is Krap [Christopher Gross ] Re: Attractives oppose [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: Opposites Attract [Ethyl Ketone ] Re: New Zealand Legalizes Brothels [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] New Zealand Legalizes Brothels ["Marc Holden" ] RE: another list ["Iosso, Ken" ] RE: Kravitz is Krap ["Iosso, Ken" ] RE: another list [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:21:49 -0700 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: Re: prescripton fun and games gshell exclaimed: "damn, i need a new doctor. so this means he can walk around with a stick in his mouth and the cops won't arrest or ticket him? or does the law say intake has to be done in private? wow, you could cop a semi-legitimate contact buzz plea. do you guys have legal or protected pot growing and purchasing institutions to help protect the prescription holders?" Not sure about the public part - I wouldn't recommend taunting the police on this one. I think private ingestion of marijuana would be in good taste and avoid problems but who knows what my flamboyant husband will get up to? There are protected growers to buy from. You have to apply to become one of these growers. Forms are being filled out as we speak, and an identifying photo must be taken. All of a sudden, a room in our basement is going to become a legitimate grow-op. Barbara Soutar Victoria, British Columbia ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 19:24:42 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Kravitz is Krap Quoting crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com: > Dylan, I think is over-rated; and, being a harmonica player, I can't > listen to any track on which he 'plays' the instrument. So you're trying to claim the harmonica is a musical instrument that one can play in a musical fashion? ..Jeff, ducking quickly and making an end run to the fridge for a beer J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: This album is dedicated to anyone who started out as an animal and :: winds up as a processing unit. :: --Soft Boys, note, _Can of Bees_ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:25:22 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: New Camper Dates Dunno how long these have been public, but I just got the email. I'm planning on hitting the SF show. - -tc Camper Van Beethoven Jul 12 (Sat) Chicago, IL Chicago Folk & Roots Festival Jul 19 (Sat) Denver, CO LoDo Music Festival Jul 25 (Fri) Ventura, CA Ventura Theatre Jul 26 (Sat) San Juan Capistrano, CA Coach House Aug 01 (Fri) San Francisco, CA Slim's Aug 30 (Sat) Virginia Beach, VA American Music Festival ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 19:30:08 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Risking the Wrath of Eb (tm) Quoting Jim Davies : > Exactly one of these titles could be down to Scott Miller: If you're saying only one of these titles sounds like it coulda been a Scott Miller title, I'd say that > The Many Adventures of Jane the Timeline Chick and the Tinfoil Thoths is plausible, > Will You Shut Up About West Virginia? is likelier. Oh: is anyone compiling the list's 40 from the '70s lists? I'd be curious to see if there's any consensus, or at least how things rank. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb :: --Batman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 19:32:53 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: 40 from the 70s Quoting Aaron Mandel : > But then, much as I may shoot my mouth off about some things, I've never > claimed to know about music from before the punk era. It's a little > depressing. If you take two records I've never heard that are equally > well-loved by people who I know and share taste with, except that one's > from 1972 and one's from 1982, it seems like there's a good chance I > just won't 'get' the earlier one. I think you've mentioned that before...any ideas why that is? Have you tried working backwards, from stuff you like, through acknowledged (and un-) influences, etc.? Perhaps it also depends on what non-rock musics you like as well... Not that you must justify your tastes...but at least for me, it's interesting to try to understand the reasons I don't like something, even if doing so gets me no closer to enjoying it (should I be so inclined). ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: sex, drugs, revolt, Eskimos, atheism ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 01:34:36 +0100 (BST) From: crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com Subject: RE: Kravitz is Krap Yup, Kravitz is 'palatable', I suppose. But, isn't palatable the sort of adjective one applies to James soddin' Last?!...Never mind that Hendrix changed the face of culture, music - you fuckin' name it. Sorry if a sonic revolution sounds a bit 'grating' ( I've had even more drinks now, forgive me!). I think we're both outsiders here, Catherine. I'm a massive blues and '50s rock 'n' roll fan who clicks with Robyn/Soft Boys' obvious admiration for that sort of music/influence. And I think Robyn does LOVE those idioms. It's not just an 'ironic' reaction. It's genuine love. To be quite frank, in answer to the person here who labelled the blues a bit monotonous, I find a lot of the kind of indie/singer-songwriter gear generally admired here samey, twee, dull and horribly self-regarding. That's not to say that I don't like a fair deal of it; but, for me, the blues is as varied and rewarding a genre as indie/alt, and mostly doesn't make such a palaver about its own nature. Crowbar Joe > (After "...a few drinks") Crowbar Joe said: > > >>Is there anyone else out there who think Lenny (Kravitz)has done more than > three, OK, TWO, all righty, my >>last offer is ONE good track? > > I would like to go on record as saying that although I *did* say "I've been > told that it's insane that I like ... Lenny Kravitz even though I can't > stand Hendrix", I would not classify myself as an actual Lenny Kravitz > "fan". My preference is to not listen to either Kravitz OR Hendrix, but that > if I were in a situation where I had to listen to one or the other, I would > choose Kravitz. I find Hendrix grating, and Kravitz more palatable. For that > matter, I have no great love for the vast majority of music from the 1960's. > Oh, don't get me wrong - the Beatles did some cool stuff, Bowie was always > great, old Stones beats the crap out of anything they've done in the last 20 > years... but, for the most part, I hold very little nostalgia for the music > of my very-early childhood (born in '64). > > Which brings a question to mind... It seems that most of the > other-than-Robyn music that I see discussed on this list runs toward Indie > artists and bands in the REM vein. Other than Robyn, whose music I have > deemed damned-near necessary for the continuation of life as I know it, I > listen to primarily Goth/Industrial/Ethereal bands (or at least > *used-to-be-more-Goth* bands like the Cure). At all the Robyn shows I've > been to, I've only met one other Goth-ish person, so I'm guessing that Robyn > and music-to-slit-your-wrists-by don't exactly go hand in hand for most > folks. Fair assessment? Or are there others like me lurking out there that I > don't know about? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:35:02 -0700 From: Eb Subject: RE: Kravitz is Krap >Catherine: >At all the Robyn shows I've >been to, I've only met one other Goth-ish person, so I'm guessing that Robyn >and music-to-slit-your-wrists-by don't exactly go hand in hand for most >folks. Fair assessment? Yes. >Or are there others like me lurking out there that I >don't know about? Drew left, so you're outta luck now. ;) - ------- James: > Abba, the Album Another brave choice. Heh. Doesn't even seem like this is one of the top ABBA albums, is it? Two hits, but.... >Right First Time - Th'Dudes Dunno nothing 'bout this 'un. >52nd Street - Billy Joel Why, you old softie, you. >1) I wasn't sure exactly how to deal with this >'different artists" tag, so was conservative. I wouldn't have cared about albums having common performers, as long as the overall moniker is different. I myself voted for Eno/801/Roxy Music and Robert Fripp/King Crimson, you might have noticed. >2) I didn't include compilation albums. Yeah, I'd like to discourage those, particularly if they're various-artists or if they encompass pre-70s material. >Jeffrey risked my wrath: >Oh: is anyone compiling the list's 40 from the '70s lists? I'd be curious to >see if there's any consensus, or at least how things rank. I don't know if I have the patience, but the results would be interesting. Even if the results were only based on artists named, rather than the specific albums chosen. Eb, posting way too much ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 01:52:24 +0100 (BST) From: crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com Subject: Stop drinking and go to bed, Joe >Enthusiastically carapaced... she was armored? Or is that a >"pissed"-related word for "drunk" with which I'm not familiar? I >like it >either way. As well as the phrase "clearly the butcher's >squeeze". 'Fit as a butcher's dog' is one of my favourite phrases. As is - 'Sweating like Gary Glitter's lawyer...' C. Joe ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 20:55:12 -0400 From: mary Subject: RE: Kravitz is Krap At 05:06 PM 6/25/2003 -0700, Catherine Simpson wrote: >artists and bands in the REM vein. Other than Robyn, whose music I have >deemed damned-near necessary for the continuation of life as I know it, I >listen to primarily Goth/Industrial/Ethereal bands (or at least >*used-to-be-more-Goth* bands like the Cure). At all the Robyn shows I've >been to, I've only met one other Goth-ish person, so I'm guessing that Robyn >and music-to-slit-your-wrists-by don't exactly go hand in hand for most >folks. Fair assessment? Or are there others like me lurking out there that I >don't know about? Due to my love for all things dark and beautiful I tend to think of myself as "goth-ish." My favourite band is Joy Division and I love Bauhaus, The Cure, Dead Can Dance, The Legendary Pink Dots, Love Spirals Downward, Ministry, Siouxsie, The Tear Garden, Tones on Tail to name a few. In addition to prog and goth music, I listen to ambient, electronica, punk, new wave, alternative, and indie rock. I guess each genre reflects different times of my life but I still love them all - I haven't given up any as time goes by. >- Catherine (otherwise known as the >"lightly-tattooed-purple-haired-goth-queen-soccer-mom") s.Mary (I have no claim to queen-dom but I am "lightly-pierced-sometimes purple, sometimes neon red, sometimes pink-haired") : ) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 02:00:53 +0100 (BST) From: crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com Subject: I said, stop drinking, Joe and go to bed... > And I like Diamanda Galas, but dislike rolling > naked in broken glass. > >I can understand that. But if you're a fan of hers you surely >enjoy >pounding yourself on the head with a sledgehammer. Ah! But that's the appeal of Diamanda. You find yourself flip-flopping between love and hate within one song, even. Only the other night, her version of Son House's Death Letter had me cooing and crying with delight one second and wanting to bash her brains out with said sledgehammer the next... Joe ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 18:59:37 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Attractives oppose Nora: >>What is with all you guys and Liz Phair? Is she inherrently hot? or does the >>Guyville persona make her hotter? What's the deal? Good songwriter? Interesting voice? Okay, maybe not so much any more on the first one. But the old stuff really holds up. The casual sexuality was sort of a by-product, to me; anyone writing that way about that kind of thing would be honor-bound to include "dirty talk". She's moderately hot. Eb's right, she's too short to be *that* hot. Miss February, though... can't speak to that issue. ____ Catherine: >>It seems that most of the other-than-Robyn music that I see discussed on this >>list runs toward Indie artists and bands in the REM vein. Hmmm... kinda... I like the feglist because it's less *limited* to that than a lot of other forums. You see more discussion of pre-punk music 'round here (see the various '70's lists). Way more '60's background (the psych thing, the folk thing), plus the occasional explosions of prog-talk and country-talk. >>I'm guessing that Robyn and music-to-slit-your-wrists-by don't exactly go >>hand in hand for most folks. Fair assessment? Hard to say; although I recognize the look, I've never actually understood the definition of Goth as a musical genre. But I certainly have records by bands that are claimed by Goths. I mean, I have Siouxsie and Bauhaus records, and that's fairly definitive, isn't it? Plus some Cure and hells of 4AD artists... However, while I like a lot of beat-heavy techno-derived music, Industrial never did much for me. I find it somewhat unsubtle and limited in emotional range. The same thing could be said about punk, which I like, but I find more humor, varied perspectives and songcraft at least among the punk bands I like than I ever heard in Industrial (and I have heard a fair amount of it). But I also don't enjoy feeling angry, and anger at the world is not a primary stance of mine. I'm more befuddled by it; I think that makes Robyn a pretty good proxy for me. I'm too young to have nostalgia for '60's music, so luckily I get to like it on its own terms, and for the most part I do, far more than most of what followed it. You can have my Nuggets boxed sets when you pry them from my cold dead hands... ____ Jeffrey: >>Okay, I confess to being utterly and completely baffled, buffalo'd, and >>bamboozled by the appeal of Jimmy Buffett. Me too, but apparently there's not a damned thing we can do about it. Completely (seemingly) reasonable people turn out to be devotees of this guy. And odder still, it seems to have become expected of all Americans that even if you're not a major Buffet fan (shan't use the "p" word) you should know all of his songs by name and at least most of the words, as you would with, say, the Beatles or Elvis. When was I supposed to get this education? It's odd. But he's the King of Independent Music, so take that, Sympathy for the Record Industry or whoever. ____ Eb: >>Luna but not Galaxie 500. I can see this (not unlike the Sugar/Husker Du thing). I like both but favor G500... that was important stuff back in the day. >>I like Jason Falkner/World Party/Owsley/Jellyfish, etc., but dislike >>Fountains of Wayne. FOW is a meh thing for me, and I had thought for many others, but it seems that they've slowly become critical uber-darlings... a *feature* in Entertainment Weekly??? Never got Jellyfish; they seemed to be a distillation of the extraneous stuff that got added to good power pop in the '70's without the initial goodness. My favorite thing to come out of that lineage is the Moog Cookbook (read: good for a larf). >>Like Cat Stevens, dislike James Taylor. Makes sense in the context of Fegdom; not surprised to see others agree. The Jam, that one's odd, but I can sort of see it; next time you try 'em, start with the albums in the middle, then go backwards, see if that helps. Meanwhile, I wouldn't feel bad about the disliking Jackson Browne thing in the least. >>Or liking Love & Rockets and Tones on Tail, but disliking Bauhaus? Maybe >>that's the biggie. I can think of a couple of reasons you might feel that way. Generally I would think that a lot of people might have felt this way in the late '80's when L&R had actual "hits"; fewer now since Bauhaus has become more "legendary". I really like Warren Zevon (not to mention Tom Waits), but I can't get into Randy Newman to save my life. I like the Yardbirds but am lukewarm at best on Zepplin. I like Cheap Trick but I don't like anyone else on the '70's butt rock compilation with them. I like the Flying Burrito Brothers but not the Eagles, for the most part. I like Nick Drake but I don't especially like Belle & Sebastian. I don't even see that much of a connection but everyone else seems to. I love Sleater-Kinney but I'm not too into Bikini Kill. I like Echo & the Bunnymen (and X) but I don't much like the Doors. I love REM but I wouldn't piss on Live if they were on fire. And my "more meh than it should be" attitude towards the Smiths is well documented (somewhere offlist, Drew senses this sentence and cries out at the injustice). - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 18:59:22 -0700 From: Eb Subject: For a refreshing change of pace... ...here's yet another reap. A forwarded message from Mike Watt: hi everyone, ethan james was a dear friend of mine in this music world. we spent much time together at his radio tokyo studio in venice, ca during the 80s. he's the man who recorded and mixed the minutemen's "double nickels on the dime" (mixed all fortyfive songs in one night!) as well as "project: mersh" and the first side of our "buzz or howl..." eps plus our final record, "three-way tie (for last)." he also recorded and mixed the first two fIREHOSE records and all three of the dos ones. I worked w/him producing saccharine trust's "we became snakes," the treacherous jaywalkers (josh haden's first band) first album, phantom opera's first album and joey eight's (w/carla bozulich) invisible chains album. I did the crimony (me and paul roessler) single and ep w/him. I actually played w/him too for my part of the ciccone youth single where he programmed the linn drum. I worked w/him lots when it came to me and recording music (along w/my good friend spot, who did all the early minutemen recordings). he was way into jamming econo and never tried to stick me up w/a money scam (quite a rarity in this racket). ethan also had much respect for another's music and was never dominating or controlling - it was always a pleasure working w/him. he was always patient w/me and such an insightful cat - he had tons of knowledge about all kinds of things - you could never be bored spending lots of time w/ethan! I liked ethan very much and will miss him so. I have many good memories of him and they will stay w/me always. he was very inspiring. I feel I was very fortunate to meet and work w/such an individual, he instilled much confidence in me to pursue music as an endeavor and not be afraid to take chances. love to you ethan and please rest easy. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 23:57:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: RE: Kravitz is Krap On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Catherine Simpson wrote: > artists and bands in the REM vein. Other than Robyn, whose music I have > deemed damned-near necessary for the continuation of life as I know it, I > listen to primarily Goth/Industrial/Ethereal bands (or at least > *used-to-be-more-Goth* bands like the Cure). At all the Robyn shows I've > been to, I've only met one other Goth-ish person, so I'm guessing that Robyn > and music-to-slit-your-wrists-by don't exactly go hand in hand for most > folks. Fair assessment? Or are there others like me lurking out there that I > don't know about? Add me to the lurkers who have stepped forward (lurking goths, how stereotypical). I enjoy quite a lot of music that's generally considered goth or industrial, including Bauhaus, Siouxsie, The Cure, Joy Division, Sisters of Mercy, Dead Can Dance, Skinny Puppy, Einsturzende Neubauten, Ministry, Laibach, all the usual suspects, plus other bands unknown outside of the genre ghetto: Ikon, Switchblade Symphony, Sunshine Blind, Wumpscut, Die Krupps, Faith and the Muse, Black Tape for a Blue Girl, numerous ethereal groups whose names always seem to start with L, The Machine in the Garden, Voltaire, and so on. I've also spent more than my share of time wearing black and hanging out in clubs where such music is played; and while I don't look too goth, close observers might notice a tendency toward black shirts and boots. I never considered myself a goth, not quite; but then again, it's well known that denying that one is a goth is just Goth As Fuck (GAF). Aside from all this dark stuff and Robyn, I'm also fond of a lot of punk, 80s and 90s college and alternative rock, heavy metal, electronica, Phish (though most other jam bands get a big Eh from me), new wave/synthpop and cheesy 80s pop, many prog groups, and even some classic rock (though not much, I overdosed on it in college). I like to think I have eclectic tastes, but my friends know I'm really just moody and indecisive. - --Chris "Azrael Abyss" the Christer ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 22:58:11 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Attractives oppose Quoting "Rex.Broome" : > Nora: > >>What is with all you guys and Liz Phair? Is she inherrently hot? or > does > the >>Guyville persona make her hotter? What's the deal? > > Good songwriter? Interesting voice? I'm not sure what you (Nora) mean by "the Guyville persona": if you mean That Line Every Critic Quoted (the one about kneepad-sporting royalty), no, because (a) it was obvious, even w/in the song, that that playing-at-porn-star thing was a performance, and (b) uh, listen to the rest of th lyrics? But lessee...yeah, I think she's "inherently hot" (whatever "inherently" means here: regardless of her status in the '90s as indie-rock queen?), but for me, that "hotness" is inextricable from her coolness, her talent, her intelligence, etc. Which is why everything I've read, heard, and seen about the new record really disappoints me - even though I could see it coming, charting a linear progression from "Girlysound" onward through _Whitechocolatespaceegg_ (bad enough that she runs the words together; I refuse to lowercase the damned thing). But, uh, the L*ud F*mily list is in the middle of an ongoing and semi-heated discussion of some of the questions you raise, so I'm kinda worded out on that one. (Hard to believe, I know.) ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: sex, drugs, revolt, Eskimos, atheism ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 12:47:29 +0200 From: Ethyl Ketone Subject: Re: Opposites Attract On Mercoledl, giu 25, 2003, at 22:49 Europe/Rome, Glen Uber wrote: >> I probably oughta like Jackson Browne based on other >> interests, but don't. > > Oh, man. I can't stand that guy. In my teens I listened to a lot of > L.A. > country rock like the Eagles, Poco, Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, etc. (still > like most of it) and couldn't abide Jackson Browne. There's just > something unappealing about him. Maybe it's that same C to Csus > progression he uses in every frickin' song. Maybe it's the fact that he > hits women. > Yeah, I copped to liking him in my teens in the 70s but now he just sounds like a whiner. - - c ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 22:45:03 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: New Zealand Legalizes Brothels >Yet another reason for a Feg gathering at James' house. > >http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=583&ncid=583&e=5&u=/nm/2003 >0625/od_nm/life_newzealand_prostitution_dc by 61 votes to 59 - a very closely contested bit of legislation. And no, I haven't sampled the wares :) James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 02:52:52 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: New Zealand Legalizes Brothels Yet another reason for a Feg gathering at James' house. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=583&ncid=583&e=5&u=/nm/20030625/od_nm/life_newzealand_prostitution_dc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 09:25:58 -0500 From: "Iosso, Ken" Subject: RE: another list I'm glad to see John Barleycorn Must Die - doesn't anyone want to begrudgingly credit Frampton Comes Alive? As to the question of why every heavy metal singer has that helium howl and that really long hair, the answer is very simple: ROBERT PLANT. And Liz Phair is beautiful and Exile in Guyville is one of the greatest albums of all time. Ken Iosso -----Original Message----- From: Bachman, Michael [mailto:Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 6:28 PM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: RE: another list I can't believe anyone has yet to mention one of my favorites from the 1970's The Pretty Things - Parachute Allman Brothers - Live at The Filmore Derek and the Dominoes - Layla Jethro Tull - Benefit Eno - Another Green World John Cale - Paris 1919 Gang of Four - Entertainment! Big Star - Third/Sister Lovers MC5 - High Time Santana - Caravansari Talking Heads - Fear of Music Rachel Sweet - Fool Around The Soft Boys - Can of Bees Captain Beyond - Captain Beyond Yes - Close to the Edge Traffic - John Barlycorn Must Die Richard and Linda Thompson - I Want to See The Bright Lights Tonight The Clash - The Clash Wishbone Ash - Argus Fleetwood Mac - Tusk (Then Play On was released in October of 1969 and would have made it save for a few months!) Another 19 to follow at a later date. - -----Original Message----- From: brian@lazerlove5.com [mailto:brian@lazerlove5.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:32 PM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Re: another list > > Michael Jackson - Off the Wall Yep! And suprised or maybe not, but no one's mentioned Marvin Gaye's "I want you," a smooth masterpiece, or my favorite Gaye release: In Our Lifetime. But the obvious pick is his classic "What's going on?" The Buggles: The Age Of Plastic would definately be in my list. Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 09:32:27 -0500 From: "Iosso, Ken" Subject: RE: Kravitz is Krap Oh and Kravitz completely sucks - to put his name in the same sentence with Hendrix is heresy Ken Iosso -----Original Message----- From: Catherine Simpson [mailto:csimpson@tvn.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:07 PM To: 'crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com'; fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: RE: Kravitz is Krap (After "...a few drinks") Crowbar Joe said: >>Is there anyone else out there who think Lenny (Kravitz)has done more than three, OK, TWO, all righty, my >>last offer is ONE good track? I would like to go on record as saying that although I *did* say "I've been told that it's insane that I like ... Lenny Kravitz even though I can't stand Hendrix", I would not classify myself as an actual Lenny Kravitz "fan". My preference is to not listen to either Kravitz OR Hendrix, but that if I were in a situation where I had to listen to one or the other, I would choose Kravitz. I find Hendrix grating, and Kravitz more palatable. For that matter, I have no great love for the vast majority of music from the 1960's. Oh, don't get me wrong - the Beatles did some cool stuff, Bowie was always great, old Stones beats the crap out of anything they've done in the last 20 years... but, for the most part, I hold very little nostalgia for the music of my very-early childhood (born in '64). Which brings a question to mind... It seems that most of the other-than-Robyn music that I see discussed on this list runs toward Indie artists and bands in the REM vein. Other than Robyn, whose music I have deemed damned-near necessary for the continuation of life as I know it, I listen to primarily Goth/Industrial/Ethereal bands (or at least *used-to-be-more-Goth* bands like the Cure). At all the Robyn shows I've been to, I've only met one other Goth-ish person, so I'm guessing that Robyn and music-to-slit-your-wrists-by don't exactly go hand in hand for most folks. Fair assessment? Or are there others like me lurking out there that I don't know about? - - Catherine (otherwise known as the "lightly-tattooed-purple-haired-goth-queen-soccer-mom") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 09:45:17 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: RE: another list Quoting "Iosso, Ken" : > As to the question of why every heavy metal singer has that helium howl > and > that really long hair, the answer is very simple: ROBERT PLANT. If every metal singer sounded like Plant, that'd be irritating...but tolerable. But modern metal singers don't sound like Plant. Instead, they sound like Animal from the Muppets - or Tom Waits, in a really bad mood, bellowing at the lowest end of his range while being sodomized by an electric cattle prod. On every song. On every note. Over and over again. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: it's not your meat :: --Mr. Toad ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #237 ********************************