From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #234 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, June 25 2003 Volume 12 : Number 234 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Top 40 [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] RE: 40 from the 70s [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] RE: 40 from the 70s [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: Fegsong Comp [Tom Clark ] RE: The ME decade, by ME [Catherine Simpson ] Re: Fegsong Comp ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: Fegsong Comp [Eb ] Songs about the list [John Barrington Jones ] RE: 40 from the 70s [Eb ] Re: RE: The ME decade, by ME ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Jah Wobble hearts Jethro Tull; the Plectrum as Pickup Line ["Rex.Broome" ] RE: 40 from the 70s [Aaron Mandel ] RE: The ME decade, by ME ["Glen Uber" ] Re: RE: The ME decade, by ME [FSThomas ] RE: 40 from the 70s ["Iosso, Ken" ] RE: 40 from the 70s [FSThomas ] Re: Original Feggy Songs Compilation [Groove Puppy ] Re: 40 from the 70s ["Stewart C. Russell" ] More titles for sale... ["Rex.Broome" ] RE: RE: The ME decade, by ME [Catherine Simpson ] Submission Deadline (tentative) ["Rex.Broome" ] luxor ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Reap [Eb ] Re: 40 from the 70s ["Roberta Cowan" ] Pseudo-Seligman ["Marc Holden" ] re: Re: Top 40 ["Marc Holden" ] re: Re: Top 40 [Eb ] 24/6 birthdays and grey-haired men... ["Matt Sewell" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 14:30:36 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Top 40 Quoting Marc Holden : > DEVO--Q. Are We Not Men? A. We Are DEVO! That's the problem w/this sort of this - the online equivalent of l'esprit d'escalier or whatever the Freedoms call it: after the fact, I'm always thinking or being reminded of stuff I can't believe I left off. > X--Wild Gift (I can't believe I didn't see any X on the lists so far) Not sure whether this one or the first one, but yeah... ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb :: --Batman np: The Oranges Band _On TV_ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 14:38:23 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: RE: 40 from the 70s Quoting "Iosso, Ken" : > Cat Stevens Due for (yet another) critical re-evaluation, I think: he has this reputation as being all soft and wimpy, yet he could be pretty dark lyrically, his songs were not yr garden variety sensitive-soul-with-acoustic-guitar-and-three-chords, and that graininess in his voice makes his singing intriguing. Like a lot of '70s folks, he made some missteps (I'm just talking about musically now), but he also made at least two or three pretty fine albums, and scattered good songs elsewhere. > And despite the groans it elicits - Aqualung would have been on every list > of the top 40 of the 70's if they had been done in 1979. Just barely didn't make mine...Jethro Tull's another group whose music, I think, stands up better now that it doesn't have to bear the weight of being against the current fashion. Not that it's fashionable - it's just (for most people) completely irrelevant. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: we make everything you need, and you need everything we make ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 14:43:45 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: RE: 40 from the 70s Quoting Eb : > Is this the first vote cast for Bob Marley? This probably says > something really awful (or, er, "dreadful") about how white-boy our > tastes are. ;) Or that we're not a bunch of stoned, hackey-sack -kicking doofuses... You're not seriously suggesting that Marley doesn't have a *huge* white audience? I think he's one of those artists who suffers from what followed him: reggae itself seemed (from my limited exposure to our community radio station's Thursday night reggae show) to have devolved into the Jamaican equivalent of the lamest commercial gangsta hip-hop, and when you add in all those insufferable pseudo-reggae tracks everyone felt compelled to do in the early '80s... Hell, even Frank Zappa had a reggae rhythm or three on a few of his songs. The problem I have w/most classic reggae is the same problem I have w/a lot of hip-hop: the rhythm and lyrics take precedence over other musical elements (it seems like half the reggae songs in the world use the same two chords), and both repetitive rhythm and paying attention to lyrics are at the bottom of my musical interests. Definitely "essential" in the sense of influential, though. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: it's not your meat :: --Mr. Toad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 12:44:08 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Fegsong Comp on 6/24/03 11:59 AM, Jason R. Thornton at jthornton@ucsd.edu wrote: > Fuck You, Natalie Jane Jacobs. (I'd just add this to the Tom Clark title) If it ends up being a two-disc set, then these should be the titles. - -tc nw - Wimbledon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 12:47:23 -0700 From: Catherine Simpson Subject: RE: The ME decade, by ME Earlier, someone (I apologize that I've forgotten who it was) said that the album that seemed to be showing up on everyone's list was "Blood on the Tracks", and I see it here on Rex's list, as well. I'd like to pose the following question... am I the only one on this list whose ear's bleed at the sound of Bob Dylan? I've been told that it's insane that I like Robyn Hitchcock but not Dylan, and, for that matter, Lenny Kravitz even though I can't stand Hendrix... Now, don't get me wrong, I don't mind Dylan-as-performed-by-Hitchcock (though I just couldn't make myself pay actual money to buy "Robyn Sings"), I just think Dylan should have kept his mouth shut and let others sing his fine songs. Whaddya think? What's so compelling about Dylan that everyone overlooks the fact that he can't sing? - - Catherine (who's pretty sure she just dropped a match into a powder keg!) - -----Original Message----- From: Rex.Broome [mailto:Rex.Broome@preferredmedia.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:41 PM To: 'fegmaniax@smoe.org' Subject: The ME decade, by ME Let's say you throw off the "one release per artist" rule. Then I end up with something like this: ... Bob Dylan/Blood on the Tracks ... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 14:48:58 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: Fegsong Comp Rex.Broome said out loud: > Subject: Fegsong Comp > > Fuck You Tom Clark How's about: Capuchin Sane Ray Davies' Wicked Love Child The Record Andy Partridge Doesn't Want You To Know About The Beatles Played Backwards One Time, At Band Camp... So Tommy's A Boy Dog ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 12:32:38 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Fegsong Comp >I kinda hope that's the beginning of the track list. Maybe you >should have a requirement that everyone write a NEW song for the >compilation, and they have to pick a title from a given list. I >want an album ABOUT the list, not just from the list. ;) > >This List Sucks Now, So I'm Unsubscribing >Oppressive Udders >Fuck You, Natalie Jane Jacobs. (I'd just add this to the Tom Clark title) >Top 40 Non-Disco, Non-Country-Arena-Rock Songs from the 1970s >Reap!!! >Movies Based on Comic Books >Lawndart >Capitalism Blows >Can of Eb's (although I'm the only one that hears it as "E.B." in my head) >Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! >Eat the Placenta >Vote Nader! I think "Even Eb" could be a right peachy song. I imagine sort of an Alanis-style parallel-construction structure. ;) Eb np: "Brainfry Beat" on mp3, followed by "Queen Buffy," "Don't Ya Never Pay for Software" and "Tinfoil Thoth" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 12:53:56 -0700 (PDT) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Songs about the list I would love to see fegartists take the challenge and write songs based on those titles (ala Robyn, right?) It'd be pretty cool to get an double album called Fuck You Tom Clark/Fuck you Natalie Jane with songs like Capuchin Sane, and Capitalism Blows. And who could forget the 70's AOR classic "Ken The Ken Kenster"? =jbj= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 12:54:15 -0700 From: Eb Subject: RE: 40 from the 70s > > Cat Stevens > >Due for (yet another) critical re-evaluation, I think Yeah, I think he deserves more respect too. I still have four Cat albums, and I don't even feel guilty about them (well, maybe Catch Bull at Four). I've been aware of Cat Stevens for most of my life, because my (sigh) father liked him. I can picture a couple of vintage Cat 45s he had, with tacky, generic A&M sleeves where the sleeve cutout makes the 45's center label look like a place setting at the dinner table. I was making my mother blubber by piano-ing "Morning Has Broken" on the day of his death. Eb, taking a downward maudlin turn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 15:58:30 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: RE: The ME decade, by ME Catherine wrote: > > am I the only one on this list whose > ears bleed at the sound of Bob Dylan? I can only stand him up to late 1960s, but yes, I think other people cover his songs better than he does. ... with the one notable exception of Odetta's version of Mr Tambourine Man, which just blows. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:15:56 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Jah Wobble hearts Jethro Tull; the Plectrum as Pickup Line Matt S: >>Nb, plectrum fans: I have Barry Melton's pick here, it's a white medium >>Fender... much too thick if you ask me... That's good; you won't be tempted to use it and lose it like I did with Paul Westerberg's awesome nylon pick I stole at that gig in Paris.* ______ Eb: >>I think it's because the '70s are a less "Hitchcocky" decade than the '60s, '80s, >>'90's or '00s, so it prompts people to reveal what ELSE they enjoy. It maybe early in the game, but my money's on the '00's being at least as unHitchcocky as the '70's were. (For one thing, I'm betting there won't be any Syd records in the next 7 years.) >>Is this the first vote cast for Bob Marley? This probably says >>something really awful (or, er, "dreadful") about how white-boy our >>tastes are. ;) True dat. But you have to admit that the legions of stoners in your dorm room who called Marley a "prophet" but only had "Legend" etc. etc. etc. have kind of made Marley someone I don't think of as much as I should vis-a-vis "music". I know it's kind of lame, but when I hear about Bob Marley Festivals, I pretty much think, bunch of stoned white guys, and maybe they trot out Aswad. ___ Ken: >>Aqualung would have been on every list of the top 40 of the 70's if they had >>been done in 1979. I dunno... would it be on Johnny Rotten's list? Joe Strummer's list? Joey Ramones? I think there was a lot of non-Tull-friendly chi in the air in 1979. But that's just me... Rex "admittedly I've never made it though Aqualung, so for all I know it gets really punk at the end" Broome * I actually stole two of Paul's picks, but then my girlfriend got to go backstage with the band, and so, unsure that I'd ever get her back, I gave the other one to this painfully cute girl from Minneapolis who'd been right beside me shouting the lyrics all night long, just in case, and she did give me her number and everything, but my girlfriend showed up just before I was about to take the metro home and that was that. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 16:07:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: RE: 40 from the 70s On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > The problem I have w/most classic reggae is the same problem I have w/a > lot of hip-hop: the rhythm and lyrics take precedence over other musical > elements (it seems like half the reggae songs in the world use the same > two chords), and both repetitive rhythm and paying attention to lyrics > are at the bottom of my musical interests. Well, if you're listening to recent dancehall from Jamaica, a lot of the songs actually have the same *music*, differing entirely only in the vocals. I find this aspect of dancehall beyond baffling (unlike the DJs' frequent homophobia, which is not mysterious but does keep me from buying too much of the stuff). The backing tracks actually have names of their own; often, if you pick up a dancehall compilation in the store and it has a one-word title, that's the name of the riddim that every. single. song. on the CD uses. Though not always. Roots reggae, I don't know much about. a ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:08:45 -0700 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: RE: The ME decade, by ME Catherine earnestly scribbled: >I've been told that it's insane that I like Robyn >Hitchcock but not Dylan, and, for that matter, I've had the same reaction when I told people I like Hitchcock, but not REM. >Lenny Kravitz even though I >can't stand Hendrix... Where'd this comparison come from? Because they're both black and play guitar? I just don't understand the appeal of LK. - -- Cheers! - -g- "The flowers of intolerance and hatred are blooming kind of early this year, someone's been watering them." --Robyn Hitchcock, "Devil's Radio" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 16:10:53 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: RE: The ME decade, by ME At 03:58 PM 6/24/2003 -0400, Stewart C. Russell wrote: >Catherine wrote: > > > > am I the only one on this list whose > > ears bleed at the sound of Bob Dylan? > >I can only stand him up to late 1960s, but yes, I >think other people cover his songs better than he >does. > >... with the one notable exception of Odetta's version of Mr Tambourine >Man, which just blows. In not so many degrees of separation from Bobby, Hendrix spins in his grave whenever anyone even *looks* at the Fibonaccis' version of Purple Haze. - -ferris. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 15:13:22 -0500 From: "Iosso, Ken" Subject: RE: 40 from the 70s Actually when my brothers and I went to bed at night somewhere in the very early 70s, my mother would ask what we wanted to hear played. The only choices I remember were "Teaser and the Firecat," "Simon & Garfunkel's Greatest Hits," and "Whipped Cream" by the Tijuana Brass. Very cool. This has informed my taste forevermore. It hardly matters about voice, lyrics, rhythm - it's about beauty. That same beauty you find in "Winchester" or "Madonna of the Wasps" or the entire "I often dream of trains." Ken Iosso -----Original Message----- From: Eb [mailto:ElBroome@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 2:54 PM To: fgz Subject: RE: 40 from the 70s > > Cat Stevens > >Due for (yet another) critical re-evaluation, I think Yeah, I think he deserves more respect too. I still have four Cat albums, and I don't even feel guilty about them (well, maybe Catch Bull at Four). I've been aware of Cat Stevens for most of my life, because my (sigh) father liked him. I can picture a couple of vintage Cat 45s he had, with tacky, generic A&M sleeves where the sleeve cutout makes the 45's center label look like a place setting at the dinner table. I was making my mother blubber by piano-ing "Morning Has Broken" on the day of his death. Eb, taking a downward maudlin turn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 16:14:29 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: RE: 40 from the 70s > > ..it seems like half the reggae songs in the world use the same > > two chords That's the same problem that I have with the blues. Ferris "I gots the two chord blues again" Thomas ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:16:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Groove Puppy Subject: Re: Original Feggy Songs Compilation I'm in! (H) ===== CHUCKHOLE All that great punk rock taste with only half the calories. http://clix.to/chuckhole http://www.mp3.com/chuckhole __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:32:58 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: What was I smokin'? Me say: >>But you have to admit that the legions of stoners in your dorm room ... erm, that should be "in your college dorm", in order to insure the universality of the experience. Everyone had stoners in their dorm; not everyone had any, much less "legions", in their actual room. - -Rex, whose dorm room population was 50% Stoner, and he was the other half ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 16:41:56 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: 40 from the 70s FSThomas wrote: > > That's the same problem that I have with the > blues. I thought that too, until I discovered Piedmont blues. Look for tracks by Terry & McGhee, or Cephas & Wiggins; lovely stuff. Stewart (I guess you've got to like harmonica, tho'.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:29:08 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: More titles for sale... Jason T. offers up: >>This List Sucks Now, So I'm Unsubscribing >>Oppressive Udders >>Fuck You, Natalie Jane Jacobs. (I'd just add this to the Tom Clark title) >>Top 40 Non-Disco, Non-Country-Arena-Rock Songs from the 1970s >>Reap!!! >>Movies Based on Comic Books >>Lawndart >>Capitalism Blows >>Can of Eb's (although I'm the only one that hears it as "E.B." in my head) >>Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! >>Eat the Placenta >>Vote Nader! Lest we forget: Butt-Rape of the Gods The Bouncing Boobs of Fighting Girls The Many Adventures of Jane the Timeline Chick and the Tinfoil Thoths Will You Shut Up About West Virginia? Beers and Whiskeys We Wish We Were Drinking This Is My Last Comment On This Thread No, YOU Made Her Unsubscribe Remembering the Taste of Something Awful He Got G*me Th*ory Where'd All the Girls Go? Soutared! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:54:28 -0700 From: Catherine Simpson Subject: RE: RE: The ME decade, by ME Ferris wrote: >>In not so many degrees of separation from Bobby, Hendrix spins in his grave >>whenever anyone even *looks* at the Fibonaccis' version of Purple Haze. My personal favorite version of "Purple Haze" is by the Kronos Quartet. If you're not familiar with them, consider them Chamber Music for the Cool at Heart. Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 15:32:09 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Submission Deadline (tentative) So the main question I'm getting is how long I'll be accepting submissions. I'm getting a sense that a few folks need a little time to polish up their projects, so I'm going to say I'll take submissions up through the end of August. If enough people think they'll need longer, I'll extend it. Also, on multiple submissions: that's completely fine and probably a good idea, so that the final project has a little more diversity. A "demo box set" might be too large for me to sift through, but if you've got a midtempo song in D, send it along with something else with an alternate feel. But by all means send it. Somebody's gotta have the *best* midtempo song in D. Some of you are going to contribute to each other's tracks and that's cool. My basic take is that if it's a different lead singer and different songwriter, it's a distinct artist. Plenty of wiggle room there. Plan is that everyone who submits gets at least one track. Seriously. It would take a *lot* for me to utterly disqualify *anything*, and yeah, that could be viewed as a challenge. Now... go! Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:36:50 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: 70s comps >>>Have you ever noticed that cheapo compilations of 'the best music of the >>>70s' always seem to concentrate on (a) disco, and (b) the nascent >>>country-stadium groups? Very little glam, and nary a mention of punk to be >>>found? It is a real rarity to find any "best of the 70s" albums with much >>>punk or new wave anywhere on them. Very odd. > >Could be a difference in the US, but we have a lot of what I call "Best of >Butt Rock" comps... arena rock. Journey and Night Ranger and Boston and >Kansas and whatnot. yeah that's what I meant by nascent country-stadium. But I could count the number of 70s compilations I've seen with, say, the Buzzcocks on them on the fingers of one hand. James - preparing to drive 200 miles through snow and ice on a trip I don't really want to go on. Bleagh. James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 17:02:10 -0700 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: prescription fun and games You won't believe this. Yesterday my husband got an official prescription for marijuana. A sympathetic doctor gave it to him for pain relief... a dream come true. Only problem is, he had to wait til he was old enough to get arthritis. It's now framed. Barbara Soutar Victoria, British Columbia ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:57:59 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: luxor first listen had us laughing, singing and dancing. Initial impression is that it's Robyn's best solo work since Moss Elixir. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 19:22:23 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Reap Just found out a friend died...Greg Dwinnell, who ran the local Eggbert Records label. (http://www.eggbert.com) He had cancer, and had been sick for nine or 10 months. I remember attending his Kristian Hoffman record-release party last year, and he was diagnosed pretty soon after that. Our musical passions only intersected in a certain small range, but unlike OTHER card-carrying power-pop nerds, he always accepted my opposing views with a smile and didn't inflate them into some grievous wound to his pride. A good guy. He was a lot of fun to talk with. Oh well...I was certainly due for some more bad news, right? After all, June had been relatively clear up until now. Weird footnote: The last time I saw Greg was maybe four (?) months ago. We met at the Tower Records near his place, because he wanted to give me a copy of Eggbert's latest release by the Halcyon Band. I got home, and discovered that the CD actually contained a glitchy pressing of Billy Bragg's Back to the Basics. Go figure. Never did hear that album. :) Eb PS Jason T. informs me that Miles Davis/Bitches Brew actually came out in 1969 instead of 1970. Odd, because I'm pretty sure that I *changed* my database info from 1969 to 1970 in the past, based on something I read. So, in any case, that makes room for ol' Singles Going Steady, doesn't it? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 22:37:41 -0400 From: "Roberta Cowan" Subject: Re: 40 from the 70s Eb ehhed: >Hey, I didn't realize we had *two* female proggies on the list. It is a badge I wear proudly I'm afraid. The other is Mary? >Caravan-For Girls Who Grow Plump In the Night >I'd be curious to hear your description of this. One of the most easily digestible of the Canterbury gang: less noodly jazz rock fusion stuff than say Hatfield & the North/National Health, more song oriented, a quirky pop sensibility with a bit of subtle folk influence even. This album has more than its fair share of my all time favorite Caravan moments on it (The Dog, The Dog, He's At It Again; Memory Lain, Hugh/Headloss) and some killer violin work from Geoff Richardson. >Family-Bandstand >This band comes up here, now and then...I still don't have the >foggiest idea what they sound like. Proto-prog, British blues? Aw geez, I'm terrible with labels. Despite Mike Godwin's description of Roger Chapman's "sheep-on-amphetamine vocals", I think his voice has way more subtlety than Geddy Lee or David Surkamp's. The music is not unlike some of Traffic's work (ca. John Barleycorn?) but the vocals are more distinctive. I've sometimes thought some of the solo Paul Weller material I've heard reminds me of Family. >Moody Blues-Every Good Boy Deserves Favour >Over Seventh Sojourn? No contest! Seventh Sojourn has a few good tracks on it but EGBDF is great from start to finish. I can also still listen to it occasionally, without cringing. >Mott the Hoople-The Hoople >Over Mott? I thought about it for a few minutes but when I read the track list, The Hoople's line up made me smile more. Plus, that's the one I listened to most back in the day. >Neu-Neu '75 >Over the first two Neu discs? Really it's because that's the one I had when I was discovering that music--Michael Rother, Manuel Gottsching, SFF. I didn't hear the earlier ones until later. I would defend Marc's choice of Smash Hits also due to the fact that I too listened to it incessantly in the 70's so I identify it with that era. It also had a few tracks that were exclusive to it at the time. A friend gave me a copy of the CD last year and I rediscovered it--what a great collection! However, AMG lists the release date as 1969. Oh well, I tried. Dat's all-- Roberta ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 22:28:20 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Pseudo-Seligman I've been meaning to ask this for a while--Who played bass at the final Soft Boys show in Paris? From what I've heard, it wasn't Matthew. Any ideas? Marc Children need encouragement. So if a kid gets an answer right, tell him it was a lucky guess. That way, he develops a good, lucky feeling. Jack Handey ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:07:50 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: re: Re: Top 40 >>the Dreamies--Auralgraphic Entertainment >I don't know a thing about this one. It might have promoted more >dialogue if folks had "testified" a little about their really obscure >choices. (I don't think any of my own choices were obscure enough to >warrant it, except possibly the Roy Wood record.) Delaware-based, early '70's psychedelic. It was too late for the real peak of psychedelia, but too good to pass up. It's a bit easier to find since it had 2 vinyl re-issues and a CD release in the late '90's. >>X--Wild Gift (I can't believe I didn't see any X on the lists so far) >Maybe because they didn't actually release any albums during the '70s. ;) Damn, I knew that I should have pulled this to check it. Adult Books from that album was released as a single in 1978, but Wild Gift was '81. Makes sense now--I ran into Ray Manzerek at a record show in New York in early '81, and when I asked him what he was up to, he mentioned producing an LA punk band that he was really enthused about. At the same show, I passed on a Ramones signing, only to get really into them a couple of years later. Man, to know then what I know now. I did finally meet the Ramones on the Animal Boy tour, before Dee Dee split from the band. I have a really nice copy of the LP signed by Joey, Dee Dee, and Johnny (missed Ritchie). >>btw--I know Smash Hits is a compilation, but I played the shit >>out of that one. >It also contains music recorded in the '60s. Off-limits! Don't totally agree here, but since it was music that was also released in the '60's, okay. I'd count the Beatles Anthology(s) as '90's albums, but didn't bother to put the Red or Blue compilations on here, because it was a rehash of previously released stuff. These are my 2 replacements-- New York Dolls--New York Dolls Nuggets (compilation)--most of these songs were obscure enough that they were virtually unobtainable before the compilation. Eb, you can pretend I selected Joe Jackson--Look Sharp, if that's easier to deal with 8^) Later, Marc Take away the right to say 'fuck' and you take away the right to say 'fuck the government'. Lenny Bruce ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:37:38 -0700 From: Eb Subject: re: Re: Top 40 >Marc: >I ran into Ray Manzerek at a record show in New York >I have a really nice copy of >the LP signed by Joey, Dee Dee, and Johnny Ah, Marc's "autograph" motif arises again. Heh. Eb PS Who will offer me $95.48 for my autographed Loud Family CD? ;) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 12:59:56 +0100 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: 24/6 birthdays and grey-haired men... So Stewart, you share birthdays with my friend Psychedelic Terry, who's now 54... He had a birthday celebration of a number of performances from various performers including 66.6 recurring% of my band and, unexpectedly, Terry's old friend The Jazz Butcher. He did a storming version of Take The Skinheads Bowling with accompaniment from his skinhead friend... and yep, the jazz butcher is another grey-haired man, so another one I can cross off my list. Thanks for the recommendations, I'm definitely going to check out some music created by under-40s... CHeers Matt >From: "Stewart C. Russell" >Jill wrote: > > > > Happy birthday, Stewart! > >Thanks, Jill -- and the same to you! > > > Is the sun shining for you in Toronto today? > >Yes; a lot. It's brutally hot. And my colleagues just made me really nice rum-laced fruit trifles. Yum. > >A card for the list -- people seem to like this pinhole picture I took: > > Stewart >(now 34 -- which might explain why he doesn't have many albums from the 1970s) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for cheaper internet access? Find loads of great offers here! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 08:36:47 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Reap On Tue, Jun 24, 2003, Eb wrote: > Just found out a friend died...Greg Dwinnell, who ran the local > Eggbert Records label. (http://www.eggbert.com) He had cancer, and > had been sick for nine or 10 months. I remember attending his > Kristian Hoffman record-release party last year, and he was diagnosed > pretty soon after that. That's too bad. The Bent Backed Tulips album was on Eggbert. So was John Easdale's solo album. Great stuff. - -Ken ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #234 ********************************