From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #235 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, June 25 2003 Volume 12 : Number 235 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Top 40 [long 70s post] [Michael R Godwin ] RE: Fegsong Comp [gshell@metronet.com] Re: Pseudo-Seligman [brian@lazerlove5.com] Re: 40 from the 70s [Aaron Mandel ] Hatfield and the Health ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: Hatfield and the Health ["Roberta Cowan" ] 70s blather (long post, no RH) [Ethyl Ketone ] Re: Hatfield and the Health [mary ] reap ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Hatfield and the Health [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] RE: 40 from the 70s [UglyNoraGrrl@aol.com] The eternal Dylan problem ["Rex.Broome" ] RE: 40 from the 70s [UglyNoraGrrl@aol.com] RE: 40 from the 70s ["Iosso, Ken" ] Girl, we couldn't get much better ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: Girl, we couldn't get much better ["Glen Uber" ] Re: prescription fun and games [gshell@metronet.com] Liz spend some time together ["Rex.Broome" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:09:53 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Top 40 [long 70s post] Oh, Natty Dread. Thanks for mentioning that one, Ken. The first 8 bars of 'Lively up yourself' take me straight back to an absolutely disastrous affair I had in 1975-76. Wonderful record but I can't stand listening to it because of the miserable associations. (Other items which trigger the same effect include green velvet drapery, sandalwood joss-sticks, red tartan coats, opium, Kahlil Gibran, stories about Libya, stuff like that). Seeing a mention of 'Squeezing out sparks' reminded me how good several of those Graham Parker and the Rumour albums are. Frinstance, which was the one with 'Jolie Jolie' on it? An old friend of mine still rates Al Green as one of his seminal influences, along with the Byrds, Dylan and Samuel Beckett. I can't see it myself. Michael, I thought that 'Legalize it' was a single, as was 'Police and thieves' by Junior Murvin. Both of those would have been contenders for my 1970s top 40 singles. I don't think I'd want an albumful of either, however. Marc et al, the Cars very nearly made it on to my list too. On the date of Trout Mask, the Lester Bangs review is from July 1969, but I'm surprised. Maybe it didn't come out till 1970 in the UK. Eb: >Godwin's list was predictably esoteric and you-had-to-be-there...I don't know a thing about "GRIMMS" or Michael Chapman, for instance. GRIMMS was a melange of Scaffold, Bonzos and Liverpool Scene members: john Gorman, andy Roberts, neil Innes, mike McGear, roger McGough and a bass player whose name began with an S. Brian Patten used to appear with them too, but never got into the acronym. Famed for their shows where Neil Innes appeared in phenomenally tall platform boots. > I don't think I'd allow The Basement Tapes though, since the music was actually recorded during the '60s. I knew you wouldn't like that. In that case you can't have 'The Madcap', which was recorded in 68 and 69, so yah boo sucks :-) Michael Chapman is a great singer-songwriter from Hull who was on Harvest in the old days, and still tours the folk circuit fairly regularly - see He discovered Mick Ronson. Last time I saw him was about 3 years ago, when he had just returned from US gigs with John Fahey. He had lots of Fahey stories and I was looking forward to seeing the old drunk again sometime, but I have heard that Fahey has since died. You must track down Pavlov's Dog. As usual, the first album is better than subsequent stuff. I discovered them because they were produced by Sandy Pearlman, the man who invented the name 'Blue Oyster Cult'. [Incidentally, BOC were never the same after super-excellent-fabbo drummer Albert Bouchard left in 1981. Has anyone seen his band the Brain Surgeons?] A lot of critics claim that Family were a big influence on early Genesis, particularly the songs 'Holding the Compass' and 'My friend the sun'. However, compares them to Traffic, as does Roberta. The original line-up of vocals, saxes doubling harmonica, bass-guitar doubling fiddle, 6 and 12 string guitar and drums was very flexible and produced some interesting tonalities. In my view they never recovered from two events: (a) the loss of sax-player Jim King, who left after a couple of albums {no idea why} and (b) the loss of bassist Ric Grech, who joined the ill-fated Blind Faith. However, they kept going for a further 3 or 4 years with a changing line-up. Live performances were excellent as long as you could restrain Chapman from going into his long soul jams such as "A song for me". Finally, a list of 70s gigs where you really did have to be there: 1 Little Feat _supporting_ the Doobie Brothers at the Rainbow 2 Rolling Stones at Bristol Colston Hall previewing songs from 'Sticky Fingers' 3 Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band, Clear Spot era, Bristol Colston Hall 4 Eric Clapton's comeback concert at the Rainbow 5 Zeppelin at Bath Pavilion 6 Traffic featuring Hood and Hawkins at the Rainbow 7 Astounding rock'n'roll line-up at Wembley Stadium including the MC5, Bill Haley, Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, Heinz supported by the Feelgoods, Billy Fury and Gary Glitter... 8 The Stiffs tour at Bath Uni including Nick and Dave, Larry Wallis, Wreckless Eric, Elvis Costello and the Attractions and (top of the bill) Ian Dury and the Blockheads. 9 Family farewell tour at Bristol Colston Hall (with Jim Cregan from Blossom Toes on bass) 10 Michael Chapman and Rick Kemp at Bradford on Avon folk club (including me on tambourine on 1 song!) - - MRG PS I'm really enjoying 'Give it to the Thoth Boys', Marc! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 07:28:36 -0500 (CDT) From: gshell@metronet.com Subject: RE: Fegsong Comp On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, randalljr wrote: > Vince "drummer--NOT a musician" that's the first step. 8) gSs ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 09:32:03 +0000 (GMT) From: brian@lazerlove5.com Subject: Re: Pseudo-Seligman Quoting Marc Holden : > I've been meaning to ask this for a while--Who played bass at the final > Soft > Boys show in Paris? From what I've heard, it wasn't Matthew. Any > ideas? What? Really? Someone do tell! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:24:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: 40 from the 70s On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > PIL: Quibble if you must - but PIL's a totally different band from the > Pistols. Should be on here for Jah Wobble's enormous, dubby bass alone - > and what he does with it: I could listen to the riff from "Pop Tones" > all by itself for hours. Have you heard the new Adult. album? I thought of Metal Box a lot while listening to it, but on the other hand they don't have the dexterity of PiL, just some of the same style. My collection has all of 62 items with dates in the 70s, which surprises me somewhat. That means that Rick Springfield's _Working Class Dog_ (1980) is in the oldest 5% of my records... But then, much as I may shoot my mouth off about some things, I've never claimed to know about music from before the punk era. It's a little depressing. If you take two records I've never heard that are equally well-loved by people who I know and share taste with, except that one's from 1972 and one's from 1982, it seems like there's a good chance I just won't 'get' the earlier one. a ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 09:55:32 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Hatfield and the Health Roberta Cowen wrote: > less noodly jazz rock fusion stuff than say Hatfield & the > North/National Health, more song > oriented, a quirky pop sensibility with a bit of subtle folk influence > even. Howdy Roberta. I'm a Proggie too. Hooray us! I'm just glad to actually see Hatfield & the North and National Health mentioned in the same sentence. I love those bands. While I do agree they do tend to noodle a bit, I find their music very engaging and easy to listen to (not a lot of bands can play a lot of notes and not be exhausting, I think). Recently I've begun listening to Camel, Caravan, and Gilgamesh. I like 'em lots. I think a lot of heavy metal bands would be better if they'd throw away their Black Sabbath LPs for a while and listened to some Canterbury prog (which Opeth does, incidentally). Is anybody attending NearFest? Mary? That looks like a screaming good time. NP: Slapp Happy / Henry Cow, "Some Questions About Hats" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:15:01 -0400 From: "Roberta Cowan" Subject: Re: Hatfield and the Health From Gene: >I'm a Proggie too. Hooray us! Hey Gene, backatcha. Happy to see you mention Gilgamesh, good stuff. 8-) >Is anybody attending NearFest? Yes, for the first time ever. I am psyched. Plus I will _finally_ get to see Camel, who I have been a big fan of for 25 years--too cool! Cheers, Roberta ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 18:20:40 +0200 From: Ethyl Ketone Subject: 70s blather (long post, no RH) On Martedl, giu 24, 2003, at 20:13 Europe/Rome, Eb wrote: > Ken Iosso: >> Bob Marley - Natty Dread > > Is this the first vote cast for Bob Marley? This probably says > something really awful (or, er, "dreadful") about how white-boy our > tastes are. ;) > > Eb I do believe I mentioned Natty Dread (which I may have titled Lively Up Yourself), circa '75, as quite influential (I never said I was a musician so the 2 note thing didn't bother me). Actually, it eclipsed all the other music I was listening to at the time, even the 70s jazz fusion stuff. I began the decade living in some shitty suburb of LA in jr. high school, by '74 was living in Santa Barbara practicing the 3 S's: surfing, sailing and smoking, and slowly dropping out of college. Then I hit the road and didn't have a stereo, ending my album buying. By '80 I was living in San Francisco (obvious migration to me) and wearing black, going to the Fab Mab and Tool & Die to see the punk bands. (DK, CCMFs, MDC, etc) I also remember Tuxedo Moon and the beginning of listening to electronic music but I think that was '81 so it doesn't count. There was never any disco in my life. I probably can't list 40 but I can give it a shot (and I count multiples by an artist as each album was unique - at the time): Joni Mitchell - Blue, For The Roses, Clouds, The HIssing of Summer Lawns, Hejira Steve Stills - 1st and 2nd albums (can't remember the titles) CSN&Y - what was that 2 disc LP called? Deja Vu? Was that the 70s? Tom Waits - The Heart of Saturday Night, Nighthawks at the Diner Bob Dylan - Blood on the Tracks, Desire Pink Floyd - Meddle, Obscured By Clouds, Dark Side of the Moon Jefferson Starship - Blows Against The Empire Grateful Dead - Wake of The Flood Rolling Stones - Get Your Ya-Ya's Out, Let It Bleed Jackson Browne - Saturate Before Using, For Everyman, The Pretender Bob Marley & The Wailers - Natty Dread, Rastaman Vibrations Jimmy Cliff, et al - The Harder They Come Jimmy Buffett - Living & Dying in 3/4 Time, A1A, A White Sport Coat & A Pink Crustacean, Havana Daydreamin', Changes in Latitudes, Changes in Attitudes, etc. The Firesign Theater - all the 70s albums! But maybe more interesting, concerts seen in the 70s (but you didn't have to be there however the * indicates a must), or at least those I remember: *Pink Floyd, Meddle tour, Hollywood Bowl, LA '72 *Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon Tour, The Forum, LA '75 Van Morrison, The Shrine, LA '74 Joni Mitchell, The Long Beach Arena, LA '73/'74 Steve Stills, Hollywood Bowl, LA '72 (he was drunk and ranting about Nixon) Steve Stills, Orange County Fairgrounds, San Berdoo, '74 Jefferson Starship - several shows in the greater LA area '73 - '75 The Beach Boys - NYs, Long Beach, '74 Grateful Dead - NYs Oakland, '75, '76 Grateful Dead - Day on the Green, Santa Barbara, '74, '75, '76 (one of those years a very drunk Warren Zevon got booed off the stage) *Bob Marley & The Wailers - Santa Barbara County Bowl, '76 Jackson Brown - The Pretender Tour, Santa Barbara County Bowl In Santa Barbara at various venues, circa '75 - '78 James Taylor Jimmy Cliff Toots & The Maytals Peter Tosh Tom Waits (several times, during his "very drunk for concerts" stage) Peter Frampton (a disasterous first date and a truly horrible performer) Jimmy Buffett - Greek Theater, UC Berkeley, '78 (almost got to see) The Rolling Stones - The Forum, LA '74 (actually, I had tickets but my father wouldn't let me go saying they were the "center of the drug culture") The Moody Blues - Long Beach Arena circa '74 Jethro Tull - The Forum (year forgotten) In the middle of a song a phone rings on stage, they stop playing and answer it, then ask for a "Mike Nelson." A guy in a frogman suit, complete with fins and mask, gets up in the audience and walks up on stage, takes the phone and starts talking. Hey, it REALLY happened - the drugs weren't that good. Weather Report - several shows Herbie Hancock Chick Corea and Return to Forever and of course: The Firesign Theater - too many times to mention Then the completely mindfucking show: X and The Germs - Whisky A-Go-Go, '78 And in '78 I was in NYC and went to CBGBs and saw what I distinctly remember being billed as the "Tom Tom Club." (Of course in '78 I went to Key West because that was where Jimmy Buffett lived...ah, misguided youth!) Be Seeing You, - - Ethyl "older than I look, the oldster" Ketone ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:55:24 -0400 From: mary Subject: Re: Hatfield and the Health At 09:55 AM 6/25/2003 -0500, Gene Geenie wrote: >Is anybody attending NearFest? Mary? That looks like a screaming good time. Nope - not me. I haven't been to a NearFest since moving to NYC. Luckily, some of the bands from the festival play in NYC so I can catch them in town. Looking at this year's lineup - lots of old boys in the mix. Magma would be fun to see. I'm not a huge Camel fan though - left those lps and cds behind with my ex. He also kept the Pavlov's Dog lps. I do miss living in Maryland - I hard a larger group of proggy friends who had connections. A couple of them were responsible for Progscape (a prog music festival in Baltimore) and for hosting shows at Orion Studios (a very intimate setting of no more than 25-30 people.) I've seen and met some great musicians at Progscape and Orion - Tony Levin, Trey Gunn, the California Guitar Trio, Porcupine Tree, Djam Karat, Echolyn, Miriodor, Anekdoten.) s.Mary np - U.K. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 12:25:11 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: reap Lester Maddox, 87. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:03:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Hatfield and the Health On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > I think a lot of heavy metal bands would be better if they'd throw away > their Black Sabbath LPs for a while and listened to some Canterbury > prog (which Opeth does, incidentally). I think a lot of prog bands would be better if they'd throw away their metal albums... My problem w/metal nowadays (what I've heard of it, mostly courtesy a former student who does the metal show at our community radio station) is the goddam Drano-victim vocals: I mean, is that supposed to be scary, or funny, or what? What it is is annoying, when it's on every damned record. The other thing is that pummeling becomes nearly ambient when it's all you do - *contrast*, folks, *contrast* (and not with an interlude that makes the Moody Blues' "For My Lady" sound as dark and edgy as, uh, metal thinks it is). Otherwise, there seem to be some fairly interesting musical ideas there - mostly the ones borrowed from...prog bands. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::Never drive a car when you're dead:: __Tom Waits__ np: John Coltrane _Blue Train_ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 13:15:02 -0400 From: UglyNoraGrrl@aol.com Subject: RE: 40 from the 70s In alphabetical order: AC/DC b Highway to Hell B-52bs b The B-52bs Big Star - Radio City Black Sabbath - Paranoid Blondie b Parallel Lines Bob Dylan b Desire Brian Eno b Another Green World Buzzcocks b Singles Going Steady Cheap Trick b In Color Clash b London Calling David Bowie b Low Elvis Costello and the Attractions b This Yearbs Model Genesis b The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway George Harrison b All Things Must Pass Iggy Pop b Lust For Life Jam b All Mod Cons John Cale - Paris 1919 John Lennon b Plastic Ono Band Joy Division b Closer Kinks b Muswell Hillbillies Lou Reed - Transformer Magazine b Real Life Modern Lovers b The Modern Lovers Paul and Linda McCartney b Ram Peter Gabriel b Peter Gabriel I (Rain) Ramones b Road to Ruin Randy Newman b Good Old Boys Roxy Music b For Your Pleasure Simon & Garfunkel - Bridge Over Troubled Water Soft Boys b Can of Bees Split Enz b True Colors Syd Barrett b Barrett T.Rex b The Slider Talking Heads b Fear of Music Television b Marquee Moon Todd Rundgren b Something/Anything Van Morrison b Tupelo Honey Velvet Underground - Loaded Wire b 154 XTC b Go2 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:29:52 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: The eternal Dylan problem Catherine: >>am I the only one on this list whose ear's bleed at >>the sound of Bob Dylan? I've been told that it's insane that I like Robyn >>Hitchcock but not Dylan, and, for that matter, Lenny Kravitz even though I >>can't stand Hendrix... This has come up every once in a while since before I was born. But I don't think you should feel too pressured to enjoy Dylan since he's also one of the most mocked and maligned artists of all time on the basis of his voice alone... how many "Dylan impressions" consist of just unitelligible nasally whining and are performed by people who don't know his music at all? I think the vast majority's impression of him is just as you say... great songwriter who can't sing. Certainly my dad, who was aligned with the smoother side of the folk revival (cf. A Mighty Wind), introduced me to the idea of Dylan this way, as someone who needed Peter Paul & Mary or the Kingston Trio to make his songs palatable. I kinda bought it for a while after becoming a fan of the Byrds and the Band. Then as I was starting to delve into "Biograph" I bought myself a used vinyl copy of "Blonde on Blonde" and the unique sound of the whole package, voice included, turned my little college freshman brain inside out and made me a complete convert. Since then, and the period of frantic Dylan acquisition that immediately followed, even the best Dylan covers sound kind of wrong to me; the guy is his songs and vice versa, to me at least. But I would never say you were "insane" for not wanting to hear Dylan's voice. That's obviously kind of normal. There's a much stronger case to be made for the insanity of Dylan fans, and it involves more than just us liking his vocals. Lenny Kravitz, though, I can't help you there... don't see much to recommend him. Not extremely hateable, but not too interesting, either. I hear derivation with little in the way of new twists. I forget that he exists and has passionate fans for long stretches at a time. ______ Eb: >>I think "Even Eb" could be a right peachy song. I imagine sort of an >>Alanis-style parallel-construction structure. ;) One (totally insane) idea would be to do "Secret Santa Songwriters" where everyone gets the name of another list member and has to write a song about that person. I was thinking about this while I was driving home yesterday but I had to stop when I started to think that "What's James Flying Today?" was kind of a good idea for a song... a series of portraits of strife in the world with the title as a refrain... >>PS Who will offer me $95.48 for my autographed Loud Family CD? ;) Oooh oooh ooohh! No way in hell. (smiley emoticon here if I used them) ____ Matt S: >>The Jazz Butcher. He did a storming version of Take >>The Skinheads Bowling with accompaniment from his skinhead friend... Wow, that song's really coming around again, with the CVB box, the CVB reunion, the Teenage Fanclub version and now this (looks like the UK is leading the charge). I useta sing it for my daughter. It's kinda slight compared to a lot of CVB you might choose to cover, but too much fun to resist, I guess. I just started listening to the Jazz Butcher recently (thanks Blatzman)... good stuff. Shame about the name(s). - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 13:21:31 -0400 From: UglyNoraGrrl@aol.com Subject: RE: 40 from the 70s > AC/DC b!! Highway to Hell Shit, that got formatted all wrong. Sorry! Here it is again: AC/DC b Highway to Hell B-52bs b The B-52bs Big Star - Radio City Black Sabbath - Paranoid Blondie b Parallel Lines Bob Dylan b Desire Brian Eno b Another Green World Buzzcocks b Singles Going Steady Cheap Trick b In Color Clash b London Calling David Bowie b Low Elvis Costello and the Attractions b This Yearbs Model Genesis b The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway George Harrison b All Things Must Pass Iggy Pop b Lust For Life Jam b All Mod Cons John Cale - Paris 1919 John Lennon b Plastic Ono Band Joy Division b Closer Kinks b Muswell Hillbillies Lou Reed - Transformer Magazine b Real Life Modern Lovers b The Modern Lovers Paul and Linda McCartney b Ram Peter Gabriel b Peter Gabriel I (Rain) Ramones b Road to Ruin Randy Newman b Good Old Boys Roxy Music b For Your Pleasure Simon & Garfunkel - Bridge Over Troubled Water Soft Boys b Can of Bees Split Enz b True Colors Syd Barrett - Barrett T.Rex b The Slider Talking Heads b Fear of Music Television b Marquee Moon Todd Rundgren b Something/Anything Van Morrison b Tupelo Honey Velvet Underground - Loaded Wire b 154 XTC b Go2 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 12:41:50 -0500 From: "Iosso, Ken" Subject: RE: 40 from the 70s Todd Rundren's Something/Anything - BRILLIANT! I'm getting rid of Aqualung after all - although I'm going to miss Locomotive Breath - no matter what Johny Rotten says. Ken Iosso Aide to Commissioner Ortega phone 651-266-8367 fax 651-266-8370 - -----Original Message----- From: UglyNoraGrrl@aol.com [mailto:UglyNoraGrrl@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 12:22 PM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: RE: 40 from the 70s > AC/DC b!! Highway to Hell Shit, that got formatted all wrong. Sorry! Here it is again: AC/DC b Highway to Hell B-52bs b The B-52bs Big Star - Radio City Black Sabbath - Paranoid Blondie b Parallel Lines Bob Dylan b Desire Brian Eno b Another Green World Buzzcocks b Singles Going Steady Cheap Trick b In Color Clash b London Calling David Bowie b Low Elvis Costello and the Attractions b This Yearbs Model Genesis b The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway George Harrison b All Things Must Pass Iggy Pop b Lust For Life Jam b All Mod Cons John Cale - Paris 1919 John Lennon b Plastic Ono Band Joy Division b Closer Kinks b Muswell Hillbillies Lou Reed - Transformer Magazine b Real Life Modern Lovers b The Modern Lovers Paul and Linda McCartney b Ram Peter Gabriel b Peter Gabriel I (Rain) Ramones b Road to Ruin Randy Newman b Good Old Boys Roxy Music b For Your Pleasure Simon & Garfunkel - Bridge Over Troubled Water Soft Boys b Can of Bees Split Enz b True Colors Syd Barrett - Barrett T.Rex b The Slider Talking Heads b Fear of Music Television b Marquee Moon Todd Rundgren b Something/Anything Van Morrison b Tupelo Honey Velvet Underground - Loaded Wire b 154 XTC b Go2 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:06:51 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Girl, we couldn't get much better Seriously, you guys... if I call it "Fuck You Tom Clark/Fuck You Natalie Jane", Wal-Mart will NEVER stock it. How ever will Astonishing Panda Inferno Records* recover the costs of production? *a division of AOL/Time Warner/Yoyodyne/MegaloCorp etc... Rex Broome, corporate bitch ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:55:21 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Graham Parker on 6/25/03 6:09 AM, Michael R Godwin at M.R.Godwin@bath.ac.uk wrote: > Seeing a mention of 'Squeezing out sparks' reminded me how good several > of those Graham Parker and the Rumour albums are. Frinstance, which was > the one with 'Jolie Jolie' on it? "The Up Escalator". Man, I was the biggest GP fan in the early 80's - used to scribble his lyrics all over the desks in college. Never saw him live though and then lost interest when "The Real Macaw" came out. "I know what you want, and you know what I need, and don't you ever forget it" - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:59:55 -0700 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: Re: Girl, we couldn't get much better Rex.Broome earnestly scribbled: >Seriously, you guys... if I call it "Fuck You Tom Clark/Fuck You Natalie >Jane", Wal-Mart will NEVER stock it. How ever will Astonishing Panda >Inferno Records* recover the costs of production? Well, we may as well just call it "Smell the Glove," then. - -- Cheers! - -g- "Half the world's starving and have the world bloats; half the world sits on the other and gloats." --Robyn Hitchcock, "Cheese Alarm" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:01:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: the accent's on hip This is old, but... On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > Quoting Miles Goosens : > > On TV, all hicks, all sheriffs, and all state troopers are from the > > Southern U.S. > > But only if they're bad guys. If'n they're good guys, they're usually > not. This is the same phenomenon that makes every bureaucrat, government official, or high ranking officer speak in a british accent, but only if he's a bad guy. See Gladiator (or just about any Roman epic), Star Wars (OK, make that just about any epic), and for the worst example of all time Toys (where the villian is the brother of the hero and a U.S. Army general who has a british accent). J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 12:36:46 -0500 (CDT) From: gshell@metronet.com Subject: Re: prescription fun and games On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Barbara Soutar wrote: > You won't believe this. Yesterday my husband got an official > prescription for marijuana. damn, i need a new doctor. so this means he can walk around with a stick in his mouth and the cops won't arrest or ticket him? or does the law say intake has to be done in private? wow, you could cop a semi-legitimate contact buzz plea. do you guys have legal or protected pot growing and purchasing institutions to help protect the prescription holders? gSs ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 12:12:16 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Liz spend some time together Catherine then Glen: >>>I've been told that it's insane that I like Robyn >>>Hitchcock but not Dylan, and, for that matter, >>I've had the same reaction when I told people I like Hitchcock, but not REM. Potential thread? Pairs of artists who are almost universally mutually liked by the same people, but you like one and dislike the other? I can't beat the guy I once knew who liked the Mighty Lemon Drops and not Echo & the Bunnymen, and also Sugar but neither Husker Du nor Bob Mould solo. I'm sure there are many who assume that anyone who likes Nirvana likes Smashing Pumpkins, or even Alice in Chains, but that's sort of a function of "what's huge in rock"--since everyone apparently likes Radiohead, rare would be the person who likes, say, the Beta Band and not Radiohead, but that's not the kind of natural pairing I'm thinking of. I like New Order but not so much Depeche Mode, that might count. Ehh, maybe it's too hard to explain what the hell I mean. Hey, I have that eggBert Hollies tribute record. And Mike Randle's the guy from LA band Baby Lemonade (aka Love) which always weirds me out because one of my best friends is a totally different Mike Randle who also lives in LA. Plus I once saw John Easdale open for the Lo*d F*mily. I was never a Dramarama fan but it was a nice set, more my speed than his old band; he had a great guitarist. _________ I really hope your year improves in the second half, Eb. I just found out that a friend of ours, a single mom from our birthing class three years ago, is starting chemo for breast cancer; this after losing another friend to the same last fall. Something in the air? Bleh. _________ Speaking of self censorship, listening to Liz Phair live on the radio, and got these lines: "and then accused me of trying to me it up"; "like a cherub's... like a cherub's"; "and you're hot like a volcano". Why is she doing all these tunes where the bowlderization is so conspicuous? She declined to sing the word "ass"? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 20:01:37 +0100 (BST) From: Jim Davies Subject: re: rex plectra * I actually stole two of Paul's picks, but then my girlfriend got to go backstage with the band, and so, unsure that I'd ever get her back, I gave the other one to this painfully cute girl from Minneapolis who'd been right beside me shouting the lyrics all night long, just in case, and she did give me her number and everything, but my girlfriend showed up just before I was about to take the metro home and that was that. back in '88 my then girlfiend disappeared backstage in oxford for a smoke with pat the jazz butcher, who's a gentleman, only to be booted back by an enthusiastically carapaced female who appeared to hail from the other side of the atlantic, and was clearly the butcher's squeeze nobody wanted my number in the meantime, but that was okay, i wasn't particularly memorable - in fact, i forget now what i looked like, except that it probably involved more hair but said then girlfiend, now an angel of the Sun, dragged me off to see rem last night, at the carling brixton academy, and that would be enough to make up for any eighties' backstage butchery amazing gig just amazing pilgrimage, little america, feeling gravity's pull, driver 8, maps and legends, and - uh - a rocked-out version of everybody hurts ooh, and people have the power, a la patti i guess that they played for about two and half hours; i certainly missed the last train home it was a little wierd (calling mike godwin, time traveller) as last time we'd seen rem together was the green tour, with the blue aeroplanes supporting, in fair newport, then in gwent, in a slightly smaller venue but much the same feeling that would have been '89? i couldn't tell you which gig was better, but i'm thinking maybe '03 didn't meet a cute girl from any twin city then, either, unless you mean cardiff, but i remember driving into someone on the way home: we both got out, he saw my rem t-shirt, said "fucking amazing gig, eh?", and then "forget it" - meaning what i'd just done to his rear bumper (a la grace jones) my point, and i did have one, was that 14 years have gone by between the two gigs 14 years fuck what happened? x ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #235 ********************************